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Face Palmer
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.07.31 14:09:00 -
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Sometimes I touch myself - does that mean I'm ghey? sry confused
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Marissa Drew
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Posted - 2008.07.31 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Face Palmer Sometimes I touch myself - does that mean I'm ghey? sry confused
No just an evil sinner doomed to the hellfires eternel torment. Remember, its Adam and Eve, not Adam and playdude magazine!
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.31 14:21:00 -
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Good GOD, this was worse than I expected! Oh EVE, how your community has fallen.
Anyway, best of luck with your corp. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |
Marissa Drew
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Posted - 2008.07.31 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic Good GOD, this was worse than I expected! Oh EVE, how your community has fallen.
Anyway, best of luck with your corp.
From discussions with my mates, I have pretty much decided that lgbt friendly is going to be a selling point, but not the main point. I am gonna need to do some thinking on where I would want a corp to go, while im with my partner pretending to help with the food shopping ;)
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Slanty McGarglefist
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Posted - 2008.07.31 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Marissa Drew
Originally by: Tarminic Good GOD, this was worse than I expected! Oh EVE, how your community has fallen.
Anyway, best of luck with your corp.
From discussions with my mates, I have pretty much decided that lgbt friendly is going to be a selling point, but not the main point. I am gonna need to do some thinking on where I would want a corp to go, while im with my partner pretending to help with the food shopping ;)
Expect massive Wardecs from Amarrian-based corps. __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Wrangler No
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MenanceWhite
Amarr Red Light Navy
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Posted - 2008.07.31 14:36:00 -
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I don't quite understand any reason for this - It's not like people with same sexuality would mean that they get along well with each other.
I mean, for what; Conversations about normal life as a whatever you are? Of all people I've met it does'nt really matter with what sexual preference they've had. We're after all behind silly game avatars.
People that are oh-so-interested in conversations about sex/etc are ususally either kids or people that does'nt get enough of it in their own lives. Lots people I know would just consider whatever stories as boasting, in something that's not exactly worth boasting about.
This game is about having fun so go do whatever that fancies your mind lol. ---
Originally by: Torfi There's alot. That can be done. With.. corpses
Originally by: Oveur
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.31 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist
Originally by: Marissa Drew
Originally by: Tarminic Good GOD, this was worse than I expected! Oh EVE, how your community has fallen.
Anyway, best of luck with your corp.
From discussions with my mates, I have pretty much decided that lgbt friendly is going to be a selling point, but not the main point. I am gonna need to do some thinking on where I would want a corp to go, while im with my partner pretending to help with the food shopping ;)
Expect massive Wardecs from Amarrian-based corps.
Knowing the Amarr, this wouldn't happen due to half of them having alts in it. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |
Lily Cole
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Posted - 2008.07.31 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: Lily Cole on 31/07/2008 14:50:35 I was thinking of starting a corp "for only"/"aimed at" straight white males only.
"Only for"/"aimed at" straight people. That are white. And Male.
How does that sound? Can we have a corp like that?
Of course we wouldn't exclude freaks, pinkos, nutters and coloureds, we'd welcome them in, for sure. And for that reason alone, they would just LOVE to join our straight white male environment that is aimed at straight white males. |
Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.31 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Lily Cole I was thinking of starting a corp for only straight white males only.
Only straight people. That are white. And Male.
How does that sound? Can we have a corp like that?
I was thinking of starting a corp for trolls. I'll send you an invite. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |
Aneu Angellus
Caldari Revival.
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Posted - 2008.07.31 14:51:00 -
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Navi, are you following me...? ________________ REVIVAL
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JuJu Bubble
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Posted - 2008.07.31 14:51:00 -
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Edited by: JuJu Bubble on 31/07/2008 14:52:39
Originally by: Tarminic
I was thinking of starting a corp for trolls. I'll send you an invite.
Go for it. Didnt somebody already.... recently say it... caod full of. |
Amandin Adouin
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Posted - 2008.07.31 14:52:00 -
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Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 31/07/2008 14:54:06
Originally by: Lily Cole I was thinking of starting a corp for only straight white males only.
Only straight people. That are white. And Male.
