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SSgt Sniper Gallente MAIDS	Posted - 2008.08.09 15:58:00 - [61] Edited by: SSgt Sniper on 09/08/2008 16:06:21 Originally by: Corewin The Caldari militia is far from suffering. It is only those who know little of who is truly running this war machine that think so. Tibus Heth's influence on the militia is little more than a war he helped usher in. While the Secretariat has done nothing more than networking CEOs and FCs on his behalf. There is more at work here, than seen by the average militia member, and it is only lack of faith that breads fear and suffering. See you on the battlefield. -Corewin As the man who spearheaded the operation that went on to become one of the bloodiest defeats I've seen the State suffer, I can firmly say the Caldari militia is on the slide. The days of Drakes and Ravens being in abundance everywhere I look have faded. The last few days before we were called away to assist an old friend elsewhere were marked by being completely unable to find a force to fight beyond a few frigate here and there. We crush your fleets, we crush your towers, and now, we begin to crush your hold on systems. I look forward to my the return of MAIDS to the fight next week. I will see the day the Federation holds all of Black Rise, or I will die trying. ------- CEO of Maids. No I didn't pick the name. I've grown rather fond of it though.
Corewin Achmed Fleet	Posted - 2008.08.09 16:12:00 - [62] Edited by: Corewin on 09/08/2008 16:16:46 Originally by: Sky Grunthor Come bring your fight to us as we have brought the fight to you. And maybe the fantasy will appear less fanciful to New Eden. And maybe the fantasy will only prove to be that... a fantasy. I fail to recall ever being in a system with a FOOM fleet that hasn't either led to the dissolving of their local presence after arriving or turned into a continuous station undocking and redocking drill. Originally by: Sky Grunthor You claim that you are dominating in controlling space via your forces... yet you Caldari have lost fleet after fleet to the Gallente militia and Gallente corporations. I would like to know what "fantasy" world you pulled that out of. What Achmed led force have YOU engaged and come out with a pure victory? Only once has an Achmed Fleet lost in a full scale battle at the beginning of this war, and we have always held the field since then, accounting for dozens of engagements. So take your useless babble and refresh the facts. Although you may kill multiple targets in the same system within a short period, it can usually be chalked up to A. they are not in a fleet, or B. they are not in an organized one with an experienced FC. Covering up your inability to face us head on, with a challenge to fight you in a meaningless "points" war, is down right shameful. At least have the common decency to notice the people who talk and the people who actually come looking for you are generally on two completely different spectrum within the Caldari militia.
Sky Grunthor Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.09 16:32:00 - [63] Originally by: Corewin fantasy continuing... The fantasy of numbers, graphs and statistics shows quite easily the facts. IC has been kind enough to provide us with a summary of them. Its funny... I don't see Achmed Fleet on them. I do see PIE, Outbreak, Invitca. and many other corps including a conspicuous corp that appears in every single summary. Maybe you should acquaint yourself with them here. Where is Achmed Fleet? oh... between Tama and OMS? Ok, good to know. Please bring some substance to your arguments. In the mean time... we will be taking over the rest of black rise while your blob travels the corridor. Search: Sky Grunthor
SSgt Sniper Gallente MAIDS	Posted - 2008.08.09 16:40:00 - [64] For that matter, where was Achmed when MAIDS and Avignon Associates were leading The FDU in slaughtering 160ish Caldari and killing a Secretariate tower? We were in one place for most of the night. We couldn't have been that hard to find. I hear your words, I don't see you actions. What I do see is Dead Parrot, Avignon Assoc, MAIDS, Funk's bunch, and a few others leading a charge that's running your allies through a grinder over and over and over again. Maybe you should get out there and see what's actually happening Corewin. ------- CEO of Maids. No I didn't pick the name. I've grown rather fond of it though.
Friedrick Psitalon The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.09 16:42:00 - [65] Smack now, Corewin? Be careful not to put yourself in a position you can't sustain. Much like your determination to save a POS in Enaluri with your fleet which was unable to project the determination and staying power to do the job, what the Caldari militia lacks that is killing them is simple: the grit needed to stick it out. Victory comes through occupation, not raiding. Raiding damages morale and weakens infrastructure - but it achieves no victory. Since your raid fleets don't strike where morale and infrastructure exist - high-sec - they are unlikely to manage much real change. Forming a big fleet, sweeping through Black Rise, and then retreating to high-sec does not equate to any form of success or tactics. It's your space but you fear to live in it. Come back and do more than raid, Corewin. Then we will listen. CAIN and Duty. understand. They fight where it matters. You scream into the darkness, beat your chest, and leave. In your heart, in the core of your being, in your soul, the truth is known to you, and it is known to us: you fear the dark where we lie.
