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Internet Knight The Knighthawks	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:07:00 - [1] This is official notice that [TOTG] The Knighthawks is closing its doors and formal notice that [SLAG] Slag Industries has 1 week to return 2.5B ISK to me. If this is not done, you will find a knife in your back until the time which I deem you have suffered 2.5B in losses. You will find the reasoning for this expanded below. The CEO of TOTG was banned, most of the directorship has abandoned it, and membership has dispersed throughout New Eden. Summary of key events (and some not-so-key informational events) leading up to where this story begins: October 2006 [TOTG] The Knighthawks is created from members leaving <CFD> The Confederation Included in the creation of the corporation are myself (Internet Knight) and Treks Dot, though we're lowly grunts on the corporate ladder TOTG home is in lower Geminate TOTG joins <RATEL> Ratel Alliance November 2006 Ratel is pushed out of Geminate by SMASH/KILL, eventually moves to G-HISF constellation in the Drone Region now named as Malpais January 2007 [KH-LI] Knighthawk Light Industries is formed, as a highsec alt corp for TOTG; CEO is and remains to be one of my alts March 2007 Ratel pulls a Zune and fails; TOTG joins FREGE Alliance. As part of joining into FREGE, TOTG offers to assist in the creation of a cynosural highway between empire and deep 0.0; TOTG towers consist of two towers of three along the carrier route While in FREGE, Big Russ loses approximately one carrier each month TOTG remains in I8-AJY system for many months while also moving to FREGE's new outpost in 9IZ-HU After several internal promotions for outstanding service record and assistance to corporate affairs, I (Internet Knight) am promoted to director (date is approximate and may be inaccurate) August 2007 FREGE announces the FREGE Gambit, TOTG was assigned BoB's LX5K-W outpost in Paragon Soul During diplomatic turmoil, I (Internet Knight) am made an assistant diplomat for FREGE, under Ayeson Ayeson has paid ISK to be remembered in this thread! TOTG put in approximately 15B ISK in the venture, including about 10B in capitals and towers. TOTG conquered the LX5K-W outpost with a truly guerilla gang of about 8 whom have been there for several weeks, before BoB pets put a firm force in the area September 2007 For excellence in the FREGE Gambit, bodycollecter (FREGE leader) states that the prize of 3 capitals of any choice will be awarded to TOTG. This award is still outstanding -- the prize has not changed hands to this date. When I last spoke with bodycollecter, [ARKC] made off with all of FREGE's alliance assets, including the prizes. FREGE's home in the drone regions falls to aggression from SMASH/KILL & friends, and FREGE membership splits TOTG is among the remaining corporations who move to Cloud Ring to reorganize and rebuild FREGE For outstanding service and dedication to the corp, Treks Dot is promoted to director (date is approximate and may be inaccurate) November 2007 Eaiaden is recruited into TOTG From now until approximately March 2008, Eaiaden brings a trickle of recruits consisting of his friends into the corporation And now, I begin a wonderful tale to describe the final events leading to the death of this corporation. ---
Ayeson Bears Inc Violent-Tendencies	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:08:00 - [2] FIRST, in what will be an epic flame/FREGE Revival thread.... Also Tl;Dr Bears is Recruiting?
