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Benilopax
Gallente
Pulsar Combat Supplies
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.08.01 17:53:00 -
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With all the up coming advancements in medicine, space exploration, and invention are we heading into a golden age of science?
Babies born today may very well live more than 100 years, and implant technology is just twenty years away.
Perhaps the immortals from our world will be a reality sooner than the backstory suggests?
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Benilopax
Gallente
Pulsar Combat Supplies
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.08.01 17:53:00 -
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With all the up coming advancements in medicine, space exploration, and invention are we heading into a golden age of science?
Babies born today may very well live more than 100 years, and implant technology is just twenty years away.
Perhaps the immortals from our world will be a reality sooner than the backstory suggests?
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soldieroffortune 258
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Posted - 2008.08.01 17:55:00 -
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lets hope, and develop warp drive and find some klingons, or tatooine, i would really like to live in a star wars style universe, that would be awesome, every other person is planning on taking over the galaxy, single men can form massive drone armies, and flying cars, and courusant, a city the size of a planet, that would be cool
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soldieroffortune 258
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Posted - 2008.08.01 17:55:00 -
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lets hope, and develop warp drive and find some klingons, or tatooine, i would really like to live in a star wars style universe, that would be awesome, every other person is planning on taking over the galaxy, single men can form massive drone armies, and flying cars, and courusant, a city the size of a planet, that would be cool
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.08.01 17:58:00 -
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Edited by: YouGotRipped on 01/08/2008 18:01:11
 Originally by: Benilopax
With all the up coming advancements in medicine, space exploration, and invention are we heading into a golden age of science?
Babies born today may very well live more than 100 years, and implant technology is just twenty years away.
Perhaps the immortals from our world will be a reality sooner than the backstory suggests?
Don't be stupid, life is a process of wear and tear.
Evolution and accumulation of knowledge is only made possible by the survival of the fittest, ageing and biological death.
Next!
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Sothis Antares
PBA Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.01 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
lets hope, and develop warp drive and find some klingons, or tatooine, i would really like to live in a star wars style universe, that would be awesome, every other person is planning on taking over the galaxy, single men can form massive drone armies, and flying cars, and courusant, a city the size of a planet, that would be cool
i for one, would really love having klingons as neighbours 
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AmosTrask
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Posted - 2008.08.01 18:10:00 -
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I will reply properly when i get the chance,
Just wanted to drop you this link...Time travel
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters
DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.08.01 18:49:00 -
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lets invent immortality
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Pwett
Minmatar
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.08.01 18:53:00 -
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So, you're telling me that I'm NEVER going to stop paying social security? You just totally ruined my day. the way I was looking at it, I had 50 years more taxes, MAX.
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Kirjava
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.08.01 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: Pwett
So, you're telling me that I'm NEVER going to stop paying social security? You just totally ruined my day. the way I was looking at it, I had 50 years more taxes, MAX.
I think the American view on life would collapse if immortality were to become the norm.
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zephyr1234
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Posted - 2008.08.01 18:57:00 -
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I dont really care what crap they invent next. At the end of the day we will still just kill eachother in more advanced ways. 
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Sothis Antares
PBA Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.01 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: zephyr1234
I dont really care what crap they invent next. At the end of the day we will still just kill eachother in more advanced ways.
yarrr 
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.08.01 18:59:00 -
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The day the first immortal is born, manufactored or what have you will be the darkest day in human history. If you can not kill a being, what is to stop it from becoming the most sadistic, tyrannic, evil human ever to walk on the earth? If everyone became immortal, well, you think we have population problems now? Wait till the death rate goes to near 0 with the birth rate being as high as it is today.
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Zephyr Rengate
dearg doom
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Posted - 2008.08.01 19:03:00 -
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The whole implant thingy is what scares me.
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Kirjava
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.08.01 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Mei
The day the first immortal is born, manufactored or what have you will be the darkest day in human history. If you can not kill a being, what is to stop it from becoming the most sadistic, tyrannic, evil human ever to walk on the earth? If everyone became immortal, well, you think we have population problems now? Wait till the death rate goes to near 0 with the birth rate being as high as it is today.