Natalia Duraldi Gallente Pillowsoft	Posted - 2008.08.09 19:06:00 - [66] Well I look forward to the prospect of seeing more Caldari fleets in the future, it should give us something other than the pirates in Onatoh to shoot at.
Rodney Caston The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.09 19:53:00 - [67] Originally by: Corewin There will always be the inevitable loses in war. Tactically speaking these victories hold no significance You just invoked the first usage of "We didn't want those systems anyways." in Factional Warfare. congrads ;)
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.08.09 20:18:00 - [68] Dear Corewin, Thank you for brining your corp to our attention. Will have responded accordingly. ---
Corewin Achmed Fleet	Posted - 2008.08.09 22:13:00 - [69] Originally by: Heartstone Edited by: Heartstone on 09/08/2008 20:34:45 Dear Corewin, Thank you for brining your corp to our attention. We have responded accordingly. Seriously Heartstone, Can your corporation be any more bias? I think not.
Victoria Ehr State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.08.09 22:18:00 - [70] Originally by: Sky Grunthor FOOM and company are not hard to find and we are quite willing to fight with numbers against us. We don't suicide but we don't hide. Corewin's Caldari fleet was just in Enaluri and FOOM hid in their POS like chickens as if we were Pandemic Legion. Later, the Caldari Fleet moved to engage the FOOM fleet on the Ichoriya star gate but FOOM fleet ran to Enaluri to hide in their POS. So much for willing to fight with numbers against them. Your right Sky, FOOM is not hard to find, they are usually sitting in their POS when they face a fleet and cant "gank" someone. They have never changed from their days in BRUCE, they talk tough, they wave their EGO in the air, but when it comes time to put up or shut up, they fail. They ran from an entire Alliance (bruce) when real opposition (pandemic legion) embarrassed their FC's and cap fleet, now they hide from formidable Caldari fleets. Watch out Gallente, soon as the going gets tough, FOOM will get going and wont give you much notice like they did to BRUCE. FOOM has a history, it is one of shame in EVE. A shame the Gallente embrace them. -------------------------------------------- The path to power is up!

Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.08.09 22:25:00 - [71] Originally by: Corewin Seriously Heartstone, Can your corporation be any more bias? I think not. Me either. We are biased against those those that would directly or indirectly support Heth's regime. We are indeed biased against those who proclaim themselves the leaders of our enemies. Much as you are bias against the Federate Militia. Like the Minmatar are Biased against the Amarr. Like we are against any sitting power who tries to limit us. ---
Victoria Ehr State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.08.09 22:33:00 - [72] Edited by: Victoria Ehr on 09/08/2008 22:34:48 Originally by: SSgt Sniper For that matter, where was Achmed when MAIDS and Avignon Associates were leading The FDU in slaughtering 160ish Caldari and killing a Secretariate tower? Achmed fleet was busy running down Gallente fleets that were too afraid to engage. No matter how much propaganda you pump out about Caldari weaknesses, it will be met by Caldari courage and determination. The funny thing about this, is the Gallente are embracing FOOM and front man Friedrick Pistalon as a hero when he is probably one of the most known dirt bags in the galaxy. He was a failure in the face of hard opposition and went to the Gallente to find easier ways to pump his own ego, not to help you. He could care less about the Gallente people, just read about what he thinks of the average warrior. [20:41:16] Friedrick Psitalon > Getting people like you to follow me without question and feel horribly betrayed later on. :) [20:41:25] Friedrick Psitalon > Leading mindless drones, basically. ;) [20:41:39] Victoria Ehr > is that why you run a corp? [20:41:53] Friedrick Psitalon > I don't run FOOM. You're behind the times. Is that your hero, Gallente? -------------------------------------------- The path to power is up!
Mendolorian Girl Caldari The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.09 23:01:00 - [73] Originally by: Victoria Ehr Is that your hero, Gallente? no Victoria, you're my hero.. srsly.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.08.09 23:08:00 - [74] Originally by: Rodney Caston You just invoked the first usage of "We didn't want those systems anyways." in Factional Warfare. congrads ;) Actually that was the Amarrians, about Kourmonen. And then Ezzara. And then Arzad, and Lamaa, and Roushzar, Tararan... ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander Asuka Smith > not even goons can make 30m ISK this interesting.
