Originally by: Splagada

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You guys are in full BS or drake or whatever you want gangs, with logistics, with remote rep in gang, with double digit capital support at anytime. and well with burn eden :p

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Originally by: Kikki Di'je

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We are talking about how you people need to loosen up and get with the program, a very valid topic which is indeed tied to the op.

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Originally by: SomeHardLovin

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As a reminder.. war is not won or lost in a day.

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Originally by: Splagada

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we didnt exactly saw the 1st week of burn eden camp in P3 as beginning of war. Our mistake for sure!

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Originally by: Usha Lamia

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We have 3 times there numbers but TRI still outblob us, I petitioned already via GM Gandalf

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Originally by: Usha Lamia

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I have nothing for respect for BE. They have their style of play and their tactics and that's what they do well. They gave HYDRA a good fight with little to no smack talk as I remember. Everyone knows how they play, albeit annoying, it's turned out to be quite effective.

KIA/Daisho gave a good fight as well. No smack talk, respectable fights most of the time, except for the DDD every hour like clockwork, to which they admitted it was a new toy and they wanted to test it. I still give them kudos for the fights they brought and the honor on the battlefield. Many alliances and corps could learn from them.

Tri, on the other hand, can't make up their minds. This is not smack talk because I am in HYDRA either, this is just my observation after reading months of their CAOD posts. They ***** about blob warfare all the time, yet this is what they are doing in HYDRA space. They say they don't want HYDRA space but they'll take it if HYDRA doesn't defend it. What kind of wishy washy decision making is this? You do or you don't? Now they somehow managed to get BE to join their alliance, God only knows why BE would even succumb to that. BE has claimed many times they liked being effective in small numbers as they are. Now TRI as adopted BE strategy with the nano cloaking camping and become a blob warfare entity within Eve while still contradicting themselves in CAOD. They have entirely too many smack talking teenagers in space. They sit in space with 2-3 in local and whine that HYDRA won't undock, yet HYDRA has learned that when someone does decide to undock, suddnely those 2-3 turn into 20-30 in an instant and we are the lame carebears that can't fight 2 on 20 odds. A bit hypocritical maybe? They all claim to want good fights but yet resort to blob warfare with caps when the possibility of them losing something arises. HYDRA is not stupid. We will not blatantly charge into a losing battle no matter how much you try to taunt us and smack us here or in local space.

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Originally by: Pamangkin

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Edited by: Pamangkin on 08/08/2008 19:17:09
Really getting out blob by a smaller alliance than yours is not Tri's issue but your membership participation in PVP ops issue. Tell your alliance to join gang.

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Besides war is not about being equal.

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Originally by: Ackaroth

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@ Lucia: You will never be able to stop people from chest beating. This is a game where pride is derived from:

Who you fly with
What you fly
How you fly
How much you kill

And when people go somewhere, and start killing people, be they sharks or sheep, the agresssor is going to brag about it. Sadly, in this case, HYDRA isnt a shark. TRI could have said lets go fight BoB, but thats not what they wanted to do. TRI didnt want to get blobbed to hell and back (despite what some chestbeaters will say... ie: Bring it on, we will take whatever you can throw). History has shown that TRI does well against even and larger gangs, but when an enemy tries to throw hundreds at us, that diminishes experience for everyone. This isnt news, everyone knows it, its just how it turns out that causes bragging or whining. If we had grid loaded and turkey shot, sure as shit alot will brag. If it was opposite, sure as shit alot would say well thanks for blobbing. No one wins, except ccp collecting monthlies. But thats a whole nother ball of wax.


Basically, get over it. Alliances like HYDRA are cool, and will get picked on, and when the time is right, they will lose their space, because like people have already said, if you cant defend your space, you dont deserve it. That is just how it is. The powerbloc's keep alot of that from happening, but when opportunity knocks...

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Originally by: Lucia Cruz

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Furthermore and I have mentioned it before, is that not everyone gains the same out of PVP as some others do. In fact if you take an average euro primetime of around 30,000 - 35,000 players logging into TQ, it's actually a very small minority that want to PVP (something most seem to forgets) So I am saying don't be suprised when you pick a target, that they don't actually want to fight because the law of averages says they probably don't want to.

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Originally by: Pamangkin

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Originally by: Lucia Cruz

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Furthermore and I have mentioned it before, is that not everyone gains the same out of PVP as some others do. In fact if you take an average euro primetime of around 30,000 - 35,000 players logging into TQ, it's actually a very small minority that want to PVP (something most seem to forgets) So I am saying don't be suprised when you pick a target, that they don't actually want to fight because the law of averages says they probably don't want to.

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Is this an official surrender statement from Hydra?

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Originally by: Lucia Cruz

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Edited by: Lucia Cruz on 08/08/2008 19:27:49

Originally by: Ackaroth

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@ Lucia: You will never be able to stop people from chest beating. This is a game where pride is derived from:

Who you fly with
What you fly
How you fly
How much you kill

And when people go somewhere, and start killing people, be they sharks or sheep, the agresssor is going to brag about it. Sadly, in this case, HYDRA isnt a shark. TRI could have said lets go fight BoB, but thats not what they wanted to do. TRI didnt want to get blobbed to hell and back (despite what some chestbeaters will say... ie: Bring it on, we will take whatever you can throw). History has shown that TRI does well against even and larger gangs, but when an enemy tries to throw hundreds at us, that diminishes experience for everyone. This isnt news, everyone knows it, its just how it turns out that causes bragging or whining. If we had grid loaded and turkey shot, sure as shit alot will brag. If it was opposite, sure as shit alot would say well thanks for blobbing. No one wins, except ccp collecting monthlies. But thats a whole nother ball of wax.


