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Ruze
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2008.07.24 03:11:00 -
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Ambulation Synopsis: The parts I like ;?j ((All questions listed are rhetorical, as I don't expect an answer this early in the game))
Player Housing: Also called 'Captains Quarters', these are mentioned several times in the various dev responses and videos. In the earlier blogs, they are referred to being related to the size of ship the player owns, with bigger ships making nicer quarters. However, the latest reports, these quarters are similar to modules, and thus can be fit on a ship and transfered between. They apparently hold all your clothes and personal items (like what?), and if you have then on your active ship and the ship gets blown up, they are lost with the vessel. Sounds cool as hell. Are they decorate-able? What kind of personal gear can we keep and display here? It's said we can have multiple of these quarters; will there be restrictions on which quarters can fit in which ships?
Corporate Venues: So far, I've seen mention of two rooms, a public room and a private room. Players will apparently be able to adjust who can enter a room (i.e. a corp office may be set to allow alliance members to enter, not just the corp members). And, the offices are supposedly restricted to regular corp office setup we have now; for example, if your corp has an office in a station, they will automatically have one of these lounge areas. With the initial release of the expansion, every corp office is supposedly 'basic', but later we may be able to buy upgrades to our offices. I wonder how much decoration can be done? Also, the meeting room apparently will have a tactical map, but are there other functions a corporate office could hold? Can certain 'upgrade' offices have individual spaces for the CEO of the company? Hell, what else would a corporate office NEED to be useful to a corporation?
Player Venues: They've mentioned repeatedly the ability to run your own business. I've seen talk of bars, to clothing stores, to plastic surgeons. The latest entry said that these business will require upkeep and rent, and when they are no longer being paid for, they will no longer exist (no empty rooms all over the place). Will there be a limit per station? What else could make these venues interesting? Besides the preteen response of 'strip clubs', these are apparently social centers. But how can they be used for other things, such as turning a profit? Can my bar have a dance hall? And what about a special 'VIP' lounge? And will I be able to hire an agent, possibly even a 'pirate' agent, to work in my back room?
Mini Games: There is specific mention in several posts of gambling and gaming tables, both in one-on-one events AND in group things. I'd also like to see fighting rinks (bare knuckle, of course). Probably start off with NPC fights, and maybe in later updates go into player-vs-player knockout fights. ****ed at your CEO? Take it to the rink. Last man standing wins. Hey, no hassle about the cloning argument now, is there? Then there are slaver hound matches (are we advocating dog fights? Cause if not, how can we advocate slavery?), watching EvE TV (In game? GASP), maybe even watching pod races or betting on 0.0 events. Ahh, man. Gaming 'parlors' or halls would be an awesome business.
Transportation: In earlier posts it mentions mobile walkways and escalators, but in later vids and posts the devs say that each room will only be a certain size, and that 'elevators' will be positioned at regular intervals to allow quick transportation to your ship. Both sound cool to me. But I do wonder how access to player corps and venues will be handled. How quickly will it be to move between important locations.
Also, serious question: Will there be an Emperor's throne? Will there be CCP sponsored RP events with preachers and presidential walkthroughs? So much potential.
((Tomorrow, or maybe the day after, I'm going to make another post and go deeper into the venue ideas))
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soldieroffortune 258
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Posted - 2008.07.24 03:56:00 -
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already been said once, and i will say again
CCP, STICKY THIS THREAD, VERY WELL DONE LUI KAI
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Lui Kai
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.24 05:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze I'd also like to see fighting rinks
While they've said it's possible in the future, I'd say it's a distant future based on this post:
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia A lot of the suggested scenarioªs rely heavily on character to character interaction, bashing someoneªs head in with a pool stick (I donªt play pool so its a stick) comes down to 2 highly realistic and graphics heavy characters interacting with eachother that also needs to be realistic and look good.
Programming that and doing the art(I mean just finding the motioncapture actors who wants to be bashed with sticks will be a challenge. We want it realistic, we want to see blood if we go for all out violence. Well, I would.) for it could easily take 6 months.
And then weªd also have a way of explaining people not dying from it and design a combat system for in station. Add another year because we want to do more moves and not always repeat the same one. We also want to keep it realistic and not early streetfighter like.
For the first realise this would be simply too much, Ambulation is an addition to EVE and not a totally new game with itªs own combat system. We wonªt exclude it from the future but we are already building up a completly new environment, with itªs own pathfinding, own controls, and new gamelogic, and we are laying down the foundations for more.
So it sounds like they do want to add some type of combat mechanic, but that it's at least 3 expansions down the road.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.07.24 05:41:00 -
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1) Sticky this thread! 2) Eris, Eris..... Eeeeeerrrriiiiissssss!!!!! Eris!!!!!!!!!! - what about my corpse pickling jar? Is it coming, will it come? We need a PUBLIC way/or PRIVATE whatever, we need a WAY to display corpses.
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Lui Kai
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.24 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jinx Barker Edited by: Jinx Barker on 24/07/2008 06:24:28 1) Sticky this thread! 2) Eris, Eris..... Eeeeeerrrriiiiissssss!!!!! Eris!!!!!!!!!! - what about my corpse pickling jar? Is it coming, will it come? We need a PUBLIC way/or PRIVATE whatever, we need a WAY to display corpses.
EDIT: Where is the "Dev Bait?"
Turn on images, it's in the post that mentions hoping for Eris to swing by this thread.
Hint: I made your post more Eris-friendly, too. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
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Lui Kai
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.24 11:39:00 -
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More links added. As always, if anyone finds anything I've missed so far - post away. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
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Lui Kai
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.24 15:29:00 -
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Hey, yay - we got glue. Cheers, whichever mod did that :)
I've finished combing through the archives, raiding google, and generally scouring for info, and I think I can reasonably say that I've got everything of real relevance posted into the first thread.
That said, feel free to prove me wrong :) ---------------- Ambulation Answers
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Mr Show
Caldari Enemies of Mercy
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Posted - 2008.07.24 15:33:00 -
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Hey hey, great post. I'm sure this info is in there somewhere but didn't see a specific link for it: When? Any official date, official estimate? I remember seeing somewhere something about late 2008?
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AltBier
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated
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Posted - 2008.07.24 15:35:00 -
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Lui Kai, great thread, thanks for the hard work!
Originally by: Ruze Just so everyone knows, I will be opening up a bar when this comes out. Probably in Amarr, or Akhragan. Preferably Amarr. It'll cater to all audiences, especially those who have to listen to me in racial chat all the time. Course, in my bar, if you dis the emperess or emperor, your butt is out.
We SO need bar fights! 
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Lui Kai
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.24 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Show Hey hey, great post. I'm sure this info is in there somewhere but didn't see a specific link for it: When? Any official date, official estimate? I remember seeing somewhere something about late 2008?
There's a few different articles that say 2008. Since December is the last expansion that's going to happen for 2008, it'll be then if it does happen. However, only the early interviews give that date - the later ones don't mention a date at all, so it's possible it got pushed back.
That said, they've promised a playable demo at fanfest, so there's still hope. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
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Mr Show
Caldari Enemies of Mercy
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Posted - 2008.07.24 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Lui Kai
Originally by: Mr Show Hey hey, great post. I'm sure this info is in there somewhere but didn't see a specific link for it: When? Any official date, official estimate? I remember seeing somewhere something about late 2008?
There's a few different articles that say 2008. Since December is the last expansion that's going to happen for 2008, it'll be then if it does happen. However, only the early interviews give that date - the later ones don't mention a date at all, so it's possible it got pushed back.
That said, they've promised a playable demo at fanfest, so there's still hope.
Ok thanks, wasn't sure. After being burned very recent by a game released to early, I have NO problems with it being pushed back as far as Devs deem necessary.
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CCP Eris Discordia

