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Xyleya
moon7empler Ev0ke
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Posted - 2008.08.03 20:18:00 -
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Why's there no Heavy Assault FoF Missiles in the game? .
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.08.03 20:24:00 -
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I.e Heavy unguided fire and forget missiles?
For the same reason why there aren't F.O.F. rockets, or Torpedoes. They are unguided missiles.
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Xyleya
moon7empler Ev0ke
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Posted - 2008.08.03 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul I.e Heavy unguided fire and forget missiles?
For the same reason why there aren't F.O.F. rockets, or Torpedoes. They are unguided missiles.
So?
FoF's are also unguided, as I'm not able to choose the target they're firing at. .
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Elaine Celeste
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Posted - 2008.08.03 20:48:00 -
[4]
The short-range high damage variations (rockets, assault missiles and torpedoes) simply don't have FoF missiles. Don't see what the big deal is...
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Jim Raynor
Caldari Shinra
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:06:00 -
[5]
rockets/assault missiles/torpedoes are unguided missiles lights/heavys/cruise are guided missiles
unguided missiles do not get a FOF variation, guided missiles do
there is no issue
also, fof are quite useless. ------ I'll make a sig later. |

Xyleya
moon7empler Ev0ke
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: Elaine Celeste The short-range high damage variations (rockets, assault missiles and torpedoes) simply don't have FoF missiles. Don't see what the big deal is...
Jammers and only having 15m¦ Dronebay.
The DPS of a Sacrilege is not really impressive compared with the other shortrange HACs, and is even outdamaged by a Cerberus using standard Heavy Missiles. So to make up for it, it would be nice of having the ability to still do some damage when jammed.
Zealot has zero Dronebay aswell, doing zero damage while jammed.
A Cerberus can load FoFs, a Deimos has 5x Med T2 Drones, an Ishtar loosing no damage at all, and even a Vaga can load FoFs into it's Heavy Missile Launcher + having 5x Light T2 Drones.
Amarr-HACs get the shaft here of beeing the only races HACs you can completely shut off with a jammer. Even worse for the Zealot as TD's reduce your damage dramatically aswell.
So I'm asking for Heavy Assault FoFs, that would make the Sacrilege alittle bit more competitive in that regard. .
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Jim Raynor
Caldari Shinra
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Xyleya
Originally by: Elaine Celeste The short-range high damage variations (rockets, assault missiles and torpedoes) simply don't have FoF missiles. Don't see what the big deal is...
Jammers and only having 15m¦ Dronebay.
The DPS of a Sacrilege is not really impressive compared with the other shortrange HACs, and is even outdamaged by a Cerberus using standard Heavy Missiles. So to make up for it, it would be nice of having the ability to still do some damage when jammed.
Zealot has zero Dronebay aswell, doing zero damage while jammed.
A Cerberus can load FoFs, a Deimos has 5x Med T2 Drones, an Ishtar loosing no damage at all, and even a Vaga can load FoFs into it's Heavy Missile Launcher + having 5x Light T2 Drones.
Amarr-HACs get the shaft here of beeing the only races HACs you can completely shut off with a jammer. Even worse for the Zealot as TD's reduce your damage dramatically aswell.
So I'm asking for Heavy Assault FoFs, that would make the Sacrilege alittle bit more competitive in that regard.
FoF of unguided missiles have never nor should ever exist.
The Sacrilege is already quite uber, though I suppose in the greater scheme of things it's an overpriced Drake with higher velocity/agility.
Nice attempt at a stealth Sac buff though, seriously.... Sacrilege is freaking good how it is... ------ I'll make a sig later. |

