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Tippia
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.08.08 05:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Amateratsu
Name me 1 level 4 mission that pays out 25m per hour?
Most of them do.
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You cannot include loot, salvage, lp as they do not inject new isk into the game, the isk comes from other players trading in those resources.
…and going back aaaaall the way to page one: by that logic, moon-mining, T2 manufacturing and all that has a payout of zero, which is a lot less than the supposedly 5-10M/h of missions.
I earn 15M/h doing L4s in a battlecruiser, and every mission runner I say that too tell me that I'm giving up huge wads of cash because it's too slow… and I don't even include the LP in those 15M. So I'd say 25M/h is entirely reasonable.
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Tippia
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.08.08 08:52:00 -
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Originally by: Marshall Zhukov
You dont make that much money from level 4 agents... you can make 20 mill/ hr but most people may do that for a few hours and stop. Nobody that is in their right mind missions for 23 hour a day and many take breaks or kill time in the station/do other things.
Doesn't matter – when one quits, someone else is there to take his place. The argument isn't about single players, but about collectives. Quote:
Also there are only a few lvl 4s that pay out 20-30 mill most are around 10 mill per mission.
…and you can do a couple of those low-paying missions per hour, which still brings the payout up to 20MISK/h or more.
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Tippia
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.08.08 09:24:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 08/08/2008 09:31:07
Originally by: Mr Abbadon
I dont know what uber agents or missions ships you are in to generate 25mill/hour.
If I can make 15M/h in a battlecruiser (before LP, using a Q18 in a 0.5 system), then 25 an hour in a BS shouldn't be hard – unless, of course, you're saying that all those who say that my BC is too slow for L4s are wrong.
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Still mission reward and bonus at best is 2mill for both and you get about 5-9mill bounties. best missions for getting good isk is worlds collide and angel extravaganza but those also takes time..
Last time I did AE, I made 50mil in 3.5h… that's 14M/h, and that's including the time it took to salvage the wrecks between each room. And again, that didn't include the LP, and was for a Q-3 agent in a .9 system.*
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And as many stated i dont think many are even close to doing missions 23hrs every day.
And as many have pointed out, that's irrelevant – when one player quits, another picks up the ball.
*edit: iirc, I got somewhere around 5000 LP for that mission due to non-existing skills, low quality and high security, which means I earned another 20M for a total of 70M over 3.5h or 20M/h.
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Tippia
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.08.08 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: McDonALTs
A single agent is like saying a single piece of trit makes a titan which is 70bil.
No, it's more like saying that a single, well-stocked asteroid field makes a Titan.
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Tippia
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.08.08 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron
Also, do you even relise how bad the logic is? You want to get more cloak ravens ratting in 0.0? Oh wait, lets stop that as well by limit rats such as a few spawns a day. Lets nerf traders by limiting who many people can buy from you a day. Lets nerf PvPers by limiting how many people they can kill.
The difference is that all of those are subject to competition: someone else might come in and pop those rats, taking "your" bounty and loot; someone else might produce the same good at a lower price, taking "your" sales. This is not the case with missions. They are always there, with set rewards and no competition.
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Tippia
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.08.08 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Altpause
There is also the fact that he is using a "cheap faction fit CNR" for his model and omits the needed standings and social and other skills for this. I don't know any normal players that can reach this within 6 months without buying accounts.
I get annoyed when I see these inflated figures posted as fact.
It's not inflated. A 6-month character can certainly get that far. I did, and I spent my first time in ≡v≡ getting into a Hulk…
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