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zero2espect
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2012.03.20 20:46:00 -
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The idea is simple. Cash a PLEX in for every full point of sec status.
Works along the lines of what i believe PLEX should be used for. Makes eve more fun and less "clicky, warpy, clicky" because you HAVE TO system chain rats to get sec status back.
This is expensive enough that it wont cause any massive unbalance in criminality. |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.20 22:16:00 -
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zero2espect wrote:Lameass (player, not idea) wants easy solve idea to deal with the harshness of EVE after losing sec status, cause they don't like the grindy feel replacing sec status while its damn easy to lose it (Hint: Player likes to be bad ass, but doesn't like to deal with the bad ass rep)
Yeah, thats what it looks like to me.
But another question:
Don't you sleep you freak? FFS, even back 2 months your killboard shows you are way to active. Impressive, but that is why your sec status falls so much. Stop playing CoD and think...it isn't manditory you have to shoot every ship or pod on grid, thats just the player's choice which affects sec status. |
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.03.20 23:20:00 -
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zero2espect wrote:The idea is simple. Cash a PLEX in for every full point of sec status.
Works along the lines of what i believe PLEX should be used for. Makes eve more fun and less "clicky, warpy, clicky" because you HAVE TO system chain rats to get sec status back.
This is expensive enough that it wont cause any massive unbalance in criminality.
But it might encourage CCP to put less rats in belts, or not share sec status gains in groups or keep sec status system as broken as it is. |
RatKnight1
The Dude's Interstellar Enterprizes Quixotic Hegemony
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Posted - 2012.03.20 23:40:00 -
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Buying sec status is one step above gold plated ships. Next it will be use a plex to buy a gold coating for a ship instead of clicking to rat and use the isk to buy mods. |
zero2espect
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2012.03.22 12:58:00 -
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I don't see the problem.
I can either choose to chain rats to get sec status back, mine our trade for isk and convert to sec status, or pay for it.
It doesn't hurt anybody who "hates the idea of Plex" and doesn't change the complexity of the game.
Its just a smart way to make the game simpler and more entertaining....as well as give another revenue stream to ccp and throw additional volume into the player operated market.
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Tikktokk Tokkzikk
Glorious Revolution The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.03.22 16:09:00 -
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Say no to RMT, kids! It might seem tempting but it will seriously damage you in the long run. |
Bubanni
SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353
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Posted - 2012.03.22 17:31:00 -
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:P remove sec status loss from low sec |
Bearilian
Man Eating Bears
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Posted - 2012.03.22 17:41:00 -
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-1 sorry but you should not be able to buy sec status loss. deal with the consequences of your actions... |
Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.22 20:12:00 -
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I think we should charge you a plex every time you come up with an idea as bad as this one. Time to-áCOMPLETELY REDESIGN THE U.I. FROM SCRATCH: - End the click fest & Multiple Window fest - Streamline and Simplify it-á - Improve scalability-á |
zero2espect
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2012.03.22 21:59:00 -
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to be transparent - this isn't about me. i'm not even -5
and news from fanfest is that this idea is probably redundant. you'll be using your plex to buy another item/s for the same effect. |
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Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.23 02:23:00 -
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zero2espect wrote:to be transparent - this isn't about me. i'm not even -5
and news from fanfest is that this idea is probably redundant. you'll be using your plex to buy another item/s for the same effect.
you guys really have to understand that the reality of eve moving forward is plex. instead of nice simple ideas like this one you get some hybrid that ccp will bring in which means the same thing.
i think you guys misunderstand plex. if you want to grind out your ore/rats instead of pay for it, good on you. but i know that eve is competing with free to play and hybrid models that means if players have to choose between grinding 12 hours in eve or paying $12 to receive gold in WOT and pay no monthly fee, where will more people put their money?
You are so painfully wrong. The EVE player base has already rejected the Pay To Win model so thoroughly that plex will only ever buy you ISK. People pay more than average to play this game, BECAUSE they don't want it dumbing down to a pay to win game. Nobody wants 1 week old noobs flying around in Titans, which is basically the way that slippery slope leads.
You idea would be the final nail in the coffin for EvE. That is why people are so hostile to it. Time to-áCOMPLETELY REDESIGN THE U.I. FROM SCRATCH: - End the click fest & Multiple Window fest - Streamline and Simplify it-á - Improve scalability-á |
zero2espect
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2012.03.23 23:19:00 -
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hahahaha. so why is this pay to win
if i wanted to move things around or get things done as a pirate, i'd have an alt do it. the alt is free, as i'd just use plex to fund it. even better, i'd buy an alt of the character bazaar from an RMTer using plex i bought using my visa
you guys seriously dont understand the complexity of the universe youre playing in. and you are seriously misunderstanding how rmt works. rmt is not about plex or pay to win. pay to win and rmt are completely separate beasts. if you have to know, rmters are now piling isk into corps with public shares - its the next big thing - almost untraceable future profits based on initial investment
pay to win is the ability to buy something which gives you an advantage in the game - the EA model. something that you cannot earn through hard work if you so choose
eve has basically already corrected this issue buy allowing isk to plex conversion. you can choose to pay for things or work for it. this is not pay to win. pay to win would be "Plex powered Large Antimatter" which does double the damage of standard ammo. or "Iceland Air powered Tech 3 Armor Repairer" with triple the rep bonus over a normal repper or a special plex that you can only get if you drop 3 plexes or paying 3 plexes to get the skills to fly t3 from a 2012 toon. nobody is suggesting this especially not me
what i want to see is a shitload more of vanity items like tattoos and clothes and simple ideas that cut out the absolute crap of eve that is mind numbing boring with the ability to replace it with plex options. for example today i can pay for a plex on paypal, convert that to 400-500m isk and buy trit and other mins to build megathrons (or megathrons). the time to mine that trit and mex and so forth, tell me - what is different between spending that time in a belt mining and that time spent ratting for sec status....
if anything - my option cuts out the rmters as i am trading direct with ccp and not with rmters for goods. remember rmt is about using the exchange between real life money and in game goods and the reverse. it's not about pay to win. and again i wouldnt classify this idea, or even the idea of paying 1 PLEX for a -10 player to move a ship through high sec (with their modules disabled) as pay to win. there is nothing happening here that isnt done today with neutral alts, a shitload of pod jumps and mind numbing boredom
i need to understand your perspective of what you think is fun to understand your position. i think pvp is fun. anything that enables faster transition from idle time to pvp time is worth either isk or cash to me. i pay a subscription each month that i dont want a large % of my "time" to be spent doing basically jack ****. if you think mining ore for hours in a belt is fun you are not going to like the baisc principles of plex in the entirety. oh and btw if ccp just bit the bullet and cracked down on botters, miners would have a payday if they converted there profits to plexes...or maybe i'm mistaken. i play eve for fun. i know tht some people play eve as a business and plex cuts into that business because they are not clever enough to understand that plex offers a way to increase investments already made rather than sacrifice them.
you have to understand i'm not being difficult i'm just trying to see what your point of views are. |
Olaf4862
Alpha Strategy In Umbra Mortis
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Posted - 2012.03.24 01:44:00 -
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zero2espect wrote:The idea is simple. Cash a PLEX in for every full point of sec status.
Works along the lines of what i believe PLEX should be used for. Makes eve more fun and less "clicky, warpy, clicky" because you HAVE TO system chain rats to get sec status back.
This is expensive enough that it wont cause any massive unbalance in criminality.
SImply put, this would allow players to buy status and CCP has stated players will not be able to use real money to gain in advantage ingame. This falls under that. |
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