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Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2012.03.20 16:52:00 -
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Concord has response times based on sec status of the system.
Sec / Response time * 1.0 6 seconds 0.9 7 seconds 0.8 7 seconds 0.7 8 seconds 0.6 10 seconds 0.5 13 seconds
You can add 6 seconds to the response time by drawing concord to another belt or area in the system. Usually in mining systems there are cans or wrecks. If you shoot one with a noob ship you will take a very small sec status hit (.8048% in a .5). If you cant find a can you can have a "neutral alt" drop one. Or you can just shoot at a buddy. Make sure you don't do it on a gate or station as the guns can pop you before concord gets there. Once Concord arrives at the false alarm, you will have an additional 6 seconds to do your dirty work. Or, if you are a bad guy miner, you will have up to 19 seconds to defend yourself.
I prefer the catalyst to the thrasher, both are great. The idea is to find your rate of fire. Volley/dps = ROF.
[Catalyst, Gank Catalyst] Magnetic Field Stabilizer I Magnetic Field Stabilizer I Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
Warp Scrambler I Sensor Booster I
Light Ion Blaster I Light Ion Blaster I Light Ion Blaster I Light Ion Blaster I Light Ion Blaster I Light Ion Blaster I Light Ion Blaster I Light Ion Blaster I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
335 DPS/599 volley overheated 1.8 sec ROF
Cheap and effeective. Some people prefer T2 weapons and stabs, you can get 700 dps if you prefer to solo. You should always overheat. Any dessie besides the cormorant is a good choice. Here is the magik formula;
(Concord reponse time/ROF) x volley damage = total damage
For example in a .5 system: ((13+6)/1.8) x 599 = 5990 total damage. Add 3 seconds for each ganker after the first for concord to switch targets.
Here is a tanked mackinaw from battleclinic. http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/39495-Mackinaw-Cargo-and-EHP-CHEAP.html 13128 EHP 57 HP/s tank 12899.3 m3 cargo
245/247.5 CPU 43.8/43.8 Powergrid 68% capacitor stability Approximate price of Modules? 26 mil.**
Look at that sexy thermal hole. :wink
This will be easily taken down by 2 t1 fitted catalysts with some hobgoblin I's.
How do I find out their tank?
I use a cloaky alt. You can get them coming in and out of the station without them ever knowing you scanned them. You don't have to be cloaky, but thats how I prefer to find my warp in point. The only requirement is a ship scanner, but a passive targeter and ship scanner are very inconspicuous. You can run their fits through EFT once you know what they have equiped, and you can probaly just look and find the hole.
The basic idea is that you You call concord to another location . Get a warp in point bookmarked, or a cloaked alt. Or an uncloaked alt in an industry or mining ship. If you can, make your rally point for the dessies off of dscan of the blet. When you mark the target zoom out and pick a rally point that does not have asteroids in the path. When you are ready to kill warp in. Cloakies will decloak at 2k, so have your velocity tab open to make sure they are not spooling before you start the warp to. if your dessies are pre aligned they shouldnt have enough time to get away when you decloak on them. If you are not solo you should be on comms and call the spike. Everybody presses enter to the concord warning at the same time.
Protip: Ratting vanguard incursion belts in a triangle increases sec status quickly without having to mess with low/null.
* CoUrtesy of Goonwiki ** Tears as they drop: Priceless
04:25:37 Notify Cipher Jones, criminals are not welcome here. Leave now or be destroyed. |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.20 17:16:00 -
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Thanks Cipher Jones. Someone give this man a medal for a logical post on how to gank a hulk....now if the self destruct whiners could look at it the same way you can stop losing cap ships that keep making you rage because SD is ment to make the other guy rage at his futility of killing you.