Internet Knight The Knighthawks	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:08:00 - [3] As you can see, I have been a member of TOTG from the beginning. I thought I had a good time, up until about the beginning of the the second quarter of this year. At that time, many people whom I had begun to call "friend" shat on me. I'm not angry about that though: that's what EVE is about. What I am angry about is the way in which it was done. A lot of smack and baseless accusations were thrown around, and generally no tack at all was used in approaching hostile situations. People whom I thought were cool turned out to be complete asshats. After nearly a year and a half of extensive and loyal service to the corporation, I was removed for something I did not do without being given the option to defend myself. Now, let's pick back up where the summary left off. In December 2007, it became clear to TOTG leadership that FREGE Alliance was on its last legs. TOTG's CEO, Big Russ, asked his directors to come up with an exit plan: when to announce our leaving the alliance, organizational plans for leaving Cloud Ring unharmed, and options for where to go after leaving FREGE. Big Russ then left for work. I'm going to leave his career out of this, but suffice to say that he is unavailable for several days every week while he's at work. The directorship took these orders and decided that we wouldn't announce our leaving until we've got all of our assets out. We decided that we wouldn't outright ask any member of the corporation to pack up and leave until we had a list of alliances which we'd like to join. And we included the discussion for alliance choices in corp chat, by bouncing ideas off of members to see how they felt towards the alliances we were discussing. Members took this as a sign that we were leaving and opted to voluntarily have their stuff moved back to empire. While Big Russ was off at work, the directors came up with a list of 5 alliances whom hold space which we were interested in economically. We then opted to contact those 5 alliances to get a feel regarding how well we would fit in. Our choices based solely on the economic value of the space which they were holding was: RAZOR Triumvirate IAC United Legion Knights of the Southern Cross When Eaiaden found out that we were discussing joining IAC, he convoed several of the directors and asked about a merger with another corporation in IAC, Nexus Analytics. That corporation, at the time, included many other ex-FREGE when it was formed. We figured that we had built a good corporation at the time, and had no reason to lose our corporate identity at the time. Further, we also felt that Big Russ would never go for a merger. I personally thought it would be rather silly to be leaving FREGE just to join another FREGE corporation. All of these reasons combined to laugh Eaiaden out of the room. As it turned out, we liked what we saw of RAZOR, but they were not recruiting and we were shut out pretty much solely on that fact. We felt that Triumvirate was much too PVP oriented for our taste (TOTG members are a good mix of PVP and industrial, even a good portion of carebear), and it was difficult to get in contact with them during the times in which we attempted. Knights of the Southern Cross stated to our faces that we would not want to be in their alliance because they are an alliance for ISK farmers. And we didn't know anything about United Legion, so kept them as a last resort. IAC, however, was receptive to us. In fact, we had several friendships amongst our members and IAC members. ---
Internet Knight The Knighthawks	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:09:00 - [4] When Big Russ returned from work that week, he got upset. Apparently, some of those friendships in IAC contacted Big Russ stating that they heard that we're joining IAC. Big Russ didn't like the idea that we were supposed to simply come up with a list. And yet, how can you decide what alliance you wish to join, without contacting them to see what it's like in that alliance? Suffice to say that we were in a bit of a condundrum; on one hand Big Russ was mad because we were apparently making deals behind his back (no deal was made) and that we had ordered members to remove assets from Cloud Ring (we ordered no one, all assets were moved voluntarily), and on the other hand we did exactly what we felt we were told. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. The matter was settled, however, when Big Russ noted that all members and directors were either abstaining from the flamefest or were siding on the side of the directors. But the damage was done; in particular, Treks Dot's and my own egos were bruised in that Big Russ felt that we had overstepped our bounds: we were the people actually running the show, and we were being told off for running it the way we were asked. Nonetheless, TOTG joined IAC on Christmas Day of 2007. In the middle of January, Big Russ broke his shoulder. As a consequence, he was unable to play for a while. As his shoulder healed and even after he was cleared for work again, he was still not seen often due to having discovered the value of a female personal assistant (you know... the WooHoo! kind of female assistant). Yet, he signed in just long enough to see that Eaiaden had been recruiting many of his friends to the corporation and therefore granted Eaiaden directorship solely on that account. Big Russ did not discuss this promotion with any other directors, and we were disappointed. We disagreed vehemently with the promotion and yet it stood. In the beginning of February, Big Russ had been all but unreachable for two weeks when one of the directors received a mail from Big Russ stating that he would be MIA for a while (as if he wasn't already), without specifying a timeframe. In that mail, he gave that