Elaine Celeste
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Xyleya
Originally by: Elaine Celeste The short-range high damage variations (rockets, assault missiles and torpedoes) simply don't have FoF missiles. Don't see what the big deal is...
Jammers and only having 15m¦ Dronebay.
The DPS of a Sacrilege is not really impressive compared with the other shortrange HACs, and is even outdamaged by a Cerberus using standard Heavy Missiles. So to make up for it, it would be nice of having the ability to still do some damage when jammed.
Zealot has zero Dronebay aswell, doing zero damage while jammed.
A Cerberus can load FoFs, a Deimos has 5x Med T2 Drones, an Ishtar loosing no damage at all, and even a Vaga can load FoFs into it's Heavy Missile Launcher + having 5x Light T2 Drones.
Amarr-HACs get the shaft here of beeing the only races HACs you can completely shut off with a jammer. Even worse for the Zealot as TD's reduce your damage dramatically aswell.
So I'm asking for Heavy Assault FoFs, that would make the Sacrilege alittle bit more competitive in that regard.
No clue what you're getting at here.
DPS of a Sacrilege is not impressive? In a pve fit it can do 489 with max skills, 3 BCS and no rigs, while still keeping a great tank. A Cerberus will do 344 with max skills, 3 BCS and no rigs, and its tank is worse.
That's just how high-damage rockets, assault missiles and torpedoes work. You sacrifice range and FOF missiles for far more damage. Can't always have the best of both worlds.
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Kazuma Saruwatari
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:20:00 -
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wait wait wait...
You still want more out of an already-uber ship class?? -
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Elaine Celeste
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:23:00 -
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Edited by: Elaine Celeste on 03/08/2008 21:25:29
Originally by: Jim Raynor
Originally by: Xyleya
Originally by: Elaine Celeste The short-range high damage variations (rockets, assault missiles and torpedoes) simply don't have FoF missiles. Don't see what the big deal is...
Jammers and only having 15m¦ Dronebay.
The DPS of a Sacrilege is not really impressive compared with the other shortrange HACs, and is even outdamaged by a Cerberus using standard Heavy Missiles. So to make up for it, it would be nice of having the ability to still do some damage when jammed.
Zealot has zero Dronebay aswell, doing zero damage while jammed.
A Cerberus can load FoFs, a Deimos has 5x Med T2 Drones, an Ishtar loosing no damage at all, and even a Vaga can load FoFs into it's Heavy Missile Launcher + having 5x Light T2 Drones.
Amarr-HACs get the shaft here of beeing the only races HACs you can completely shut off with a jammer. Even worse for the Zealot as TD's reduce your damage dramatically aswell.
So I'm asking for Heavy Assault FoFs, that would make the Sacrilege alittle bit more competitive in that regard.
FoF of unguided missiles have never nor should ever exist.
The Sacrilege is already quite uber, though I suppose in the greater scheme of things it's an overpriced Drake with higher velocity/agility.
Nice attempt at a stealth Sac buff though, seriously.... Sacrilege is freaking good how it is...
Not even. It does far more dps than a drake, although of course the drake has more EHP. Give up a bit of defence and put in 2 BCS and you still only reach 321dps with max skills.
And PS to the OP: I don't really care whether unguided missiles get FoF missiles, tbh. Sure, they'd be useful at times, and not terribly overpowering, I suppose. I'm merely presenting what I'd guess is CCP's reasoning for not giving unguided missiles FoF varieties.
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Jim Raynor
Caldari Shinra
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:24:00 -
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Thread Translation: Make my already high speed and agile, uber gank, uber tank ship better CCP pls. I can't rock and roll all over peoples faces if I get jammed, OH NOES. ------ I'll make a sig later. |

Jim Raynor
Caldari Shinra
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Elaine Celeste
Originally by: Jim Raynor
Originally by: Xyleya
Originally by: Elaine Celeste The short-range high damage variations (rockets, assault missiles and torpedoes) simply don't have FoF missiles. Don't see what the big deal is...
Jammers and only having 15m¦ Dronebay.
The DPS of a Sacrilege is not really impressive compared with the other shortrange HACs, and is even outdamaged by a Cerberus using standard Heavy Missiles. So to make up for it, it would be nice of having the ability to still do some damage when jammed.
Zealot has zero Dronebay aswell, doing zero damage while jammed.
A Cerberus can load FoFs, a Deimos has 5x Med T2 Drones, an Ishtar loosing no damage at all, and even a Vaga can load FoFs into it's Heavy Missile Launcher + having 5x Light T2 Drones.
Amarr-HACs get the shaft here of beeing the only races HACs you can completely shut off with a jammer. Even worse for the Zealot as TD's reduce your damage dramatically aswell.
So I'm asking for Heavy Assault FoFs, that would make the Sacrilege alittle bit more competitive in that regard.
FoF of unguided missiles have never nor should ever exist.
The Sacrilege is already quite uber, though I suppose in the greater scheme of things it's an overpriced Drake with higher velocity/agility.
Nice attempt at a stealth Sac buff though, seriously.... Sacrilege is freaking good how it is...
Not even. It does far more dps than a drake, although of course the drake has more EHP. Give up a bit of defence and put in 2 BCS and you still only reach 321dps with max skills.
My Drake lays down over 600 DPS with HAM and drones and full tackle with a nice HP buffer tank, hows yours? ------ I'll make a sig later. |

