EVE Search - SAVE THE VAGA

Search EVE-Online forums for:

All Channels

Game Development Forum

SAVE THE VAGA

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 3 4 [5] :: one page

Author	Topic
Euriti Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.18 13:25:00 - [121] Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab Originally by: Kalintos Tyl actually nightawk is small ship powner You must be living in a world where small ships can be hit by missiles... Where is this magic land of yours? ;) Originally by: Euriti Your logic says: "Because my stuff is useless yours should be too. Ha-ha." That's pretty immature. Well, you're crying "My stuff is not overpowered anymore. Waaaaaa~". Hey, I got an idea... why don't we first nerf every hac to the same level, _THEN_ boost them all? Sounds much more reasonable, no? Then we can all stand united in our quest to get proper hacs. Do your **ing research moron, especially before sligning out "waaaa adapt" shit. I don't fly hacs, I fly interceptors and I feel so ed about this whole patch, trying to supply warpins on enemy fleets is hard as it is with lag, low fps and 20 people shooting you. Now getting 2k/s cut off my base speed.' Seriously ccp, are you smoking **ing weed?
Uncle Smokey	Posted - 2008.08.18 16:37:00 - [122] Originally by: Euriti Seriously ccp, are you smoking **ing weed? Nah, weed is a psychological drug which makes people think. CCP doesnt think, it listen's to people who are upset not able to solo every ***** ship in the game. Why do people find it so wrong to need a sidekick to catch a target that needs a sidekick to deal competive damage? Both can be used to solo some targets, but not all. boohoo. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. \o/ EVERYBODY SAY HELL YEAH! \o/
Euriti Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.18 16:38:00 - [123] Edited by: Euriti on 18/08/2008 16:38:42 Originally by: Uncle Smokey Originally by: Euriti Seriously ccp, are you smoking **ing weed? Nah, weed is a psychological drug which makes people think. CCP doesnt think, it listen's to people who are upset not able to solo every ***** ship in the game. Why do people find it so wrong to need a sidekick to catch a target that needs a sidekick to deal competive damage? Both can be used to solo some targets, but not all. boohoo. HACs were never solopwnmobiles, stop kidding yourself Neither were ceptors, well maybe crow on something without help, without newts and with a non active/regen tank. This breaks ceptors.
Uncle Smokey	Posted - 2008.08.18 19:37:00 - [124] Originally by: Euriti You got my post completely wrong, man. I might have expressed my point in a bit complicated manner, but you got the deal upside down. I love ceptors especially. I say vagas and stabbers take one more shot to the balls and they become useless in their class. I say this goes for minmatar in general. I say BOOST MINMATAR!
fivedollarbitch	Posted - 2008.08.19 20:25:00 - [125] just as minmatars are hardest to skill they should have some kinda edge, and not be the worst race and the hardest to skill. As it is they are not in advantage, and if patch.... oh lord i dont want even to think how aweful they would be than (ccp can freely erase them from existance)
Gragnor Groove Inc	Posted - 2008.08.20 14:46:00 - [126] Originally by: Jim Hazard Edited by: Jim Hazard on 11/08/2008 16:46:02 Originally by: Kagura Nikon Originally by: Jim Hazard Originally by: Bellum Eternus I fly the Rapier/Huginn/Vaga (and nano Ishtar, nano Zealot, Nano Sac etc.) and I'm not really finding the Min cruisers nerfed. The Minnies cry foul like THEIR ships were nerfed and no one elses were touched. Totally not the case. All the ships are slower, and the Minmatar ships, while slower, have an even wider gap between them and the slower ships. Percentage wise, they're faster than ever when compared to other ships of like class. And the Rapiers? Everyone's web is nerfed. Not just the Rapiers. I'll say it again: in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. That is exactly the point. All the ppl whining about minmatar being disadvantaged now are just ppl who do not look at the whole picture and just cry because they might actually risk something while PvPing. Single sentence for you: Raven more agile than tempest..... Raven sitting at 200km needs like 20-25 seconds till the 1st missile hits. By that time the target in most cases is either dead or warped away. So Boost ravens with cruise missiles they are definetly disadvantaged! And since almost all ships will be slower after the patch it does not matter if you need a little bit longer to warp out as you have more time to do so... This is the sheer ignorance in this thread. Just how will the Minmatar ship hit you? The tempest requires THREE T2 RANGE fitted sensor booster just to LOCK you. Then you so far into fall off and alpha strike has been so deeply nerfed that a well skilled Raven pilot could probably tank a Tempest's 1400 toothpicks. ALL the while you are tanking, you are unleashing missiles from 200km away and you CANNOT miss. Ever. Every shot hits. Up close, please god don't let my Autopest encounter a Torp Raven as I will die in seconds. The sheer unalderated stupidity of even daring to put a minnie Tempest that was less agile than a Raven on the Test server shows that Eve is going to the dogs. All I can say is; doesn't Warhammer Online start soon? And no, you cannot have my stuff.
Swren1 Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.08.20 15:13:00 - [127] SAVE THE VAGA FAN \O/ NEED T-SHIRTS AND PENCILS PLEASE
Kyle Cataclysm Blue.	Posted - 2008.08.20 15:22:00 - [128] Edited by: Kyle Cataclysm on 20/08/2008 15:22:32 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU this is the proof
steelchief66	Posted - 2008.08.21 00:24:00 - [129] ccp have spoken they will be rebalanced
Sweet Rosella	Posted - 2008.08.21 13:51:00 - [130] I would Like to order 1 T-Shirt X-large please, with "Save the Vaga" on the back and a small badge around the left nipple saying "Just say no"

