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Archbishop
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.22 01:42:00 -
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"The Truth Will Set You Free" series of sermons presents sermon #013 on The Failure of Freedom.
Main Entry: fail+ure
Pronunciation: \ˈfāl-yər\
Function: noun
1 a: omission of occurrence or performance; specifically : a failing to perform a duty or expected action.
2 a: lack of success b: a failing in business.
3 a: a falling short : deficiency.
4: one that has failed
My brothers and sisters today I come before you to preach about a subject many heathens would accuse me of knowing little of... FREEDOM.
Yet the word "Freedom" is well known to all Amarr because in truth we are all free. Free of worry for self-determination, free of desires for the sinful and lust, free of the obsession for self gratification and property. While many claim the Amarr oppose freedom the truth is we are the epitomy of freedom.
The "Freedom" that only true faith can bring.
As I look at the news broadcasts the last several weeks I am reminded of the failure of freedom in places that allege to extol it's virtue. In truth the society that worships a version of "Freedom" the most, the heathen Minmatar, is in reality the most accurate and truthful evidence of the failure of a freedom from God. You see brothers and sisters only God can grant us true freedom from the wants of the lessor races. Only God provides and protects, nurtures and nourishes, guides and governs. Yes only God brings true freedom for He is the only true law in the universe.
I look at several recent news examples from the Minmatar "Republic" and see evidence what I speak is true.
YOUTH GANGS ACOUST INNOCENT PASSERSBY
IDOLTRY LEADS TO DISASTER - YOUTH INJURED
MINMATAR YOUTH BLINDED - PARENTS OUTRAGED
Youth gangs running wild, youths blinding themselves to worship false idols, parents unable to control their children. Yes brothers and sisters "Freedom" appears to be alive and well in the Minmatar "Republic". But is this a freedom we should aspire to or condemn? In reality this is not freedom at all it is imprisonment. Rather then a life of service and faith among their Amarrian bettors the Minmatar have chosen a path of darkness and desparation. Instead of following the true God and worshiping Him they worship an "elected" leader and terrorist who represents all that is evil in the universe.
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Archbishop
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.22 01:43:00 -
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Likewise this Minmatar parents and their "freedom" once again prove they are not capable of supervising their youth. Were these children in Amarrian protection they would be going to church, reading scriptures, praying, working for God in service to His chosen people. They would not be running wild acousting people who fail to support a war of terror and destruction.
Yes my friends it is clear this "Freedom" as defined by the Minmatar is in fact "Failure". True "Freedom" only comes from God and it is the freedom FROM self direction and desire. Knowing you exist for something bigger than yourself. Knowing you are here for a purpose and believing in your heart that your service is just and right. No false idoltry, no wayward parents, no roving gangs, just "Freedom" from all the insecurity.
Perhaps the biggest freedom we Amarr have is the freedom from doubt. There is no doubt our God has chosen the Amarr as described in the holy scriptures. I must admit it is comforting beyond belief to be alive knowing the truth of God and knowing His purpose for us. It is freedom from all worry to know my path is laid out for me at His direction and command. I need not worry about what do next, what to decide, what to believe or who to obey. God spells it out and within His holy empire the truth is easily apparent.
So when I speak of the Failure of Freedom my friends I speak of the failure of the false freedom. The freedom believed by the Minmatar and held up as an example to emulate. The freedom from responsibility, the freedom from justice, the freedom from God. That is the failure of freedom. It is in fact not freedom at all but imprisonment. The Minmatar who is "free" is in fact a slave to all that doubt and confusion. Only by being in service to God and Amarr can the Minmatar truly be free from that horror.
God Bless the Amarr.... the only "Free" society in Eve.
Archbishop
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari
Ledoux Holdings
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Posted - 2008.08.22 02:01:00 -
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When I was young, there was a crazy man who used to shout gibberish at people as they went to work in the mines. Apparently, he used to work there himself, but he was involved in an accident that killed most of the people on his team. He felt responsible, and that eventually turned to madness. Anyway, he'd always be there as I went to school. Seeing him there everyday became a part of life as I was growing up.