director the account information to the Big Russ character in case something needed to happen while he was away. As February progressed, Eaiaden noticed that TOTG's membership was going through a low activity phase. He also noted that another corporation in IAC has numerous members of Ex-FREGE and suggested that a merger could prove fruitful. The remaining directorship refused this suggestion citing that Big Russ would have been against it. Near the end of February, IAC was also going through some troubled times. IAC's leadership and main PVP/logistics force had split with the creation of Odyssey. During this time, Eaiaden is made a subservant diplomant for IAC. With such a bang up job he did as a director for TOTG in mind, he could only achieve more as a mouthpiece for IAC. Some of TOTG's more vocal members wanted to leave and were pushing for that. Some corporation assets needed to be moved, and only Big Russ could do it as he had the... assets... required to move the corporation's items. So that director tried to log in Big Russ to get this stuff moved, and it turned out that Big Russ' account had expired! ---
Internet Knight The Knighthawks	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:10:00 - [5] It was decided then that having essentially no contact with Big Russ for 6 weeks was long enough that the corporation ran without a head. We didn't know if Big Russ still even wanted to play, considering the fact that he had let his account expire. We knew that Big Russ had lots of ISK as we had his character on our EVEMon and could see just how much ISK he had. Therefore, it was decided that we would use his own ISK to buy a 90-day GTC for him and his alt account. Then we transferred the CEO to one of the directors. Perhaps we overstepped our bounds there, perhaps not. But it was that or else saying goodbye to some expensive corporation items which were under duress all because Big Russ was MIA. Because our future in IAC was, well, uncertain at best, we decided it best to move Big Russ's assets out of IAC space and back into our lowsec staging point. That way, if we did leave IAC, Big Russ wouldn't return with all of his assets locked in stations which he can't access (see what uncaring ****s we are?). I personally paid for the capital fuel for that* director to move Big Russ' assets, and personally lit the cynos for it to happen; so Big Russ wasn't even out the fuel cost. The only one that was really against the whole thing was Eaiaden. But Eaiaden wasn't online at the time this needed to happen. And we considered Eaiaden a director in name only. He didn't run any corp towers. He didn't lead any corp ops at the time. And he has always simply done his own thing for his own profit. So we didn't consider his words to have any meaning whatsoever. Something important for later is that the director noted that Big Russ had assets quite literally all over New Eden. Ever seen a pack rat? Big Russ is a shining example. You might wonder how he aquired so many assets... and that will be explained. Then something simultaneously both pleasantly funny and horribly foreboding happened. Big Russ returned from MIA two days later. When he returned, he started understandably ****ing that his ISK was stolen. When asked to provide screenshots, he dodged the question by changing subject to his assets being missing. When we asked what assets were missing, he didn't state anything specific. Of course, the directorship got blamed for this fiasco. The only ISK that was missing was ISK that was used to pay for two 90D GTCs. And his assets weren't missing... they were moved. And we're pretty confident that's exactly the case, or else that* director would have been banned. We repeatedly told him exactly what happened, and yet he continued to *** about it for days on end. As March progressed, the issue slowly faded to the back of Big Russ' agenda as time passed and other events unfolded, though. CEO was transferred back to Big Russ after he had cought up with the events that had happened in IAC and in TOTG. Nonetheless, he was still not playing as consistently as he was before the turn of the year. Corporation activity had rebounded while Big Russ was MIA and several corp ops were planned. Eaiaden takes the European guys on two mining ops, and I plan one mining op for the U.S. guys. No one shows up to the U.S. op, favoring PVP instead. However, Eaiaden corrals some of his buddies and boasts that his Euro guys can out-mine the US players. Treks Dot and myself believed that that was ** poor and that we could do better ourselves, alone if we had to. So we run an impromptu mining op one night, and net more ISK worth of materials over about 3 hours than Eaiaden's crew did. This continued for quite a while, and I seriously doubted whether or not Eaiaden was honest in his end-of-operation reports. Nonetheless, I let them pass as I wasn't there to see how horribly managed his operations were. ---
Internet Knight The Knighthawks	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:11:00 - [6] Now, I haven't mentioned much to the contrary, but this is an important fact: approximately 2.5B ISK was generated during the time that Big Russ went MIA, solely from corp taxes and mining ops. All of that ISK was generated with Big Russ out of the picture. I'll explain why this is important in a bit... ;) When Tyrrax Thorrk left IAC after it was found out that he had stolen two Wyverns from his corp, Eaiaden was promoted to chief diplomat and the alliance leader's right hand man. Sweet God have mercy upon us all. Eventually, the issue of merging with Nexus Analytics was brought up again. This time though, us other directors were a little more open to the idea. The issues with Big Russ had devastatingly opened a rift amongst friendships, and it was decided that we would support the idea if Big Russ would