Xyleya
moon7empler Ev0ke
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:32:00 -
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Edited by: Xyleya on 03/08/2008 21:33:37 I don't see the Sacrilege OP tbh.
Amarr has the weakest Sensor-Strength and I get jammed about 50% of the time I fight someone that has 5x ECM 600 onboard.
Your tank and DPS mean nothing, if you're jammed that often.
And a Sacrilege using 3x BCU II in PvP has no tank at all to tank a Zealot, Deimos or Ishtar.
And try the Sacrilege on SiSi atm, without going 3+ km/sec, where you've to fit it for heavy tanking: 2x MAR II, DCU, Thermic Membrane II, EANM II to stand a chance and make up for your low DPS, which is now reduced to somewhere around 300-350ish including 3x Hobgoblin II. .
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Jim Raynor
Caldari Shinra
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Xyleya Edited by: Xyleya on 03/08/2008 21:33:37 I don't see the Sacrilege OP tbh.
Amarr has the weakest Sensor-Strength and I get jammed about 50% of the time I fight someone that has 5x ECM 600 onboard.
Your tank and DPS mean nothing, if you're jammed that often.
And a Sacrilege using 3x BCU II in PvP has no tank at all to tank a Zealot, Deimos or Ishtar.
And try the Sacrilege on SiSi atm, without going 3+ km/sec, where you've to fit it for heavy tanking: 2x MAR II, DCU, Thermic Membrane II, EANM II to stand a chance and make up for your low DPS, which is now reduced to somewhere around 300-350ish including 3x Hobgoblin II.
You're wrong. And all HAC got slowed down tons, so please keep playing your little violin as we all got nerfed.
Sacrilege is fine, it has DPS, it has TANKING, it has CAPACITOR more other HAC would be envious of. It's also insanely easy to fit and has tons of grid.
Yes your little pwnmobile gets jammed its useless.. just like every other ship that gets jammed. Sorry, you can't be a ROCK STAR and keep on pwning when you get jammed, get over it. ------ I'll make a sig later. |

