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Roc Wieler
Freeform Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.13 14:03:00 -
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I finally saw this "EVE downtime madness" application so I excitedly downloaded it. So a handy loading screen pops up, with a loading bar, and a sliver of loading, then nothing ... for a looooong time. CTRL+ALT+DEL/end process.
This occured on three attempts of running it.
Win XP SP3
"Never start a fight you can win." - Roc Wieler |
mentalmonkey
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.08.13 14:06:00 -
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Give it time, close other apps, it just takes a while to open.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.08.13 14:17:00 -
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Geez, you better fit some Tarminic Hardeners before he posts...
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Roc Wieler
Freeform Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.13 14:19:00 -
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Seriously, I waited about 13 minutes this time before I gave up. Pentium Quad Core system here at work (shhhh), so I don't think it should take that long.
"Never start a fight you can win." - Roc Wieler |
Admiral Pelleon
Caldari
White Shadow Imperium
Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2008.08.13 14:19:00 -
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Oh you've really done it now.
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Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.08.13 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Tamia Clant on 13/08/2008 14:20:18
 Originally by: Roc Wieler
So a handy loading screen pops up, with a loading bar, and a sliver of loading, then nothing ... for a looooong time.
It's a simulation of lagged fleet battles.
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GallenteCitizen20080615
Gallente
Federation War News
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Posted - 2008.08.13 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tamia Clant
Edited by: Tamia Clant on 13/08/2008 14:20:18
Originally by: Roc Wieler
So a handy loading screen pops up, with a loading bar, and a sliver of loading, then nothing ... for a looooong time.
It's a simulation of lagged fleet battles.
win of the day 
Quote:
down near the station bio mass plant you can buy burgers that are 5% pork and 95% CRAP
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.13 14:41:00 -
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Unfortunately, GameMaker, as a development platform, appears to use some kind of arcane algorithms for almost everything from loading to collision detection (possibly BubbleSort). In addition I've created the game using the non-professional (free) version of gamemaker, forcing me to use more memory-intensive methods for rotating sprites than I would have liked (A painfully large part of that loading screen is battleship sprites  ).
I even downloaded a cracked version of the professional GameMaker but it stop working after one use. 
Basically, it just takes a damn long time to load, and there's not much I can do about it - it's enough an issue that it's forced me to reconsider the scale of the game and rethink how I've been developing it entirely. It also doesn't help that using GameMaker, while speeding up the development process, makes it hard for me to debug lower-level issues and optimize the code properly.
TL;DR:
It just take a long time to load and there's not much I can do about it.
The bright side is that I still plan to, if not finish the game in it's current state, rewrite it in a real programming language as part of a year long school project.
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Mu Yaling
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.13 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Unfortunately, GameMaker, as a development platform, appears to use some kind of arcane algorithms for almost everything from loading to collision detection (possibly BubbleSort). In addition I've created the game using the non-professional (free) version of gamemaker, forcing me to use more memory-intensive methods for rotating sprites than I would have liked (A painfully large part of that loading screen is battleship sprites ).
I even downloaded a cracked version of the professional GameMaker but it stop working after one use.
Basically, it just takes a damn long time to load, and there's not much I can do about it - it's enough an issue that it's forced me to reconsider the scale of the game and rethink how I've been developing it entirely. It also doesn't help that using GameMaker, while speeding up the development process, makes it hard for me to debug lower-level issues and optimize the code properly.
TL;DR:
It just take a long time to load and there's not much I can do about it.
The bright side is that I still plan to, if not finish the game in it's current state, rewrite it in a real programming language as part of a year long school project.
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Dr Slaughter
Minmatar
Rabies Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.13 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
rewrite it in a real programming language
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.13 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Slaughter
Originally by: Tarminic
rewrite it in a real programming language
What like Stackless Python.. ?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.08.13 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: GallenteCitizen20080615
Originally by: Tamia Clant
Edited by: Tamia Clant on 13/08/2008 14:20:18
Originally by: Roc Wieler
So a handy loading screen pops up, with a loading bar, and a sliver of loading, then nothing ... for a looooong time.
It's a simulation of lagged fleet battles.
win of the day
Yeah, the game has 100% Eve realism.  |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.08.13 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Unfortunately, GameMaker, as a development platform, appears to use some kind of arcane algorithms for almost everything from loading to collision detection (possibly BubbleSort). In addition I've created the game using the non-professional (free) version of gamemaker, forcing me to use more memory-intensive methods for rotating sprites than I would have liked (A painfully large part of that loading screen is battleship sprites ).
I even downloaded a cracked version of the professional GameMaker but it stop working after one use.
Basically, it just takes a damn long time to load, and there's not much I can do about it - it's enough an issue that it's forced me to reconsider the scale of the game and rethink how I've been developing it entirely. It also doesn't help that using GameMaker, while speeding up the development process, makes it hard for me to debug lower-level issues and optimize the code properly.
TL;DR:
It just take a long time to load and there's not much I can do about it.
The bright side is that I still plan to, if not finish the game in it's current state, rewrite it in a real programming language as part of a year long school project.
hey how much does it cost? is it pay once only?
I did just win a ton of money :P
Originally by: Dapanman1
Terrible idea, you're an idiot
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sg3s
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.13 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Unfortunately, GameMaker, as a development platform, appears to use some kind of arcane algorithms for almost everything from loading to collision detection (possibly BubbleSort). In addition I've created the game using the non-professional (free) version of gamemaker, forcing me to use more memory-intensive methods for rotating sprites than I would have liked (A painfully large part of that loading screen is battleship sprites ).
