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Nuuskur
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Posted - 2008.08.17 08:48:00 -
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Does CCP even have the stats for that? How many poor guristas, angels, blood raiders, serpentis and sanshas lose their lives to the war of elimination waged against them by the genocidal pod-pilots? How many millions or even billions of lives are lost every day because of the ethnic cleansing, disguised as upholding the law, done by the rich and famous of Eve?
When will it stop 
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Nuuskur
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Posted - 2008.08.17 08:48:00 -
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Does CCP even have the stats for that? How many poor guristas, angels, blood raiders, serpentis and sanshas lose their lives to the war of elimination waged against them by the genocidal pod-pilots? How many millions or even billions of lives are lost every day because of the ethnic cleansing, disguised as upholding the law, done by the rich and famous of Eve?
When will it stop 
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Locke DieDrake
Human Information Virus
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Posted - 2008.08.17 09:05:00 -
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Open map Filter for pirate and police destroyed.
Now you know.
It's lots. ______________________________________________ Goon FC(08/12/06):"its a trap" "that thing is fully operational" |

Locke DieDrake
Human Information Virus
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Posted - 2008.08.17 09:05:00 -
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Open map Filter for pirate and police destroyed.
Now you know.
It's lots. ______________________________________________ Goon FC(08/12/06):"its a trap" "that thing is fully operational" |

Jeremy Paxman
Special Doc
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Posted - 2008.08.17 09:14:00 -
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More importantly, why is it called "Ratting" ? -------------------- In Soviet Cornwall, cows tip you. |

Jeremy Paxman
Special Doc
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Posted - 2008.08.17 09:14:00 -
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More importantly, why is it called "Ratting" ? -------------------- In Soviet Cornwall, cows tip you. |

Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2008.08.17 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jeremy Paxman More importantly, why is it called "Ratting" ?
it's either from an abbreviated form of pirate pi rat e or cause usually the first thing you have to kill in a rpg is a rat.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2008.08.17 09:24:00 -
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If I should belive the API exports, either around 136K or 272K average per day.
136K sounds resonable, that would render down to an average of 25 or so per system/day. Lets play find Chribba's image! Hint: It's somewhere in this text! Hugs and Kisses! ~Saint |

Par'Gellen
Tres Hombres
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Posted - 2008.08.17 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba If I should belive the API exports, either around 136K or 272K average per day.
136K sounds resonable, that would render down to an average of 25 or so per system/day.
Wow! ---
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Eran Laude
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.08.17 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba If I should belive the API exports, either around 136K or 272K average per day.
136K sounds resonable, that would render down to an average of 25 or so per system/day.
Well for example in the last 24 hours, Agrallarier alone had 36000 or so NPC deaths.
It's gotta be higher than 136K, surely.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2008.08.17 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: Eran Laude Well for example in the last 24 hours, Agrallarier alone had 36000 or so NPC deaths.
It's gotta be higher than 136K, surely.
If you looked at the map I guess it's a bug. Otherwise that would mean pilots popped NPCs at a rate of 25 per minute in Agrallarier. I highly doubt that tbh. Lets play find Chribba's image! Hint: It's somewhere in this text! Hugs and Kisses! ~Saint |

Tippia
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.08.17 09:55:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 17/08/2008 09:54:51
Originally by: Chribba
Originally by: Eran Laude It's gotta be higher than 136K, surely.
If you looked at the map I guess it's a bug. Otherwise that would mean pilots popped NPCs at a rate of 25 per minute in Agrallarier. I highly doubt that tbh.
Doesn't sound entirely implausible. Agrallarier is part of the Dodixie-Aunia-Auvergne L4-grinding area, which on occasion holds a couple of hundred mission runners per system — perhaps as much as a thousan for the cluser as a whole…
All it takes is that 1/10th of those gets a mission in Agrallarier, where they need to kill one rat every four minutes, and you get those kind of numbers.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2008.08.17 10:12:00 -
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Oh ok, just sounded a bit much but then I could be wrong. Lets play find Chribba's image! Hint: It's somewhere in this text! Hugs and Kisses! ~Saint |