Elaine Celeste
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Raynor
Originally by: Elaine Celeste
Originally by: Jim Raynor
Originally by: Xyleya
Originally by: Elaine Celeste The short-range high damage variations (rockets, assault missiles and torpedoes) simply don't have FoF missiles. Don't see what the big deal is...
Jammers and only having 15m¦ Dronebay.
The DPS of a Sacrilege is not really impressive compared with the other shortrange HACs, and is even outdamaged by a Cerberus using standard Heavy Missiles. So to make up for it, it would be nice of having the ability to still do some damage when jammed.
Zealot has zero Dronebay aswell, doing zero damage while jammed.
A Cerberus can load FoFs, a Deimos has 5x Med T2 Drones, an Ishtar loosing no damage at all, and even a Vaga can load FoFs into it's Heavy Missile Launcher + having 5x Light T2 Drones.
Amarr-HACs get the shaft here of beeing the only races HACs you can completely shut off with a jammer. Even worse for the Zealot as TD's reduce your damage dramatically aswell.
So I'm asking for Heavy Assault FoFs, that would make the Sacrilege alittle bit more competitive in that regard.
FoF of unguided missiles have never nor should ever exist.
The Sacrilege is already quite uber, though I suppose in the greater scheme of things it's an overpriced Drake with higher velocity/agility.
Nice attempt at a stealth Sac buff though, seriously.... Sacrilege is freaking good how it is...
Not even. It does far more dps than a drake, although of course the drake has more EHP. Give up a bit of defence and put in 2 BCS and you still only reach 321dps with max skills.
My Drake lays down over 600 DPS with HAM and drones and full tackle with a nice HP buffer tank, hows yours?
Oops, forgot drones. 420 with drones, and using HAM's gets it to 500 with 2 BCS, but those limit fitting options a fair bit. And I'm using normal ammo, not overheated, etc...
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Elaine Celeste
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Xyleya Edited by: Xyleya on 03/08/2008 21:33:37 I don't see the Sacrilege OP tbh.
Amarr has the weakest Sensor-Strength and I get jammed about 50% of the time I fight someone that has 5x ECM 600 onboard.
Your tank and DPS mean nothing, if you're jammed that often.
And a Sacrilege using 3x BCU II in PvP has no tank at all to tank a Zealot, Deimos or Ishtar.
And try the Sacrilege on SiSi atm, without going 3+ km/sec, where you've to fit it for heavy tanking: 2x MAR II, DCU, Thermic Membrane II, EANM II to stand a chance and make up for your low DPS, which is now reduced to somewhere around 300-350ish including 3x Hobgoblin II.
Pretty much all ships are vulnerable to jamming... nothing you can really do about it unless they nerf it too.
And I'm talking about TQ atm, not SiSi. That's a whole different story right now.
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Jim Raynor
Caldari Shinra
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Elaine Celeste
Originally by: Jim Raynor
Originally by: Elaine Celeste
Originally by: Jim Raynor
Originally by: Xyleya
Originally by: Elaine Celeste The short-range high damage variations (rockets, assault missiles and torpedoes) simply don't have FoF missiles. Don't see what the big deal is...
Jammers and only having 15m¦ Dronebay.
The DPS of a Sacrilege is not really impressive compared with the other shortrange HACs, and is even outdamaged by a Cerberus using standard Heavy Missiles. So to make up for it, it would be nice of having the ability to still do some damage when jammed.
Zealot has zero Dronebay aswell, doing zero damage while jammed.
A Cerberus can load FoFs, a Deimos has 5x Med T2 Drones, an Ishtar loosing no damage at all, and even a Vaga can load FoFs into it's Heavy Missile Launcher + having 5x Light T2 Drones.
Amarr-HACs get the shaft here of beeing the only races HACs you can completely shut off with a jammer. Even worse for the Zealot as TD's reduce your damage dramatically aswell.
So I'm asking for Heavy Assault FoFs, that would make the Sacrilege alittle bit more competitive in that regard.
FoF of unguided missiles have never nor should ever exist.
The Sacrilege is already quite uber, though I suppose in the greater scheme of things it's an overpriced Drake with higher velocity/agility.
Nice attempt at a stealth Sac buff though, seriously.... Sacrilege is freaking good how it is...
Not even. It does far more dps than a drake, although of course the drake has more EHP. Give up a bit of defence and put in 2 BCS and you still only reach 321dps with max skills.
My Drake lays down over 600 DPS with HAM and drones and full tackle with a nice HP buffer tank, hows yours?
Oops, forgot drones. 420 with drones, and using HAM's gets it to 500 with 2 BCS, but those limit fitting options a fair bit. And I'm using normal ammo, not overheated, etc...
[Drake, New Setup 1] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Reactor Control Unit II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile [empty high slot]
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Hobgoblin II x5
618dps(710dps overheat) ~1km/s velocity 20k shields, it works nicely.. though it CAN be jammed just like a poor little Sacrilege! :( ------ I'll make a sig later. |