How does that sound? Can we have a corp like that?
Yeah I know he's a troll, but wtf? I'm seeing alot of latent homophobia coming out - I really expected more from Eve players. /Disapointed.
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Lily Cole
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Posted - 2008.07.31 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Amandin Adouin
Yeah I know he's a troll, but wtf? I'm seeing alot of latent homophobia coming out - I really expected more from Eve players. /Disapointed.
You can call it homophobia if you are on the phobia bandwagon. Nobody cares. If you fear homosexuality, that's your business, don't try to apply your irrational fears on the rest of us, it doesn't work. I know what I fear. It isn't homosexuality.
Phobia. Fear.
Dislike. Disgust. Loathing.
These two concepts are different
Bandwagonner, not able to understand difference. |
Marie Trudeau
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:00:00 -
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Edited by: Marie Trudeau on 31/07/2008 15:00:31
Yeah I've come round to calling it "homo-hatred", myself. May as well call a spade a spade, and not give people the benefit of classing their hate as "fear".
To the OP: you can try this. Certainly I have been involved with a few EVE corps who were LGBT friendly, while not at all being LGBT based. It's all about creating a friendly environment for diversity, in my view. --------------------------- Backstory at: [url=http://eve-search.com/thread/163363/page/1] here [/url]
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari Revival.
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lily Cole
Originally by: Amandin Adouin
Yeah I know he's a troll, but wtf? I'm seeing alot of latent homophobia coming out - I really expected more from Eve players. /Disapointed.
You can call it homophobia if you are on the phobia bandwagon. Nobody cares. If you fear homosexuality, that's your business, don't try to apply your irrational fears on the rest of us, it doesn't work. I know what I fear. It isn't homosexuality.
Phobia. Fear.
Dislike. Disgust. Loathing.
These two concepts are different
Bandwagonner, not able to understand difference.
You sir diserve to be hung up by your short and curleys... Very imature for you to post against this.
Being a person who is part of the LGBT community if i ever heard you say this in real life you'd have a problem.
But anyway, this is a game and these forums are deffinatley not a place for this to be discussed with all the imature posters here. ________________ REVIVAL
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Lily Cole
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Being a person who is part of the LGBT community if i ever heard you say this in real life you'd have a problem.
Did you not understand the bit where I said I didn't fear you?
Let me make it clear.
You don't scare me. Your veiled threat bounces off me like raindrops. I dislike your kind, your kind is disgusting, and loathesome. That's my free view. I'm entitled to it. I'm entitled to express it.
I have nothing to fear.
If you want to make good on your threats of RL violence over somebody who dislikes you, you should seek help elsewhere, because LGBT clearly isn't your only problem.
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Amandin Adouin
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 31/07/2008 15:14:41 Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 31/07/2008 15:14:13
Originally by: Lily Cole
You can call it homophobia if you are on the phobia bandwagon. Nobody cares. If you fear homosexuality, that's your business, don't try to apply your irrational fears on the rest of us, it doesn't work. I know what I fear. It isn't homosexuality. Phobia. Fear. Dislike. Disgust. Loathing. These two concepts are different Bandwagonner, not able to understand difference.
What you said doesn't even make sense "If you fear homosexuality, that's your business, don't try to apply your irrational fears on the rest of us" If you were actually referring to me, as the context of your sentence indicated didn't you mean 'if you fear homophobia'? And if so, you were actually guilty of saying exactly what you're deriding me for. Your thoughts are all jarbled. I think you need to get laid
Originally by: Lily Cole
Did you not understand the bit where I said I didn't fear you? Let me make it clear. You don't scare me. Your veiled threat bounces off me like raindrops. I dislike your kind, your kind is disgusting, and loathesome. That's my free view. I'm entitled to it. I'm entitled to express it. I have nothing to fear.
Wow. Dude. You have some serious issues and you need to get with the 21st century. P.S. I'm a straight girl. I just hate shits like you.
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Eggy Yolk
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Eggy Yolk on 31/07/2008 15:14:52
Quote: I'm seeing alot of latent homophobia coming out - I really expected more from Eve players.