One day, he wasn't there. He was nowhere to be seen next day as well. For days on end, people went to work and school without Gibbers yelling at them. I can't describe how wrong the experience felt. After maybe two weeks, though, he was back and all was right in the world.
You, Archie, are the Gibbers of IGS.
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Archbishop
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.22 02:39:00 -
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I will always be here to remind those of the lessor races of the truth of God and His holy word. While the analytical abilities of the lessor races are not as refined as the Amarr I'm sure after awhile even those who believe everything they don't understand is "gibberish" come to eventually understand. I know slaves in my care who have served 40-50 years sometimes reach enlightenment in the twilight of their natural lives. But they do arrive there eventually. Thus it is not a life wasted at all and while they may've failed to understand the truth (thus believing it "gibberish") in the end they saw the truth.
To compare I'm sure as a child you had adults use words you didn't understand thus you believed them to be "gibberish". Today you understand those words and they make sense to you. To your benefit you listened to the "gibberish" until it finally made sense. It's alot like youth believing their parents to strict or rules to encroching on what is "fun". As one matures and ages I've often heard said "my parents were right". At least among the other races as we Amarr are raised with God and a sense of duty so the problem of "fun" rarely intrudes. But for those like yourself it holds true nonetheless.
I will take your comment as a compliment. Thank you.
Archbishop
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Angelice
Minmatar
Infinity Enterprises
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.22 02:57:00 -
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Archbishop, you seem to be under the false impression that all the children of Amarr are well behaved!?
What was the name of that rogue heir again? Oh yeah that's it, Khanid...
Angelice
Infinity Enterprises
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Zarkahesh
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.22 03:00:00 -
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Again we see the insidious influence of Gallentean ideals infecting the minds of impressionable Matari youth. What a seductive lie those heathens in the Federation spread to the ignorant and naive in the Republic. The lies of freedom and liberty. They do nothing but mire these poor souls in the darkness of damnation and deceit as they cast them adrift on the seas of moral dissipation and away from the light of God. Away from salvation and forever lost.
What is freedom and liberty without the purpose that God brings? Nothing. Empty drivel designed to ensare the weak and foolish. Choice without purpose is pointless. The people of the Federation and Republic believe it is their right to choose their own destinies and to deny the shining path that God has set for them. The result? They become nothing more than empty shells motivated by only the most base desires. Avarice. Envy. Lust. Hatred. Apathy. Anger. Nothing more than animals and beasts wearing the skin of a human being.
Disgusting.
However, we are Amarr. The Godless heathens we face today are no different than to those we have faced in the past. We know that what they do, they do only out of ignorance of God's love for them. They are nothing more than wayward children, all of them who know not the gravity of the wrong they do. That is why they must be reclaimed and be shown the love God has for them. Reclaimed so that they may be saved from the darkness of falshood and brought into the light of truth. The truth that the greatest freedom they shall ever know is in slavery.
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari
Ledoux Holdings
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Posted - 2008.08.22 03:18:00 -
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Silly godslaves. Sometimes I think that the only way to prove you wrong is to send you to the place where you think God should be. Actually, that's not a bad idea at all.
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.08.22 05:55:00 -
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Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 22/08/2008 05:56:35
Mr. Ledoux, there has got to be a method, somewhere, of approaching Amarrian believers that doesn't confirm, in their eyes, at least, the truth of their view of us heathens. Not that I'm sure either of us are likely to produce a significantly different impression, but this strikes me as the rough equivalent of gouging someone's eyes because he called you a violent person.
Unless, of course, you're just having fun, in which case ... *sigh* Oh, never mind. It's not as though you're adding measurably to the general chorus, anyway. Or as though they'd change their minds about you (or any of us) if you stopped. Or as though it would change the larger picture very much, if they did.
Let me simply observe that the believers-versus-atheists arguments are getting as tiresome as the Amarr-versus-Minmatar ones.
Gods and spirits.
Ah, well, what else do I expect from an interstellar comms board in the middle of a war....
