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RhajKa	Posted - 2008.08.10 04:05:00 - [1] 1
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.08.10 15:28:00 - [2] Well, your sermons are more concise than Archbishop's, at least. ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander Asuka Smith > not even goons can make 30m ISK this interesting.
Karanth Gallente Eve's Brothers of Destiny FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.08.10 16:07:00 - [3] Missing the point, Andreus, you manage that often, but the entire thread? How do you manage that trick? Warp Speed skill needed!
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.08.10 17:58:00 - [4] Karanth, you really need to get your head around this subtle thing the rest of the human race likes to call "humour". - Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.08.10 18:36:00 - [5] Originally by: Stitcher Karanth, you really need to get your head around this subtle thing the rest of the human race likes to call "humour". Humour? You think she'll be able to understand humour if she can't even understand sarcasm? ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander Asuka Smith > not even goons can make 30m ISK this interesting.
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.08.10 20:51:00 - [6] Baby steps, Andreus. You've got to crawl before you can walk... or in Karanth's case, suck your own feet before you can crawl. - Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
RhajKa	Posted - 2008.08.10 22:31:00 - [7] Edited by: RhajKa on 10/08/2008 22:32:06 Edited by: RhajKa on 10/08/2008 22:31:23 Part 2 Today, the largest body of the faithful of God is under siege by damnable heresies from the faith once delivered. The three great heresies of our time can be difined as thus: One - Anti-Reclaimation - the gradual drift from the Missionary work of teh Holy Reclaiming - having bcome more prevalent in recent years as the faithful have come across more technolodgy advanced peoples but yet unenlightened - many of the faithful have wavered but perserverence must be our by word here. Two - Anti-Slavery - A false belief that enlightenment can just be given and accepted and not earned - this has led to many great Ammar Capsuleers to question there faith when they see the power and strength, but not the truth, of other civilisations. Slavery is also twisted by the heretic as a cruel, materialistic inforcement, but the heretic refuses to discuss the wonderful benefits to the sould and how, once enlightened the the slave becomes the master of their holy destiny. Three - Arguments against The Emperor representing the Holiness of God here in the Universe - this has manifested itself in the questioning of the most recent Emperor ascending her rightful place on the throne and confusing Tradition with Dogma. Ammarians have always been warned of destructive and blasphemous doctrines being brought into the religion : But there were always false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you nowe, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. The true prophets have always warned us, down the ages, that the heretic will exploit you with deceptive words. "The Lord gave our Emperor the power to harness the Good and punish the Evil. Ever since, the Emperor has lived the lives of his subjects and breathed the air of authority." -The Scriptures, Book I. and again "Here we are. This is the world of God. We are his chosen ones. This place, this planet of peace and abundance, he made for us. It's ours for the taking. There will be obstacles and difficulties. That's his test. We must make his gift deserving. This beginning. This birth of life. This dawn of greatness. We can not fail, for we have the Emperor to lead us and destiny to follow. -The Scriptures. Second Letter of St. Junip of Aerui. It is important for us to study our scriptures closely because they show us in a general way that traitors will come from within and subvert many in following their evil ways. These traitors to the faith are not led by their intention for the good of the Empire as were those God inspired to be prophets. The prophets warn that these "false teachers" will come from within the faith The implication is that "forewarned is forearmed"! Therefore, be on guard! These heresies will seem to provide something we consider very desirable for our well-being. But all the while the liberties they promise in their false teachings will be so destructive that they only serve to deny enlightenment. We find that the false teachers are themselves driven by covetousness. They desire to get something for themselvesùpower over people, possibly the perception of being a scholar, maybe popularity or money. With that motivation, they prove that God does not lead them. Why are false teachings so deserving of condemnation? False teaching perverts the direction and outcome of our lives, unless we reject or repent of it, if we had once accepted it. On the other hand, possessing true doctrines and beliefs is of exceeding importance because what a person believes determines their attitude and conduct. Right thoughts precede right actions. Thus, a heretic is a man who believes what he wishes to believe instead of accepting the truth of God that he ought to believe. The Real Source of Heresy From the Scriptures point of view
