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Elirel
Alpha.Tech
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Posted - 2008.07.29 06:44:00 -
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Now that Caldari whiners achieved nanonerf i propose a new campaign to EvE community. In a slow Blob vs Blob world of tomorrow Drake is CLEARLY and RIDICULOUSLY OVERPOWERED!!!1!!
I am at work right now so can not use EFT to prove my points. But i am sure that passively tanked faction fitted Drake in a gang with Leviathan (who got maxed out leadership skills with shield links) CAN TANK LIKE NO TOMORROW and can dish out some decent PDS.
Faction fitted is too expensive? So what? Isk should never be an excuse to make ships OVARPOWERRED!!!!!!!!
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Escobar Noreaga
Amarr F.R.E.E. Explorer
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Posted - 2008.07.29 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: Elirel EFT
Yoda: That, is why you fail...
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Sidewayzracer
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.29 06:49:00 -
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i see no real reason to make cap recharge and sheild recharge mods have a stacking penalty like every other module.
itll remove the cookie cutter drake setups ppl make and those r far worse then any nano setup i have seen
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Elirel
Alpha.Tech
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Posted - 2008.07.29 06:49:00 -
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Originally by: Escobar Noreaga
Originally by: Elirel EFT
Yoda: That, is why you fail...
Now that my Ishtar can no longer go OVER 9000 m/s i demand DRAKE to BE NNERERRFED!
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Elirel
Alpha.Tech
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Posted - 2008.07.29 06:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sidewayzracer i see no real reason to make cap recharge and sheild recharge mods have a stacking penalty like every other module.
itll remove the cookie cutter drake setups ppl make and those r far worse then any nano setup i have seen
QFT!! its too easy to tank with DRAKEZ!
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Elirel
Alpha.Tech
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Posted - 2008.07.29 07:02:00 -
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4 replies and 91 views! Still no CCP answer!!!!111
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Saietor Blackgreen
The First Foundation Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2008.07.29 07:06:00 -
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Well, that was kinda obvious from the very beginning. If speed is to be nerfed down to the point where ships cannot completely outrun the missiles and drones of the same class, Drake, as heavy missile platform, will get a very nice boost.
OFC all the turrets will get it too, but previously heavies were just plain useless against fast HACs, now they do work. Kinda binary boost :)
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Volarius
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.29 07:07:00 -
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I am especially worried about this PDS drakes dish out.
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Zurrar
Gallente Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2008.07.29 07:19:00 -
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how is drake over powered?
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Elirel
Alpha.Tech
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Posted - 2008.07.29 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: Zurrar how is drake over powered?
It out tanks all other BCs doing OVER 300 PDS, uses no cap and missiles always hit!!!!!!!
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Zurrar
Gallente Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2008.07.29 07:28:00 -
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Originally by: Elirel
Originally by: Zurrar how is drake over powered?
It out tanks all other BCs doing OVER 300 PDS, uses no cap and missiles always hit!!!!!!!
o_0 stop using eft... myrm does very well. and ive seen more canes in fleet than drakes.
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Elirel
Alpha.Tech
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Posted - 2008.07.29 07:30:00 -
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Edited by: Elirel on 29/07/2008 07:29:59
Originally by: Zurrar
Originally by: Elirel
Originally by: Zurrar how is drake over powered?
It out tanks all other BCs doing OVER 300 PDS, uses no cap and missiles always hit!!!!!!!
o_0 stop using eft... myrm does very well. and ive seen more canes in fleet than drakes.
You will see more drakes than myrms and canes combined AFTER the nanonerf.
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Sidewayzracer
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.29 07:40:00 -
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Originally by: Zurrar
Originally by: Elirel
Originally by: Zurrar how is drake over powered?
It out tanks all other BCs doing OVER 300 PDS, uses no cap and missiles always hit!!!!!!!
o_0 stop using eft... myrm does very well. and ive seen more canes in fleet than drakes.
who are you fighting? generally any regular blob if its a BC's in the gang it is 9/10 a drake.
