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Jade Kirala
Paladin Imperium
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Posted - 2008.08.03 16:00:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Kirala on 03/08/2008 16:01:07
Anyone have a Jovian timeline. When their first, 2nd and current empires grew, flourished and fell etc?
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Myxx
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.08.06 00:55:00 -
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Edited by: Myxx on 06/08/2008 01:01:05
http://www.eve-online.com/races/jove.asp http://www.eve-online.com/races/wetgrave/?pp=background,stories http://www.eve-online.com/races/amarr_timeline.asp http://www.eve-online.com/background/eggers/ theres just a tiny bit of information in that, not entirely sure how fleshed out it is for your needs.
edit: supposedly, the second empire lasted for nine millenia, assuming thats nine million years. that puts them at at least that old. edit 2: from that stuff, its difficult to put together a timeline, but its possible to figure a rough one from reading it all. ----
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Bruja Ry
Caldari Copperhead Arsenal
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Posted - 2008.08.06 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Myxx supposedly, the second empire lasted for nine millenia, assuming thats nine million years.
9 Millenia = 9000 years. so not as old as you said, but still hard to figure out how long the 1st empire lasted. or when the 3rd empire started. |
Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.06 15:38:00 -
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We have no info on the first Jovian Empire and very little on the second empire.
Their third empire is supposed to have been created about 500years ago by those Jovians who fled the utopia constellation, because of the effects of the jovian disease.
From what I think, the first Jovian Empire was likely founded a while after the collapse of the EVE gate. The Jovian colonies in Utopia where farther away from the EVE gate then any other and for this reason perhaps more independent then any other.
They may have even been able to keep the stargates close to their homeworlds intact. The Jovians were also not the only ones who survived the collapse of the gate. The Yan-Yung, Sleeper, Talocan and the Enheduanni also survived during this era, but all of them in pockets of space that were isolated from each other, because of the breakdown of the stargate network.
Millenia later the first Jovian Empire collapsed out of unknown reasons. Talocans and others dissapeared, or maybe they became the Enheduanni while the Jovians of the second empire took even more drastic steps of genetic modifications, to advance their science.
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.08.10 09:26:00 -
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I don't think the Enheduanni survived, I believe the 4 race's who survived merged into the Enheduanni between 1000 to 2000 years ago. ____ Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation (www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
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Troyd23
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Posted - 2008.08.24 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey I don't think the Enheduanni survived, I believe the 4 race's who survived merged into the Enheduanni between 1000 to 2000 years ago.
never heard of this race, mind linking its reference?
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.24 06:34:00 -
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Originally by: Troyd23
Originally by: Pottsey I don't think the Enheduanni survived, I believe the 4 race's who survived merged into the Enheduanni between 1000 to 2000 years ago.
never heard of this race, mind linking its reference?
Theodicy
The Short Story is the only reference about them.
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Daelin Blackleaf
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.08.29 04:38:00 -
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In those 9000 years it seems the Jove have watched the cycles of human civilization repeat themselves over and again.
From Theodicy we have:
"We cannot sit idly while they selfishly interfere with the history that is yours to decide, no matter how destructive, or how often you wish to repeat it.ö
And in-game we have the existence of past empires in archaeology the Talocan, Yan Jung, Sleeprs and Takmahl.
The history of the Jove therefore would likely be an immense timeline detailing their interactions with all the cycles of empires that rose and fell before us. The Jovians themselves have risen and fallen over the years, but managed to retain some of their past, had they retained all of it and been left untroubled there would be no second or third Jovian Empires and their power would be far greater than it is now.
It can be extrapolated then that the Factions we are part of either took longer than those of the last batch of empires and their predecessors to rediscover civilization, were seeded by the Jovians or agents unknown, or are the survivors of whatever holocaust took out the previous generation of civilizations.
An interesting side-note would be the Sefrim who may have been either Jovians or members of another culture that was alive at the time and may still survive and sought to influence the Amarrians. Interestingly this created an Empire that proved unpredictable to the Enheduanni thwarting their plans.
In short the history of the Jove most likely encompases the history of human civilization within the cluster, if it doesn't then there were empires before even the Jovians repeating this endless cycle of destruction.
All in all: Deep stuffs.
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Daelin Blackleaf
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.08.29 04:54:00 -
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Of topic but related: Talocan is very similar to the word Tlalocan which references both ancient lost civilizations and, as the name for one of the Aztec heavens, their ability regarding other dimensions.
If anyone else can find related terms to go with the Yan Jung or Takmahl I'd be most appreciative. The only references I can find are Steven Kings "Tak" from Desperation and The Regulators meaning "big" and/or "powerful" and mal which is a prefix generally meaning bad which would make them the Big Bad. However Takmal is also a name, and therefore likely has another meaning.
Any help here would be awesomesauce.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.29 06:22:00 -
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No idea on the Yan Yung but Takmahl as a word seems to be close enough to the Taj Mahal.
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