Its par for the course. I was in a large alliance that prided itself on its family friendly and non-discriminatory attitudes and sense of fair play. Swearing was frowned upon for instance in case peoples kids read it. People were kicked for both racist and sexist attitudes.
Despite all of this the "G word" (filter says no..) was used as a general purpose insult ad nauseum. A badly fitted ship had a "gay fitting" etc. None of that suprised me its just a bit sad. To the person who said that theres no point setting up a group like this in eve, prehaps people who dont like a word describing their sexual orientation being used as a byword for stupid might like to join???
Good luck with your corp. Its good that someone is doing this in a way that is sensible and not covered in pink sequins! You are of course aware that you are painting a huge bullseye on yourselves and will be decced repeatedly by gangs of 14yo griefers, hope youre ready for it!
edit: maybe filter says yes? or did the quotation mark throw it...
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari Revival.
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lily Cole
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Being a person who is part of the LGBT community if i ever heard you say this in real life you'd have a problem.
Did you not understand the bit where I said I didn't fear you?
Let me make it clear.
You don't scare me. Your veiled threat bounces off me like raindrops. I dislike your kind, your kind is disgusting, and loathesome. That's my free view. I'm entitled to it. I'm entitled to express it.
I have nothing to fear.
If you want to make good on your threats of RL violence over somebody who dislikes you, you should seek help elsewhere, because LGBT clearly isn't your only problem.
So if you have nothing to fear and are free to express it why use an alt?
Use your main. ________________ REVIVAL
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Lily Cole
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Amandin Adouin Wow. Dude. You have some serious issues and you need to get with the 21st century. P.S. I'm a straight girl. I just hate shits like you.
I don't care what you are or what you hate. |
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Lily Cole
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Aneu Angellus
So if you have nothing to fear and are free to express it why use an alt?
Use your main.
Doesn't matter I post with, the words remain the same, since it's still me at this keyboard. If you think I'm going to invite people I don't like into my Eve time, you are horribly horribly wrong. Wronger than you normally are. |
Amandin Adouin
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:24:00 -
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Wow nothing really gets the blood running like a good old fashioned argument on the EO forums, does it? I think I need some quite time now... Troll feeding time is over.
Anyway good luck Marissa!
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Lily Cole
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Amandin Adouin
Oh, and you're also stupid. That "hatred" and "loathing" that you profess for gay people really comes from the fear that you are one somewhere deep inside. That's where the term homophobia comes from. Get an education.
Right, this point here, this is the single most insulting thing the homosexual community has ever managed to come up with.
I'll explain why, not that you will understand, because it is clear that you are a moron, but others reading, they might understand.
The accusation is that Loathing something is because that is what I Fear I am, this is the mantra of the LGBT community and its sympathisers. Got that?
Ok, let's move on, but remember that Loathing = Fear That Is What You Are. Let's call that "Paradigm A"
Ok, ready?
You sure you're ready to move on?
Here goes....
EVERYBODY loathes pedophiles.
I think we should take a moment to recall "Paradigm A"
That's right. The LGBT community and all it's sympathisers hold the belief, that you are all pedophiles.
Well thanks for that insult.
Either we are all pedophiles, OR , "Paradigm A" is ONLY TRUE if you loathe homosexual people.
Or I'm right, and I can loathe something without being it.
I told you that you wouldn't understand it. And your reply is about to prove I was right, again. |
Eggy Yolk
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:39:00 -
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Edited by: Eggy Yolk on 31/07/2008 15:39:14 Theres a peer reviewed psychology paper somewhere that found that upon viewing homosexual pron, self identifying "homophobic" men became more aroused by it on average than non homophobes by a large margin...
arousal was measured physically - theres actually an instrument designed to do that
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Amandin Adouin
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:42:00 -
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Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 31/07/2008 15:44:32
You actually have a point there about the pedophilia, can't argue with you there.
The reason why homophobia is different from pedophelia is two-fold. 1. Being gay doesn't actually hurt anyone, pedophilia does. So an irrational hatred of gay people is, well irrational; whilst everyone hates those who try to screw kids. 2. Secondly, the level of outward hatred homophobic people show toward gay people is so completely over the top, that there has to be some underlying reason. This takes us back to point 1. They're not hurting you, so wtf do you care?
