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Vila eNorvic
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.28 03:25:00 -
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Bouh Revetoile wrote:If this is the Nemesis, this will also be the Tristan right ?! During the Fanfest presentation there was a quick flash of some of the on-going artwork which showed the Tristan getting its own revamp, making it look more like a spaceship than its present rather silly 'mech warrior' look. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
97
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Posted - 2012.04.04 23:18:00 -
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Apologies for the necro but I am pleasantly surprised by the purifier and take back my prior negative comments about it. http://community.eveonline.com/en/inferno/gallery/ |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3651
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Posted - 2012.04.04 23:28:00 -
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OP should update with the new pictures.
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JamesCLK
Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners
163
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Posted - 2012.04.04 23:34:00 -
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Necro is actually worth it in this case; I was considering booting up a new thread myself but I recalled there being an older thread.
Direct links to the pictures: Updated Purifier Hound, coloured Manticore, higher resurl] [url=http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/28091/1/nemesis_redesign_branded_small.jpg]Nemesis, higher res |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1387
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Posted - 2012.04.04 23:40:00 -
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Oh FFS the minmatar ship still looks like a pickup truck with a ladder strapped to it. I want to bomb stuff, not put two coats of paint on it (in one afternoon).
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Ajita al Tchar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
193
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Posted - 2012.04.04 23:40:00 -
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TBH I didn't like the Hound at first but on second look it's actually pretty neat. I just think it looks like it's missing something, some... body I guess But actually I'm looking forward to it.
And of course the new Imicus is still ****. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
97
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Posted - 2012.04.04 23:54:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Oh FFS the minmatar ship still looks like a pickup truck with a ladder strapped to it. I want to bomb stuff, not put two coats of paint on it (in one afternoon). I kinda like it personally, they kept the basic design the old model had to good effect. And it still looks more Minmatar than say, the redesigned reaper did IMHO. |
Darthewok
Perkone Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2012.04.05 00:08:00 -
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Updated Purifier is perfect. Looks really Amarr now in that it has a hard armored shell (it better be gold of course). Yeah, the stealth bomber redesigns now look racially consistent. One look and you can tell the Purifier is Amarr, Hound is Minmatar, Manticore is Caldari and Nemesis is Gallente.
Amarr ships should look like they are designed by the Spanish Inquisition, Minmatar by Mad Max, Caldari by Lockheed Martin and Gallente by some mad sculptor. And the redesigns do.
CAVEAT RICHARDUS VOLVERE - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 |
MICH00000
The Pakk Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.04.05 00:54:00 -
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loving the looks of new stealth bomber models, definitely looks awesome! |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
641
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Posted - 2012.04.05 01:02:00 -
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Ajita al Tchar wrote:TBH I didn't like the Hound at first but on second look it's actually pretty neat. I just think it looks like it's missing something, some... body I guess But actually I'm looking forward to it. And of course the new Imicus is still ****. Wait... new Imicus? Whats it look like? |
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Lili Lu
194
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Posted - 2012.04.05 01:15:00 -
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Amazing that they somehow managed to make them all look like a Drake. And the Nemesis looks more Caldari than Gallente. Oh well, they are probably too far into the process to be fixed to look less like drakes and less Caldari. I mean no problem if you want to make the Manticore look that way, but not all of them.
Regardless what they may look like, there is one outlier in the agility department, the Nemesis. I've flown all three and the Nemesis has so much worse agility than the other three that any of the other three are preferable no matter what damage you are trying to maximise.
Would be nice if they could all be de-drakified before hitting Tranquility. Particularly for the Nemesis. And please do something to bring the Nemesis agility into the neighborhood of the others. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
641
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Posted - 2012.04.05 01:22:00 -
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Lili Lu wrote: Amazing that they somehow managed to make them all look like a Drake. And the Nemesis looks more Caldari than Gallente. Oh well, they are probably too far into the process to be fixed to look less like drakes and less Caldari. I mean no problem if you want to make the Manticore look that way, but not all of them. Regardless what they may look like, there is one outlier in the agility department, the Nemesis. I've flown all three and the Nemesis has so much worse agility than the other three that any of the other three are preferable no matter what damage you are trying to maximise. Would be nice if they could all be de-drakified before hitting Tranquility. Particularly for the Nemesis. And please do something to bring the Nemesis agility into the neighborhood of the others. No offense intended... but are you blind?
How do any of them look even remotely like the Drake? |
Lili Lu
194
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Posted - 2012.04.05 01:44:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:No offense intended... but are you blind?
How do any of them look even remotely like the Drake?
Well, they are all flattened out. What happened to "vertical"? The existing Purifier and Nemesis are rather vertical, but the new ones will be flat like a drake.
I ask whether you are blind to not see the new purifier's resemblance to the drake. right down to the lancher vents along each slight downward sloping side of the broad back of the flattened hull.
Next the new Hound. Where did the pretty shark fin shaped fins go? Now they look like very square/rectangular and Caldari, indeed drake like. Additionally, look at the orientation of those fins. I would almost wager that if you measured the angle of those fins they would be the same as the angle of the drake's outer slope.
