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Brom MkLeith
Epsilon Inc STORM.
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Posted - 2012.04.25 21:03:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Brom MkLeith wrote:[quote=Destiny Corrupted] It's a shame that the only thing in this game for you is for you to be able to gank people. It's a chickenshit tactic requiring little skill or bravery and it harms the general player base. People crying about the POSSIBILITY of removing non-consensual pvp from HIGH SEC sound like the punk bully who gets his lawyer Daddy to sue the school because they put him in time out for smacking other kids in the head
I don't want the bully killed. I just want to be able to fight back without the teacher taking away everything that I use to protect myself with. If you give the bully a baseball bat then let me have one as well.
Don't remove Non-consensual PVP but make it so it's not soooooo damned cheap and chicken **** to do. You say you don't want the teacher taking away everything that you use to protect yourself with, but in reality, by supporting this change you're simply asking the teacher to allow you to bring your dad to school so he can beat up that bully.
Right, I don't support removing non-consensual PVP. I even said that in my post. But I don't want to have my methods of defense constantly nerfed and the gankers given bigger clubs. Why should a ganker only have to spend 10mil isk on a ship that can take down a 200mil isk ship in under 15 seconds? The douchebags can not be the only face presented by EvE if this game wants to grow. "Oook ook! This is a sand box. Blah blah blah." They want a sandbox where they can't get sand thrown back in their faces. The gankers gameplay tactics have been completely safe and without risk in the past. We'll see what the "Inferno" really brings to the table.
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Avid Bumhumper
Furian Necromongers
56
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Posted - 2012.04.25 21:13:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:They should remove high sec. It's a scary place.
What? They unbanned Mittens spam alt already!
My Tinfoil hat has been sugically implanted, so no,it is not for sale..... |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
356
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Posted - 2012.04.25 21:19:00 -
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Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:Refer to the subject.
If you are to lazy to check again "How many Players will quit the game due to the complete removal of High-sec PVP"
Just curious.
Edit: I didn't make this thread to ***** and moan about the changes, I just wanted to see and show the amount of the playerbase that would be affected. Look, slinging poo aside, why don't you post with your main?
Just wondering is all...
Brom MkLeith wrote: Right, I don't support removing non-consensual PVP. I even said that in my post. But I don't want to have my methods of defense constantly nerfed and the gankers given bigger clubs. Why should a ganker only have to spend 10mil isk on a ship that can take down a 200mil isk ship in under 15 seconds? $25,000.00 of Hi-Explosives can bring down a multi-million dollar building... Small force, applied correctly can do wonders. But if it was me personally? I would be mining in a Rokh....
vOv
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |
MotherMoon
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
572
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Posted - 2012.04.25 21:20:00 -
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Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:Lakshata Chawla wrote:I'd say appearing red to everyone would be a boon to people that want highsec PvP. you'd have random noobs agress you. Not with their new safety switch.
lol you mean the pop up that says "you are about to commit a criminal act"
Hey, we already have that in game. they are just making it so if you click the "don't show again" button, you can turn it back on. Cry moar. |
Zyress
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2012.04.25 21:27:00 -
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I think removing capitals from lo-sec would make it a much more attractive place to go look for a fight. I don't think they will change hi-sec Pvp mechanics but I don't think most of the denizens of hi-sec would be too upset if they did. Death ray or not, if you can one shot gank someone now, you'll still be able to do it then, a death ray out of no where will just shorten the gank to a single shot affair. |
Brom MkLeith
Epsilon Inc STORM.
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Posted - 2012.04.25 21:40:00 -
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Mith'riin wrote:PvP to Highsec pirates YAARRRRRR = Can flip, suicide ganking exhumers/mining barges/that idiot in a 2b pimped tengu/that guy with an industrial in autopilot.
Get real for one time in your life, go to 0.0 and live/die there. Then you can talk about pvp and go QQQQQQ. 90% of the "Highsec" PvP players do it for griefing or iskies (And then you complain about isk/h on some aspects of the game). I'm sorry for the legit 10% that just wanted to pewpew in 1v1 duels.