Rodney Caston The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.10 00:36:00 - [75] Edited by: Rodney Caston on 10/08/2008 00:50:18 Originally by: Victoria Ehr [20:41:39] Victoria Ehr > is that why you run a corp? [20:41:53] Friedrick Psitalon > I don't run FOOM. You're behind the times. Friedrick Psitalon runs FOOM? I thought we were an autonomous collective. Originally by: Victoria Ehr Corewin's Caldari fleet was just in Enaluri and FOOM hid in their POS like chickens as if we were Pandemic Legion. Strange, We keep inviting you to our POS for cookies, but you never come. You had in excess of 70+ ships, and I think Enaluri had about 9 FOOMers. In fact, for the glorious 12 minutes you remained in system, you never left the security blanket of the Nennamalia gate. You managed to get a big blob to fly down to our system and do.. absolutely nothing, you didn't even try to spin a plex for your trouble. heh Congrads go to Corwin, when it comes to getting 70+ Caldari to spam local with internet memes and scroll text at your enemies, you are the the 'ossom' Sadly, when it comes to killing FOOM pilots, killing FOOM POSs, conquering FOOM systems, or pretty much doing anything that actually impacts the war, you and the rest of the Caldari militia remain the 'fail'. So why is that, exactly? Ahwell, maybe when you get 100+ in a fleet, you'll have the nerve to step up to the big league ;)
cirus670 Caldari The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.10 00:56:00 - [76] Edited by: cirus670 on 10/08/2008 00:57:12 Golly Gee, I am really sorry that a 150 man corp can't come up with the numbers that a 7000 man militia can. If your entire argument is that all we do is sit at our pos, why not try to do somthing about it? Obviously you cant or you already would have. Victoria, Im sorry that you are such an ignorant person. I know that it must be traumatic to wake up every day and realize that you are unable to think or do anything for yourself. Keep on spreading the hate that you must so deeply hold, for I am sure many of you militia mates must hold on to it dearly. "We are here for our fun, not yours".
Dex Nederland Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2008.08.10 01:26:00 - [77] Originally by: "Rodney Caston" Sadly, when it comes to killing FOOM pilots, killing FOOM POSs, conquering FOOM systems, or pretty much doing anything that actually impacts the war, you and the rest of the Caldari militia remain the 'fail'. Technical question - do you consider it a FOOM system or a Federation occupied system? Founder Heiian Society
cirus670 Caldari The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.10 01:36:00 - [78] I believe my Corpmate means a system belonging to the Federation taken in majority by Foom. "We are here for our fun, not yours".
Sky Grunthor Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.10 03:56:00 - [79] Edited by: Sky Grunthor on 10/08/2008 03:56:15 Victoria Ehr > sky grunther we have arrived, They left defeated by the Gallente Militia in their pods and some in new clones. At least they did come though... credit where credit is due. Search: Sky Grunthor
Victoria Ehr State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.08.10 07:19:00 - [80] Edited by: Victoria Ehr on 10/08/2008 07:19:12 Originally by: Sky Grunthor Edited by: Sky Grunthor on 10/08/2008 03:56:15 Victoria Ehr > sky grunther we have arrived, They left defeated by the Gallente Militia in their pods and some in new clones. At least they did come though... credit where credit is due. Sitting quietly in her office in Nourvukaiken, sipping a Starsi coffee. Upon reading the news that her prize Raven battleship was destroyed, the Starsi went down the wrong pipe and then onto the computer monitor. The Bastards will pay! cough -------------------------------------------- The path to power is up!