Kestral, ironically looks the least drake-like due to the two elongated beaks on each side.
Nemesis is again flattened like a drake pancake. Overall not a bad strategy to make it sorta manta ray shaped but should be more rounded and less angular, and have a roll to it like manta ray swimming through water to avoid the drake similarities. Also, and it could be just an unfortunate side-effect of black and white rendering, but it looks incredibly gray and caldari, not green and gallente.
So, I hope that opened your eyes. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
97
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Posted - 2012.04.05 02:04:00 -
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Lili Lu wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:No offense intended... but are you blind?
How do any of them look even remotely like the Drake? Well, they are all flattened out. What happened to "vertical"? The existing Purifier and Nemesis are rather vertical, but the new ones will be flat like a drake. I ask whether you are blind to not see the new purifier's resemblance to the drake. right down to the lancher vents along each slight downward sloping side of the broad back of the flattened hull. Next the new Hound. Where did the pretty shark fin shaped fins go? Now they look like very square/rectangular and Caldari, indeed drake like. Additionally, look at the orientation of those fins. I would almost wager that if you measured the angle of those fins they would be the same as the angle of the drake's outer slope. Kestral, ironically looks the least drake-like due to the two elongated beaks on each side. Nemesis is again flattened like a drake pancake. Overall not a bad strategy to make it sorta manta ray shaped but should be more rounded and less angular, and have a roll to it like manta ray swimming through water to avoid the drake similarities. Also, and it could be just an unfortunate side-effect of black and white rendering, but it looks incredibly gray and caldari, not green and gallente. So, I hope that opened your eyes. You just further confused me. Sure the hound has differences, but it still totally undrakelike. Seems your just calling any flat ship something that "looks like a drake." the purifier looks very new amarr to me. Visually I'd say it fits in well with the abbadon/legion/oracle/maller models from what we are able to see. The nemesis is somewhat unique looking, but that seems to be what many Gallente ships have going for them, but much like the others it feels like an evolution of the current hull. |
Tchal
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.05 17:46:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Lili Lu wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:No offense intended... but are you blind?
How do any of them look even remotely like the Drake? Well, they are all flattened out. What happened to "vertical"? The existing Purifier and Nemesis are rather vertical, but the new ones will be flat like a drake. ...break... Nemesis is again flattened like a drake pancake. Overall not a bad strategy to make it sorta manta ray shaped but should be more rounded and less angular, and have a roll to it like manta ray swimming through water to avoid the drake similarities. Also, and it could be just an unfortunate side-effect of black and white rendering, but it looks incredibly gray and caldari, not green and gallente. So, I hope that opened your eyes. You just further confused me. Sure the hound has differences, but it still totally undrakelike. Seems your just calling any flat ship something that "looks like a drake." the purifier looks very new amarr to me. Visually I'd say it fits in well with the abbadon/legion/oracle/maller models from what we are able to see. The nemesis is somewhat unique looking, but that seems to be what many Gallente ships have going for them, but much like the others it feels like an evolution of the current hull.
No, I totally get this. At least from a designers view. Draw a line along the top of the ship designs front to back. All the new SB hulls extend left and right from this line out and down roughly the same as the drake.
The nemesis has lost it's verticality, the manticore it's asymmetry, the Purifier is less curvy and the Hound gets no fins that break up the shape (and do make it look like a speeder bike).
Being a Minnie fan, I'm disappointed that the newest designs (tornado and hound) are losing their hard edges and utilitarian look. Everything is getting rounder, softer and symmetrical.
Hope they don't do this to my cheetah. I love my flying flipper baby. |
Josefius
13th Tribe of Kobol Expeditionary
60
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Posted - 2012.04.05 18:00:00 -
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Hound still looks about the same, cool :) You have enemies? Good, that means you stood up for something, sometime in your life.
-Winston Churchill |
Raven Ether
Republic University Minmatar Republic
131
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Posted - 2012.04.05 18:05:00 -
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That link above is outdated, here's the real thing http://community.eveonline.com/en/inferno/gallery/ (hint: purifier looks awesome).
All 4 redesigns are great, some of the best stuff that has come from CCP Art.
The refined art styles and themes are well conceived and would like to see more. Stuff actually looks sci fi and high tech.
People should better focus on asking for rebalancing the stealth bombers in light of their new models. The Nemesis has MANY problems with base stats and fitting. PLEASE FIX SB BALANCE CCP. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
99
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Posted - 2012.04.05 19:19:00 -
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Tchal wrote:No, I totally get this. At least from a designers view. Draw a line along the top of the ship designs front to back. All the new SB hulls extend left and right from this line out and down roughly the same as the drake. The nemesis has lost it's verticality, the manticore it's asymmetry, the Purifier is less curvy and the Hound gets no fins that break up the shape (and do make it look like a speeder bike). EDIT: I could not resist. Being a Minnie fan, I'm disappointed that the newest designs (tornado and hound) are losing their hard edges and utilitarian look. Everything is getting rounder, softer and symmetrical. Hope they don't do this to my cheetah. I love my flying flipper baby. Still not seeing it as far as the hound. Granted the fins are gone but from a personal point of view I was never too attached to it. The detail shown also seems to have a sense of utilitarianism and lack of aesthetic considerations that should be present in a minmatar ship. Overall the design front to back as you mentioned is still closer to the current model that the characteristics of the drake.