I even downloaded a cracked version of the professional GameMaker but it stop working after one use.
Basically, it just takes a damn long time to load, and there's not much I can do about it - it's enough an issue that it's forced me to reconsider the scale of the game and rethink how I've been developing it entirely. It also doesn't help that using GameMaker, while speeding up the development process, makes it hard for me to debug lower-level issues and optimize the code properly.
TL;DR:
It just take a long time to load and there's not much I can do about it.
The bright side is that I still plan to, if not finish the game in it's current state, rewrite it in a real programming language as part of a year long school project.
You used... GameMaker? I now hate you.
Originally by: Tarminic
Because even when EVE sucks, it sucks less than every other MMO out there.
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Mazaron
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Posted - 2008.08.13 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Roc Wieler
Pentium Quad Core
You just made many, many IT practitioners reading this forum rage.
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BiggestT
Caldari
Space Oddysey
Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.08.13 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Roc Wieler
Seriously, I waited about 13 minutes this time before I gave up. Pentium Quad Core system here at work (shhhh), so I don't think it should take that long.
wow the same thing has been happeining to me..
And i thought AVG was actually not-invincable and hat missed some virus in my system..
Im sorry for ever doubting u avg.
ITS EVES FAULT 
poudly annoying fc's since 2007
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=828123
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.13 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: sg3s
You used... GameMaker? I now hate you.
If it's any comfort, I hate myself too. I'll publish my terribly-written poems as soon as I finish listening to Evanescence and Dashboard Confessional.
Originally by: MotherMoon
hey how much does it cost? is it pay once only?
I did just win a ton of money :P
Pricing information on it is at http://www.yoyogames.com. I think it's something like $20 for a full version. I even had a registered version at some point but their customer support hates me.
It's not bad for making small games and it's easy for someone without much of a programming background to learn, but It just doesn't scale well, unfortunately.
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Karentaki
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.08.13 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: Karentaki on 13/08/2008 16:36:49
Originally by: Tarminic
Unfortunately, GameMaker, as a development platform, appears to use some kind of arcane algorithms for almost everything from loading to collision detection (possibly BubbleSort). In addition I've created the game using the non-professional (free) version of gamemaker, forcing me to use more memory-intensive methods for rotating sprites than I would have liked (A painfully large part of that loading screen is battleship sprites ).
I even downloaded a cracked version of the professional GameMaker but it stop working after one use.
Basically, it just takes a damn long time to load, and there's not much I can do about it - it's enough an issue that it's forced me to reconsider the scale of the game and rethink how I've been developing it entirely. It also doesn't help that using GameMaker, while speeding up the development process, makes it hard for me to debug lower-level issues and optimize the code properly.
TL;DR:
It just take a long time to load and there's not much I can do about it.
The bright side is that I still plan to, if not finish the game in it's current state, rewrite it in a real programming language as part of a year long school project.
Ever considered using Flash? I started off using a 'Free' Proffesional version of game maker and it was good for learning, but now I've learned how to use flash MX, and I prefer it for lots of reasons. Graphics are easier and MUCH nicer looking on flash. The code is faster (usually). You can imbed games onto a site. etc...
It takes a while to learn to use it well, but it's well worth it in the long run. After under a year of using it (properly) I am now writing a quite advanced 2D physics engine, si it can't be too hard to pick up. 
[Edited for grammer]
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RE: The suicide nerf
Originally by: agent apple
I believe I can safely speak for many of us when I say,
Dear Devs, Go Back to WOW
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Roc Wieler
Freeform Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.13 17:33:00 -
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That's the irony in my post I suppose. I am a Flash Developer of 14 years now (since the beginning before it HAD code). I also do 3D, video, and music/sound production.
Anywho, when I finally got the game to work (yay for that), I was thinking to myself "This could be soooo much better in Flash".
If I had ANY spare time (aside from EVE of course), I might consider making an EVE type Flash game for downtime. Hmmm, I just had an idea. Maybe I will have to look into it. So much for sleep.
"Never start a fight you can win." - Roc Wieler |
Roc Wieler
Freeform Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.13 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Mazaron
Originally by: Roc Wieler
Pentium Quad Core
You just made many, many IT practitioners reading this forum rage.
I am actually quite lucky. It was part of my negotiation when I started here. Our IT recently did performance testing on a sampling of computers throughout the company. They took about 300 samples. The highest (other than mine), scored 660. Mine scored 866. So I guess it's pretty good. Wish I had it at home to be honest.
"Never start a fight you can win." - Roc Wieler |
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Caiman Graystock
Quantum of Solace
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Posted - 2008.08.13 21:19:00 -
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.13 21:21:00 -
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Tarminic makes me sad also
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.13 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Tarminic makes me sad also
I suspect I have made many posters sad over the years.
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Cailais
Amarr
VITOC
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Posted - 2008.08.13 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Tarminic makes me sad also
I suspect I have made many posters mad over the years.
fixed.
C.
Originally by: Tarminic
Your continued whining is somewhat diminished by your continued willingness to give your money to CCP.
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Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.08.13 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: Roc Wieler
Originally by: Mazaron
Originally by: Roc Wieler
Pentium Quad Core
You just made many, many IT practitioners reading this forum rage.
I am actually quite lucky. It was part of my negotiation when I started here. Our IT recently did performance testing on a sampling of computers throughout the company. They took about 300 samples. The highest (other than mine), scored 660. Mine scored 866. So I guess it's pretty good. Wish I had it at home to be honest.
I think the rage would come from you calling it a 'Pentium' when Intel has long stopped using that name, not from the fact that you have a quad-core processor.
I could be wrong, though.
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