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Hydrian Battlecorre
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Posted - 2008.07.31 02:30:00 -
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Ive been browsing the forums for a bit..and reading up some on the effects on the upcomming patch...and was rly wondering how everyone is now going to fit their post patch vagas?..or is it dead completly?
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.31 02:32:00 -
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A) Same way B) Afterburner ( - don't see any reason to fly it over another hac) C) Drake (LSEs and SPRs...)
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Stab Wounds
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.07.31 06:22:00 -
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afterburner armor tank
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Liang Nuren
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.31 06:28:00 -
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Edited by: Liang Nuren on 31/07/2008 06:32:08 You trade it in for a Cerb. You did train your missile skills up for the 3 launcher hardpoints on the 'clone, right? :)
-Liang
Ed: While I know that the Drake is a much cheaper choice, the Cerb has better range with HAMs... and HAMs will be viable in an AB world. -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. -- Mahatma Gandhi |

Atsuko Ratu
Caldari VSP Corp.
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Posted - 2008.07.31 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren You trade it in for a Cerb. You did train your missile skills up for the 3 launcher hardpoints on the 'clone, right? :)
-Liang
Cerb? Nonsense. Drake.
You did learn heavy missiles 5 for that missile slot on the vaga, right?

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Liang Nuren
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.31 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Atsuko Ratu
Cerb? Nonsense. Drake.
You did learn heavy missiles 5 for that missile slot on the vaga, right?
Actually, I learned HML 5 for my Drake over a year ago. You might remember. ;-)
I'll probably have my Matari alt weather the current and upcoming suckage in a Covops. I mean, there's no better place to finish fleshing out my support skills. 8M in Gunnery just isn't enough, you know?
-Liang -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. -- Mahatma Gandhi |

Atsuko Ratu
Caldari VSP Corp.
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Posted - 2008.07.31 06:48:00 -
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Edited by: Atsuko Ratu on 31/07/2008 06:48:29
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Actually, I learned HML 5 for my Drake over a year ago. You might remember. ;-)
I'll probably have my Matari alt weather the current and upcoming suckage in a Covops. I mean, there's no better place to finish fleshing out my support skills. 8M in Gunnery just isn't enough, you know?
-Liang
I do remember 
Use that alt as your forward scout. Those are always nice to have in lowsec~nulsec, and the matari covops isn't that bad...
Edit: Forgot to mention, the vaga comment was for the thread starter, not you 