Its as simple as ganking a hulk, you got 2 minutes instead of 15, modify the amount damage greatly with the thought as if the carrier was a hulk and there you go. Its obvious why they fail...pathetic damage. Derp! Yeah, its the user crying about a self destruct yet they just don't understand why....not enough to crack the tank and the guy self destructing knows that fact, so you should know the fact you don't have enough and increase it to break a tank in 119 seconds (not much different, CONCORD showing up on the scene in 15 seconds or a ship going boom to SD 120 seconds since it is a deadline and you need to beat it). |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.20 17:25:00 -
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cipher jones, alone and unloved after his campaign against the evil goonies, resorts to stealing their techniques to become loved |
Eri Em
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Posted - 2012.03.20 17:35:00 -
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Dude did you just wake up after winter's slumber? |
Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2012.03.20 17:46:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:cipher jones, alone and unloved after his campaign against the evil goonies, resorts to stealing their techniques to become loved
I have no campaign against the goons.Just bad poasterz. I have never even seen one in space. You mistake my stance on truly harassing people for a hatred of ganking. Ganking the same person over and over for nothing but "lulz" is something I do not endorse.
I remember you, you are the verbal bj guy. When you report back to your masters be sure to report my thanks. Thanks.
Oh, I also stole some of my techniques from Silent Alliance. Those guys were the nicest "pirates" I ever met.
04:25:37 Notify Cipher Jones, criminals are not welcome here. Leave now or be destroyed. |
Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2012.03.20 17:50:00 -
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Double post
04:25:37 Notify Cipher Jones, criminals are not welcome here. Leave now or be destroyed. |
Kessiaan
Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings
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Posted - 2012.03.20 17:54:00 -
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I prefer this fit:
[Catalyst, Solo Gank] 7x Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S 1x Light Ion Blaster II, Void S J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler 3x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 1x Small Algid Hybrid Administrations Unit 1x Hobgoblin II
A bit expensive but it can solo any Hulk on 0.6 and down that doesn't have a damage control fit (which is most of them), you get half the modules back, and with the hulk loot (and especially the T2 armor plates) come out a bit ahead in ISK in the long run.
Had the advantage that an Orca alt can carry like 30 of them (5 assembled in the maint. bay, rest in the holds). Miners never watch their d-scanners for ship rather obviously named "Suicide Cat" and it's hardly worth anyone's time to probe out a catalyst in a crowded highsec system, so I have my Orca alt kick one out in a safespot near the belt and I sit next to it in my pod, alt docks up, gets a covops out of the ship maint. bay and gets a warp-in on the target. Board, warp, pewpew, scoop & salvage on my alt while I warp my pod out.
Haven't done it in a few weeks now though, trained up a 2nd cyno alt so I don't have to spend a day in empire twiddling my thumbs whenever I need to run my alt's Anshar to Jita and back. My killboard - http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Kessiaan |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.20 18:08:00 -
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Don LaFontaine (narrator): On this episode of New Eden's Most Wanted, a ganker and his daring escape brought to you by your host, John Walsh.
John Walsh (host): Thank you, Don. Here we can see a footage of what appears to be a fleet of Thrashers warping away from a belt after ganking an innocent miner. Concord is later seen warping out to chase after the crooks as they try to elude capture by warping from safe spot to safe spot. Some even dare to gank more miners while being chased by the law but they are quickly caught and their ships destroyed. As for the rest, we can see that the remaining gankers continue to elude Concord but eventually they pull over and surrender as they see that the law cannot be avoided.
Some are seen ejecting out in their pods trying to escape, but Concord points them and pulls them in like fish caught in a hook. Here we have more footage of the perpetrators being pulled out of their pods as they continue to resist arrest.
[shaky footage] Ganker: POLICE BRUTALITY! POLICE BRUTA.. **WHACK!!!!** Officer: Shut up! [footage cuts off]
John Walsh: Here, we can say that justice has been served.
Don: On the next episode, CSM candidates. See which ones are corrupt next week on New Eden's Most Wanted. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2012.03.20 19:03:00 -
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what do you gank the gankers with then? |
Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2012.03.20 19:05:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:what do you gank the gankers with then?
clearly with one more sebo than them.
04:25:37 Notify Cipher Jones, criminals are not welcome here. Leave now or be destroyed. |
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Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.03.20 19:08:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:what do you gank the gankers with then?
Destroyers. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Kessiaan
Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings
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Posted - 2012.03.20 19:17:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:what do you gank the gankers with then?