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari
Ledoux Holdings
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Posted - 2008.08.22 06:17:00 -
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Considering what Amarrian zealots do when they think that there is a God, I'm not sure it would be a good idea to prove that they're wrong without killing them in the process. Otherwise, they might turn into a nation of Scagga Laebetrovos. Do you really want that on your conscience?
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.08.22 06:26:00 -
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... I don't think I quite followed that.
You're attributing Scagga's, er, symptoms to a crisis of faith? ... I hadn't heard such a background presented, but I ... suppose it's possible. Losing one's faith would be a little like getting the floor kicked out from under one, but then it seems to me it's all in how you land.
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari
Ledoux Holdings
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Posted - 2008.08.22 06:34:00 -
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"Crisis of faith" implies that one might come around. I think I prefer the term "unwelcome revelation." Semantics aside, his behavior has certainly been uncharacteristic of late, hasn't it? Ah, well. I'm sure there's a good reason ... or perhaps a bad one.
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Kimochi Rendar
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.08.22 11:43:00 -
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Kimochi sighs and begins an audio reply. Her voice sounds sad, or resigned.
It's sermons like this that originally caused me to lose my faith.
Archbishop... You are everything I have come to expect from years of service to the Empire, and the Amarrian vision of God. You should be proud; You continue to inspire bigotry and racial hatred all throughout the cluster.
After all, those are the ideals the Empire seems to hold closest to it's heart.
The audio transmission ends.
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Avel Kereka
Amarr
The Aegis Militia
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.08.22 12:11:00 -
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Everyone makes judgments based on race, personality and culture. Because we aren't afraid of expressing the truth we come across as "bigots" to those who are so veiled in deceit they can't see that every civilization in history has been built on those elements.
It would do you heathens some good to shut up and beat yourselves for your hypocritical, multicultural stupidity.
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Alexia Dravic
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Posted - 2008.08.22 14:16:00 -
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Opening the channel to listen to the words of Archbishop, whom she has long respected, she contemplates her words before issuing a response.
While I agree that many who are without faith are likewise without freedom, I must say that I am confused by some of your words. If any slaves that you have turn to the truth of God, would you then grant them physical, political freedom? Or would they remain in servitude? I hope it to be the former, for if it were the latter, your words would seem to smell of...hypocrisy?
She jumps slightly, as if realizing the words she just spoke.
Please forgive me, I do not mean to imply anything insidious. I am simply a humble listener to your wise words wishing further explanation.
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Marcus Baviasi
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.22 15:30:00 -
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Freedom from doubt is surely one of the great gifts of faith. So I have found it in my own short life.
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.08.22 20:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Avel Kereka
Everyone makes judgments based on race, personality and culture. Because we aren't afraid of expressing the truth we come across as "bigots" to those who are so veiled in deceit they can't see that every civilization in history has been built on those elements.
It would do you heathens some good to shut up and beat yourselves for your hypocritical, multicultural stupidity.
On personality and culture, of course we do, pilot, and I don't think anyone is likely to much argue otherwise. That's not remotely at issue; we all favor certain ways of thinking over others.
As for race, well, that depends on what you mean by "judgment." Planetside, without protection I suffer skin damage from ultraviolet light much faster than a Brutor, and should therefore probably not try to stay in the sun as long as he can. On the other hand, I can fit into nooks and crannies he can't, and my fingers are smaller. It would, however, be foolish of me to assume that he is objectively my "inferior," or I his, just because I get crisped faster and can fold into a smaller ball.
As for being "hypocritical," pilot, I'm an Angel. We'll sell all of you, irrespective of race, creed, or culture, though admittedly we'll make a few race-based judgments on who to sell to whom and in what format. Amarr tend to be buyers; the Matari, as I understand it, usually prefer to rent, if only due to legal considerations. Otherwise, I'm sure a great many of them would savor the irony of owning a True Amarr.
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Tishlin Veredici
Armada.
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Posted - 2008.08.22 21:13:00 -
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Edited by: Tishlin Veredici on 22/08/2008 21:13:55
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Archbishop
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.23 03:24:00 -
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Quote:
Opening the channel to listen to the words of Archbishop, whom she has long respected, she contemplates her words before issuing a response.