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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar Oyster Colors
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Posted - 2008.07.31 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: Stab Wounds afterburner armor tank
Yea, it works really great with armor tank, you get around the same tank as a hurricane while you do 1/2 of the dps.
Or you can go for a rupture-grade tank, and also get rupture dps, not bad for a HAC 
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Riho
Gallente Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.07.31 07:39:00 -
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ill fit it just as before. just whitout any nanos/ods or speed rigs
more damage and more shield rigs ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
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DeathsEmbrace
Minmatar The Renegades Asylum DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2008.07.31 12:47:00 -
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Funnily enough the vaga will passive tank aswell as the drake, with arty for the range and its high base speed, I think it'll still be remotely usfull after the massive nerph to speed. But no where near as fun! To live is to die, and to die is to give life. Thus pain is a form of euphoria.
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: DeathsEmbrace Funnily enough the vaga will passive tank aswell as the drake, with arty for the range and its high base speed, I think it'll still be remotely usfull after the massive nerph to speed. But no where near as fun!
You want to fit arty.. and large shield extenders... on a vaga. At the same time?
Good luck tbh. Mine barely fits with 2 LSEs and a full rack of ACs, nevermind artillery.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: DeathsEmbrace Funnily enough the vaga will passive tank aswell as the drake, with arty for the range and its high base speed, I think it'll still be remotely usfull after the massive nerph to speed. But no where near as fun!
You want to fit arty.. and large shield extenders... on a vaga. At the same time?
Good luck tbh. Mine barely fits with 2 LSEs and a full rack of ACs, nevermind artillery.
May I proudly present the BRICKABOND! never mind the ****ed up lowslots, its kind of tight in ummm.... every department, especially the "making sense" one:
[Brickabond] Reactor Control Unit II Power Diagnostic System II Shield Power Relay II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II
650mm Artillery Cannon II 650mm Artillery Cannon II 650mm Artillery Cannon II 650mm Artillery Cannon II 650mm Artillery Cannon II [optional goodie]
Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I
For those of you with a broken sarcasm detector: No, I don't actually think it's a good idea 
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: P'uck
Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: DeathsEmbrace Funnily enough the vaga will passive tank aswell as the drake, with arty for the range and its high base speed, I think it'll still be remotely usfull after the massive nerph to speed. But no where near as fun!
You want to fit arty.. and large shield extenders... on a vaga. At the same time?
Good luck tbh. Mine barely fits with 2 LSEs and a full rack of ACs, nevermind artillery.
May I proudly present the BRICKABOND! never mind the ****ed up lowslots, its kind of tight in ummm.... every department, especially the "making sense" one:
[Brickabond] Reactor Control Unit II Power Diagnostic System II Shield Power Relay II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II
650mm Artillery Cannon II 650mm Artillery Cannon II 650mm Artillery Cannon II 650mm Artillery Cannon II 650mm Artillery Cannon II [optional goodie]
Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I
For those of you with a broken sarcasm detector: No, I don't actually think it's a good idea 
Half assed passive tank, no speed, DPS comparable to a t1 frigate. Looks uber... the arties don't use any cap!
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
Half assed passive tank, no speed, DPS comparable to a t1 frigate. Looks uber... the arties don't use any cap!
I dare you to do better!
Let's hijack this and spam it with brickabond setups!
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:36:00 -
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My EFT skills are nigh untouchable! More tank, more EHP, and room for a launcher
[Vagabond, Brickabond astro] Shield Power Relay II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II
650mm Artillery Cannon II, Quake M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Quake M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Quake M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Quake M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Quake M Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile
Core Defence Field Purger I Ancillary Current Router I
Hobgoblin II x5
6km range on the quake! 444 DPS. 12km with RF EMP, 413 DPS,
Ubar! Nerf! 
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Euriti
Gallente SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic My EFT skills are nigh untouchable! More tank, more EHP, and room for a launcher
[Vagabond, Brickabond astro] Shield Power Relay II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II
650mm Artillery Cannon II, Quake M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Quake M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Quake M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Quake M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Quake M Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile
Core Defence Field Purger I Ancillary Current Router I
Hobgoblin II x5
6km range on the quake! 444 DPS. 12km with RF EMP, 413 DPS,
Ubar! Nerf! 
I could kill that with a thorax. 
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:49:00 -
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Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 31/07/2008 15:53:17 Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 31/07/2008 15:49:14 Im gonna fit mine something like this:
[Vagabond, Test] Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Medium Armor Repairer II Damage Control II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Javelin Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Javelin Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Javelin Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Javelin Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Javelin Assault Missile Small Nosferatu II
Auxiliary Nano Pump I Nanobot Accelerator I
Warrior II x3
Oh wait.......its a Sacriledge I am going to pretend is a well-balanced post-nerf Vagabond  .
Here's to headrolling .
**EDIT**Who needs a web with a warp scram fitted and shitting missiles.....make mine ECCM .
 "Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
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Mashie Saldana
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2008.07.31 18:11:00 -
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I will fit mine just the same, falloff vagas are fun.