support the idea. Unfortunately, Big Russ had unexpectedly logged off the night before, in his carrier outside a starbase while his carrier was in Triage mode repairing said starbase. So we had Eaiaden contact Nexus Analytic's leadership and see if they're up for it. Our plan was to create a third corporation and have all members join the new corporation with a completely revised command structure. Next Analytic's leadership gave approval and was behind it 110%, and so we were now at the waiting-for-Big-Russ game. He wasn't seen for three more days (we assumed he was off to work again). When we asked him about the issue, he once again went on a tirade. He went so far as to call Treks Dot a traitor. Because I have supported nearly everything Treks Dot has done and have even assisted with many issues, he essentially called me a traitor by proxy. Funny, considering that we're getting called traitors for something which Eaiaden was pushing. Funny, considering that Treks Dot and myself were the ones that took care of 3/4 of the corp issues; everything from running the corp's starbase operations, to leading any corporation gangs (mining or pvp), to even dealing with problems outside our corporation that involved TOTG. Since we're traitors, he goes ahead and strips both of our roles. That's where the funny ends, in my eyes. Since I'm already going out the door as a "traitor" for doing my job, I propose a vote for myself as CEO. The point here is that I needed to stay in the corporation long enough to make sure that the merger goes through successfully: several other members of the corporation were offended at the actions of Big Russ and expressed wishes to abandon ship. A vote for CEO would ensure that I would be immune from being kicked, as I'm being voted upon. It would also make sure that Big Russ would be unable to use his CEO position to hamper merger issues. When the vote ended, we had filed a petition about it. You see, the vote was bugged. No results from the vote were displayed. Though several of us clearly voted, the results stated that no one voted anything. In response, the GM asked us to create the vote again. Yeah, I'd bet you can see that Big Russ was not impressed. Nonetheless, after the second vote also failed, he saw that we weren't the only ones that wanted to leave TOTG after all this crap. So he let the merger continue, and granted me my directorship back while I was offline, while Treks Dot was bumped down the corporate ladder to a regular grunt. Now we get to another somewhat controversial point. ---
Internet Knight The Knighthawks	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:11:00 - [7] Seeing that my directorship was back, I wanted to make sure that the ISK in the corp wallet was properly divided between TOTG and the new merger corporation. It was, after all, ISK generated by the members, and was to be used to assist the members. Why should the people staying keep the ISK that others generated? So my goal was to split it based on how many people merged and how many people stayed. So, if 25% of TOTG remained, then 25% of the ISK would be returned to TOTG and the remaining 75% would be used as startup ISK for the merger corporation. And I didn't take all of the corp ISK. I specifically left 250M there for any kind of unforseen emergency circumstances: maybe we needed to put up a tower for the alliance, maybe someone ran off with fuel and we need to come up with fuel for a tower, maybe a corp tower **s up and kills a blue. I didn't really care what it would be used for, as long as the corp wasn't left penniless until the merger was finished. Unfortunately, Eaiaden saw this as me stealing the corp wallet. And rather than contacting me about it, he goes and tells Hachou that I'm a corp thief. Hachou rightfully says that it's an internal corp matter. So, avoiding yet ANOTHER corporate dramabomb, Treks Dot suggests that Eaiaden hold onto the ISK as a trusted third party. I figured since Eaiaden was a director he should understand my reasoning. Eaiaden, instead of holding onto it for the merger, takes the ISK and runs. Who could have seen that coming? That's OK, get this... he didn't run just anywhere, he ran to the alliance holding corporation! The very same holding corporation with the alliance wallet. Yeah, who's the one *ing to the alliance leadership now? Maybe he didn't have access to all the ISK he wanted, or maybe he wanted to bide his time... but he did return the ISK to TOTG... after a few days anyways. And because I had taken the ISK in the first place, Big Russ removes my directorship... again. Oh well. All that remains is a few corpmails to run logistics properly and then I'm out, so I don't need director anymore... not on Internet Knight, at least. My other characters, while they didn't have director, did have full access rights. And they were the ones I used to get all of the logistics done properly. So it's the day before I leave the corporation, and I log on my alt. First thing I notice is that people are **ing at me for taking the corp wallet again, and an evemail in alliance mail from Eaiaden stating that I am a corp thief and am to be shot on sight. Rather than contact me about it to hear an explaination, he ran straight to Hachou and tells him I'm a corp thief. It turns out that someone* had gained access to one of my alt accounts and buggered the corp wallet. Why didn't they take all of my alt's assets too? I don't know, maybe my login kicked them off while they were working on looking through his assets to see what'd be worth it. But you can bet your ass that I went and changed my password ASAP! And my second order of business was a petition to get that crap returned. ---
Zap powie The Accursed	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:12:00 - [8] C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!