Xyleya
moon7empler Ev0ke
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Raynor
Originally by: Xyleya Edited by: Xyleya on 03/08/2008 21:33:37 I don't see the Sacrilege OP tbh.
Amarr has the weakest Sensor-Strength and I get jammed about 50% of the time I fight someone that has 5x ECM 600 onboard.
Your tank and DPS mean nothing, if you're jammed that often.
And a Sacrilege using 3x BCU II in PvP has no tank at all to tank a Zealot, Deimos or Ishtar.
And try the Sacrilege on SiSi atm, without going 3+ km/sec, where you've to fit it for heavy tanking: 2x MAR II, DCU, Thermic Membrane II, EANM II to stand a chance and make up for your low DPS, which is now reduced to somewhere around 300-350ish including 3x Hobgoblin II.
You're wrong. And all HAC got slowed down tons, so please keep playing your little violin as we all got nerfed.
Sacrilege is fine, it has DPS, it has TANKING, it has CAPACITOR more other HAC would be envious of. It's also insanely easy to fit and has tons of grid.
Yes your little pwnmobile gets jammed its useless.. just like every other ship that gets jammed. Sorry, you can't be a ROCK STAR and keep on pwning when you get jammed, get over it.
Ishtar does nearly twice the damage and the drones are still fighting while jammed. And if fitted for tank, it has little problem tanking that 300DPS from a Sacrilege. Ishtar also has a spare MedSlot for that TD or Multi ECM and all Highslots free to add up damage or fitting a Neut.
Also, besides the Deimos and the Vaga the Sacrilege has less Range then most other HACs. You've to get to around 15km for your HAMs to hit the target, where the drones of a Deimos alone do 150 DPS and the Vaga also very capable of still hitting with it's huge FallOff.
But back to the topic anyways. I don't see any reason, why there should'nt be FoF's for Rocket Launchers, HAML or Siege Launchers. .
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Jim Raynor
Caldari Shinra
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Xyleya
Originally by: Jim Raynor
Originally by: Xyleya Edited by: Xyleya on 03/08/2008 21:33:37 I don't see the Sacrilege OP tbh.
Amarr has the weakest Sensor-Strength and I get jammed about 50% of the time I fight someone that has 5x ECM 600 onboard.
Your tank and DPS mean nothing, if you're jammed that often.
And a Sacrilege using 3x BCU II in PvP has no tank at all to tank a Zealot, Deimos or Ishtar.
And try the Sacrilege on SiSi atm, without going 3+ km/sec, where you've to fit it for heavy tanking: 2x MAR II, DCU, Thermic Membrane II, EANM II to stand a chance and make up for your low DPS, which is now reduced to somewhere around 300-350ish including 3x Hobgoblin II.
You're wrong. And all HAC got slowed down tons, so please keep playing your little violin as we all got nerfed.
Sacrilege is fine, it has DPS, it has TANKING, it has CAPACITOR more other HAC would be envious of. It's also insanely easy to fit and has tons of grid.
Yes your little pwnmobile gets jammed its useless.. just like every other ship that gets jammed. Sorry, you can't be a ROCK STAR and keep on pwning when you get jammed, get over it.
Ishtar does nearly twice the damage and the drones are still fighting while jammed. And if fitted for tank, it has little problem tanking that 300DPS from a Sacrilege. Ishtar also has a spare MedSlot for that TD or Multi ECM and all Highslots free to add up damage or fitting a Neut.
Also, besides the Deimos and the Vaga the Sacrilege has less Range then most other HACs. You've to get to around 15km for your HAMs to hit the target, where the drones of a Deimos alone do 150 DPS and the Vaga also very capable of still hitting with it's huge FallOff.
But back to the topic anyways. I don't see any reason, why there should'nt be FoF's for Rocket Launchers, HAML or Siege Launchers.
ISHTAR JUST LIKE ANY OTHER SHIP NEEDS A TARGET LOCK TO ENGAGE ITS DRONES.
FOF GO ALL OVER THE PLACE RANDOMLY AND DON'T EVEN ATTACK WHAT YOU WANT. ------ I'll make a sig later. |

Elaine Celeste
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:54:00 -
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All ships are vulnerable against jamming. And faction missiles... cheater!
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Jim Raynor
Caldari Shinra
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Elaine Celeste All ships are vulnerable against jamming. And faction missiles... cheater!
Faction missiles are cheap.. why not use them? ------ I'll make a sig later. |

