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Buff Plankchest Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.31 00:48:00 - [31] You got the guys in the big fuzzy hats, they'll do
Zephyr Rengate dearg doom	Posted - 2008.07.31 00:50:00 - [32] Originally by: Buff Plankchest You got the guys in the big fuzzy hats, they'll do They pwn ya ass.
Captain Hudson Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.07.31 00:50:00 - [33] Originally by: Buff Plankchest You got the guys in the big fuzzy hats, they'll do we have some prisoners and hoodies with knifes we can give you. The Real Eve FanFest
Buff Plankchest Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.31 00:51:00 - [34] Not if they can't move
Zephyr Rengate dearg doom	Posted - 2008.07.31 00:53:00 - [35] Originally by: Buff Plankchest Not if they can't move Yep they promise the queen that they will never move. Thats dedication.
Buff Plankchest Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.31 00:56:00 - [36] So they take after your women? HA!
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.07.31 01:39:00 - [37] Originally by: Zephyr Rengate Originally by: Buff Plankchest You got the guys in the big fuzzy hats, they'll do They pwn ya ass. I know who Ill be standing behind if I get drafted
EnslaverOfMinmatar Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition	Posted - 2008.07.31 02:05:00 - [38] the dude got pwned, but teh jews could bomb iran like they did with iraq
ivar R'dhak STK Scientific	Posted - 2008.07.31 02:07:00 - [39] Originally by: Thorliaron Edited by: Thorliaron on 31/07/2008 00:37:32 this makes some sense Yeah to a complete brainwashed moron. This is such a blatant propaganda piece, it boggles the mind. 1st Ahmadinethingy¦s deliberately mistranslated (by israeli sources no less, than copied by all the other lazyass "news sources") "Eradication of Israel" speech. He clearly stated erradication off ZIONISM as in the ideology. NOT the people of Israel. Then all the lurking tororrist just waiting for tha word. Newsflash nuckleheads. The second Israel or it¦s proxy America attacks Iran the RUSSIANS and CHINESE are gona open a can of whupass. F#ckin Hizbola is just of marginal interest to Israel, the 3rd World War is a wee bit more important than a bunch of so called terrrrorristas. They even had the gal to implicate Chavez in that piece of sh!t vid. Venezuela isn¦t even in the same HEMISPHERE. Pathetic. _ Mal-`Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-¦Big damn heroes sir.¦ Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.31 06:36:00 - [40] Originally by: Tarminic Watching now...and just in case anyone was wondering, there's no way that the US is going to invade Iran in the near future. It would be an incredibly terrible idea. That's what a lot of people said about Iraq, but we did it anyway. I'll point out that the people who planned the Iraq war, at least the appointed ones, and probably some of the Generals, believe that all one needs to do to win a war is to capture the capital. After that it's apparently a cakewalk. I don't know that they've learned the reality of this even after seven years. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows

ivar R'dhak STK Scientific	Posted - 2008.07.31 06:45:00 - [41] Becoming a General in any of todays western forces is mainly an indicator of their political aptitude and how many asses they reamed out on their way up. Actual capability for strategic or tactical thinking is a very distant factor of these people. _ Mal-`Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-¦Big damn heroes sir.¦ Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
ivar R'dhak STK Scientific	Posted - 2008.07.31 07:05:00 - [42] BTW, here is the link to the same Galloway clip but it has more informative and unbiased related vids than the OP one. _ Mal-`Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-¦Big damn heroes sir.¦ Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
Malcanis We are Legend	Posted - 2008.07.31 12:08:00 - [43] Originally by: Buff Plankchest The UK will do what we tell them to do Sadly, this is true. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Valan The Fated	Posted - 2008.07.31 12:22:00 - [44] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Buff Plankchest The UK will do what we tell them to do Sadly, this is true. The debt for the second world war is now paid. It was paid shortly after the 'victory' in Iraq. When we finally manage to get out of Iraq you guys are on your own. As for Israel their latest jaunt off towards Lebanon met with less success than they're used to. Fair enough they can roll a few poor Paletinians throwing rocks at them but when met with RPGs and sustained fire they're not all that anymore. They have the nuke and its a US state which are the only reasons they're still there. The worrying thing is with the US heading towards if not already in a major recession coupled with current commitments will it begin to struggle militarily. If that happens and some of the more radical stated decide the time is right the only option Israel will have is the nuke. /start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game four years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig
randomindyalt Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.31 13:30:00 - [45] I'm no economist, but generally speaking doesn't WAR=úú (or $$)? Doesn't matter so much if there are natural resources to plunder and re-development contracts to issue to yourself as a pat on the back. It means jobs for the boys back home. So in a world recession, there's mucho warmongering. Or am I just too cynical
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.31 13:43:00 - [46] Originally by: F'nog Originally by: Tarminic Watching now...and just in case anyone was wondering, there's no way that the US is going to invade Iran in the near future. It would be an incredibly terrible idea. That's what a lot of people said about Iraq, but we did it anyway. I'll point out that the people who planned the Iraq war, at least the appointed ones, and probably some of the Generals, believe that all one needs to do to win a war is to capture the capital. After that it's apparently a cakewalk. I don't know that they've learned the reality of this even after seven years. Well, back then we had aout 200 thousand extra troops to work with. Now we have...half the national guard. Not gonna happen. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Slanty McGarglefist	Posted - 2008.07.31 13:47:00 - [47] I think Americans and her Allies are so tired of the war that's currently being waged now I doubt we'd see any support for it. Also, Iran has a little more up its sleeve as was said in the video and other people here. Iran has a nuclear program and most of their missiles are scattered about the country. The chances of hitting everything and not missing a single missile will be extremely difficult to pull off and I'm not sure it would be worth it. Now, I was under the impression that the Iranians were developing their nuclear program for power plants and such/ Am I being naive to believe that? __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Wrangler No Doh!
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.07.31 15:01:00 - [48] Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist Edited by: Slanty McGarglefist on 31/07/2008 13:47:30 Now, I was under the impression that the Iranians were developing their nuclear program for power plants and such. Am I being naive to believe that or are they developing weapons grade plutonium for nuclear or chemical weapons? This is kinda unknown, I mean you cant ever see whats going on in one's head. But if I were to assume ackmeblablabla is a man of his word, that would be a yes.
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2008.07.31 16:56:00 - [49] People with small **s wants their country to go attack someone else so they can feel superior... they are the worst of mankind. --- Originally by:** Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
Reiisha Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence	Posted - 2008.07.31 17:22:00 - [50] Funny how most of the people who are talking about "an easy victory" are completely ignoring a lot of lives that will be lost. How easy it is for the military to ignore any and all consequences. Afterall, the generals are nice and safe in their bunkers. EVE History Wiki

goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.07.31 17:51:00 - [51] Originally by: Reiisha Funny how most of the people who are talking about "an easy victory" are completely ignoring a lot of lives that will be lost. How easy it is for the military to ignore any and all consequences. Afterall, the generals are nice and safe in their bunkers. Lives are lost in war, thats a fact of life... Which is why I would never support going into Iran unless I had was shown a damn good reason for doing so. But that being said, they would be crushed.
Zephyr Rengate dearg doom	Posted - 2008.07.31 18:04:00 - [52] Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist Edited by: Slanty McGarglefist on 31/07/2008 13:47:30 I think Americans and her Allies are so tired of the war that's currently being waged now I doubt we'd see any support for it. Also, Iran has a little more up its sleeve as was said in the video and other people here. Iran has a nuclear program and most of their missiles are scattered about the country. The chances of hitting everything and not missing a single missile will be extremely difficult to pull off and I'm not sure it would be worth it. Now, I was under the impression that the Iranians were developing their nuclear program for power plants and such. Am I being naive to believe that or are they developing weapons grade plutonium for nuclear or chemical weapons? I dont know but they have plenty of oil so why not use that for powerplants. Unless its a long term investment, even then they could hold back the idea for a few years when the middleasts a bit calmer.
ivar R'dhak STK Scientific	Posted - 2008.07.31 18:10:00 - [53] This John Ritter speech fits like fist on eyeball: Why are Americans such crazy bullies? _ Mal-`Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-¦Big damn heroes sir.¦ Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.31 18:28:00 - [54] Originally by: goodby4u Originally by: Reiisha Funny how most of the people who are talking about "an easy victory" are completely ignoring a lot of lives that will be lost. How easy it is for the military to ignore any and all consequences. Afterall, the generals are nice and safe in their bunkers. Lives are lost in war, thats a fact of life... Which is why I would never support going into Iran unless I had was shown a damn good reason for doing so. But that being said, they would be crushed. At the expense of any hope of maintaining peace in Iraq or Afghanistan. The US literally doesn't have the manpower to maintain order in Iraq and Afghanistan and repel an Iranian counterattack. So the moment we attack, we lose. The US army isn't invincible, you know. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.31 18:30:00 - [55] Originally by: Zephyr Rengate I dont know but they have plenty of oil so why not use that for powerplants. Unless its a long term investment, even then they could hold back the idea for a few years when the middleasts a bit calmer. Nuclear power is much cheaper, I believe. Why generate power at $150 a barrel when you can sell the barrel, spend $50 on nuclear power, and keep the extra $100? ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.31 18:31:00 - [56] I feel bad for that man. He's just a simple Daily Mail reader, he doesn't know what he's letting himself in for ------ Originally by: Micheal Dietrich You can even get a midget with a camera to sit on the floorboard.
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.07.31 18:32:00 - [57] Originally by: ivar R'dhak This John Ritter speech fits like fist on eyeball: Why are Americans such crazy bullies? I agree with the first part where he says take control of the information you get... But we arent bullies, we might participate in the rest of the world too much, but thats because isolationism doesnt work.... And you might ask why specifically the middle east? Well several reasons but the underlining reason is our economy is driven by a product they make and it is important to defend such an important resource.
Nuovo Baggu Amarr The Three Laws	Posted - 2008.07.31 18:36:00 - [58] Tarminic & goodby4u: armchair generals in a thread making fun of armchair generals. You're pretty naive and childish to think that the true politics, military circumstances and other factors surrounding invading Iran and maintaining stability in Iraq are as simple as ABC or "we don't have enough manpower".
Xen Gin Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion	Posted - 2008.07.31 18:42:00 - [59] Edited by: Xen Gin on 31/07/2008 18:42:00 What would happen if US Gas was $12 a gallon? A recent news article I read states that Iranian missiles were pointed at Saudi Arabia, Oman and Yeman, and not Israel. The West wouldn't attack Iran while their economies are still heavily influenced by crude oil.
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.31 18:43:00 - [60] Originally by: Nuovo Baggu Tarminic & goodby4u: armchair generals in a thread making fun of armchair generals. You're pretty naive and childish to think that the true politics, military circumstances and other factors surrounding invading Iran and maintaining stability in Iraq are as simple as ABC or "we don't have enough manpower". Unless our field commanders have been lying to congress, maintaining enough manpower to keep Iraq and Afghanistan stable and launching some kind of major military operation on a country that neighbors both is pretty much impossible. I'm going by recent congressional testimony. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)

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