Well, guess which group of people will be able to afford immortality first? We would not be true immortals, just postmortal.
By that I mean we would be immune to ageing and disease/illness, anything else likely fair game.
Given what you just said, would immortals be stupid enough to declare they are already here?
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Irish Whiskey
Caldari
The Black Fleet
The Black Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.01 19:26:00 -
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I would never want to be immortal:
1. Immortality by yourself gives you nothing but seeing everyone you learn to live with and love get old, suffer, then die.
2. Immortality with everyone else gives a false sense of security which is broken when the first freak of the 'new' nature dies, causing much more hurt.
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Pwett
Minmatar
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.08.01 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Mei
The day the first immortal is born, manufactored or what have you will be the darkest day in human history. If you can not kill a being, what is to stop it from becoming the most sadistic, tyrannic, evil human ever to walk on the earth? If everyone became immortal, well, you think we have population problems now? Wait till the death rate goes to near 0 with the birth rate being as high as it is today.
This is what we call morality. :)
There is nothing stopping that from happing now. What's the difference between somone who doesn't value his life and someone who won't die naturally?
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.08.01 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: Jacob Mei
The day the first immortal is born, manufactored or what have you will be the darkest day in human history. If you can not kill a being, what is to stop it from becoming the most sadistic, tyrannic, evil human ever to walk on the earth? If everyone became immortal, well, you think we have population problems now? Wait till the death rate goes to near 0 with the birth rate being as high as it is today.
Well, guess which group of people will be able to afford immortality first? We would not be true immortals, just postmortal.
By that I mean we would be immune to ageing and disease/illness, anything else likely fair game.
Given what you just said, would immortals be stupid enough to declare they are already here?
Thats not immortality, justs just living in a sterile enviroment. Immortality by its very definiteion means living indefinitely, which frankly is full of contradictions.
Life can not exist without death. Things need to die so that other living things can extract nutirents from them, not to mention cell death is needed during various stages of development for a fetus. Take death out of the eqasion and your world is ****ed up beyond measure.
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Eran Laude
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.08.01 19:38:00 -
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I for one welcome our new immortal masters!
But yes the potential for technology in this century is incredible. This century will either make or break humanity as a species TBH.
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Kirjava
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.08.01 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Mei
Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: Jacob Mei
The day the first immortal is born, manufactored or what have you will be the darkest day in human history. If you can not kill a being, what is to stop it from becoming the most sadistic, tyrannic, evil human ever to walk on the earth? If everyone became immortal, well, you think we have population problems now? Wait till the death rate goes to near 0 with the birth rate being as high as it is today.
Well, guess which group of people will be able to afford immortality first? We would not be true immortals, just postmortal.
By that I mean we would be immune to ageing and disease/illness, anything else likely fair game.
Given what you just said, would immortals be stupid enough to declare they are already here?
Thats not immortality, justs just living in a sterile enviroment. Immortality by its very definiteion means living indefinitely, which frankly is full of contradictions.
Life can not exist without death. Things need to die so that other living things can extract nutirents from them, not to mention cell death is needed during various stages of development for a fetus. Take death out of the eqasion and your world is ****ed up beyond measure.
No, what will be the approach to immortality is implants. Machines can work indefinitely if properly maintained and new organs can be grown when needed. Stem Cell research (this is controversial in the US I believe) will let a new liver be grown and stitched on when needed. Your blind? have a new pair of eyes or surgical implant to restore the optical nerves.
Humans are just incredibly complex machines at the end of the day, and machines can work indefinitly if maintained properly. Taking death out of the equation would just make us adapt, discriminate with extreme prejudice against the incompetent and let them die so we may harvest the worth from their weeding out from the population.
That or just move to space and recycle, we have a whole bloody solar system for gods sake 
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Sothis Antares
PBA Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.01 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava
That or just move to space and recycle, we have a whole bloody solar system for gods sake
sadly half of it consists of gas planets (while the moons might be an option) and merkur and venus are too close to the sun :(
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.08.01 19:54:00 -
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No, what will be the approach to immortality is implants. Machines can work indefinitely if properly maintained and new organs can be grown when needed. Stem Cell research (this is controversial in the US I believe) will let a new liver be grown and stitched on when needed. Your blind? have a new pair of eyes or surgical implant to restore the optical nerves.