While I agree that many who are without faith are likewise without freedom, I must say that I am confused by some of your words. If any slaves that you have turn to the truth of God, would you then grant them physical, political freedom? Or would they remain in servitude? I hope it to be the former, for if it were the latter, your words would seem to smell of...hypocrisy?
She jumps slightly, as if realizing the words she just spoke.
Please forgive me, I do not mean to imply anything insidious. I am simply a humble listener to your wise words wishing further explanation.
I see you are confused so I will explain it in a manner I hope you can understand. Your question about slaves being "freed" physicially versus being kept slaves. It is true many Amarr including myself free enlightened slaves once they reach a level of education worthy of being Ammatar. I think you misunderstand the concept I'm trying to get across here.
- Freedom as measured by the Minmatar is in the physical sense. It's a freedom to act as heathens, to live out of control, to live without any sense of responsibility or servitude to God.
- Freedom as measured to someone like myself of the Amarr faith is a freedom from worry, a freedom from doubt, a freedom from darkness and uncertainty as the truth is laid out to us in the holy scriptures.
- Slavery to the Minmatar is viewed as a lack of physical freedom and self-determination and as a "bad" thing.
- Slavery to the Amarr is viewed as a state of being where we are subserviant to God and His commands.
In truth we are all slaves to the commands of our God and we all serve Him not ourselves. When you ask about Minmatar being freed they are freed in the physical sense when Amarrian bettors release them however but that is not the real freedom here. The true freedom I speak of is the freedom being a servant of God brings you. The freedom from all the sin and doubt and uncertainty.
Yes the Minmatar who ascend to the status of enlightened Ammatar can reach the Amarr meaning of "freedom" and thus they are truly free. While they have physical "freedom" that is not important rather the freedom as viewed by the Amarr, the real freedom is what matters most.
I hope this helps you understand.
Archbishop
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Avel Kereka
Amarr
The Aegis Militia
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.08.23 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Aria Jenneth
Originally by: Avel Kereka
Everyone makes judgments based on race, personality and culture. Because we aren't afraid of expressing the truth we come across as "bigots" to those who are so veiled in deceit they can't see that every civilization in history has been built on those elements.
It would do you heathens some good to shut up and beat yourselves for your hypocritical, multicultural stupidity.
On personality and culture, of course we do, pilot, and I don't think anyone is likely to much argue otherwise. That's not remotely at issue; we all favor certain ways of thinking over others.
As for race, well, that depends on what you mean by "judgment." Planetside, without protection I suffer skin damage from ultraviolet light much faster than a Brutor, and should therefore probably not try to stay in the sun as long as he can. On the other hand, I can fit into nooks and crannies he can't, and my fingers are smaller. It would, however, be foolish of me to assume that he is objectively my "inferior," or I his, just because I get crisped faster and can fold into a smaller ball.
As for being "hypocritical," pilot, I'm an Angel. We'll sell all of you, irrespective of race, creed, or culture, though admittedly we'll make a few race-based judgments on who to sell to whom and in what format. Amarr tend to be buyers; the Matari, as I understand it, usually prefer to rent, if only due to legal considerations. Otherwise, I'm sure a great many of them would savor the irony of owning a True Amarr.
"Race" is a fancy name for extended family relations which usually result in communities and nations. The Minmatar proudly maintain racial distinctions just as the Caldari do--even though the Caldari place much more importance on other issues. It's inevitable that we'll be separated by race, and it is inevitable that those races will find themselves in some sort of hierarchy. Where the Amarr come in is that we believe our race is most fit to lead the rest. The concept of 'race' is not up for debate, nor is the power stuggle that ensues; one could contest the claim that the Amarr are superior however, and as such we must prove ourselves on the battlefield.
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.08.24 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: Avel Kereka
The concept of 'race' is not up for debate, nor is the power stuggle that ensues....
Of course it is, pilot. Where we draw the line on what is "race" and what is "culture" is highly significant and also highly arguable.