And yeah, they have done experiments where the actually measured the physical manefestations of your um, hatred.
Anyway, I actually almost never resort to personal insults, I was just so completely taken aback by your comments, that well... Anyway, while I've enjoyed arguing with you, I really do need to get back to work though.
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Lily Cole
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Eggy Yolk Edited by: Eggy Yolk on 31/07/2008 15:39:14 Theres a peer reviewed psychology paper somewhere that found that upon viewing homosexual pron, self identifying "homophobic" men became more aroused by it on average than non homophobes by a large margin...
arousal was measured physically - theres actually an instrument designed to do that
--- Theres a peer reviewed psychology paper somewhere that found that upon viewing homosexual pron, self identifying "homophobic" men became less aroused by it on average than non homophobes by a large margin...
arousal was measured physically - theres actually an instrument designed to do that ---
Scientists find what they are PAID to find. No science research is done for free. It's done to a budget. Somebody is paying and they want an answer. Sometimes the answer is truth they need, sometimes the answer needs to be convenient.
If science was exact, holy, uncorruptable and simple, we would have never even heard the term Global Warming, it would have been identified and corrected with little fuss.
But it's not, it's a mess, particularly when it comes to anything to do with human behaviour, travelling 100 miles along a freeway is enough to discover a change in human behaviour or attitudes. Getting on a plane, it becomes even greater the change.
I know what I am, it's very clear to me, the veiled insults, the cheap shots and jibes, all they do is poison you own mind into believing what somebody wants you to believe, and you're just passing it on to others, if somebody wants to put something new into my head, they'd better have some reasons sorted out already as to why it deserves to occupy space in their.
Grade School or Internet psychiatrists who once read something neat on wikipedia, well they're not going to be any good at it. |
Marie Trudeau
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:56:00 -
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I'm not sure that homo hatred always has to do with a subconscious fear of self. I think it's more culturally conditioned than anything else.
Remember that the cornerstone culture for Western Civilization -- classical Greece -- was not homo-hating in the least. That attitude continued in the Roman Empire, which differentiated between the "role" played by the participating men (female homosexuality is not well docmumented due to the general subjugation of women in the period), but took homosexual attraction as a given and not as an abomination in the least.
What happened was that Judeo-Christianity, which stood out in the world of the Mediterranean for its extremely anti-homosexual views, won the day (and by virtue of the incorporation of these ideas into Islam and the spread of both the Islamic and Christian ideologies globally, pretty much ensconced a culture of homo-hatred throughout much of the world), and effectively the very anti-gay Jewish biblical norms became encultured into the West, overriding what had been the tolerant attitude towards homosexuality that prevailed in the pre-Christian civilization. But it's important to remember that our foundational culture was not homo-hating in the least. --------------------------- Backstory at: [url=http://eve-search.com/thread/163363/page/1] here [/url]
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Lily Cole
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Posted - 2008.07.31 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Marie Trudeau But it's important to remember that our foundational culture was not homo-hating in the least.
So you're convinced it's nurture, not nature.... You've stepped out onto the tight rope. Welcome. |
Amandin Adouin
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Posted - 2008.07.31 16:14:00 -
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Excellent post Marie. You're absolutely right, I just got so worked up by what he said that I resorted to the easiest argument, without even thinking of civilization in the larger picture.
As to the research comments, that's actually what I do. I work for an independent research company. We get hired to conduct tests, as a third-party, to provide unbiased results. While I agree that there are definately those who do conduct research to suit their own purposes, most research that's conducted is ethical. Props for not being one of those people still insisting global warming isn't happening. We've got quite a few of those still here in America
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Marie Trudeau
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.07.31 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Lily Cole
Originally by: Marie Trudeau But it's important to remember that our foundational culture was not homo-hating in the least.
So you're convinced it's nurture, not nature.... You've stepped out onto the tight rope. Welcome.
To the same degree that so-called "heteronormativity" is also nurture, not nature. :) --------------------------- Backstory at: [url=http://eve-search.com/thread/163363/page/1] here [/url]
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