RhajKa	Posted - 2008.08.10 22:33:00 - [8] Part 3 Heresy is not always easily detected because the Heretic usually camouflages the lie with a large measure of truth. He is a master of deceit. Because the universe is so ignorant of God, the Heretic can tell them virtually anything, and they will believe it. But with the Ammar Faithful he generally does not directly challenge or obviously and blatantly misquote Scripture. He subtly twists the intent of a scripture to bend it into a wrong application or understanding. At other times, he will appeal to our vanity to get us to react to his suggestions without thinking. However, do not be fooled that so few doctrines are directly mentioned with the word "heresy" attached. The heretic will attack the people of God in any spiritual area. Heresy and Apostasy Some think that, when someone accepts heresy, he will "leave the church." That may occur on some occasions, but this confuses hairesis with apostasia. Apostasia means, "to depart from truth"! One can remain in an organization and be departing from truth all along. This is vitally important to us living the Reclaiming When the heretic detects they were wavering, the key to the heretic is getting a faithful person to doubt. It removes conviction and replaces it with uncertainty. Doubt stifles courage and promotes fear. This is why the liberal mind of man is not subject to the law of God. Through his ministers' false teaching, the heretic will make every effort to deceive people to break God's laws. From what has occurred within the church of God, we can see how the heretic has attacked and continues to attack through heresy. First, the heretic inspires a steady stream of small changes called "adjustments," "clarifications" or "refinements" to revealed and established doctrines. Several of these may slip by without notice, but the overall effect will be to begin to cast doubt on what was previously believed. Careful and disciplined submission to God will begin to slacken as people become uncertain about what is right. For a member who is becoming aware of the threatening nature of the "refinements," this is a critical juncture. He may either opt to scrutinize the changes more closely or to ignore them. At this point the heretic's ministers may "adjust" a fairly important doctrine to test the reaction of the membership. The doctrine may not be critical to salvation, but may nonetheless shed important light on the process. Second, he inspires his ministers to make a "refinement" to the overall message of God. Second, he moves to obscure the nature of God. This, combined with altering God's purpose, will cast a member into deep confusion about how he is supposed to conduct his life. When they are made at the end of an extremely long, rapid-fire sermon. In the cold light of reality, these changes would make God look bad. Some members would question why these doctrines had never been adequately explained before. Others would wonder why God had not been powerful enough or cared enough to institute them before. Instead, they would reason, He had allowed His church to suffer for generations without these wonderful teachings. But the Heretic lays the blame on the shoulders of the former administration, which was not nearly as "scholarly" or "understanding" as the present one. I leave you with the words of Scripture: "For forty millenniums we struggled in the desert. Time of infinity to grief our misgivings. Time of eternity to stray without God's guidance. One can repent and pray for forgiveness. But true meekness is one that has penetrated and laid its roots in the very heart of a man. The stars above will not weep for us parting. The air we breathe won't notice our disappearance. The dirt of the earth will embrace our decadence. Only in God can we thrive and grow. Only God." -The Scriptures. Kuria 4:23. Your most humble and lowly of servants Rahj Ka
Karanth Gallente Eve's Brothers of Destiny FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.08.11 00:38:00 - [9] Since when does playful banter warrant a double-teaming? I swear, you two must be sharing pod-goo the way you hang off each other. Nothing wrong with that, but for the sake of all your fans, be honest about things. Warp Speed skill needed!
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.08.11 00:57:00 - [10] Whatever thoughts keep you warm at night, I guess. Though as it happens, I'm not romantically interested in anybody, of any gender, bloodline or age. The whole reflex got smeared across some distant, forgotten corner of the sky a couple of years back, along with my birth body. - Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.

Aria Jenneth Caldari Ghost Festival	Posted - 2008.08.11 01:24:00 - [11] Verin? ... That's ... very odd. No, I'd go so far as to say that it has to be psychosomatic or otherwise psychological. Related to hormone generation and bits of biochemistry that are tweaked by, rather than generated through, mnemonic structures, as I understand it ... ... it shouldn't be possible for your sex drive to be one of the bits that gets entropically "lost" in transfer. It ... should be part of the clone, mostly, not the infomorph. Unless there's some quirk you've picked up that's blocking it? It would make sense in terms of shedding a largely vestigal urge (it's not like most infomorph females are even fertile, what with never passing through the stage of growth where our ovaries would be stocked with eggs), but that would be assuming that we're becoming "other" in a very clear-cut, holovid-friendly way. And we're not, surely-- I mean, I believe the line is there, but.... Gods and spirits. Verin, have you spoken to a psychologist about this? Maybe it's a coping mechanism? Ghost Festival is recruiting!