Shubs Gallente D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:12:00 - [9] Holy mother wall of text! Pack it up, Pack it in, come on let it begin! - Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo -
Internet Knight The Knighthawks	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:12:00 - [10] Big Russ logged in shortly afterward. He said a few things. Actually, he said a lot of things. He emphasized everything that was said in the alliance mail. He was particularly harsh with the smack and slander. He stated that the corporation freighter was stolen, all corporation BPOs and minerals were stolen, a corporation starbase was stolen, and the wallet was emptied. Well, at the time he said all those things, I could confirm with my alt that the corporation wallet was stolen. I could see for myself that the log stated that my alt had emptied the entire corp wallet into another character's personal wallet, the character name Treks Dot recognized as an alt of an ex-member. I told Big Russ that I've been truthful up to this time... why would I stop being truthful now? Treks and I continually repeated to him what we knew to be the truth. We had no explaination for the corporation wallet going missing other than that ex-member had gained access to my alt's account. We told him that the "missing" freighter is not corporate owned. It is and always has been privately owned while loaned to the corporation for corporation use. We don't know what BPOs or minerals were missing, as we couldn't access any director hangar (an obvious sign we didn't take them). And the starbase was not missing, I had delivered it to Big Russ' personal hangar in our lowsec staging point two days prior. And the jump bridge which was attached to the starbase was destroyed because NO ONE was going to repair it when the starbase needed to be taken down. We even had an alliance op to repair it, and it never got finished. That just goes to show that no one really cared about that bridge. Suffice to say that this was the "nail in the coffin" as far as Big Russ is concerned. He wouldn't listen to reason. I couldn't even fly the freighter that he claimed was owned by the corporation, so how would I have gotten it out of IAC space? All he had to do to see the starbase was check his assets. And I couldn't take any BPOs or minerals as my limited hangar access prevented it. The only thing I could have stolen was the ISK out of the corp wallet. And neither would he believe me that I'd filed a petition about the matter. I consequently received the boot for something I didn't do. A week later, I received response from the GM handling my petition stating that the ISK has been returned to the corporation wallet and that my accounts have been temporarily banned for account sharing due to this. Say what? I'm not going to go into details here (that would be another EULA violation... ***ing CCP), but I will say two things before moving on. One, the LX5K-W campaign was long enough that I went on vacation while that was going on. And while I was on vacation, I had given Big Russ my account info so that he could maintain my skills. And I hadn't changed my password when I returned. Suffice to say that that resulted in a ban. It's pretty sad that to you have to train a stupidly long skill when you have no good* long skills to train or else face a EULA violation or wasted subscription time. And two, Big Russ wasn't banned for account sharing as far as I'm aware. Don't worry... while we have strayed a good deal away from the topic at the beginning of this, we're slowly coming full circle. ---

Internet Knight The Knighthawks	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:13:00 - [11] No. You see, when that shit went down, I got tired of Big Russ' shit. I had thought he was cool. I thought he was cool enough that I had given him my account info a year ago. Then he turned into an asswipe. So what did I do? I filed a petition. You see, Big Russ, for all of his coolness and stuff... he had one major failing. He had lots of money in real life, and he consistently made it clear to people he called enemies that he had "deep pockets". And to the people he called friends, he told them exactly how he was able to get away with RMT. First, he'd buy ISK and have the ISK be transferred from the seller to his "front line" character. His "front line" character would then transfer the ISK to some of his alts. His alts would then transfer the ISK to the corporation wallet. He would then take ISK from the corporation wallet and deposit it into his own personal wallet if he desired. Sometimes he left that dirty ISK there, in the corporation wallet. If one of his alts got nabbed, he wouldn't see reprimands on his main character. He'd simply be down an alt. And here's the kicker... being a TOTG director and having EVEMon with his characters loaded, I was able to see how often he purchased ISK, whether or not it went through the corp wallet. I'm telling you, he didn't stop at just a little bit of ISK to get him into that "special" ship, or for a birthday present, or something like that. No, I'm telling you, he's purchased somewhere in the neighborhood of thousands of dollars worth of ISK; several hundred dollars worth every month. The FREGE cynohighway to the drone regions? Partly paid for with tainted ISK. TOTG's deathstars in FREGE space? Paid for and maintained with tainted ISK. The LX5K-W campaign? All corporation assets there (starbases, some capitals) were bought with tainted ISK. Monthly carrier losses? Tainted ISK. New ships? Tainted ISK. TOTG's Cloud Ring efforts? Tainted ISK. TOTG's deathstars in IAC? Legitimate ISK... wait, what? Yup, this man has literally financed a considerable portion of an entire alliance with tainted ISK. When Big Russ dropped out of the picture from mid January to the end of February, so did the flow of "free" ISK. For the first time, directorship was able to actually monitor and maintain the corporation financials. ---
Ayeson Bears Inc Violent-Tendencies	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:14:00 - [12] it keeps going...and going...and going...and going...and going... Bears is Recruiting?