Elaine Celeste
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:58:00 -
[22]
Edited by: Elaine Celeste on 03/08/2008 21:59:00
Originally by: Jim Raynor
Originally by: Elaine Celeste All ships are vulnerable against jamming. And faction missiles... cheater!
Faction missiles are cheap.. why not use them?
Heh I know, I just generally use normal ammo when talking about DPS on the forums, except for crystals, I suppose, or special cases like barrage m on a vagabond, etc.
With CN missiles the Sacrilege does 554 with max skills btw:)
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Andreya
Direct Intent
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Posted - 2008.08.03 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Xyleya Why's there no Heavy Assault FoF Missiles in the game?
so after this nerf... people like you wont get into passive tank drake gangs with remote reps spamming FOFs :P
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Spurty
Caldari Trader's Academy Blue Sky Consortium
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Posted - 2008.08.04 02:22:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Jim Raynor FOF GO ALL OVER THE PLACE RANDOMLY AND DON'T EVEN ATTACK WHAT YOU WANT.
Just like to expand on this. If you are in a gang and one of your gang mates is -5, FOFs will be strangely attracted to his ship if its closer than your target.
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Elaine Celeste
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Posted - 2008.08.04 02:23:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Spurty
Originally by: Jim Raynor FOF GO ALL OVER THE PLACE RANDOMLY AND DON'T EVEN ATTACK WHAT YOU WANT.
Just like to expand on this. If you are in a gang and one of your gang mates is -5, FOFs will be strangely attracted to his ship if its closer than your target.
comedy and confusion ensue shortly followed by apologies and perhaps a dip into your wallet.
Don't they just attack people that attack you?
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Xyleya
moon7empler Ev0ke
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Posted - 2008.08.04 11:12:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Jim Raynor
ISHTAR JUST LIKE ANY OTHER SHIP NEEDS A TARGET LOCK TO ENGAGE ITS DRONES.
FOF GO ALL OVER THE PLACE RANDOMLY AND DON'T EVEN ATTACK WHAT YOU WANT.
Erm... are you serious? 
Drones will engage everyone in your drone control-range who attacks you, even if you can't target them, JFYI! .
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Kepakh
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Posted - 2008.08.04 13:03:00 -
[27]
HAMs(Torpedoes/Rockets) Specifications regarding Heavy Launchers: + higher RoF + higher DPS
Drawback: - reduced range - no FoF missiles - reduced ability to hit fast moving targets
HAMs are heavy guided weapons, meant to damage large size targets, they are not meant to fight ECM support ships. |

Cyberman Mastermind
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Posted - 2008.08.04 13:40:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Xyleya Drones will engage everyone in your drone control-range who attacks you, even if you can't target them, JFYI!
In theory, perhaps. Or perhaps you have to do everything in the right order, but I've often have NPCs attack me while my drones just looked at me and asked for orders. -------------------------------------------------- I'm a rich person. How I know? I can afford to be a miner. |

Jim Raynor
Caldari Shinra
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Posted - 2008.08.04 15:28:00 -
[29]
Edited by: Jim Raynor on 04/08/2008 15:28:12
Originally by: Xyleya
Originally by: Jim Raynor
ISHTAR JUST LIKE ANY OTHER SHIP NEEDS A TARGET LOCK TO ENGAGE ITS DRONES.
FOF GO ALL OVER THE PLACE RANDOMLY AND DON'T EVEN ATTACK WHAT YOU WANT.
Erm... are you serious? 
Drones will engage everyone in your drone control-range who attacks you, even if you can't target them, JFYI!
Not always true. I've gotten jammed plenty of times and my drones just sat there all stupid saying I need a target lock to engage them. ------ I'll make a sig later. |

Xyleya
moon7empler Ev0ke
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Posted - 2008.08.04 16:33:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Jim Raynor Edited by: Jim Raynor on 04/08/2008 15:28:12
Originally by: Xyleya
Originally by: Jim Raynor
ISHTAR JUST LIKE ANY OTHER SHIP NEEDS A TARGET LOCK TO ENGAGE ITS DRONES.
FOF GO ALL OVER THE PLACE RANDOMLY AND DON'T EVEN ATTACK WHAT YOU WANT.
Erm... are you serious? 
Drones will engage everyone in your drone control-range who attacks you, even if you can't target them, JFYI!
Not always true. I've gotten jammed plenty of times and my drones just sat there all stupid saying I need a target lock to engage them.
First: the target has to be in drone-control range. Usually under 50km as noone bothers to train up Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing.
Second: Go to the drone-settings and select: agressive.
Third: If your drones are allready fighting a target, they'll fight it aslong you tell them otherwise, even if you're jammed inbetween.
But I'm still asking, why can't we get FoFs for Torps, HAMs and Rockets? Simply makes no sence, not to have them and just saying "because CCP said so" or "because it's been this way allways" is not an argument.
I wan't FoFs for my Heavy Assault Launchers. .
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