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7shining7one7
Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage
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Posted - 2008.07.30 20:17:00 -
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 30/07/2008 20:22:12
a young english lad who thinks he's intelligent when he is really a brainwashed tv-guide moron with no sense of reality, is schooled in how things really are, and in a bit of history, by george gallloway when he calls in explaining how he thinks it is pertinent to bomb iran in a preemptive strike
being the armchair general the moron caller is, i thought i'd share this with you since i hardly think he is the only one who is that daft these days, and therefore others are in need of the same reeducation
welcome back to reality, where everyone has the big guns but noone no matter how religious or fanatic wants to use them because if they do, everyone will die, including themselves.. but will retaliate if invaded or attacked, because they are people.. just like you.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.07.30 20:50:00 -
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P.S. Is it possible that shining has posted a thread that isn't directly related to a conspiracy theory? If so, this is a turning point in OOPE's history. 
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.07.30 21:09:00 -
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"And three hundred spartans saw them off".
Win indeed.
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Kirjava
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.07.30 21:12:00 -
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Confirming token Haruhiist presence in a historic thread.
Interesting vid though, middle of watching....
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Zephyr Rengate
dearg doom
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Posted - 2008.07.30 21:17:00 -
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HeHe. I need to send that vid to some of my American friends.
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Wild Rho
Amarr
Silent Core
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Posted - 2008.07.30 21:22:00 -
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That was pretty good :)
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.30 21:45:00 -
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Watching now...and just in case anyone was wondering, there's no way that the US is going to invade Iran in the near future. It would be an incredibly terrible idea.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.07.30 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Watching now...and just in case anyone was wondering, there's no way that the US is going to invade Iran in the near future. It would be an incredibly terrible idea.
But they have lots of oil. Frankly, I'm surprised they haven't been invaded already.
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.30 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Tarminic
Watching now...and just in case anyone was wondering, there's no way that the US is going to invade Iran in the near future. It would be an incredibly terrible idea.
But they have lots of oil. Frankly, I'm surprised they haven't been invaded already.
Let me put it this way. If the US tried to invade Iran, we would fail. The US military is stretched too thin in to either launch a successful invasion of Iran or defend from the immediate counterattack that Iran would almost undoubtedly launch through Iraq (also destroying any hope of ever achieving some kind of sanity there). I mean, go Amurika and all, but it's a military reality.
EDIT: Wow, that guy got his ass kicked. I be his ass hurt after that.
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Kirjava
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:03:00 -
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I will point out that the Americans could always let Israel have its way with Iran then get the EU to help with the cleanup operations along with conscripted Americans, or as I believe you call it, drafted.
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Asestorian
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:04:00 -
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I don't really like Mr. Galloway, but that was a right arse kicking he gave that guy, and he did it well. Respect for that, to be honest. Also, 300 Spartans.
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Kirjava
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Asestorian
I don't really like Mr. Galloway, but that was a right arse kicking he gave that guy, and he did it well. Respect for that, to be honest. Also, 300 Spartans.
Wasn't Galloway the one that was on Big Brother?
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: Asestorian
I don't really like Mr. Galloway, but that was a right arse kicking he gave that guy, and he did it well. Respect for that, to be honest. Also, 300 Spartans.
Wasn't Galloway the one that was on Big Brother?
Yes. He pretended to be a cat if I remember correctly.
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:22:00 -
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Edited by: goodby4u on 30/07/2008 22:26:53
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Tarminic
Watching now...and just in case anyone was wondering, there's no way that the US is going to invade Iran in the near future. It would be an incredibly terrible idea.
But they have lots of oil. Frankly, I'm surprised they haven't been invaded already.
Let me put it this way. If the US tried to invade Iran, we would fail. The US military is stretched too thin in to either launch a successful invasion of Iran or defend from the immediate counterattack that Iran would almost undoubtedly launch through Iraq (also destroying any hope of ever achieving some kind of sanity there). I mean, go Amurika and all, but it's a military reality.
EDIT: Wow, that guy got his ass kicked. I be his ass hurt after that.
Not entirely true, we would control the sky and the ocean... Not to mention we would sever the head of their government swiftly(if not make most of their leaders go into hiding).
We are stretched, this is indeed correct, however if we were to enter iran we would destroy them.
Now we would lose troops but the bulk of them would be whilst we occupied the country, not during the invasion.
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: goodby4u
Not entirely true, we would control the sky and the ocean... Not to mention we would sever the head of their government swiftly(if not make most of their leaders go into hiding).
We are stretched, this is indeed correct, however if we were to enter iran we would destroy them.
Now if we were to lose troops it will be whilst we occupied their country, not during the invasion.
What troops could we use? We already have half of the national guard in Iraq, and much of the military forces there have had their tours extended.