Edit: Besides all of that. You NEED new players in the game. You remember me of the high level players in Lineage 2 pking all the lowbies. You NEED the game to keep getting players, else, you will end playing alone, spinning your ship in the station. Good and succesfull MMO need to catter to a wide audience. You are like the little underground emo teenagers that stop listeting to a good band because it was made "Commercial"
LOL. Nicely put. EvE can not continue to present the face of the douchebag who laughs when a new player has a hard time figuring something out. |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
34
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Posted - 2012.04.25 21:43:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:They should remove high sec. It's a scary place.
more ships and pods are killed in Jita than any one system in 0.0 in any given 24 hour period lol
Highsec is easily more dangeroud than null especially if yer a miner
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Sycho Pathic
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
33
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Posted - 2012.04.25 21:58:00 -
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Jade Scytale wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:Eve used to be 95% pvp. Now its more like 30% and falling.
TBH its to be expected. I remember playing Quake... i could fire one BFG round into a room and get 5 kills, people would say "AWESOME!"
After counter-strike came out and brought the children to the internet, you cant even get one kill with one shot (awp) without some kiddie crying and whining about it. Just so you know, that's not actually true. The human brain naturally nudges older memories to be more positive and nostalgic. It was just the same, but the longer back you look, the fewer annoyances and more positives you remember.
He's correct.
Quake was an entirely different animal. There wasn't a lot of pissing and moaning when someone got fragged in one shot. If you managed to headshot two or more with a single railgun shot, there was a lot of laughing mixed in with the smack talk.
I have no clue what happened to players like that.
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.25 22:03:00 -
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Sycho Pathic wrote:Jade Scytale wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:Eve used to be 95% pvp. Now its more like 30% and falling.
TBH its to be expected. I remember playing Quake... i could fire one BFG round into a room and get 5 kills, people would say "AWESOME!"
After counter-strike came out and brought the children to the internet, you cant even get one kill with one shot (awp) without some kiddie crying and whining about it. Just so you know, that's not actually true. The human brain naturally nudges older memories to be more positive and nostalgic. It was just the same, but the longer back you look, the fewer annoyances and more positives you remember. He's correct. Quake was an entirely different animal. There wasn't a lot of pissing and moaning when someone got fragged in one shot. If you managed to headshot two or more with a single railgun shot, there was a lot of laughing mixed in with the smack talk. I have no clue what happened to players like that.
Huh here an I thought that guy was trolling cause he was talking about Doom weapons in Quake
Also, the lack of forums back in the day limited the QQ factor considerably
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
52
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Posted - 2012.04.25 22:05:00 -
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Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:How many cowards will quit the game due to the complete removal of risk-free High-sec PVP Fixed for ya. No need to thank me. Is hiding in a fleet 10 times the size of the other not cowardly?
What about hiding behind unkillable, infallible, quasi-instakill with infinite reinforcements NPCs? What? Nothing to say? |
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Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
118
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Posted - 2012.04.25 22:17:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:[quote=Carebears Control Playerbase]Refer to the subject
If you are to lazy to check again "How many Players will quit the game due to the complete removal of High-sec PVP
Just curious
Edit: I didn't make this thread to ***** and moan about the changes, I just wanted to see and show the amount of the playerbase that would be affected.[/quote Look, slinging poo aside, why don't you post with your main
Just wondering is all.. [quote=Brom MkLeith] Right, I don't support removing non-consensual PVP. I even said that in my post. But I don't want to have my methods of defense constantly nerfed and the gankers given bigger clubs. Why should a ganker only have to spend 10mil isk on a ship that can take down a 200mil isk ship in under 15 seconds? [/quote $25,000.00 of Hi-Explosives can bring down a multi-million dollar building... Small force, applied correctly can do wonders. But if it was me personally? I would be mining in a Rokh...
vOv
That would be 1-shotting a POS or Outpost, not a ship and such is not possible in this game - due to game mechanics that prevent it. |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
359
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Posted - 2012.04.25 22:19:00 -
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Brom MkLeith wrote:Right, I don't support removing non-consensual PVP. I even said that in my post. But I don't want to have my methods of defense constantly nerfed and the gankers given bigger clubs. Why should a ganker only have to spend 10mil isk on a ship that can take down a 200mil isk ship in under 15 seconds? The douchebags can not be the only face presented by EvE if this game wants to grow. "Oook ook! This is a sand box. Blah blah blah." They want a sandbox where they can't get sand thrown back in their faces. The gankers gameplay tactics have been completely safe and without risk in the past. We'll see what the "Inferno" really brings to the table.
