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Diamond Dog
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Posted - 2004.06.02 00:52:00 -
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Edited by: Diamond Dog on 02/06/2004 01:09:49 Edited by: Diamond Dog on 02/06/2004 00:55:01
Originally by: darth solo says at the end, "a large fair fight"... looked like a mass gank to me, sry...
as a neutral watching, it looked like u outnumbered them silly odds..
But if they JI, what can u do, hehe.
d solo
Actually more and more of them jumped in during the fight
Wasn't anything great about that except maybe coming out on top...
Was horrid lag something I wouldn't want to repeat again tbh
couldn't see anyone for 10 minutes :/
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2004.06.02 01:16:00 -
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Guys who jumped in got seriously seriously owned.
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teh pR3acH3r
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Posted - 2004.06.02 01:35:00 -
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I think these poeple dont understand that while we outnumbered them a bit, it certainly was not 328974893274923 vs 1. The video of the footage is not of course then entire battle, beginning to end. Enjoy the movie. Stop making assumptions. _________________________________ Indefinately MIA Former CEO Occassus Republica - Military Division Leader Founding members of the Venal Alliance You'll Find Religion When I Find You |
dalman
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Posted - 2004.06.02 02:29:00 -
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LOL! "my blob is bigger than your blob". Even bigger than a CA blob
Video was well done, but the fight wasn't much to see :/
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.06.02 02:35:00 -
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Nicely produced video as usual from Leafo. Not that much to see really except a huge gang of PA ships. It's to be hoped that whoever authorised jumping in on that lot learnt their rather expensive lesson!
Eve Blacklight Style
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.06.02 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sassinak Edited by: Sassinak on 01/06/2004 23:57:23 Yay go PA go PA...
Grats you managed to gank a bunch of ships while outnumbering them by like, ALOT
WHY THE **** DID ANYONE JUMP INTO THAT LMAO?
Anyone who says "yes was an awesome battle? a very good even fight" needs to be kicked in the nuts
Your all slating the leader as being an idiot, but the only mistake made was to jump into that mess in the first place putting your ships all over the gate. I would not of asked anyone to jump into that.
But yeah keep blobbing up guys, its a surefire way of getting no pvp as soon as your enemies realise its suicide to jump 20bships into 50....
Again someone who wasn't there talks like he knows everything. At first FU+COD outnumbered PA 2:1, rest of us were fighting EV+UNICOR at the same time 2 jumps north. Some of us reinforced the southern PA fleet after FU+COD started falling appart and that is when the slaughter happened.
PA vs Jade's Shoestring Alliance ratio was even, towards the end they were outnumbered only because they lost about 50% of their fleet.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Nootami
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Posted - 2004.06.02 03:53:00 -
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I love you Sassinak
Originally by: Cortex Reaver [22:39:59] [Oi]Nootami1 joined channel [22:40:02] [Oi]Nootami1 quit
Oh,look! Someone joined for a whopping .3 seconds! -CR
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Reassor
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Posted - 2004.06.02 05:09:00 -
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and teh most impresive thingy was that map shows 20 ppl in sys on every blob :) dunno if its bug or it was becose of lag ;]
but tooday was teh same ... and they for sure have better commander now becose they retreat :/
so plz CCP give more power to te north nodes :)
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Lord Wimbishi
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Posted - 2004.06.02 07:36:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Wimbishi on 02/06/2004 07:46:13 Well hear are my two cents. I was there at the fight along with many others. when it started and the gate started to flare up with activity. They jumped in with a lot of numbers. Many many ships came in. I didn't see anything for like 3 minutes and my first target was sever or something. Everything was so slow. What I did notice when we started to lock and fire half realised they were not staying to fight. they where really unorganized and undisiplined. I can only assume how frustrated that commander must have been. Of those that jumped in. once they started taking fire the individual ships just started to warp away. leaving some to fight while others kept on jumping in. it took like 20 mins for the battle to really kick off. we had over 110+ ships in system before they jumped in BUT half was at the north end or so leaving around 50-70 at P-f gate.