Internet Knight The Knighthawks	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:14:00 - [13] My temporary ban expired on the last day of May. When I logged in again, I found that nearly all members of TOTG had left for random corporations or else [SLAG] Slag Industries. It turns out that a friend of one of the directors of TOTG created Slag as a "new" alt corp since my alt corp was inaccessible while I was banned. The goals of Slag were to get standings high enough to get a new highsec starbase up and running. I also found out that I had been exhonerated from the slander when the GM returned the ISK to the corporation wallet. Well thank God something went right! To top it off, it turned out that Big Russ and all of his alts had finally been permabanned for his countless RMT activities. Well, that wasn't quite the effect I wanted (a temporary ban would have sufficed, to force him to cool down), but oh well. In fact, Big Russ managed to avoid the ban. As I later learned, he had taken over the account of a TOTG member that had been held in custodianship by a friend due to RL issues. Cool! So Big Russ is permanently banned, but he's still playing. And he now knows that I didn't frack him over blind as he said I had. He offered me my old position in TOTG back, or else as a grunt in SLAG. OK, call me naive, but I thought maybe I could give him one more chance. Since SLAG was supposed to be just an alt corp for which everyone's grinding missions to get standings up to put up a highsec starbase, I took my old position in TOTG back. Big Russ's new character kept CEO position, which is fine. He stated that he'd be joining TOTG on his new character, and we'd both join in on the Factional Warfare goodness. First thing I looked at when I rejoined and got my old directorship back was the wallet. It turns out that Elektro Dakken, a TOTG director, trasnferred the entirety of the TOTG wallet to SLAG. Haha, OK... maybe they really didn't trust me with the wallet anymore. That's fine, I don't care anymore. Two weeks went by, and Big Russ never came over for factional warfare. I contacted him out of game and found out that his "new" character got banned as well. Suffice to say he no longer wants to play EVE anymore. Apparently, he's tired of CCP's shit. So, I've taken over TOTG and I'll be turning out the lights when I'm ready to return to 0.0 space. It's come to my attention though, that SLAG has changed priorities. It's no longer focusing on grinding standings to get a highsec starbase. Instead, they're focusing on having fun doing missions and pirating. So it's not really an alt corp anyomre. SLAG has 1 week to transfer the 2.5B ISK which was generated by Treks Dot and myself back to TOTG or face the consequences. --- Yes, I know this thread is totally tl;dr, but it's something I've needed to say for a long time to get burdens off my shoulders. ---
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:19:00 - [14] Sorry to get in the middle of your copy pste job, but this is an enjoyable read, so hurry up. I got till mrs gets out of shower.... KIA EVE Home KIA in game Public Channel "KIA" KIA are Currently recruiting active PvP minded players. Contact Imperius Blackheart
Destoration Amarr Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:19:00 - [15] First page! Oh and internet knight is da bomb.
