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Salvo Brunel	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:11:00 - [61] Well, my mistake. I can't claim I wasn't warned.
Poleander	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:46:00 - [62] Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 19/08/2008 18:42:35 In other words my wallet reached about 12.5B (just before raw materials dropping in price) and one of my less popular accounts is at the moment nearing completion of its training for the shiny Amarrian toy that you see in my sig. Well played, care to let us know if this was the only IPO neded for that 12.5 B or is there one or two other IPOs, that are due for reports, involved?
Salvo Brunel	Posted - 2008.08.19 22:00:00 - [63] This is a complete quote of the original offering to avoid edit based revisionism. If anyone believes this isn't accurate please post. Originally by: LRN Edited by: LRN on 06/08/2008 03:10:28 My latest bond offering To cut a long story short, as phase one of an undertaking expected to implement PDE architecture and the principles of Participatory Organization, I'm offering a short term 5B bond (bearing 10% monthly interest) divided into 100 blocks of 50 shares (1m/share). There is no limit for the amount a single person can invest however I will prioritize reservations coming from previous investors or those that I regard as friends. Buyback at initial value of 1m/share will become available after just 2 weeks. I also reserve the right to terminate the bond at any time returning the initial investment plus interest accrued to that point to their rightful owners. This thread will serve both for tracking investments/issuing shares and for weekly reporting. 10 blocks - Frenden Dax - ISK RECEIVED 10 blocks - MilowFV - ISK RECEIVED 10 blocks - Dibba - ISK RECEIVED 6 blocks - Chaos Wraith - ISK RECEIVED 10 blocks - Jhebbal Khan - ISK RECEIVED 10 blocks - Kazuo Ishiguro - ISK RECEIVED 10 blocks - Insane Kiwi - ISK RECEIVED 6 blocks - Amrumm - ISK RECEIVED 3 blocks - Mutant Marr - ISK RECEIVED 4 blocks - Mike'P - ISK RECEIVED 8 blocks - Finedele - ISK RECEIVED 10 blocks - MooCowTrading - ISK RECEIVED 6 blocks - Kribor - ISK RECEIVED 10 blocks - Arch Miner - ISK RECEIVED 2 blocks - ArmagedonLT - ISK RECEIVED 10 blocks - Salvo Brunel - ISK RECEIVED
Ricdics Corporate Placement Holding	Posted - 2008.08.19 23:06:00 - [64] I kinda hope this is a scam just so he can get it over with and leave. However my saying this is likely to encourage him to stay longer to try and prove me wrong He can be bought, he will be bought, it's just a matter of time.
Thoran Karlien Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.19 23:33:00 - [65] Originally by: Ricdics I kinda hope this is a scam just so he can get it over with and leave. However my saying this is likely to encourage him to stay longer to try and prove me wrong He can be bought, he will be bought, it's just a matter of time. I'd miss him. An advocat diabolii or however it is spelled is needed. Or the fool poking fun at the king . You can decide on the roles. Besides did he ever said he can be trusted?
Amarr Citizen 155 Alternative Methods Research Group	Posted - 2008.08.20 00:29:00 - [66] I'm pretty tired from not getting much sleep last night and from a long day at work so forgive me if I've missed the obvious. I only see YGN saying he has lost some isk and is holding onto some stuff that dropped in price below his cost for the items. He also mentions that his alt is nearly done training for a mothership but does not state that he has/is scamming anyone. When I read it I just took it to be more useless info like a lot of his other posts. As much as I'd like to call scam I don't see that being the case here. I've attempted to take out the useless information and highlight the somewhat important stuff below: Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 19/08/2008 20:23:30 I've already passed the 625m profit mark needed to pay investors and tbh I am just too busy pushing large amounts of rigs into the market in the shortest time possible. And there are good reasons for that as the market for certain types is in a free fall and I'm seriously considering taking some time off due to burnout. As per terms of the original bond document the purpose of phase one of the project was to attempt a market stabilization operation by narrowing the profit gap for certain high volume rigs I am dealing in, while ridding myself of small time competition in the process. To that purpose I have dispatched trading characters in 3 regions and gradually increased the level of control I had both in the raw materials and final products market. As you might expect... blah blah blah something about profit blah blah blah I'm better than my competition blah blah blah I didn't get enough funding for my plan to work blah blah blah something about diversifying because the original plan didn't work. Blah blah blah I put most of my eggs in one basket and got caught with my pants down blah blah blah more crap about Participatory Organization and my never-gonna-happen dream of regulating the market regardless of how much isk I can't get from investors. blah blah blah I was up to 12.5B and now I'm down but you don't need to know how far down so watch now as I remove my thumb and re-attach it using MAGIC. Oh and something about a mothership character that I'm training that is not related to this offering. Long story short, he's already passed the 625m profit mark to pay investors but he has also suffered a large loss because of a market gamble.
cosmoray Cosmoray Construction	Posted - 2008.08.20 00:42:00 - [67] Your interesting update hinted around the subject. So, please let us know if you have scammed or not.