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Posted - 2008.07.24 16:08:00 -
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blub blub blub
(thats the sound fish make according to us dutch people)
Nice thread and great initiative 
Pink Dread has been hijacked
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CCP Eris Discordia

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Posted - 2008.07.24 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Lui Kai
Thus, I leave out a bit of Eris Bait¬ in the hopes of getting an answer to the main question I've seen left unanswered so far: Will trade commodities have a use in Ambulation? IE: Exotic Dancers, Cigarettes, et cetera.
I didn¦t have images activated so I missed the bait, trade commodities will be in Ambulation but maybe not in the way you expect, they might change from the type trade commodities to something else.
We will have Exotic Dancers which is what you really want to know right? 
Pink Dread has been hijacked
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.24 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia We will have Exotic Dancers which is what you really want to know right? 
Ambulation has just become 500% more popular.  ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |

Lui Kai
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.24 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
We will have Exotic Dancers which is what you really want to know right? 
You are now my hero  ---------------- Ambulation Answers
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Crae Matreki
Sten Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.24 16:28:00 -
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This thread is bloomin brilliant! yay for stickiness! 
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Cors
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.07.24 16:29:00 -
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I just got a mental picture, of a Bar in Jita 4-4. People packed like sardines. And every one of them doing their best Duke Nukem Voice's "Shake it baby."
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Lui Kai
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.24 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
I didn¦t have images activated so I missed the bait, trade commodities will be in Ambulation but maybe not in the way you expect, they might change from the type trade commodities to something else.
We will have Exotic Dancers which is what you really want to know right? 
Okay, now for the next most frequently asked question: When will it be released?
Fresh Eris Bait¬ follows:
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CCP Eris Discordia