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.08.11 10:13:00 - [12] Edited by: Stitcher on 11/08/2008 10:14:45 To be fair, any man who's still unmarried and childless at the age of fourty-three could reasonably be classified as asexual to begin with, and emotional asexuality is present in a small percentage of humans anyway. As a matter of fact, the percentage instance of asexual tendencies among civire males is known to be about 50% higher than the universal human average (Probably because most of us are ugly as sin). I've never really given it much thought before. Guess I must fall into that bracket. You're probably quite right, having the last vestiges knocked out of me in my first podding probably WAS a psychosomatic response, but it's not one I particularly care about getting repaired. I "was married to the force", as the old saw goes. Ishukone Watch trauma surgeon for my entire career, and the only time I ever considered an alternative was the day I found out I was eligible for capsule training, so it's not like I'm missing anything that I had before. Don't get me wrong: The physical mechanisms still work, and over the last year or so I've had a couple of groupies who managed to talk me into it... but it's always been a case of them persuading me, not a seduction. I just have no emotional desire for companionship. - Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.08.11 16:08:00 - [13] Originally by: Karanth Since when does playful banter warrant a double-teaming? I swear, you two must be sharing pod-goo the way you hang off each other. Nothing wrong with that, but for the sake of all your fans, be honest about things. Right, because me and Stitcher are on opposing sides of a war, and have similar (negative) views on you, we must have a super-super-secret sexual attraction to one another. Woman, when did the IGS become a first-year academy breakroom? I've never denied that I sleep with men, and in fact at one point I announced this very fact on the IGS when I found a boyfriend, although I admit that was more to irritate the Amarrians than anything else. However, I find your insinuation that I'm sleeping with Stitcher simply because we both agree on something that you happen to dislike incredibly childish at best. But wait, I can't be sleeping with Stitcher because I agree with Evanda Char about the Minmatar having a right to freedom! If Evanda knew I was wink-wink nudge-nudge "agreeing" with someone else, she'd kill me! OH, WAIT. I can't be sleeping with Stitcher OR Evanda, because I agree with President Foiritan! Just wait for the headlines! "PRESIDENT FOIRITAN IN SEX SCANDAL WITH MIXED METAPHOR CEO!". I guess that answers everyone's questions about how I get all the tax breaks for my corporation right? Oh, no, wait. I've got the perfect one. I tell you what - Thorradin is violently patriotic and wants to see his enemy's entire culture burn to the ground and every servant of it die horribly, so you must be sleeping with him. Disagreeing with you is common sense, you backwashed mentalist. You remind me of how I was when I was less moderate, and to be honest it's kind of embarassing. Though I still believe very strongly in the Federation, I no longer see the need to wreak untold collateral damage in the name of "freedom", and I'd rather speak peace with the Caldari (hence my friend Stitcher) than war, and I'd rather rid the universe of pirates than I would of State-loyal pod pilots. Does that make me unclean in your eyes? Get over yourself. ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander Asuka Smith > not even goons can make 30m ISK this interesting.
Kimochi Rendar Ghost Festival	Posted - 2008.08.11 20:03:00 - [14] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Right, because me and Stitcher are on opposing sides of a war, and have similar (negative) views on you, we must have a super-super-secret sexual attraction to one another. Kimochi appears in a live feed window. She's grinning. Ooooh, sounds like someone hit a nerve... are you absolutely sure you don't have a 'thing' for Mr. Stitcher, Andreus? Maybe you are deluding yourself into thinking you don't lust after him when actually you do? She winks playfully and closes the feed, giggling. Ghost Festival is now recruiting!
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.08.11 21:06:00 - [15] I'm sure. I just like to be as insulting to Karanth's intelligence as possible, and I just generally like making loud, elaborate tirades over small, inconsequent issues. And big, relevant issues too, but that's another matter. And Karanth has a lot of issues. ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander Asuka Smith > not even goons can make 30m ISK this interesting.
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.08.12 02:19:00 - [16] Edited by: Stitcher on 12/08/2008 02:19:47 Originally by: Andreus Ixiris And Karanth has a lot of issues. All of them small, and inconsequential. Anyway, where were we before all this talk of our forbidden homosexual love affair came along? - Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Faraelle Brightman Gallente Placid Reborn	Posted - 2008.08.12 02:51:00 - [17] Double teaming Karanth for her apparent lack of getting the joke? Maybe best to give this up as a lost cause since the author (who's officaly not "shorter than Archbishop") started a new thread.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.08.12 04:56:00 - [18] Edited by: Andreus Ixiris on 12/08/2008 04:57:04 Originally by: Stitcher Anyway, where were we before all this talk of our forbidden homosexual love affair came along? Double-teaming Karanth, apparently. No sexual conotations there. No sir. (Out of interest, does Caldari law and/or social custom prohibit homosexuality? I dated a Caldari man once, but he was a pirate and thus had pretty much no regard for the laws and social customs of anyone, least of all the State) ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander Asuka Smith > not even goons can make 30m ISK this interesting.
Veron Daerth Amarr Blood Meridian	Posted - 2008.08.12 06:02:00 - [19] ((As far as I know, there is no law prohibiting same sex relations in any of the Empires. I think there was a discussion about it in one of the Library forums.))
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.08.12 09:56:00 - [20] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Double-teaming Karanth, apparently. No sexual conotations there. No sir. (Out of interest, does Caldari law and/or social custom prohibit homosexuality? I dated a Caldari man once, but he was a pirate and thus had pretty much no regard for the laws and social customs of anyone, least of all the State) While it's not actually illegal, it is slightly taboo. Openly gay citizens of either gender tend to get passed up for promotion, and in the past, same-sex liaisons between ranking executives have been the root cause of some minor scandals. It's officially tolerated, but not culturally. - Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.

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