A person in my alliance came up with an idea to undock a ship full of shinies, redock, strip the fitting, then warp to a completed mission. My killboard - http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Kessiaan |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.20 19:28:00 -
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Cipher Jones: Brave enough to steal from our wiki but not actually brave enough to gank miners himself. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2012.03.20 19:30:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Cipher Jones: Brave enough to steal from our wiki but not actually brave enough to gank miners himself.
Clearly.
04:25:37 Notify Cipher Jones, criminals are not welcome here. Leave now or be destroyed. |
Theminster
The Riot Formation Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2012.03.21 02:43:00 -
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Epic |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.21 03:26:00 -
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Is this "the spawn concord before you Gank for more time" trick?
Will two destroyers take down the usual things that one can't gank? Both of them have to spawn Concord elsewhere? Seems pretty interesting. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
ChuckNorris InSpace
SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353
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Posted - 2012.03.21 05:19:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:cipher jones, alone and unloved after his campaign against the evil goonies, resorts to stealing their techniques to become loved
you'll be claiming your dirty little guild has a monopoly on immorality next no doubt ..
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2012.03.21 06:15:00 -
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Not so pro tip:
WIth good rigging and modules you can put a heavy missile launcher in the bay slot of a Thrasher.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.21 07:05:00 -
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ChuckNorris InSpace wrote:Weaselior wrote:cipher jones, alone and unloved after his campaign against the evil goonies, resorts to stealing their techniques to become loved you'll be claiming your dirty little guild has a monopoly on immorality next no doubt .. Would the Mittani approve of ganking tactics becoming part of the generally held knowledge of highseccers?
Didn't people already know about catalyst ganks and prespawning Concord?
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2012.03.21 07:09:00 -
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Wasnt it misproven that spawning concord doesnt work?
memory getting foggy these days.
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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2012.03.21 07:36:00 -
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Is this a ganking thread? Oh I love a good ganking thread. |
ChuckNorris InSpace
SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353
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Posted - 2012.03.21 07:40:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Is this a ganking thread? Oh I love a good ganking thread.
I usually gank once a day, sometimes twice. just lately more frequently than ever before. always with lubricant (beer) and never with the curtains open. |
FluffyDice
StarFckers Inc. The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.21 07:47:00 -
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This is an excellent overview on how to gank. You missed an important part though. You need to have an awesome backing track
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5BT-eIy4oE |
Raiz Nhell
DEEP CORPS
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Posted - 2012.03.21 09:40:00 -
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I approve of ganking, but I'm always on the receiving end... Not more than 20mins ago I was ganked... But I was not like the 90% of highsec miners...
I had my invul fields turned on...
Needless to say I returned to the computer to find a Thrasher wreak (I didn't note the name) that I quickly looted and buggered off...
It's always said, mostly by the gankers, TANK YOUR HULK... You can tank the gank, the gank can't tank CONCORD :)
I'm so carebear my Pod bleeds rainbow...
Beers + nullsec + dodgy fit = Loss mail |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.03.21 09:47:00 -
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I see you are trying to copy Bat Country |
Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.03.21 14:01:00 -
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Isnt delaying concords responce considered an exploit? Could of sworn i read that somewhere. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
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Posted - 2012.03.21 14:40:00 -
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Came for new news and excitement. Left bored.................. OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |
Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.03.21 18:23:00 -
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Nirnias Stirrum wrote:Isnt delaying concords responce considered an exploit? Could of sworn i read that somewhere.
As long as you take the loss, you haven't exploited CONCORD. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
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Posted - 2012.03.21 18:51:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Nirnias Stirrum wrote:Isnt delaying concords responce considered an exploit? Could of sworn i read that somewhere. As long as you take the loss, you haven't exploited CONCORD. And afaik, only the use of throw away alts is the exploit. |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.21 18:59:00 -
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Nirnias Stirrum wrote:Isnt delaying concords responce considered an exploit? Could of sworn i read that somewhere.
Think of it like this. Imagine Concord as a fleet of highway patrolmen that spot you sideswiping a car on the road and you drive off. Even though they didn't catch you in the first 13 seconds, they will catch you when you A) run out of gas or B) you have nowhere else to go or C) you messed up on your attempt to escape. Whichever way, you will suffer a loss eventually especially when you are flagged as KOS (kill on sight) to everyone in the system. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |
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