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Posted - 2008.07.24 17:08:00 -
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My answer
Pink Dread has been hijacked
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Lui Kai
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.24 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia My answer
lol. Fair enough, gotta save something for fan fest.
Next most frequently asked question: Will attributes affect anything in ambulation? IE: Will a high cha change a character's appearance? Or will there be ambulation-related skills that benefit from said cha? ---------------- Ambulation Answers
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Chomin H'ak
The Trivenerate
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Posted - 2008.07.24 18:25:00 -
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Seriously, Lui Kai, I have GOT to give you props...
If you were playing D&D, I'd call you an Epic conjurer. I don't know what material components you used, but you summon legendary beings like Elminster on goofballs!
Just epic...
Oh yeah, and very nicely done thread. Deserved the sticky, thanks.
Originally by: Frenden Dax My heart hopes that people aren't that stupid, but my experiences thus far suggest otherwise.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.07.24 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia My answer
not soonÖ?

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Zinras
Caldari Order of draugr
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Posted - 2008.07.24 19:20:00 -
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Edited by: Zinras on 24/07/2008 19:21:18
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia We will have Exotic Dancers which is what you really want to know right? 
Excellent. I knew there was a reason for me to save those exotic dancers 

Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton not soonÖ?
It's always SoonÖ 
Originally by: CCP Greyscale *moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal*
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire That si a fact comming out from my bran.
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ZephyrLexx
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.07.24 19:50:00 -
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so ambulation is still a long way off? it says in this email I just recieved that a hands on ambulation walking around stations will be available at fanfest .. which is in 100-odd days from now? so I guess that means we won't see it for at least 100+ days.. man :/ what is taking so long?
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.07.24 20:41:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 24/07/2008 20:41:37 ôThere will be exotic dancersö ôThere will be bars; will not be dancingö So what are the exotic dancers going to do if they are not dancing? 
____ Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation (www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
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Zinras
Caldari Order of draugr
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Posted - 2008.07.24 21:14:00 -
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Edited by: Zinras on 24/07/2008 21:13:51
Originally by: Pottsey Edited by: Pottsey on 24/07/2008 20:41:37 ôThere will be exotic dancersö ôThere will be bars; will not be dancingö So what are the exotic dancers going to do if they are not dancing? 
Exotic barmaids? 
Originally by: CCP Greyscale *moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal*
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire That si a fact comming out from my bran.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente Federation Zone Operations Command
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Posted - 2008.07.24 22:20:00 -
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I applaud Lui Kai for putting it all together 
...wait...exotic dancers !  -------------------------------------------------- If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles - Sun Tzu |

Ruze
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2008.07.24 22:46:00 -
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Maybe what they mean is that the player's character won't be able to get up and dance, but you'll still find some NPC's shaking their stuff, if that's the kind of joint your at.
I wonder if you'll be able to hire static NPC's like dancers and bartenders (because a podpilot can't sit behind the bar 24/7, you know))? And will stations have restrictions on what type of businesses can be put up there? I'm imagining some Gallente punk setting up a strip club right in the middle of the Amarr systems Emperor Family Academy. I mean, would the station have rules? I'm sure Matari don't want some slave-oriented business in their stations or that kind of thing.
So far I've seen mention of selling alcohol, tobacco, clothing, operating video games and card games, even being able to make a shop where you change the features of a character for a fee.
I'd love to see staged fights that players could bet on. I'd like to see the mind game from the chronicles. Possibly would like some kind of betting arena for pod races (actual pods, not some star wars junk). You could even have slaver hound fights. I mean, c'mon, you'll let an Amarrian have slaves, why not let us be just that much more evil in the eyes of everyone and fight dogs, too, eh?
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Victor Valka
Caldari Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.07.24 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia We will have Exotic Dancers which is what you really want to know right? 
A million light-years from where humanity begun, and we'll walk into a bar filled with men drooling over half-naked women shaking their asses on the stage. I can't decide if that's funny or sad. 
(10 brownie points if you catch the reference.)
Originally by: Roxanna Kell You are insane.
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Faraelle Brightman
Gallente Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2008.07.24 23:13:00 -
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Trying to jump onto the question train: Will there be bloodline-specific shiny things in addition to the race-specific ones?
*hopes Eris is a cat person*

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