SSgt Sniper Gallente MAIDS	Posted - 2008.08.10 08:31:00 - [81] Originally by: Victoria Ehr Edited by: Victoria Ehr on 09/08/2008 22:34:48 Originally by: SSgt Sniper For that matter, where was Achmed when MAIDS and Avignon Associates were leading The FDU in slaughtering 160ish Caldari and killing a Secretariate tower? Achmed fleet was busy running down Gallente fleets that were too afraid to engage. No matter how much propaganda you pump out about Caldari weaknesses, it will be met by Caldari courage and determination. The funny thing about this, is the Gallente are embracing FOOM and front man Friedrick Pistalon as a hero when he is probably one of the most known dirt bags in the galaxy. He was a failure in the face of hard opposition and went to the Gallente to find easier ways to pump his own ego, not to help you. He could care less about the Gallente people, just read about what he thinks of the average warrior. [20:41:16] Friedrick Psitalon > Getting people like you to follow me without question and feel horribly betrayed later on. :) [20:41:25] Friedrick Psitalon > Leading mindless drones, basically. ;) [20:41:39] Victoria Ehr > is that why you run a corp? [20:41:53] Friedrick Psitalon > I don't run FOOM. You're behind the times. Is that your hero, Gallente? Yes, because Bruce fell to Pandemic before BoB and Goon started hammering on them as well- oh wait, all three hammered on them at once. And they still managed to give BoB one or two of the best beatings I ever saw them take in spite of how it was all going wrong around them. You act as if the diseased griefers operated alone- let me assure you as one who was there- they did not. Bruce was doomed from the beginning of that mess as would have anyone been save the omnipotent themselves. I believe Fried and the rest of us working to focus the militia will be able to defeat the Caldari because let's face it: You aren't the Omnipotent, you certainly aren't as cunning as the diseased ones, and you don't lack the endless numbers and finances of the Bees. I've fought all three, and nothing in the Caldari Militia holds a candle to any of them. On Monday MAIDS returns to the fight- feel free to try and prove me wrong. ------- CEO of Maids. No I didn't pick the name. I've grown rather fond of it though.
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.08.10 09:48:00 - [82] Originally by: Rodney Caston We keep inviting you to our POS for cookies, but you never come. You had in excess of 70+ ships, and I think Enaluri had about 9 FOOMers. In fact, for the glorious 12 whole minutes you remained in system, you never left the security blanket of the Nennamaila gate. You managed to get a big blob to fly down to our system and do.. absolutely nothing, you didn't even try to spin a plex for your trouble. heh I've seen that starbase of yours. In fact, I have the information as to its exact configuration right here, and believe me - there isn't a remotely sane or competent fleet commander in the whole of New Eden who would consider taking that thing on with a subcapital fleet of any size. Fortunately for us, however, the sphere of influence of a POS is vanishingly small relative to the scale of a star system. They can't move, they can only project their firepower out to... what? three hundred kilometers? That thing's inconvenient, it's true, but not really worth the Protectorate's time. - Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Corewin Achmed Fleet	Posted - 2008.08.10 10:02:00 - [83] Originally by: Heartstone Me either. We are biased against those those that would directly or indirectly support Heth's regime. We are indeed biased against those who proclaim themselves the leaders of our enemies. Much as you are bias against the Federate Militia. Like the Minmatar are Biased against the Amarr. Like we are against any sitting power who tries to limit us. Spare me. You've become nothing more than ideological pets. Take this for instance. Originally by: The Cosmopolite While setting all government-controlled militias to -10, and noting that there are two geographically distinct war zones in the cluster following the recent upheavals, the Star Fraction will initially be focusing its opposition to the militia movements in the Black Rise region. This is to underline not only our opposition to this new form of imperial control over capsuleers but also to fight against the colonisation of yet another region of space by core empires. In this we oppose not only the Caldari State but also the Gallente Federation. While the State has appropriated this volume of space aggressively and is certainly guilty of precipitating the conflict over that region, it is clear the only response the Federation can conceive of is to attempt to conquer the region for itself. The Star Fraction opposes these imperial powers in their grab and counter-grab over this region and we will seek to hinder the forces of both to the furthest possible extent. Surely this would have made sense had you actually followed through. However, you fell short, quickly excepting a half **ed outlook on the current conflict and focusing your efforts on one soul faction. I do not see anything about Heth, nothing about tyrannical regimes, nothing. Gone are the days I can think of Star Fraction positively, fighting for freedom and justice against those who would openly support slavery and the Amarr. Now, reduced to little more than thugs, hiding behind Concord. You disappoint me, Star Fraction. Though, I am afraid your actions will do little to halt the formation of fleets and all that is "Business as usual". Perhaps if you had done more research you would have found that The Star Fraction and Achmed Fleet have very similar goals. Alas. Originally by:** Rodney Caston Strange, We keep inviting you to our POS for cookies, but you never come. You had in excess of 70+ ships, and I think Enaluri had about 9 FOOMers. In fact, for the glorious 12 whole minutes you remained in system, you never left the security blanket of the Nennamaila gate. You managed to get a big blob to fly down to our system and do.. absolutely nothing, you didn't even try to spin a plex for your trouble. heh Is Ignorance Bliss, Mr. Caston? You truly are an inspiration to us all if it is. Hiding behind a POS, Smack Talking Local COMS, and then having the gall to call us failures because we did not engage a POS, which would have required a special case such as your self to believe it would have been worth our time. We stayed for 15 minutes, entering system and warping to a station followed by a 5 minute break for those who needed it. I myself went through the system scanning for tactical sites. When none were found, it was only logical to leave your corporation and company to your fantastic little POS. Originally by: cirus670 Golly Gee, I am really sorry that a 150 man corp can't come up with the numbers that a 7000 man militia can. If your entire argument is that all we do is sit at our pos, why not try to do somthing about it? Obviously you cant or you already would have. It would take a fool to believe that the militias numbers, as recorded by IC, is a true representation of its fighting force. If that were the case I should have hundreds in my fleets, rather than 40-70.