You forget that we were given bigger clubs right at the same time those clubs became no longer free. Also, you should blame players for the price of the Hulk, they are the ones that set it. I don't see where CCP mandated that Hulks should cost that much. Their build requirements are a Covetor, and T2 components. Blame your fellow carebears for making moon goo so expensive, because a Hulk could cost less than a hundred million ISK.
As far as what Inferno brings to the table, I can tell you that right now: we're going to find new and inventive ways to **** on the bears and make their lives living hell, and they, like one-trick ponies, will in turn continue to whine to CCP for changes out of a pure lack of self-competence. This will never change short of entirely removing our ability to put bullets into other players' hulls. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1574
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Posted - 2012.04.25 22:20:00 -
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None of the changes being made remove PVP from High Sec in any way at all. This entire thread is pointless. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1420
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Posted - 2012.04.25 22:26:00 -
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How many?
Only the ones that notice.
But hey you can always go key your neighbors car or poison his dog if you need lulz.
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
88
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Posted - 2012.04.25 22:34:00 -
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Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:Refer to the subject.
If you are to lazy to check again "How many Players will quit the game due to the complete removal of High-sec PVP"
Just curious.
Edit: I didn't make this thread to ***** and moan about the changes, I just wanted to see and show the amount of the playerbase that would be affected.
strawman... there hasn't been a complete removal of pvp in high sec. So no I will not be quitting the game...
Lame post op. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
312
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Posted - 2012.04.25 22:36:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:They should remove high sec. It's a scary place.
Who let you out of the cookiebox? You weren't expected back till your boss was back. Are you allowed to be off of your leash? |
Souvera Corvus
SPORADIC MOVEMENT
32
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Posted - 2012.04.26 03:08:00 -
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Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:How many cowards will quit the game due to the complete removal of risk-free High-sec PVP Fixed for ya. No need to thank me. Is hiding in a fleet 10 times the size of the other not cowardly?
Is can flipping cowardly?
Is nub baiting cowardly?
Is war-deccing indy corps that you know can't fight back in the hope of a quick payoff cowardly?
Just a few questions it occurred to me to ask.
Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:Edit: I didn't make this thread to ***** and moan about the changes
Yes you did. |
ELECTR0FREAK
6
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Posted - 2012.04.26 03:29:00 -
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Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:Tuirbe Tragmar wrote:Where is this complete removal of hisec PvP you seem so angsty about? It's all there, can flipping pretty much ruined, wars are (probably) going to be changed to consensual, and the mentioned instant concord death ray.
Wow. Can flipping was lame to begin with, CCP definitely talked about wars being non-consensual (dunno what you're smoking) and the CONCORD death ray was mentioned casually when discussing the problem of people getting away with exploiting flaws in CONCORD.
Posts like yours are just proof that if you really want to believe something, you will.
Discoveror of CCP's original missile damage formula. |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
228
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Posted - 2012.04.26 03:45:00 -
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Define PvP.
What mechanics would be changed ?
Your question covers too much theoretical area to give an accurate response.
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MotherMoon
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
572
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Posted - 2012.04.26 04:05:00 -
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you know what would be really boss. If high sec was regulated to battleships as the largest class.
Yeah, that's right, I said it. |
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Parsee789
Immaterial and Missing Power
81
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Posted - 2012.04.26 04:13:00 -
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Highsec wars are a complete joke with neutral alts and Concord protection.
Along with Corp Hop and Dec Shield gimmicks, the whole gameplay is nothing but pure griefing.
I am sure it won't be missed until its fixed. |
Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT Red Dawn Alliance
12
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Posted - 2012.04.26 04:22:00 -
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Killer Gandry wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:They should remove high sec. It's a scary place. Who let you out of the cookiebox? You weren't expected back till your boss was back. Are you allowed to be off of your leash?
Perhaps looking at the date of the post will help. This is a zombie thread.
Where's my shotgun when I need it!! |
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