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Zurrar
Gallente Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2008.07.29 07:42:00 -
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Edited by: Zurrar on 29/07/2008 07:43:04
Originally by: Sidewayzracer
Originally by: Zurrar
Originally by: Elirel
Originally by: Zurrar how is drake over powered?
It out tanks all other BCs doing OVER 300 PDS, uses no cap and missiles always hit!!!!!!!
o_0 stop using eft... myrm does very well. and ive seen more canes in fleet than drakes.
who are you fighting? generally any regular blob if its a BC's in the gang it is 9/10 a drake.
um, anywhere outside empire? i fly drakes cause i have shield tanking skills (and cyclone im not skilled in guns)
ok, doing some eft warrioring myself-
with my skills (crap in armor, can hardly use t2 armor reps and t1 hardners) the myrm with bc 2 tanks- 368 dps, not bad at all. the dmg it pumps out is-349 dps, soooo if drake does 300, myrm outdoes drake.
ok, now the harb- woops, what is this, 345 dps tanked, and 319dps dished out (pulses t1) i cant even use lazers, so there are 0 bonus there.
ok- now the hurricane- oh, surprise here- 359 tanked, dps at 303dps dished out
drake now (my skills are all in shield tanking)- 400dps tanked- 235 dps dished out
so all in all, they are pretty even, the only dmg mods i added were on the drake 3x bcull's
so your theory of drake is over powered is ******ed and false...
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ApaKaka
Lone Starr Corporation
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Posted - 2008.07.29 07:45:00 -
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Did you completely miss the other drake thread where we established that both hurricane and myrmidon can passivetank around 750 dps with only T2 fit? And do significantly more DPS than a shitty drake at the same time.
Naturally, nobody would fit like that, because it's useless, but there you go.
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Roy Batty68
Caldari Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2008.07.29 07:45:00 -
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Don't worry, they're already contemplating a nerf to missiles.
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Zurrar
Gallente Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2008.07.29 07:46:00 -
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Originally by: ApaKaka Did you completely miss the other drake thread where we established that both hurricane and myrmidon can passivetank around 750 dps with only T2 fit? And do significantly more DPS than a shitty drake at the same time.
Naturally, nobody would fit like that, because it's useless, but there you go.
this is the active one, ive not seen the other. but all the bc's are well balanced.
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Havohej
The Defias Brotherhood
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Posted - 2008.07.29 07:47:00 -
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You've just 'reasoned with' a troll.
Originally by: CCP Explorer You can still steal their stuff.
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Hyperforce99
Gallente Infinite Covenant Lords of the Damned
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Posted - 2008.07.29 07:53:00 -
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Edited by: Hyperforce99 on 29/07/2008 07:53:52
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O NOES, Now I can't flee from those drakes anymore I actually have to fight them, GASP NOOOOO, I lost my Nano ship on SISI to a drake with a passive shield tank, NOOOOOOOO I can't NOS or NEUT it either, what is this world comming to.
BUT WAIT!, I'm the GREAT ELIREL, I CAN DEMAND JUSTICE. I DEMAND A NERF. I ENVISION A WORLD WHERE NO MAN CAN STAND UP TO MY MIGHT, ALL FEAR MY POWERS. The drake isn't part of this world and thus it MUST be NERFED by my decree!!! I DEMAND A NERF.
I don't care if passive shieldtanks are a viable tactic, I don't care if Nano's where 10 times more unbalanced than any passive shieldtank ever was. No now I actually have to FIGHT these ships MANO a MANO they are to strong for me! Now I can't no longer run circles around them and kill them with my missiles and drones while they can't hit me at all its all become so unfair...
I ELIREL DEMAND A NERF WORTHY OF ... well... ME!