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:22:00 - [16] Great thread. Great read. KIA EVE Home KIA in game Public Channel "KIA" KIA are Currently recruiting active PvP minded players. Contact Imperius Blackheart
Ackaroth D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:23:00 - [17] Originally by: Internet Knight Our choices based solely on the economic value of the space which they were holding was: RAZOR Triumvirate IAC United Legion Knights of the Southern Cross You lumped us in with all of them? __________________________________________ -"This band I'm listening to is sooo underground, they released their first album as 60 minutes of silence." -"As an mp3?" -"As a word document..."
Shubs Gallente D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:30:00 - [18] Originally by: Ackaroth Originally by: Internet Knight Our choices based solely on the economic value of the space which they were holding was: RAZOR Triumvirate IAC United Legion Knights of the Southern Cross You lumped us in with all of them? this lol Pack it up, Pack it in, come on let it begin! - Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo -
Shubs Gallente D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:32:00 - [19] Originally by: KIAEddZ Sorry to get in the middle of your copy pste job, but this is an enjoyable read, so hurry up. I got till mrs gets out of shower.... Wait... i thought u said u dont get Laid* KIAEddZ > i dont have time to get layed :( KIAEddZ > anyways darlings KIAEddZ > see ya in p3 Pack it up, Pack it in, come on let it begin! - Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo -
Ayeson Bears Inc Violent-Tendencies	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:33:00 - [20] Edited by: Ayeson on 24/08/2008 01:34:08 Edited by: Ayeson on 24/08/2008 01:33:54 LOOK WHAT I MADE! Bears is Recruiting?

Shubs Gallente D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:34:00 - [21] Originally by: Ayeson Edited by: Ayeson on 24/08/2008 01:34:08 Edited by: Ayeson on 24/08/2008 01:33:54 LOOK WHAT I MADE! Epic Pack it up, Pack it in, come on let it begin! - Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo -
Destoration Amarr Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:39:00 - [22] Originally by: Shubs Originally by: Ayeson Edited by: Ayeson on 24/08/2008 01:34:08 Edited by: Ayeson on 24/08/2008 01:33:54 LOOK WHAT I MADE! Epic WTF? I made this picture and I have the psd to prove it. Noob you know I have all the photoshop skilz. -Desto
Ayeson Bears Inc Violent-Tendencies	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:39:00 - [23] Edited by: Ayeson on 24/08/2008 01:40:11 This thread got epically moderated...and i lost my first poast....NO FAIR! Bears is Recruiting?
matarkhan Soldi di Protezione	Posted - 2008.08.24 01:55:00 - [24] tl;dc. A Frege corp falls apart, and someone whines about 2.5b. CAOD post at 11.
Firkragg Blue Labs Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.24 02:13:00 - [25] Ok heres the TL;DR version for those who cant be bothered reading 1) CEO is away all the time 2) apparently entire corp is playing account sharing musical chairs 3) lots of drama which nobody cares about 4) lots of bannings for account sharing after internal drama caused by account sharing 5) lots of RMT stuff 6) This guy feels hes owed or something even though he was the one who got everyone banned for account sharing after his account sharing allowed somone to steal corp isk Basically its a comical tale about how EULA violations make bad things happen to stupid people.
PsychoBones Horrible Corp Name	Posted - 2008.08.24 02:35:00 - [26] Not a bad read tbh. Too bad we have no way of knowing how much is true. --------------------------------------------------------------
Lionel Richie The Commodores	Posted - 2008.08.24 02:51:00 - [27] You actually expect me to read all that?
Milkman Dani Gallente RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.08.24 02:58:00 - [28] Well, I read all of that in all it's great wall of text. I think, if you don't get that 2.5B back (and I'm pretty sure you won't), then I'd just drop it. Leave it to a past huge loss, chalk it up to something you hopefully learned for the future, and just move on. I seriously doubt you'll get that money, there isn't much you can do about it either, really. You can threaten them in game, but all they'd do is laugh. You could go after them, but they'd prolly just, A) camp you in some station; B) fight you; and C) continue on as normal and ignore you. You could go after them with a merc corp, in which case they'd just dock up and go /afk or taunt in local for as long as the dec lasted. Anyway, sucks that you went through all of that, and I'm glad that dude got banned for doing all that.
DFox31 North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.24 03:19:00 - [29] Is there some sort of an award for reading this all?
FaithMan Bad Blood. Disaster Factor	Posted - 2008.08.24 03:36:00 - [30] Nice story mate

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