Gabriel Cruz	Posted - 2008.08.21 21:40:00 - [131] Originally by: Kyle Cataclysm Edited by: Kyle Cataclysm on 20/08/2008 15:22:32 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU this is the proof I got one better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65I0HNvTDH4
Sivonya	Posted - 2008.08.29 11:03:00 - [132] Originally by: Gabriel Cruz Originally by: Kyle Cataclysm Edited by: Kyle Cataclysm on 20/08/2008 15:22:32 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU this is the proof I got one better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65I0HNvTDH4 How can you make sucha cruel joke when we are talking about our little vagas, our poor babies So cruel, so cruel
Sivonya SRBI Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2008.11.06 16:01:00 - [133] Ah, no use Its extinct I believe you hunny, but my autocannon doesn't!!!
Zhula Guixgrixks Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.11.06 16:55:00 - [134] Hi Siv. At the PF- station you told me, you like Claws. I think it's about time to buy one :) ?? Ok but to be serious. I cannot cover all of your points except this: "so how can vaga be king of guerilla warfare when any ceptors can kill it easily (or asault or electronic frigs)" It's working boths ways now. A BS will have problems hitting your Vaga unless he's neuting and doing other nasty things.
Kalintos Tyl Minmatar	Posted - 2008.11.06 20:05:00 - [135] Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks Hi Siv. At the PF- station you told me, you like Claws. I think it's about time to buy one :) ?? Ok but to be serious. I cannot cover all of your points except this: "so how can vaga be king of guerilla warfare when any ceptors can kill it easily (or asault or electronic frigs)" It's working boths ways now. A BS will have problems hitting your Vaga unless he's neuting and doing other nasty things. unless its raven that will pown you ;] Quote: It's not a good idea to place a Exotic Dancers in a Giant Secure Container. The Exotic Dancers will not survive intact, if transported in such a container. [url="http://dl.eve-files.c
Atomos Darksun Infortunatus Eventus Obsidian Empire	Posted - 2008.11.06 22:12:00 - [136] Screw vaga's, save the ishtar! Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... Atomos' Guide to Forum Flaming
Sivonya SRBI Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2008.11.07 11:56:00 - [137] Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks Hi Siv. At the PF- station you told me, you like Claws. I think it's about time to buy one :) ?? Ok but to be serious. I cannot cover all of your points except this: "so how can vaga be king of guerilla warfare when any ceptors can kill it easily (or asault or electronic frigs)" It's working boths ways now. A BS will have problems hitting your Vaga unless he's neuting and doing other nasty things. well one ceptor cant do a thing to vagabond alone actually. 5 light drones do their thing or even if you speed up enough so the ceptor has lower angular speed and ergo you can track it a better. Same as that, every bs should have some equipment against smaller targets as neuts. But reducing vaga speed so bs-s dont need to have any neuts fitted isnt right. Its just making one ship useless I believe you hunny, but my autocannon doesn't!!!
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.11.07 12:09:00 - [138] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 07/11/2008 12:09:39 Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks "so how can vaga be king of guerilla warfare when any ceptors can kill it easily (or asault or electronic frigs)" It's working boths ways now. A BS will have problems hitting your Vaga unless he's neuting and doing other nasty things. Working both ways doesn't make it useful, and it doesn't actually work both ways. MWD-ing vagabond suffers less of a damage reduction then on TQ, and tbh, non-pimped Vagabonds get hit by BS when out of webrange just fine. Ceptors on the other hand, when looking at TQ plain T2 fit and SISI plain T2 fit, have more damage mitigation vs turrets then before thanks to lower speed and the huge damn signature radius change. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail mods@ccpgames.com ~Saint
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2008.11.07 12:20:00 - [139] get out of the vaga and into a scimitar. it's much more rewarding and if something can take advantage of this patch, it's the smallest t2 cruiser in town. - putting the gist back into logistics
Pipecock Jackxon Gallente Soldiers Of New Eve	Posted - 2008.11.07 13:01:00 - [140] Originally by: Sivonya Vagabonds are in great peril I did test vagabond with various fitting on singularity and didnt like what i saw. Regular vaga fit with 2 overdive, nanofiber and 2 gyro does not make vagabond go even 3km/s (orbit aroun 2.4km/s) Full nano low slot (without gyrostabilizers), with speed hardwirings and polycarbons goes 3.6km/s (orbit around 2.9km/s) Even when full nano fit (no gyrostabilizers - it has no dps to kill a npc in belt) in orbit of 2.9km/s it gets hammered by missiles Now Vagabond cant even tackle anything longer than 30 secs, cant avoid missiles, cant reach the falcon jamming at 200km away in reasonable time cant runaway when situation gets hot so how can vaga be king of guerilla warfare when any ceptors can kill it easily (or asault or electronic frigs) minmatars got their main advantage nerfed, its the same as if caldari got all shield resses cut in half or galente dronebays reduced to by 50% ....... well, now train for an interceptor....