Manticore: Comparing new to old, the main difference is the enlarged center body. The asymmetry which is present on the wings was removed but the "bridge" and it's counterpart have been maintained.
Purifier: Reserving judgment for a bit. Want to see it fully detailed, but the lack of roundness of the front may be due to this being a low poly render. Even if not I don't think it would detract that much. Though it has a pretty strong singular hull in the front that reflects a lot of amarr hulls and is rather dissimilar to the drake, as is the proportional bulk of the center body.
Nemesis: Still my favorite. Though it is the best candidate for being thought of as drake-like in design. Remove the bits designed to look like the current hull and yes, you have something like the severely deformed front half of a drake backwards, but still different enough to stand on it's own. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3660
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Posted - 2012.04.05 19:24:00 -
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Lol at the storm trooper.
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Raven Ether
Republic University Minmatar Republic
132
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Posted - 2012.04.05 19:44:00 -
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What the **** is wrong with people saying 'if you cut this and this it looks like a drake'. Of course it will , the drake is a ******* brick. If you cut stuff from the ships they look like ******* bricks.
give us a ******* break |
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Vila eNorvic
University of Caille Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.04.05 20:51:00 -
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I get totally mystified when people say that ships with curves look Caldari - I've seen the same comment about the new Velator.
Since when did Caldari do CURVES??? |
Morne Vyvorant
Random Precision. Broken Toys
1
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Posted - 2012.04.16 17:40:00 -
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Raven Ether wrote:That link above is outdated, here's the real thing http://community.eveonline.com/en/inferno/gallery/ (hint: purifier looks awesome). All 4 redesigns are great, some of the best stuff that has come from CCP Art. The refined art styles and themes are well conceived and would like to see more. Stuff actually looks sci fi and high tech. People should better focus on asking for rebalancing the stealth bombers in light of their new models. The Nemesis has MANY problems with base stats and fitting. PLEASE FIX SB BALANCE CCP.
New Tristan? Imicus? ATRON?
CCp artists must have been in overdrive. Damn nice. |
Benteen
Drone A.I. Servicing Inc.
6
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Posted - 2012.04.19 22:51:00 -
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Arlen Fehrnah wrote:Thanks for posting those pics Sarmatiko. Those ships really look great. I can't decide which is my favourite, Gallente or Caldari. They even managed to make the Purifier not suck. Didn't think that was possible. Now I've just gotta decide which one to train for
Train for them all! I intend to... |
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
35
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Posted - 2012.04.19 22:53:00 -
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No way the hound looks epic. I love the current design but the new one is just pure gold. |
Dodecapod
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.05.28 19:54:00 -
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New Purifier sucks hard. The sketch that we saw at fanfest was much better imo... just a leaner, meaner version of the old one |
Kaelie Onren
Nyan Cat Logistics PNG Associates
23
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Posted - 2012.06.13 00:33:00 -
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Symmetry is not a bad thing. These ships are mass produced remember, as much as you'd like to think your ship is special and one of a kind, it's not. The rust color isn't rust. It's the ferrite compound used in minmatar armour plates, as any T2 industrialist will tell you. Too much asymmetry is not realistic for a ship in space as it won't be able to maneuver properly or equally in both directions ( along the axis of asymmetry ) |
Torneach
Viziam Amarr Empire
233
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Posted - 2012.06.13 00:37:00 -
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Kaelie Onren wrote:Symmetry is not a bad thing. These ships are mass produced remember, as much as you'd like to think your ship is special and one of a kind, it's not. The rust color isn't rust. It's the ferrite compound used in minmatar armour plates, as any T2 industrialist will tell you. Too much asymmetry is not realistic for a ship in space as it won't be able to maneuver properly or equally in both directions ( along the axis of asymmetry )
You just :had: to resurrect a thread to say something that's already been said dozens of times, didn't you? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7900
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Posted - 2012.06.13 00:38:00 -
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Kaelie Onren wrote:Too much asymmetry is not realistic for a ship in space as it won't be able to maneuver properly or equally in both directions ( along the axis of asymmetry ) Sure it will. For one, asymmetry in the geometry is something completely different than asymmetry in the mass distribution, for another, you can fix that with proper thrust application.
GǪand finally, there isn't a single symmetrical ship in EVE anyway. Nor in real life for that matter. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1248
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Posted - 2012.06.13 00:39:00 -
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I, TOO, LOVE NECRO SO MUCH! Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
348
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Posted - 2012.06.13 03:41:00 -
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shaun2tal wrote:The Nemesis and Manticore look awesome but the Hound and Purifier don't look anywhere near as good .
please re look at them and make them look better than just a graphic update.
yea let's spend more time and money redesigning a ship AGAIN, instead of using that art dev time in fixing a real problem like POS design. ( or adding new content! )
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961
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