F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.17 10:29:00 -
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OVER 9000!
Seriously, why do you care? How many 2k rats make up for one 2000k rat before it matters?
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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SayuM
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Posted - 2008.08.17 10:31:00 -
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btw i think its called ratting because the npc are pirats... pirating would be somewhat... wrong ^^ so ratting is the word for it ;p
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Viqtoria
Caldari Groping Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.08.17 11:17:00 -
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barracks lawyers         
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.08.17 11:19:00 -
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"How many millions or even billions of lives are lost every day" Perhaps not as many as people think due to escape pods. A lot of crew get out alive. ____ Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation (www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
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Par'Gellen
Tres Hombres
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Posted - 2008.08.17 11:21:00 -
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I've always wondered why NPC's don't have pods... They must be breeding like tribbles to sustain that kind of population! ---
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.08.17 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba If I should belive the API exports, either around 136K or 272K average per day.
136K sounds resonable, that would render down to an average of 25 or so per system/day.
Are you working on a new application Chribba? Since you knew this...  ---
Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.08.17 12:58:00 -
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Edited by: Venkul Mul on 17/08/2008 13:02:55 Edited by: Venkul Mul on 17/08/2008 13:00:44
It require a lot of hypothesis but:
my combat pilots can kill easily 50 ship every hour, but usually only one of my accounts is actively killing thing, the other is hauling/mining/ecc.
There is people killing at a way higher rate, but people way slower too.
Then there is the time lost looting, reading ships and jumping around.
So I think that an average of 25 ship kill for active account each hour is reasonable.
About 25k average people on line.
Average crew for a NPC ship? Frigate 10, cruiser 100, Bs 1.000 (hi tech, so they go for relatively small crews). To keep up with people chaining rats and killing only BS let's say the kills are 3 frigates to 2 cruiser to 1 BS, so 1230 people every 6 ships, or 205 people for ship killed.
So 25 ships x 205 persons x 25.000 players x 23 hours = 2.946.875.000 on the destroyed ships.
Let's say 50% survive, so 1,5 billions dead every day.
5k solar systems, so about 25.000 billions inhabitants. 0.006% of the population, or 2,2% of the total population every year.
Pretty impressive.
Naturally total population can be higher.
WWII deaths were accounting for about 0,2-4% of Earth population each year.
We are the equivalent of the Black death.
Originally by: Gamesguy
the suicide ganking is merely an isk farming activity.
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Eran Laude
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.08.17 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul Edited by: Venkul Mul on 17/08/2008 13:00:44
It require a lot of hypothesis but:
my combat pilots can kill easily 50 ship every hour, but usually only one of my accounts is actively killing thing, the other is hauling/mining/ecc.
There is people killing at a way higher rate, but people way slower too.
Then there is the time lost looting, reading ships and jumping around.
So I think that an average of 25 ship kill for active account each hour is reasonable.
About 25k average people on line.
Average crew for a NPC ship? Frigate 10, cruiser 100, Bs 1.000 (hi tech, so they go for relatively small crews). To keep up with people chaining rats and killing only BS let's say the kills are 3 frigates to 2 cruiser to 1 BS, so 1230 people every 6 ships, or 205 people for ship killed.
So 25 ships x 205 persons x 25.000 players x 23 hours = 2.946.875.000 on the destroyed ships.
Let's say 50% survive, so 1,5 billions dead every day.
5k solar systems, so about 25.000 billions inhabitants. 0.006% of the population, or 2,2% of the total population every year.
Pretty impressive.
Naturally total population can be higher.
Assuming all that, about 2,737,500,000,000 people have died to pod pilots since 2003, or thereabouts.
For people who can't be bothered to count commas, that's 2 trillion, 737 billion and 500 million people
Ouch
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Xindi Kraid
Kraid Salvaging
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Posted - 2008.08.17 13:06:00 -
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Rats can't afford pods. They download direct to a new body when they die.
unfotunatley there is a reason alot of the rats are rookies -So says Xindi Kraid
Caveat Emptor Caveat Venditor CAVEAT |

Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.08.17 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Eran Laude
Assuming all that, about 2,737,500,000,000 people have died to pod pilots since 2003, or thereabouts.
For people who can't be bothered to count commas, that's 2 trillion, 737 billion and 500 million people
Ouch
EDIT: In other terms, that means we have destroyed the equivalent populations of 421 Earths, assuming the current population of Earth is 6.5bn.
Less, as only recently the average server population ahs become so high, but still ....
And the worst killers are the carebears.
Originally by: Gamesguy
the suicide ganking is merely an isk farming activity.
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Xindi Kraid
Kraid Salvaging
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Posted - 2008.08.17 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Eran Laude
Assuming all that, about 2,737,500,000,000 people have died to pod pilots since 2003, or thereabouts.
For people who can't be bothered to count commas, that's 2 trillion, 737 billion and 500 million people
Ouch
EDIT: In other terms, that means we have destroyed the equivalent populations of 421 Earths, assuming the current population of Earth is 6.5bn.
Less, as only recently the average server population ahs become so high, but still ....
And the worst killers are the carebears.
Is it my fault my stares are lethal to NPCs? -So says Xindi Kraid
Caveat Emptor Caveat Venditor CAVEAT |

Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.08.17 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Xindi Kraid
Is it my fault my stares are lethal to NPCs?
Wear sunglasses  |

Xindi Kraid
Kraid Salvaging
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Posted - 2008.08.17 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Xindi Kraid
Is it my fault my stares are lethal to NPCs?
Wear sunglasses 
What I need is that thing Cyclops wears.
Fashinable and I can still shoot lazorz when I feel like it |

Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.08.17 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Xindi Kraid Rats can't afford pods. They download direct to a new body when they die.
unfotunatley there is a reason alot of the rats are rookies
They dont download at all, no pod = no clone contract. All non officer npcs only live once.
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Xindi Kraid
Kraid Salvaging
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Posted - 2008.08.17 13:48:00 -
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From what I know of EvE lore the Pod is there to control the ship. For downloading into a new body all you need is proximity to a bran scanner which can be achieved w/o a pod -So says Xindi Kraid
The invincable Xindi Kraid dares youMitnal to try and vince him. |

Ankhesentapemkah
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Posted - 2008.08.17 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Doddy
Originally by: Xindi Kraid Rats can't afford pods. They download direct to a new body when they die.
unfotunatley there is a reason alot of the rats are rookies
They dont download at all, no pod = no clone contract. All non officer npcs only live once.
And no pod also means full bridge and ship crew, so the number of kills just got multiplied by at least a factor 100. ---

Thanks for all that supported me. Let me know if there's anything I can do for you.
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Xindi Kraid
Kraid Salvaging
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Posted - 2008.08.17 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: Doddy
Originally by: Xindi Kraid Rats can't afford pods. They download direct to a new body when they die.
unfotunatley there is a reason alot of the rats are rookies
They dont download at all, no pod = no clone contract. All non officer npcs only live once.
And no pod also means full bridge and ship crew, so the number of kills just got multiplied by at least a factor 100.
I have a theory about that. -So says Xindi Kraid
The invincable Xindi Kraid dares youMitnal to try and vince him. |
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