oilio Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.11.07 18:09:00 - [141] Originally by: Kalintos Tyl Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks Hi Siv. At the PF- station you told me, you like Claws. I think it's about time to buy one :) ?? Ok but to be serious. I cannot cover all of your points except this: "so how can vaga be king of guerilla warfare when any ceptors can kill it easily (or asault or electronic frigs)" It's working boths ways now. A BS will have problems hitting your Vaga unless he's neuting and doing other nasty things. unless its raven that will pown you ;] Have you been on the test server? A cruise raven will do almost NOTHING to a vaga if it's moving - even if it doesn't have an AB on it. Torps are even worse. For a raven to hit the vaga for any meaningful damage, the vaga would need to be triple webbed and triple painted. Try it on the test server. Cruise missiles completely suck now. Missiles in general suck against anything that's moving.
Lisatrommi State War Academy	Posted - 2008.11.07 18:26:00 - [142] Armor tank it. That is all. (Yes I know, armor tanked Vaga's make three legged puppies cry. Wah.) Originally by: CCP Oveur Just donæt forget the reach-around.
Poba The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.11.07 19:14:00 - [143] Originally by: Relliassa Edited by: Relliassa on 03/08/2008 23:30:14 So you're not totally immune to missiles, uncatchable and close to unkillable if you're a competant pilot. Cry more. And I thought the funniest bit was "its the same as if caldari got all shield resses cut in half" - when it's actually Caldari who've been screwed over already by precisely those ships you're BAWWWing over. How about doing what nano*** pilots have been telling everyone else to do: adapt and survive. Yeah those words sound a whole lot nastier when it's other people saying it to you eh? Durrrrrrrrrrrr !!1!!one!! adapt and survive ? if you look at killboards youll find many pvp ships have lots of different fitting examples to do what they need to do. ratting ships are the ones with unimaginative standard fits. tbqfh 90% of ratting ships would be safe from the dreaded nano ships if they dropped one wep or salvager(or tractor beam you lazy freaking bears) to fit a heavy neut. oh noez it takes longer to kill rats deff not worth fitting a mod that saves your ship if it adds 5 secs per rat pvpers will find a way around nano to still have fun. but it will be great when all the bears that were having fun say "adapt or die" get hit with the missle in-lining and the local nerf get to eat the words they were so happy to just use.(yes in-lining, if your think they were balanced before then so was nano) tbh, the fact that the long range BS missles could hit a cruiser sized ship at 10m range for high damage is more rediculous than warping through a planet they needed fixing NEWSFLASH ppl used nano cause ratting ravens(which are the most frequent ratter you run into) could pop a PVP fit HAC if it tried to tank cause missles were so overpowered in terms of what they could hit. the fact that nano was the best way for a PVP fit ship to avoid dying to PVE fit ship should show you there was something wrong with game mechanics as much as i dislike QR, at least CCP is trying to balance nano nerf by fixing missles and 0.0 local. so everyone gets nerfed and has to adapt, good thing misery loves company i wonder who adapts faster ? pew pew pew ~Welcome to the internet, where the men are men, the women are men, and the children are FBI agents~
Ferocious FeAr THE FINAL STAND	Posted - 2008.11.07 22:27:00 - [144] Just learn how to deal with it, instead of arguing. The vaga can still go 3k, now you just need to be a bit more alert. Big deal. I've been flying the post nerf vaga on TQ for more then a month now, it's not that bad. signature pic exceeds size limit.~Weatherman
The Slagh	Posted - 2008.11.07 22:53:00 - [145] You guys are dingdongs. Blasters and Missiles are getting a nerf as well, so it all works out A-OK! Fly Amarr.
Chucky Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.11.08 04:21:00 - [146] FOCK THE VAGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111 ... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture.

Pages: 1 2 3 4 [5] :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.