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Flora Flynn	Posted - 2008.08.21 01:05:00 - [31] Originally by: AstroPhobic I don't get one either. Oh...right, sorry then.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.21 01:07:00 - [32] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 21/08/2008 01:11:59 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 21/08/2008 01:07:46 Originally by: Fifi LeFume [Brutix, full gank] Reactor Control Unit II Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25 Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hammerhead II x5 860 dps. What were you smoking that you had to put 3 ACR's on the brutix? a single RCU will do. 860dps, 32,500 EHP Cheaper and outganks the deimos. Nuff said, stop complaining. omfg.. what is your tank? a f'ing damage control? gtfo [Deimos, deimos] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25 Stasis Webifier II Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M [empty high slot] Ancillary Current Router I Ancillary Current Router I Hammerhead II x5 785 dps 28.345 ehp resists: 68.1%, 79.3%, 89.6%, 42.6% i'll give your brutix hmm little over a minute tops, and there's no way you're breaking through that kin therm in that amount of time, you'll go out in a blaze of glory
Fifi LeFume No Trademark Obsidian Empire	Posted - 2008.08.21 01:09:00 - [33] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 21/08/2008 01:07:46 Originally by: Fifi LeFume [Brutix, full gank] Reactor Control Unit II Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25 Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hammerhead II x5 860 dps. What were you smoking that you had to put 3 ACR's on the brutix? a single RCU will do. 860dps, 32,500 EHP Cheaper and outganks the deimos. Nuff said, stop complaining. omfg.. what is your tank? a f'ing damage control? gtfo More EHP than you'll ever get out of a deimos, so stop whining and face the facts
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.21 01:13:00 - [34] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 21/08/2008 01:15:09 Originally by: Fifi LeFume More EHP than you'll ever get out of a deimos, so stop whining and face the facts read previous reply. and check out your resists on your damage control non plated "full gank" fail brutix. try actually flying a deimos next time, before you try being a smart ass.. le sigh..
Fifi LeFume No Trademark Obsidian Empire	Posted - 2008.08.21 01:15:00 - [35] Originally by: 7shining7one7 [Deimos, deimos] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25 Stasis Webifier II Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M [empty high slot] Ancillary Current Router I Ancillary Current Router I Hammerhead II x5 785 dps 28.345 ehp resists: 68.1%, 79.3%, 89.6%, 42.6% i'll give your brutix hmm little over a minute tops, and there's no way you're breaking through that kin therm in that amount of time, you'll go out in a blaze of glory You put 2 ACR's on a deimos. and you need a cap booster to run what, your guns and web? You have no active tank why you need the cap booster is beyond me. Your deimos cost over 3 times that of my brutix. You sitll have worse overall dps and tank. You say the brutix will lose in a 1 v 1 to the deimos. you fricking think everybody else in eve flies brutix's? The first ship that hits you with explosive damage, you will drop like a fly.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.21 01:18:00 - [36] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 21/08/2008 01:21:40 dude.. now you're just an idiot tbh.. normally i would fit a expl hardener, but you can go full gank if you got logistics support. (see first page itt) secondly, your brutix.. is f'ing lol.. check it's resists.. damage control and no plate is complete and utter failure when you don't have any hardeners fitted whatsoever.. and not even trimark rigs.. it's not a buffer tank it's just made of absolute fail and has 3k more ehp than the awesome resists on the deimos.. ! what are you eft warrior of the century? you'll drop like a fly regardless WHAT hits you.. and then you can fail 3 more times and wish you had just bought a deimos instead.. the only reason you can possibly survive an engagement with that bs fit you proposed there is if nobody touches for more than 30 secs.. reasonably you can't fit a full rack of heavy neut II's on a brutix.. cause it'll be tanking vapour.. even IF you fit pg rigs to spare a low slot..