For example: you may be, without question or doubt, True Amarr in both blood and culture. You're an easy case, so I'll accept for the moment that your own status is, as you say, not up for debate.
Jenneth, however, is not an Achur name. I'm half-Civire by blood, and, though both my parents lived on Saisio, my father was not native to my homeworld. Culturally, I was raised as a part of my mother's family, which is part of a monkish tradition extending back into the misty depths of the traceable family tree.
By culture and training, if not necessarily temperament, then, I am Achura through and through. By blood ... well, I don't fit so neatly into a single "family," do I? Which defines me: my name or my culture? Or do I simply fall through the cracks of your scheme?
Where I am now, it's highly arguable that it even matters. As Angels make no distinction as to what bloods are acceptable prey, we likewise make no distinction as to which are acceptable comrades, superiors, or inferiors. Outcasts from "polite" Empire society we may be, Mr. Kereka, but it seems that you should at least apply an asterisk to your notion that division and stratification by race is "inevitable." After all, should we by some strange chance come into the possession of the rest of you (in the aftermath of a cataclysmic war, for instance?), you'd all be perfectly equal under our undoubtedly just and benevolent rule.
Bwahaha, Mr. Kereka.
Not that we have any particular plans to, but ... well, you know. When opportunity knocks?
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Avel Kereka
Amarr
The Aegis Militia
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.08.24 06:30:00 -
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Originally by: Aria Jenneth
Originally by: Avel Kereka
The concept of 'race' is not up for debate, nor is the power stuggle that ensues....
Of course it is, pilot. Where we draw the line on what is "race" and what is "culture" is highly significant and also highly arguable.
For example: you may be, without question or doubt, True Amarr in both blood and culture. You're an easy case, so I'll accept for the moment that your own status is, as you say, not up for debate.
Jenneth, however, is not an Achur name. I'm half-Civire by blood, and, though both my parents lived on Saisio, my father was not native to my homeworld. Culturally, I was raised as a part of my mother's family, which is part of a monkish tradition extending back into the misty depths of the traceable family tree.
By culture and training, if not necessarily temperament, then, I am Achura through and through. By blood ... well, I don't fit so neatly into a single "family," do I? Which defines me: my name or my culture? Or do I simply fall through the cracks of your scheme?
Where I am now, it's highly arguable that it even matters. As Angels make no distinction as to what bloods are acceptable prey, we likewise make no distinction as to which are acceptable comrades, superiors, or inferiors. Outcasts from "polite" Empire society we may be, Mr. Kereka, but it seems that you should at least apply an asterisk to your notion that division and stratification by race is "inevitable." After all, should we by some strange chance come into the possession of the rest of you (in the aftermath of a cataclysmic war, for instance?), you'd all be perfectly equal under our undoubtedly just and benevolent rule.
Bwahaha, Mr. Kereka.
Not that we have any particular plans to, but ... well, you know. When opportunity knocks?
The day the Empires collapse is the day I enter a polygamous marriage with several Minmatar in an Intaki temple with Darth Sage as best man. Even with the recent friction all they've done is bottle up the conflict in border regions so that their precious sovereignty remains largely untouched.
As for your situation, culture and ethnicity... well you're a common pirate, a directionless thief hopped up on ISK and technology. Ethnically you belong in the State doing State things under the general aegis of being Caldari--preferably with a "monkish" bent as you seem to have inherited your mother's genes.
That wasn't so hard, was it?
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.08.24 07:35:00 -
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Originally by: Avel Kereka
The day the Empires collapse is the day I enter a polygamous marriage with several Minmatar in an Intaki temple with Darth Sage as best man. Even with the recent friction all they've done is bottle up the conflict in border regions so that their precious sovereignty remains largely untouched.
As for your situation, culture and ethnicity... well you're a common pirate, a directionless thief hopped up on ISK and technology. Ethnically you belong in the State doing State things under the general aegis of being Caldari--preferably with a "monkish" bent as you seem to have inherited your mother's genes.
That wasn't so hard, was it?