Tara Armitage Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.08.10 10:38:00 - [84] Originally by: Corewin Perhaps if you had done more research you would have found that The Star Fraction and Achmed Fleet have very similar goals. Alas. No. As for the rest of your message concerning us, the war has barely started. As ever, we choose our tactics according to what we think best advances our strategic goals which at this time are public. If you don't like it, we are doing something very right. This has been all the time I have to spare for educating the likes of you. Now, burn.
Corewin Achmed Fleet	Posted - 2008.08.10 10:49:00 - [85] Edited by: Corewin on 10/08/2008 10:50:01 Originally by: Tara Armitage No. As for the rest of your message concerning us, the war has barely started. As ever, we choose our tactics according to what we think best advances our strategic goals which at this time are public. If you don't like it, we are doing something very right. This has been all the time I have to spare for educating the likes of you. Now, burn. Terrorism never was a pretty word. Lets put a pretty bow in its hair and call it Anti-Territorial insurgency. Oh wait, lets also go as far as supporting the Gallente in their territorial expansion... wow things are starting to get a bit lop sided here... what was all that stuff you guys said at the beginning of this war? Take off those blinders and realize what a dramatic irony you are.
Mendolorian Girl Caldari The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.10 11:53:00 - [86] Originally by: Corewin It would take a fool to believe that the militias numbers, as recorded by IC, is a true representation of its fighting force. If that were the case I should have hundreds in my fleets, rather than 40-70. ..and yet it's perfectly acceptable to expect us to field a full fleet 23/7. I will make several concessions to your point though. I suspect that at times the number of active/willing pilots in a FW involved corp as a percentage are significantly higher than those from the Faction Corp's. However, also bear in mind that FOOM (just using us as an example here) is probably one of the bigger corps, at around 150 (I have no idea how accurate that is either). The advantage of numbers, even if your percentage of active/willing pilots is horribly low is that the natural eb and flow of active pilots doesn't affect you so much. 150 people in your corp means that the slightest eb means you can have a very small number available. So please, don't make out that numbers don't give you an advantage. We're glad they do, we're not complaining about it, or trying to make out that we're the poor little hard done by corp, so please don't be defensive about it, just accept it for what it is. On a different topic, it would serve you well to dial back on the rhetoric some. You're bordering on coming across as very COAD like, which would be a shame I'm sure you'll agree. We can all act as if we have respect for each other, whatever the degree of actual respect is.
Funkcikle Gallente MicroFunks	Posted - 2008.08.10 12:40:00 - [87] See you on the battlefield. -Corewin Yes you will, quite clearly, I however can't seem to target your cov ops :)
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.08.10 15:11:00 - [88] Originally by: Funkcikle Yes you will, quite clearly, I however can't seem to target your cov ops :) Which means he's a good Covops pilot. Good on him. - Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
UnDeRBaLaNcE dearg doom	Posted - 2008.08.11 01:29:00 - [89] Caldari are not safe any where, not even empire. Killed many in empire alone and in gangs.
Zekarus Caldari MAIDS	Posted - 2008.08.11 09:44:00 - [90] Originally by: SSgt Sniper As the man who spearheaded the operation... As the man that never saw any action in that particular operation, I demand less GalNet'ing and more planning. Or I defect. ----------------- MAIDS. Now with black, frilly uniforms.

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