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With all seriousness... CCP won't do it, get over the damn nano nerf and find another way to fight drakes. Nano's made to many ships have an I WIN BUTTON. At least the drake can be hit and BEATEN if pushed hard enough. Nano ships where hard to even get one hit on while they ripped you a new one. speed tank ok, but not on a Battlecruiser or a (name other large Nano ship here).
Get over it, and stop acting like a spoiled little brat cause seriously... You are not the king... or queen of EVE.
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.07.29 07:55:00 -
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I frankly cannot believe the amount of people not spotting a very obvious troll. I mean, seriously, what do people need to do? Have "here be trolls" in thread title?
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Zurrar
Gallente Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2008.07.29 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko I frankly cannot believe the amount of people not spotting a very obvious troll. I mean, seriously, what do people need to do? Have "here be trolls" in thread title?
its not the trolls that im pointing stuff out to, its the ppl who read this and go 'omg, yea hes right', and i had all those fits already in eft, so just open it and bam. altho eft is no substitute for real combat.
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Ioci
Gallente Ioci Exploration
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Posted - 2008.07.29 07:58:00 -
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Player A: Intell reports a hostile fleet of Drakes 3 jumps away...
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Zurrar
Gallente Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2008.07.29 08:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ioci Player A: Intell reports a hostile fleet of Drakes 3 jumps away...
Player B: So?
Player C: HIDE THE VAGAS!
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2008.07.29 08:01:00 -
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I have to agree though, the rake is overpowered compared to other gardening tools. The leafblower is just a hassle, picking up the leaves one by one is a pain in the back, but the rake just comes in and rakes 'em all up no hassle no pain
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Zinka Z
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Posted - 2008.07.29 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Elirel Now that Caldari whiners achieved nanonerf i propose a new campaign to EvE community. In a slow Blob vs Blob world of tomorrow Drake is CLEARLY and RIDICULOUSLY OVERPOWERED!!!1!!
I am at work right now so can not use EFT to prove my points. But i am sure that passively tanked faction fitted Drake in a gang with Leviathan (who got maxed out leadership skills with shield links) CAN TANK LIKE NO TOMORROW and can dish out some decent PDS.
Faction fitted is too expensive? So what? Isk should never be an excuse to make ships OVARPOWERRED!!!!!!!!
This guy knows what he is talking about. WE all know that drakes are way too overpowered and have been for a while. They have become the standard gang ship because they are soo overpowered. just look at killboards. whats the ship that people fly the most ?
NERF THE DRAKE NOW!!!!!
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Zurrar
Gallente Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2008.07.29 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones I have to agree though, the rake is overpowered compared to other gardening tools. The leafblower is just a hassle, picking up the leaves one by one is a pain in the back, but the rake just comes in and rakes 'em all up no hassle no pain
its all about the weed eater man, it does the job of the lawn mower, the edger, and the kill your neighbor for peeing on your roses tool.
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Elirel
Alpha.Tech
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Posted - 2008.07.29 08:12:00 -
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Edited by: Elirel on 29/07/2008 08:12:42
Originally by: Hyperforce99
I don't care if passive shieldtanks are a viable tactic, I don't care if Nano's where 10 times more unbalanced than any passive shieldtank ever was.
Dear Sir, i demand a precise math wher you prove that Nanos are exactly 10 times more unbalanced than passive shieldtank.
Based on which assumptions overpowered passive shieldtanks are fine while hit and run nano tactic is not fine.
Anyway.. this thread is about overpowered DRAKES not about perfectly balanced nanos.
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Shadowsword
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.29 08:21:00 -
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You're overdoing it. EFT was enough, but mentionning faction mods and a leviathan make the troll too obvious. ------------------------------------------
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.07.29 08:22:00 -
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Passive tanking need rebalancing from the ground up for all ships. Shield rechargers need a boost as well. I would like to see shield extenders lower shield recharge by x% amount. ____ Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation (www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
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Chr0nosX
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.07.29 08:50:00 -
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Definitely a nerf needed here. No cap weapons? No cap tank? Just ridiculously overpowered.
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