Roguehalo Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.08.20 09:51:00 - [68] Scammers usually have no clue how to do what they say they are going to do and don't usually have the skills trained anyway. YGR on the contrary works very hard at his game and is probably very good at what he does. I'm glad he's finally got a raft of investors on his own merits and I hope he doesn't let them down and I don't see any indication in this thread that he's about to any time soon. Kwint really needs to let go of the bone.......it's got to the stage now where the only purpose his posts serve is to make himself look foolish.
Ricdics Corporate Placement Holding	Posted - 2008.08.20 11:23:00 - [69] Originally by: Roguehalo Kwint really needs to let go of the bone.......it's got to the stage now where the only purpose his posts serve is to make himself look foolish. Quite interesting here that you dislike Kwint's posting however have no problem with the way YGR posts.
Roguehalo Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.08.20 15:16:00 - [70] I suspect that a close and detailed inspection of YGRs posting history would show that the 'bad' stuff he's posted has always been in RESPONSE to harassment of one kind of another he's received. Now that he's not, to any great degree, being harassed anymore his posts have improved tremendously and are certainly far more interesting than most in here. Shadarles grim farrago of 'everybodys stupid except me' posts and Kwints grim determination to keep open an issue that's closed gets a bit wearing after a bit. I even see the glimmering of mutual respect between YOU and YGR Who'd have thought it?

Ricdics Corporate Placement Holding	Posted - 2008.08.20 17:17:00 - [71] Originally by: Roguehalo I suspect that a close and detailed inspection of YGRs posting history would show that the 'bad' stuff he's posted has always been in RESPONSE to harassment of one kind of another he's received. You are kidding right? Do you actually read the MD forums? Dude... Quote: I even see the glimmering of mutual respect between YOU and YGR Don't hold your breath. What's going on with you lately Rogue? First you speak of Optical Illusion scams and now you speak of YGR not being a troll without provocation. I'm concerned about your health
Finedele Marquie-X Corp Majesta Empire	Posted - 2008.08.20 18:03:00 - [72] Edited by: Finedele on 20/08/2008 18:04:05 i think this thread is turning Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. lets wait what happens
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.08.20 18:04:00 - [73] Reserved.
Finedele Marquie-X Corp Majesta Empire	Posted - 2008.08.20 18:25:00 - [74] payment received as espected
Amrumm Rhetorical Devices	Posted - 2008.08.20 18:34:00 - [75] \o/ YGR
Kwint Sommer Caldari XERCORE	Posted - 2008.08.20 18:57:00 - [76] Originally by: Roguehalo I suspect that a close and detailed inspection of YGRs posting history would show that the 'bad' stuff he's posted has always been in RESPONSE to harassment of one kind of another he's received. Now that he's not, to any great degree, being harassed anymore his posts have improved tremendously and are certainly far more interesting than most in here. See, unlike you I have actually been here for all of his posts and have unfortunately read all of them. Before you come to any decisions you might want to do the same. You'll find someone wonderful things like this: Originally by: Roguehalo Shadarles grim farrago of 'everybodys stupid except me' posts and Kwints grim determination to keep open an issue that's closed gets a bit wearing after a bit. I'm curious, what "closed issue" are you referring to? YouGotRipped's repeated trolling and subsequent banning? His many failed attempts at gaining investment? Perhaps his admittance that his early attempts were in fact failed scams? Or the fact that I'm stilling **ed about him using this? Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Originally by:** Roguehalo I even see the glimmering of mutual respect between YOU and YGR Oh, wow. Sorry, I thought this was a serious post. Now I see you're just being sarcastic. My bad....
Finedele Marquie-X Corp Majesta Empire	Posted - 2008.08.20 19:09:00 - [77] Originally by: YouGotRipped I would like to present you with the Excellence award that Finedele was so kind to post above. now i see why you were so bidding me to post that pic again. im not that sure what i should think of it, maybe you should drop some matters between you and others here. nevertheless, payment was quite good. next divident will be around end of sept?