"General aegis," Mr. Kereka? There are only two bloodlines of ethnic Caldari: the Deteis and the Civire. The Achura as a people possess no historical or genetic link to Caldari Prime, and are therefore part of the State as a political entity but not as a "racial" one. Culturally, the Achura are compatible with rather than integrated into the broader Caldari culture.
Any Achur, and most Civire and Deteis, will take exception to the notion that "Caldari" are a single race. A single nation, yes, but despite a lengthy history of contact and cooperation the Civire and Deteis remain genetically, culturally, and temperamentally distinct-- and that's after millennia spent at the bottom of the self-same gravity well.
My mother's people didn't even do that.
If this line of thought needs any further coffin nails, you might consider that the same process of lumping in would define the Ni Kunnis to be under the same "general aegis" as yourself. You have the same God, the same religion, and so on, admittedly, but it seems pretty clear to me that you're not the same race, as such.
As to the Empires' collapse: you're probably correct that there isn't much danger of that, for now, but I wonder if you'd have been so cavalier if I'd said such a thing, say, a few hours before Jamyl Sarum put on her much-needed appearance.
The Empires are racial entities (to the degree that they really are racial), Mr. Kereka, because their power bases arise from worlds with ethnically distinctive populations. Your faith aside, there is no law stating that all power blocks must so arise-- and, indeed, CONCORD, the Cartel, and Sansha's Nation are already all ethnically neutral entities. Of course, CONCORD sort of has to be and the Nation more or less makes ethnicity irrelevant through modification, but the Cartel, for one, is a true multiethnic, multicultural power.
And you can read the seriousness with which CONCORD looks at us as a ringing endorsement of the approach.
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Zarkahesh
Amarr
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.24 09:16:00 -
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Ethnicity is vital in determining the purity of ones soul in the eyes of God. Race is merely a reflection of how close your soul is to God. The blood of the races of the Empire is pure, as such our souls are pure and close to God.
The blood of heathens, having never known the grace of God is impure and foul. Their souls therefore are impure and foul. Only by having adequate racial distinctions are we able to seperate the pure from the filth. |
Vaden Khale
Amarr
the united
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Posted - 2008.08.24 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zarkahesh
Ethnicity is vital in determining the purity of ones soul in the eyes of God. Race is merely a reflection of how close your soul is to God. The blood of the races of the Empire is pure, as such our souls are pure and close to God.
The blood of heathens, having never known the grace of God is impure and foul. Their souls therefore are impure and foul. Only by having adequate racial distinctions are we able to seperate the pure from the filth.
Vaden strikes the comm channel, an amused brow arched. He chuckles lightly as he sips from a dark red wine, as he often does.
I do enjoy when fools open their mouths. Sinq Laison is often quiet at this time of the day, and they do so amuse me. Now, Zarkahesh, allow me to correct you.
He stands quickly and moves back dramatically, raising his hands as if to address a crowd, and now shown to be wearing a holder's robe adorned with symbols of the Sani Sabik.
Behold, and gaze upon me, for I, foolish Zarkahesh, am a pure blooded Amarrian! My family holds estate in Youl, and have visited the Emperor Academy orbiting Oris itself. My childhood was spent learning the ways of God and listening to sycophants such as Archbishop waste their time discussing slavery and race. It was later when I learned of the true ways of the Sani Sabik did I realize the lies they spread, and your idiocy is one of the greatest among them. Many here would ignorantly call me scum, murderer, and most complimentary of all, heretic. Yet, according to you, my soul is among those closest to God simply because of an accident of birth. And yes, while many Minmatar are filthy heathens, some are among the Empire's greatest supporters. Or have you not heard of the Mandate? Only a deluded fool would worship a God who only accepts people based on race and not that persons actual devotion. You are a fool, a blight upon even the chancre of those like Archbishop, and I pray that one day I might have you on my altar. I do not normally force capsuleers upon my offering table, but I will make an exception for an idiot such as you.
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Karanth
Gallente
Eve's Brothers of Destiny
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: Karanth on 24/08/2008 11:06:41
The only freedom is the freedom that comes from within, and while the Empire can beat people down into submission, only those who surrender themselves will lose that freedom.