Fifi LeFume No Trademark Obsidian Empire	Posted - 2008.08.21 01:20:00 - [37] Originally by: 7shining7one7 dude.. now you're just an idiot tbh.. normally i would fit a expl hardener, but you can go full gank if you got logistics support. (see first page itt) secondly, your brutix.. is f'ing lol.. check it's resists.. you'll drop like a fly regardless WHAT hits you.. You are paying 3 times more for what is (debatable) MARGINAL performance gain. And ive flown my fair share of deimos's. Go to SHC and argue how the deimos is better than the brutix.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.21 01:26:00 - [38] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 21/08/2008 01:28:54 Originally by: Fifi LeFume Originally by: 7shining7one7 dude.. now you're just an idiot tbh.. normally i would fit a expl hardener, but you can go full gank if you got logistics support. (see first page itt) secondly, your brutix.. is f'ing lol.. check it's resists.. you'll drop like a fly regardless WHAT hits you.. You are paying 3 times more for what is (debatable) MARGINAL performance gain. And ive flown my fair share of deimos's. Go to SHC and argue how the deimos is better than the brutix. ninjaedited previous post. dear god i hope you never lead an army.. "ok folks what we need to do here is arm everyone with this huge bazooka xxxl that we can barely hold without folding to it's weight, and then ya'll stand up on this nice line and fire.. and if you miss or the enemy don't go down, then we're ****ed.. armor.. you don't need body armor for protection.. what are you talking about, that'll just weigh you down.." besides, it's not the strength of the armor that counts, only the amount of it, so if you got pretty much the same amount of armor as the enemy but the enemy has better armor, you'll still win cause you have slightly MOAR armor!
Fifi LeFume No Trademark Obsidian Empire	Posted - 2008.08.21 01:31:00 - [39] Originally by: 7shining7one7 random crap sigh Not going to argue anymore. Ive hunted many things in my deimos. And when it popped, ive always realized how a brutix could have done the job cheaper and just as well. If you are set in stone that the deimos > brutix. Then go think that
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.21 01:34:00 - [40] Originally by: Fifi LeFume Originally by: 7shining7one7 random crap sigh Not going to argue anymore. Ive hunted many things in my deimos. And when it popped, ive always realized how a brutix could have done the job cheaper and just as well. If you are set in stone that the deimos > brutix. Then go think that no i'm not saying that.. i'm just saying the fit you proposed, in order to make a fit solely based around outdamaging the deimos while neglecting every f'ing thing else.. does not work.. that fit you proposed is utter f'ing failure and you know it.. brutix is a cool ship but fitting a full rack of neut II's and still getting well off, is just not happening.. as for the question of why a cap booster? ever heard of neut's? what are you going to do with that scrawney small cap booster? and much higher cap usage, not to mention the tank which is so **** poor it'll hardly last 30 secs if a bs fires on you.. and a deimos would take you down in around a minute tops..

Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.21 07:11:00 - [41] Edited by: Grimpak on 21/08/2008 07:11:41 bah. even with all these numbers, in the end is much cooler to fly a deimos than a brutix. end of story. oh and it also maneuvers a bit better. and you peeps are comparing apples with oranges. compare it with thorax for pete's sake. and compare the brutix with an astarte.
NeoTheo Dark Materials	Posted - 2008.08.21 09:40:00 - [42] Edited by: NeoTheo on 21/08/2008 09:41:02 i am a demios pilot and frankly the ship is a lot of fun. personally i got for a full rack of ION's, web, scram, and mwd, and my lows are a 1600mmplate, 2 EANM, 2 Magstabs and a DCII. you need 2 PG rigs to make this work. its a great ship to fly however, fill her up with void/antimatter/ 5 medium ECM drones and you et a great ship. the ishtar is also wonderful, but i prefer the demo, mainly because i have jam the target with my drones and hail decent DPS on my target with the blasters. its also exciting to fly, you lock your target, head stright towards the bugger with the intent of kill or be killed, nothing quoet like it in the game. brutix's take longer to allign and are generally a bit fatter for turning and such, i would rather fly the demois, but brutix is a dam fine ship if you dont like paying the premium that comes with the demo. just wondering if with awu to 5 if i will be able to fit a remote repper on for after the fight and gang work.
Zantei	Posted - 2008.08.21 10:46:00 - [43] Originally by: Omarvelous medium ECM drones + blasters for solo work in my opinion. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ He understands

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