They had I assume all together 50-70 ships in all just wasn't coordinated enough. After a half hour to an hour later they had jumped to some spot not quite sure where. We were able to count 13-14 ships down after the first initial assault. don't know much of the fighting that went on at the other gate nor in 9-2. 20 or so minutes later they tried to rush us again from the inside while at the same started to pick off stragglers coming in the gate. That little incursion only lasted 15 min before they jumped away loosing another 6 or so ships. At our gate we speculated at least 20-30s destroyed. we lost maybe 12-15 in the entire system. I am sure more 'enemy' ships were killed elsewhere in the system though bringing up the kill tally. The fight did favor us. I will agree as we had the defensive advantage. Kudos for us . It felt good to see that many PA ships in P-f and knowing we had the other half of the fleet in 9-2 and the northern systems. The combined fleet that attacked us I will give a medal of valor though for their bravery. It was a tense but fun night and one of the largest fleet conflicts in EVE and am proud to have been apart of it. It wasn't thee largest in eve. But epic none-the-less. Cheers to PA and down with the bad guys that wants to destroy the PA
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.06.02 08:22:00 -
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Edited by: Sassinak on 02/06/2004 08:24:48
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: Sassinak Edited by: Sassinak on 01/06/2004 23:57:23 Yay go PA go PA...
Grats you managed to gank a bunch of ships while outnumbering them by like, ALOT
WHY THE **** DID ANYONE JUMP INTO THAT LMAO?
Anyone who says "yes was an awesome battle? a very good even fight" needs to be kicked in the nuts
Your all slating the leader as being an idiot, but the only mistake made was to jump into that mess in the first place putting your ships all over the gate. I would not of asked anyone to jump into that.
But yeah keep blobbing up guys, its a surefire way of getting no pvp as soon as your enemies realise its suicide to jump 20bships into 50....
Again someone who wasn't there talks like he knows everything. At first FU+COD outnumbered PA 2:1, rest of us were fighting EV+UNICOR at the same time 2 jumps north. Some of us reinforced the southern PA fleet after FU+COD started falling appart and that is when the slaughter happened.
PA vs Jade's Shoestring Alliance ratio was even, towards the end they were outnumbered only because they lost about 50% of their fleet.
lmao, yeah... looked totally even to me, props, you beat **** out of em, oh wait you had vastly more ships, no props
Quote: and teh most impresive thingy was that map shows 20 ppl in sys on every blob :) dunno if its bug or it was becose of lag ;]
but tooday was teh same ... and they for sure have better commander now becose they retreat :/
so plz CCP give more power to te north nodes :)
Yeah, whatever that map computer is smoking, is good stuff
We managed to get the nodes boosted or whatever when we were in fountain for the first time, just start a thread and everyone involved in the fighting moan on it till they sort it
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.06.02 08:32:00 -
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Edited by: Presidio on 02/06/2004 08:34:17
Originally by: Sassinak
lmao, yeah... looked totally even to me, props, you beat **** out of em, oh wait you had vastly more ships, no props
And you know this by watching the fight from 50 jumps out or because you saw last 10 minutes of a 60 minute battle by watching that video? -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Lowa
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Posted - 2004.06.02 08:36:00 -
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PLEASE PEOPLE! I HUMBLY ASK YOU NOT TO JUMP TO ANY CONCLUSIONS ON THIS! And this applies to both sides here. If you need to talk about numbers, strategies or what ever you like to flame about dont do it here, I've seen several other threads suitable for that.
Comments on the movie are welcome but keep it on a more technical level, not political!
We are not trying to prove anything! Leafo gave you all a movie coz somebody asked for it. Nothing more! Now lean back, turn off your cellphones, get some popcorn, stfu and watch the film!
Regards, LOWA
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2004.06.02 08:39:00 -
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maybe mobile warp disrupturs next time
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.06.02 08:40:00 -
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ok I will STFU -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Acks
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Posted - 2004.06.02 09:04:00 -
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Man nice video awesome choice in music I loved it.
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Blizzaro
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Posted - 2004.06.02 09:54:00 -
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Nice vid
I name that day:
The memorial day massache
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Kane Jacobs
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Posted - 2004.06.02 13:49:00 -
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Leafo "Coppola" strikes again !
Awesome work mate considering lag and how fast you put this masterpiece together..
I like to believe that if I stay close to you I got a shot at hollywood... _______________________________________________
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Leno
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Posted - 2004.06.02 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: LLeBRing awesome video
you can use virtualdub to speed up the frame rate, makes it look nice and smooth, but its a good representation of the lag
oh and it was an absolute gank fest... the video was not one sided cause their quite literally was not much of the other side. You guys got absolutely owned. Complete and utter, I don't want to say it, but whoever was in charge of your fleet needs a good kick in the ol wacker
who was the leader of the JPA alliance fleet? (Jade Puppet Alliance)
u know i dont really wanna troll, but i would not be bragging about winning a battle where saying u trippled the other guys is an understatement... ---------------
RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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UndergrounD
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Posted - 2004.06.02 14:08:00 -
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Edited by: UndergrounD on 02/06/2004 14:10:08 I'll admit it was impressive when I jumped into that lot.