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d3vo
The Space BorderLine United For 0rder
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Posted - 2008.07.31 18:23:00 -
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The nerf is going to change. Don't plan on anything until it is final. I seriously hope CCP gets this one right. __________ \(^.^)/ |

Jenny' JoJo
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.07.31 18:26:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny'' JoJo on 31/07/2008 18:26:32 H: 220 II x 5, 1 x Heavy missile launcher II with Navy Ammo M: AB II, Web II, Scram II, Medium Cap Booster II L: Med rep II, EXP hardner II, Kin Hardner II, 2 x Gyro II Drones: 5 x Hobgoblin II Rigs: Any rigs you want
Does 470 DPS. If you use barrage, even after falloff you do 300DPS at 24km. And you still move faster than any non-ab boat.
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KingCappo
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.07.31 19:15:00 -
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Dudes, its called a HEAVY assault ship, so you gotta make it HEAVY:
[Vagabond, lolHAC] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Magnetic Membrane II Energized Reactive Membrane II Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II
Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Prototype Cloaking Device I
Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I
Fits with a 1% pg implant. Don't need a web, because since "everything is going slower now," you are still the relatively "fastest cruiser ever designed." If you run into a blob, just cloak to "avoid the fight."
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.07.31 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic My EFT skills are nigh untouchable! More tank, more EHP, and room for a launcher
but everything below 3 gyros is herecy!
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.31 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: P'uck
Originally by: AstroPhobic My EFT skills are nigh untouchable! More tank, more EHP, and room for a launcher
but everything below 3 gyros is herecy!
[Vagabond, Lazors] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II
10MN Afterburner II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400 Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile
Auxiliary Thrusters I Auxiliary Thrusters I
Hobgoblin II x5
424 DPS, 1401m/s.
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Transmaniacon
Minmatar Strike-Force-Alpha
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Posted - 2008.07.31 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: P'uck
Originally by: AstroPhobic My EFT skills are nigh untouchable! More tank, more EHP, and room for a launcher
but everything below 3 gyros is herecy!
[Vagabond, Lazors] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II
10MN Afterburner II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400 Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile
Auxiliary Thrusters I Auxiliary Thrusters I
Hobgoblin II x5
424 DPS, 1401m/s.
This is even sadder than the laser/torp 'pest
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.31 19:53:00 -
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Edited by: AstroPhobic on 31/07/2008 19:53:21
Originally by: Transmaniacon
This is even sadder than the laser/torp 'pest
750 DPS at 45km for sansha/blood ratting goodness? Yes, please! 
Edit: It was cruise 
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Transmaniacon
Minmatar Strike-Force-Alpha
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Posted - 2008.07.31 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic Edit: It was cruise
/me cries
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Car Wars
Shinra
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Posted - 2008.07.31 20:39:00 -
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1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Magnetic Membrane II Energized Reactive Membrane II Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II
Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II
anyone?
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.07.31 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Car Wars 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Magnetic Membrane II Energized Reactive Membrane II Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II
Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II
anyone?
that setup sucks
it needs a tractor in the last high, and a roid scanner in the meds. also dont forget to bring some mining drones. maybe a drone nav comp if it affects mining drone speed, so you can haul da oar fastur.
tbh i miss the cargo rigs, too.
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.07.31 21:01:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 31/07/2008 21:02:52 I saw (fought in a Rupture, lost miserably) a interesting one on SISI:
4x 220mm AC II D180mm AC II medium neut
MWD disruptor II 2x LSE II
DC II 3x Gyro II nanofiber II
extender rigs
Traditional nano fits seem preety bad.
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.07.31 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny' JoJo Edited by: Jenny'' JoJo on 31/07/2008 18:26:32 H: 220 II x 5, 1 x Heavy missile launcher II with Navy Ammo M: AB II, Web II, Scram II, Medium Cap Booster II L: Med rep II, EXP hardner II, Kin Hardner II, 2 x Gyro II Drones: 5 x Hobgoblin II Rigs: Any rigs you want
Does 470 DPS. If you use barrage, even after falloff you do 300DPS at 24km. And you still move faster than any non-ab boat.
And die to a cookie-cutter Rupture, lol. Yeah, single rep tanks with no effective HP and bad resists are full of win.
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