And those children, like all children, are stupid. I'm sure that Amarrian children are as stupid as the children of any other racial group you would care to name. The mind goes where it will, and if one decides that industrial dye applied to the eyes is the way to go, then there is no stopping it.
I still say those children should be forced to pay their own way to regain their sight, and if they can't, then blindness suits them.
Also, your sermons have lost some quality lately, a certain something... Ah yes, I believe it is called "lucid thought."
EDIT: Typos are also from the mind.
Make me pretty!
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Zarkahesh
Amarr
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:06:00 -
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Vaden Khale, yes your soul as a True Amarr may have been pure once, but salvation is only granted by unwavering committment to the edicts of God. You have foregone the salvation of your eternal soul, sullied the sanctity of your flesh and are forever damned for wavering in your committment to the Lord. Such is the punishment for straying from the path of God. Not only for you but all heretics. You may only knock once on the gates of Paradise.
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Vaden Khale
Amarr
the united
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:15:00 -
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Ethnicity is vital in determining the purity of ones soul in the eyes of God.
Hmm, I am pure blooded Amarrian. That can never change. I can't wake up one day and be Khanid or Ni-Kunni.
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Race is merely a reflection of how close your soul is to God.
So, according to your own statements, simply by being born a pure Amarrian, my soul is close to God. Now that I've shown you the depths of your ineptitude in logical thinking, you backtrack to try to point salvation as something that as earned through faith and not blood. So which is it? Or, is it determined by race and blood? If that is the case, then your faith is racist and bigoted, and worth more revulsion than my own, which I might add accepts all capsuleers as equals in the eyes of God. Turn to the truth of Sani Sabik and do away with your vile religion.
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Alica Wildfire
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:15:00 -
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Archi, may I call you like that "Archi"? Normally I would not do this, but you are opening your arms so fatherly that I dare to assume you feel something like warm and familar with those Ex-Slaves your brave Amarrian brothers and sisters let suffer so many decades.
Freedom means to have the freedom to fail. And some will - when you let them. But most other will ascent to higher regions that many people never will see, because they are not free.
To be free means to have no master. To believe in the one good master that you call god is not a bad thing, maybe. But still he is a master and this is no freedom. It limits your ability to reach a higher mental ground.
See, it's like a virus or worm in my shipscomputer. While it may have good intentions like prevent me to get any worms or virus on board it is most certainly ruining my processing power and making me too slow to compte. People without a malware-ill computersystem will always be faster, better than those with it.
Bad thing is that this mnemo-virus that's called religion tries to spread like all virus do. The only thing you can do to prevent this is to make your mind strong against this bad influence and in the end the religion always get to weak, the slow, the ill and the poor. It's a disease of mind, let's face it.
It's okay for me that you believe in this and I always respect when people believe in this or that godlike creature so long as the do no harm to people who do not. But please don't spread your virus and -no thank you- I prefer staying free. Free to fail and free to ascent.
With best regards
Alica Wildfire
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Zarkahesh
Amarr
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Vaden Khale
Or, is it determined by race and blood?
Faith and blood to be exact, fool. The purity of the soul at birth is determined by the purity of the blood of your race. The soul is kept pure by maintaining unwavering committment to the One True Faith of the Lord. Perhaps if you paid attention as a child to the teachings of the Theology Council, instead of cavorting with twisted heretics you may have already known this simple fact. |
Vaden Khale
Amarr
the united
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Zarkahesh
The purity of the soul at birth is determined by the purity of the blood of your race.
So you are actually saying that the salvation of your soul begins with something that you have actually no control over? Surely I did not choose to be born Amarrian, and neither did you, or Archbishop. How...idiotic. Now, here comes the most interesting conundrum. The only one who has control over what race you are born to is God. According to you, at the moment of birth, God is condemning the majority of the galaxy for something they never had a choice in.
Vaden ponders for a moment
Perhaps you should take over for Archbishop. I do believe your incessant inane rantings would do wonders for converting people away from your false religion.
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