YOu did a pretty good job capturing the frame rate that you did, well done.
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Koda
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Posted - 2004.06.02 14:22:00 -
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Edited by: Koda on 02/06/2004 14:26:14 From someone who was there:
On the way up, we got reports of the PA force in P-F fluctuating between 80-100. When we arrived it was about 80-50 (130+ in local).
I think the system topped out over 150 people in local with reinforcements showing up probably from both sides.
I was part of a ragtag group of 18 survivors camped in the system after the main battle was over. and we looked like we'd been through a war (several pods, most ships with varying degrees of armor/structure damage).
It was a good fight, the larger force won. Respect to all involved. Can we please enjoy the movie without flaming?
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.06.02 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 02/06/2004 14:43:48 Who lead the Anti-PA fleet?
Who organised and ordered that attack?
Who is willing to admit they have an IQ less than 75?
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slip66
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Posted - 2004.06.02 14:44:00 -
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WOOT! nice vid nic job of rallying troops PA, show them again what happens whne you attack a allience.
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.06.02 14:45:00 -
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Let me just put some things right.
Great video, enjoyed very very much.
but.
At the start of the fight, we numbered about 35-40, mostly battleships.
The gate lit up like a christmas tree. The hostiles (JPA) jumpd in. I was down to 18% structure without even being able to see anyone. None of the allied forces (PA) could see anyone.
i warped out, and then warped back in, that took about 3 minutes as the lagg was ridiculous. When i got back, I could see all.
The numbers were pretty much equal at that point, and the allied fleet commanders were concentrating fire on selcted targets. They (JPA) on the other hand were far more disorganised. Many ships warping in and out, and leaving gradually less and less numbers at the gate. You can see via the screenshots in that vid the amount of hostile cargo cans.
The fleet commanders sent gank squads to the sun and the planets, and picked off the many hostile forces that were constantly running to and fro the gate. At this point a lot of re inforcements from the 266 battle were arriving, that is about when the video starts.
Initially in the P-F battle, The PA were roughly equal numbers with the JPA, maybe slightly more ships, but certainly not as that vid makes it look. If you were not there, don't comment.
Props to EVERYONE that took part, was best day Eve has given me yet.
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Hellek
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Posted - 2004.06.02 14:50:00 -
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Edited by: Hellek on 02/06/2004 14:55:19
Originally by: Gan Ning Would be good if server power or something could be reallocated to certain systems as soon as they know theres gonna be an epic battle.
We once asked for that and were told that they need to know it 1 or 2 weeks in advance. Not very helpful, or did you know that there will be a big battle in P-F (and exactly that system, not H-PA or somewhere else) 2 weeks ago?
Anyway, good movie, unfortunately I missed the fight.
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N'Fran D'Larn
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Posted - 2004.06.02 15:36:00 -
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Sure, it's propogande, but it's also a fine example of creativity.
Loved the Vid! Keep making them
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magickangaroo
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Posted - 2004.06.03 03:15:00 -
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hiya
loved the vid was pretty kewl. i was there when it all kicked off. however my frame rate slowed to about 3-4 a minute. i noticed you didnt show the bits when they surged thru the gates, and the lag was worse. so i wanted to know was teh video from that point unusable due to lag? and how hard were u hit?
thanks magick
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Leafo
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Posted - 2004.06.03 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: magickangaroo hiya
loved the vid was pretty kewl. i was there when it all kicked off. however my frame rate slowed to about 3-4 a minute. i noticed you didnt show the bits when they surged thru the gates, and the lag was worse. so i wanted to know was teh video from that point unusable due to lag? and how hard were u hit?
thanks magick
Thanks!
The reason that the vid starts about in the middle of the battle is just as you mentioned, lag. When the attackers first jumped in I didn't see any targets at all. My wingmen called targets and fired but I still didn't see any ships...got unpaitent and warped out and back. When I came back I only saw my ship and a flashing stargate, no ships at all! Warped out again and relogged.
After this I got ships on my screen 1-2minutes after I warped in (like 30 min - 1hr later). At this time the largest part of the agressors had been destroyed and it's here the movie starts.
I would have liked to record the whole battle but it was difficult without anything to point the camera at.
//Leafo
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Lorgoth
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Posted - 2004.06.03 12:07:00 -
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Nice vid, good music and i saw my ship there too ;)
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.06.04 11:28:00 -
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:)
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Koda
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Posted - 2004.06.04 14:28:00 -
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Edited by: Koda on 04/06/2004 14:29:49 Finally saw the video, great work considering the horrendous lag.
My wife, Jael was one of the first featured targets.
And the music? Old school Rob. Gotta love it.
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