Humans are just incredibly complex machines at the end of the day, and machines can work indefinitly if maintained properly. Taking death out of the equation would just make us adapt, discriminate with extreme prejudice against the incompetent and let them die so we may harvest the worth from their weeding out from the population.
That or just move to space and recycle, we have a whole bloody solar system for gods sake
Ah I thought you were goin on about what I call "highlander" immortality. I can see your point in regards to implants and custom grown organs atleast extending the life of a human to that of centuries, though I suspect that eventually the cells that make up the brain would ultimately kick the bucket after a certain point, and unless science can find a way to reproduce the complex pathways that make up memories, personality and thought patterns there will always be some sort of "hard wired" mortality.
Also, I think your refering the stem cell research and cloning of a whole body, not just regular cell research.
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus
Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.08.01 20:01:00 -
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It would kick ASS to be a Wraith.
Originally by: Amoxin
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.01 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Atomos Darksun
It would kick ASS to be a Wraith.
Yeah but you can still be killed with rather primitive weapons and you must feed.
However a human form replicator just needs energy in any of its forms and thats it, it cant be harmed by anything short of a nuclear weapon(or those special weapons) and if you only have sunlight thats enough to sustain you.
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Kirjava
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.08.01 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sothis Antares
Originally by: Kirjava
That or just move to space and recycle, we have a whole bloody solar system for gods sake
sadly half of it consists of gas planets (while the moons might be an option) and merkur and venus are too close to the sun :(
Point taken but those Gas giants have lots of rocks in orbit of them, I point to the Trojan asteroids of Jupiter and the moons of said gas giants as example.
We need not live on these places, just strip mine them and assemble habitats in Earth/Moon orbit. As said that are gas giants out there, no lack of reaction mass out there for fusion power.
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus
Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.08.01 20:32:00 -
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Unless we develop an effective way to counter Jupiter's radiation, we won't be able to colonize the moons - but Saturn's are still an option. As well as our own moon and Mars.
Soon it will turn from national pride to planetary pride
Originally by: Amoxin
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Sothis Antares
PBA Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.01 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Atomos Darksun
Soon it will turn from national pride to planetary pride
mars > moon
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.01 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Sothis Antares
Originally by: Atomos Darksun
Soon it will turn from national pride to planetary pride
mars > moon
Venus can kick saturns ass!
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7shining7one7
Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage
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Posted - 2008.08.01 21:47:00 -
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 01/08/2008 21:48:03
well no offense but the comments in this thread display marvelously why this road was closed untill further notice, and for obvious reasons and the death enzyme introduced into our genetic coding due to our past mistakes which were many and severe, due to partially being tricked by.. some with their own motives, leaving us dereft of our innocence and capable of extreme evil aswell as incredible goodness, but too unaware of what the wise choice was, to be good for us.
no, you will live with lifespans to an approximate maximum of 120 years, same as you have done for many millenia, and then your body will die and fade away to dust, it is best that way till we learn, and you can attempt to tamper but all it will create is monsters, and some might be vile and some might be _cold as the grave_ with no spark in their eyes or in their actions or in their touch.
so we turn to science, the irony, oh science the "holy grail" that knows nothing except itself to try and "fix" what is not broken, to seek a shortcut to learning what must be learned in order to be allowed to proceed..
nah the key to immortality or rather longevity, of the body? that is in the path to the soul, immortality in general, you allways had and allways will have it.
we will have it when we have learned, no sooner and no later, anything else will not be allowed, do not be ignorant of the universe, do not think that your petty thoughts of your own unholy empires to rule forever will be allowed.. that must be the epitomy of foolishness itself, for there are others that have walked that path and they will be dealt with soon enough. because the universe gave you life and the universe can take it away again, there is free will and then there is the illusion that some have, thinking they can overcome and destroy themselves, sitting on the throne of the most high, there is only one who sits there, there is only one that can sit there, the one that is all.
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Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments
EVESpace
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Posted - 2008.08.01 22:13:00 -
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I agree with the man above.
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