Insane Kiwi Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.08.20 19:27:00 - [78] Nice dividend
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.08.20 19:28:00 - [79] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 20/08/2008 19:33:53 That's OK, I'm going to settle this matter once and for all. Originally by: Kwint Sommer I'm curious, what "closed issue" are you referring to? YouGotRipped's repeated trolling and subsequent banning? You assumed I've been banned but feel free to get in touch with Mitnal if you don't believe me, I was actually busy making almost 10B isk in one month. It just shows just how narrow minded you are. I've never been banned. Originally by: Kwint Sommer His many failed attempts at gaining investment? And you deny your role in that? Perhaps I should whoop your ass some more then you'll see my point more clearly. Originally by: Kwint Sommer Perhaps his admittance that his early attempts were in fact failed scams? Here it is. Zen related entirely but you wouldn't know that. Originally by: Kwint Sommer Or the fact that I'm stilling ****ed about him using this? Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Yes I remember very well when you embarked on your crusade. I merely wanted to show you that you are making irresponsible claims like always but you assumed it was intended to associate you with an undeserved reputation you helped to create. Again something related to your intelligence. Anything else that's been bothering you Kwint?
Kwint Sommer Caldari XERCORE	Posted - 2008.08.20 20:13:00 - [80] Originally by: YouGotRipped Perhaps I should whoop your ass some more.... Thanks, I needed a good laugh. And as to the rest of it, your record speaks for itself. Well, at leas it does on eve-search, you have a nasty tendency to edit it here on the forums....

Amarr Citizen 155 Alternative Methods Research Group	Posted - 2008.08.20 20:31:00 - [81] Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155 Originally by: YouGotRipped There is no waiting period. I don't expect this to fly off the shelf so money sent is money received automatically diminishing the reservations pool. LRN will receive the isk btw. Why don't you expect this to fly off the shelf? I know I'm not interested but then again I haven't gotten over how you acted in your previous attempts a few months back. The fact that you have gotten a few bites also isn't that surprising but here's an honest question... What do yo think has changed or hasn't changed that has convinced some people to invest in you? bumping this question again. Oh and another question, you say you made over 10b this month but you previously hinted at a loss because of the rig prices plummeting and such. So is the 10b profit after taking into account your losses or was the hint at a loss just to create drama?
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.08.20 21:02:00 - [82] Originally by: Finedele Originally by: YouGotRipped I would like to present you with the Excellence award that Finedele was so kind to post above. now i see why you were so bidding me to post that pic again. im not that sure what i should think of it, maybe you should drop some matters between you and others here. nevertheless, payment was quite good. next divident will be around end of sept? Already dropped. Yes the next payment will occur around sept but no sooner than the 4th.
Salvo Brunel	Posted - 2008.08.21 10:57:00 - [83] Dividend received, thank you.
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2008.08.22 08:27:00 - [84] Looks as though the 500m I invested has been repaid. I'll return my shares as soon as requested. Zzz research towers Direrie NEW: Liekuri 20:1 low-end compression
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.08.22 08:31:00 - [85] Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Looks as though the 500m I invested has been repaid. I'll return my shares as soon as requested. You may keep those as a souvenir.
Finedele Marquie-X Corp Majesta Empire	Posted - 2008.08.22 09:12:00 - [86] this is mSh :(
MilowFV Echo Heavy Industries	Posted - 2008.08.22 09:25:00 - [87] Edited by: MilowFV on 22/08/2008 09:27:32 Hum do I need to log on and check my wallet did YGR close the bond or something? Turns out it is easyer to just check on the web site here looks like you close down sorry to hear that YGR.
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.08.22 13:59:00 - [88] Originally by: MilowFV Edited by: MilowFV on 22/08/2008 09:27:32 Hum do I need to log on and check my wallet did YGR close the bond or something? Turns out it is easyer to just check on the web site here looks like you close down sorry to hear that YGR. There are certain aspects of my life I've been neglecting. I'm not exactly leaving though there won't be much of a difference either. Originally by: Finedele this is mSh :( It's not mSh, I haven't forgotten about you and that knuffig green caterpillar You've received a whole round of dividends (625m) just to yourself. However make sure you read the ingame mail I've sent you in regards to possible destinations for the isk. I trust you will keep that info to yourself.
Finedele Marquie-X Corp Majesta Empire	Posted - 2008.08.22 14:13:00 - [89] you makes me wonder everyday, sir! this very interesting piece of information will be held confidential. anyway, will you stay around or is this again kind of a break you take?
Joss Sparq Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.22 14:22:00 - [90] Originally by: YouGotRipped You assumed I've been banned but feel free to get in touch with Mitnal if you don't believe me, I was actually busy making almost 10B isk in one month. It shows just how narrow minded you are. I've never been banned. There is something I'd like to raise about this comment. Now, I'm not exactly an MD devotee but unless I've missed something (which is entirely possible) - has YGR ever gone out of their way to make this statement when the subject has been raised prior to this thread?

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