Basically, get over it. Alliances like HYDRA are cool, and will get picked on, and when the time is right, they will lose their space, because like people have already said, if you cant defend your space, you dont deserve it. That is just how it is. The powerbloc's keep alot of that from happening, but when opportunity knocks...

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Your absolutely right, everyone going into 0.0 knows the risks. And never have I said alliances deserve to hold 0.0 space without having to defend them. My point is if you want so called "uber" fights then choose someone you know is going to give it.

Furthermore and I have mentioned it before, is that not everyone gains the same out of PVP as some others do. In fact if you take an average euro primetime of around 30,000 - 35,000 players logging into TQ, it's actually a very small minority that want to PVP (something most seem to forgets) So I am saying don't be suprised when you pick a target, that they don't actually want to fight because the law of averages says they probably don't want to.

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Originally by: Kikki Di'je

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Originally by: Splagada

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You guys are in full BS or drake or whatever you want gangs, with logistics, with remote rep in gang, with double digit capital support at anytime. and well with burn eden :p

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tbfh, capitals are there for your towers. Everyone is looking for a fight, not a slaughter.

it doesn't take much to fit a remote rep onto any ship

what about BE? they don't know wtf is going on half the time cause SATAN won't stfu on comms from what i remember (reason why I left tri tbfh). (did you see what I did there?)

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Originally by: Zandramus

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Originally by: Usha Lamia

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I have nothing for respect for BE. They have their style of play and their tactics and that's what they do well. They gave HYDRA a good fight with little to no smack talk as I remember. Everyone knows how they play, albeit annoying, it's turned out to be quite effective.

KIA/Daisho gave a good fight as well. No smack talk, respectable fights most of the time, except for the DDD every hour like clockwork, to which they admitted it was a new toy and they wanted to test it. I still give them kudos for the fights they brought and the honor on the battlefield. Many alliances and corps could learn from them.

Tri, on the other hand, can't make up their minds. This is not smack talk because I am in HYDRA either, this is just my observation after reading months of their CAOD posts. They ***** about blob warfare all the time, yet this is what they are doing in HYDRA space. They say they don't want HYDRA space but they'll take it if HYDRA doesn't defend it. What kind of wishy washy decision making is this? You do or you don't? Now they somehow managed to get BE to join their alliance, God only knows why BE would even succumb to that. BE has claimed many times they liked being effective in small numbers as they are. Now TRI as adopted BE strategy with the nano cloaking camping and become a blob warfare entity within Eve while still contradicting themselves in CAOD. They have entirely too many smack talking teenagers in space. They sit in space with 2-3 in local and whine that HYDRA won't undock, yet HYDRA has learned that when someone does decide to undock, suddnely those 2-3 turn into 20-30 in an instant and we are the lame carebears that can't fight 2 on 20 odds. A bit hypocritical maybe? They all claim to want good fights but yet resort to blob warfare with caps when the possibility of them losing something arises. HYDRA is not stupid. We will not blatantly charge into a losing battle no matter how much you try to taunt us and smack us here or in local space.

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lawlawlalwlawlal rly tho sted of sitting in your station crying on the forums while we kill your towers with like 15 man bs gangs maybe you should form a gang of your own and actually do something-i spose that doesnt make any sense at all?

as for blobs think our biggest gang top'd at bout 135ish when that nc 'roaming' nano gang came to p3

stop crying cuz you suck,stop crying cuz your allies left you to die and stop crying because you guys cant seem to put a half decent gang together maybe you will see better results......situation you are in now is no1's fault but your own

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Originally by: Usha Lamia

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I have nothing for respect for BE. They have their style of play and their tactics and that's what they do well. They gave HYDRA a good fight with little to no smack talk as I remember. Everyone knows how they play, albeit annoying, it's turned out to be quite effective.

KIA/Daisho gave a good fight as well. No smack talk, respectable fights most of the time, except for the DDD every hour like clockwork, to which they admitted it was a new toy and they wanted to test it. I still give them kudos for the fights they brought and the honor on the battlefield. Many alliances and corps could learn from them.

Tri, on the other hand, can't make up their minds. This is not smack talk because I am in HYDRA either, this is just my observation after reading months of their CAOD posts. They ***** about blob warfare all the time, yet this is what they are doing in HYDRA space. They say they don't want HYDRA space but they'll take it if HYDRA doesn't defend it. What kind of wishy washy decision making is this? You do or you don't? Now they somehow managed to get BE to join their alliance, God only knows why BE would even succumb to that. BE has claimed many times they liked being effective in small numbers as they are. Now TRI as adopted BE strategy with the nano cloaking camping and become a blob warfare entity within Eve while still contradicting themselves in CAOD. They have entirely too many smack talking teenagers in space. They sit in space with 2-3 in local and whine that HYDRA won't undock, yet HYDRA has learned that when someone does decide to undock, suddnely those 2-3 turn into 20-30 in an instant and we are the lame carebears that can't fight 2 on 20 odds. A bit hypocritical maybe? They all claim to want good fights but yet resort to blob warfare with caps when the possibility of them losing something arises. HYDRA is not stupid. We will not blatantly charge into a losing battle no matter how much you try to taunt us and smack us here or in local space.

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