We can blockade and airstrike Iran all we want, that much is true, but when it comes down to it we don't have anywhere near the manpower we'd need to launch a successful invasion and control major population centers afterward. Committing any forces to a ground invasion of Iran would mean that they'd need to come from either Iraq or Iran, which leads to either becoming even less stable due to the absence of peacekeeping troops (nevermind an Iranian counterattack). Remember that the Iranian army isn't like Iraq, we wouldn't just plow through them.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:33:00 -
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Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 30/07/2008 22:33:28
By the way, been talking with a now former marine who has spent quite a bit of time over there (3 tours), Iran can actually put up a bit of a fight.
The probability of us winning is still very high but the cost in deaths and vehicle losses would make it a hollow victory.
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Kirala Hcsirf
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: goodby4u
What troops could we use? We already have half of the national guard in Iraq, and much of the military forces there have had their tours extended.
We can blockade and airstrike Iran all we want, that much is true, but when it comes down to it we don't have anywhere near the manpower we'd need to launch a successful invasion and control major population centers afterward. Committing any forces to a ground invasion of Iran would mean that they'd need to come from either Iraq or Iran, which leads to either becoming even less stable due to the absence of peacekeeping troops (nevermind an Iranian counterattack). Remember that the Iranian army isn't like Iraq, we wouldn't just plow through them.
This is completely accurate. And there are a LOT of other reasons as well. To wit, there is absolutely no way we could concievably invade Iran with even a slight possibility of anything resembling success. Anybody who says otherwise is just plain ignorant of these matters.
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nahtoh
Caldari
StrikerCorp
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Posted - 2008.07.30 23:09:00 -
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the guy hes talking to is a numbnuts...but I do think Mr Galloway is total ****...
Lets see making the same mistake that the caller made at the beginning, strangley thats ok...sorry but i do find that replusive little shit really annoying. His defination of stratigic attack was a bit strange as well Galloways that is.
But yeah the caller was no superstar and I do disagree with him.
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Caldari
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.07.30 23:22:00 -
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My god that guy got pwned. His arguments kinda remind me of some of the posts from people in here
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Neth'Rae
Gallente
Decorum Inc
Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.30 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Asestorian
Also, 300 Spartans.
I lol'ed hard when he said that :D
Nice reference xD
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.07.31 00:28:00 -
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Edited by: goodby4u on 31/07/2008 00:30:48
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: goodby4u
Not entirely true, we would control the sky and the ocean... Not to mention we would sever the head of their government swiftly(if not make most of their leaders go into hiding).
We are stretched, this is indeed correct, however if we were to enter iran we would destroy them.
Now if we were to lose troops it will be whilst we occupied their country, not during the invasion.
What troops could we use? We already have half of the national guard in Iraq, and much of the military forces there have had their tours extended.
We can blockade and airstrike Iran all we want, that much is true, but when it comes down to it we don't have anywhere near the manpower we'd need to launch a successful invasion and control major population centers afterward. Committing any forces to a ground invasion of Iran would mean that they'd need to come from either Iraq or Iran, which leads to either becoming even less stable due to the absence of peacekeeping troops (nevermind an Iranian counterattack). Remember that the Iranian army isn't like Iraq, we wouldn't just plow through them.
If we were to invade Iran they would come from Iraq, and stability? Fair point, but I personally have grown tired of stabilising Iraq tbh, their leader is also telling us to leave so...
And if we really wanted to bring Iran down we would ask Israel to come in and help crush them.
Lastly, ive studied Iran's technology and troop count before, their not as powerfull as you seem to think.... Will we lose soldiers? Absolutely but if we had to invade for some reason we surely wouldnt fail.
EDIT: their army has AKs and and a mix of tanks, but you shouldnt expect better then the Iraq had... They do have twice the soldiers but about the same funding as Iraq.
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Buff Plankchest
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.31 00:31:00 -
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If we attacked Iran, we would have suicide bombers attacking our schools and public buildings... the Iranians have a lot of national pride (and backwards views of the world) and they do have people inside our countries right now.
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Thorliaron
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.07.31 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Thorliaron on 31/07/2008 00:37:32
this makes some sense
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.07.31 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Buff Plankchest
If we attacked Iran, we would have suicide bombers attacking our schools and public buildings... the Iranians have a lot of national pride (and backwards views of the world) and they do have people inside our countries right now.
This is true but eventually unless something changes thats the road we're heading down anyways.
Its also noteworthy that im not suggesting we attack Iran, im just saying we would win alot easier then most people think.
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Buff Plankchest
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.31 00:36:00 -
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Well yeah, that's cause we're awesome 
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.31 00:37:00 -
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another warmongering idiot who thinks everyone who dosen't think like we do is a 'threat' 
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Buff Plankchest
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.31 00:41:00 -
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Rawr, that's the way humans have been thinking for many hundreds of years... why mess with a proven fact? 
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Zephyr Rengate
dearg doom
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Posted - 2008.07.31 00:42:00 -
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I hope the UK dont get too heavily involved in a conflict with Iran. That may change if they find a 45min threat!
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Buff Plankchest
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.31 00:44:00 -
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The UK will do what we tell them to do 
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Captain Hudson
Caldari
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.07.31 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Buff Plankchest
The UK will do what we tell them to do
we wont follow you into iran, because we dont have any troops to send
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