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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.08.30 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Shaddowboss OK guys, I need a straight answer..coming back to the game starting from scratch..with the changes proposed, would you spec gallente at this time?(nvm the giant exclamation point, this char is a gallente soldier)..or, should I just go roll another damn caldari, amarr, or minnie? And, I'm talking for pve/pvp, fleet fights,frigate to battleship level, the whole package. I need an honest, informed opinion, please.
Caldari Achura, train for Raven, win Eve (PvE AND PvP)!
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Liang Nuren
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.08.30 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Shaddowboss OK guys, I need a straight answer..coming back to the game starting from scratch..with the changes proposed, would you spec gallente at this time?(nvm the giant exclamation point, this char is a gallente soldier)..or, should I just go roll another damn caldari, amarr, or minnie? And, I'm talking for pve/pvp, fleet fights,frigate to battleship level, the whole package. I need an honest, informed opinion, please.
It's usually not worth rerolling unless you think your character is fugly or you fubared your stats. Learning and support skills transfer remarkably well to any race.
That said, I would not train up any particular race until the dev blog comes out that explains all of our fates.
Gallente: Getting screwed by the web/blaster nerf. Caldari: Getting screwed (potentially) by the missile nerf. Minmatar: Getting the shaft all the way around. I don't recommend training this race unless the dev blog reveals massive projectile/Minmatar boosts. Amarr: This is a super solid choice. I can't imagine CCP not nerfing the hell out of them in a year or two (about the time you get really good at using them).
Starting out from scratch, I'd have to say that Caldari and Amarr are both really solid bets, because their entire design philosophy is geared towards group PVP, and solo PVP is going the way of the dodo.
-Liang -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. -- Mahatma Gandhi |
Shaddowboss
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Posted - 2008.08.30 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Shaddowboss OK guys, I need a straight answer..coming back to the game starting from scratch..with the changes proposed, would you spec gallente at this time?(nvm the giant exclamation point, this char is a gallente soldier)..or, should I just go roll another damn caldari, amarr, or minnie? And, I'm talking for pve/pvp, fleet fights,frigate to battleship level, the whole package. I need an honest, informed opinion, please.
It's usually not worth rerolling unless you think your character is fugly or you fubared your stats. Learning and support skills transfer remarkably well to any race.
That said, I would not train up any particular race until the dev blog comes out that explains all of our fates.
Gallente: Getting screwed by the web/blaster nerf. Caldari: Getting screwed (potentially) by the missile nerf. Minmatar: Getting the shaft all the way around. I don't recommend training this race unless the dev blog reveals massive projectile/Minmatar boosts. Amarr: This is a super solid choice. I can't imagine CCP not nerfing the hell out of them in a year or two (about the time you get really good at using them).
Starting out from scratch, I'd have to say that Caldari and Amarr are both really solid bets, because their entire design philosophy is geared towards group PVP, and solo PVP is going the way of the dodo.
-Liang
I agree with you about re-rolling, except this char is less than a day old..nothing invested yet, really..I did see that drones are now going to be affected by jamming..being an e-war pilot appeals to me..I just don't want to be another cookie-cutter achura..but those crazy stats are hard to ignore. anyways, I'll give it some thought. I appreciate the responses.
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Boz Well
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.30 20:29:00 -
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Go with achura female. They are secksie. |
Stab Wounds
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.08.30 20:37:00 -
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lyria seems to be the only person that knows how what's up in this thread.
blasters are going to be fine after patch get over it.
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Liang Nuren
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.08.30 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Stab Wounds lyria seems to be the only person that knows how what's up in this thread.
blasters are going to be fine after patch get over it.
"WAAHHHHH THEYRE NERFING MY MISSILES ONOES!"
Just to make sure you remember that thread. :)
-Liang -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. -- Mahatma Gandhi |
Liang Nuren
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.08.30 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Boz Well Go with achura female. They are secksie.
::primp:: I r hotz. I really kinda prefer the Khanid women though. Rawr! :)
-Liang -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. -- Mahatma Gandhi |
Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.08.30 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Stab Wounds lyria seems to be the only person that knows how what's up in this thread.
blasters are going to be fine after patch get over it.
"WAAHHHHH THEYRE NERFING MY MISSILES ONOES!"
Just to make sure you remember that thread. :)
-Liang
Gah! Beaten to it!
I just love how terribly wrong Stab is about everything.
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Gabriel Karade
Nulli-Secundus
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Posted - 2008.08.30 22:02:00 -
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Edited by: Gabriel Karade on 30/08/2008 22:02:38
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
Now, what can be done to help blasters? Well, a big damage boost would be welcome, and maybe a cap use cut. Since it's going to take more time to get to the target, and once there, you're going to be doing less damage thanks to the web nerf, you need to be using less cap to make up for the increased MWD use, and you need to do more damage per hit to compensate for less hits/less quality hits.
Boosting damage alone isn't going to help, they need to be able to hit in the first place; canĘt even hit a webbed cruiser within 1.5km no speed mods on Sisi, Battleship transversal also higher too meaning more misses up close. Anyway now's the perfect opportunity to fix the tracking formula at very close ęcanĘt-possibly-miss-the-broadside-of-a-barnĘ ranges...
P.S Does that stab guy do anything other than troll? --------------
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Wardeneo
DEADLY RENEGADE ELITE ASSASSIN MERC SQUAD Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.08.30 22:05:00 -
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Edited by: Wardeneo on 30/08/2008 22:07:00
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Boz Well Go with achura female. They are secksie.
::primp:: I r hotz. I really kinda prefer the Khanid women though. Rawr! :)
-Liang
lol! how my "how will gellente will be after the nerf thread" changed into what race is hotter is beyond me BUT it makes for good entertainment compared to "o what to fit my drake/raven/bb/kitsune with" threads goin on atm...
wardeneo
The best tactic to win a fight in eve is DPS!!! and if u cant do this or fail trying u need more DPS :) |
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.08.30 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Karade
Boosting damage alone isn't going to help, they need to be able to hit in the first place; canĘt even hit a webbed cruiser within 1.5km no speed mods on Sisi, Battleship transversal also higher too meaning more misses up close. Anyway now's the perfect opportunity to fix the tracking formula at very close ęcanĘt-possibly-miss-the-broadside-of-a-barnĘ ranges...
Well, my thinking was that super high damage would compensate for crappy hits in falloff or lots of misses at close range, but yeah, fixing the tracking formula makes more sense
Though a little damage boost wouldn't hurt...
Originally by: Gabriel Karade P.S Does that stab guy do anything other than troll?
No.
No he does not.
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Commander Solo
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.08.30 22:27:00 -
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Edited by: Commander Solo on 30/08/2008 22:30:17 Des, poasting in a gallente thread. Oh say it aint so!
<3
Im with des on this one though, after patch any large blaster ship is going to be epic fail.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.08.30 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Solo
Des, poasting in a gallente thread. Oh say it aint so!
I got drawn in by the phallicships...
Yeah, I WAS training up for large T2 blasters... now, not so much...
Good thing I already have PEW PEW LASERS trained up to AWESOME.
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Lusian
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Posted - 2008.09.03 01:36:00 -
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Nano ships are too fast. they need to be enrf'd plaine and simple. A nano battleship ? are you nuts ?
Why not just give all races infinate tracking. there problem solvd. Now we will all have something to complaine about. YOu nano FA@$ are rediculous. I hope most or all of the nano FA@$ quite when the nano nerf hits, OH NO I AM A NANO DORK AND I CANT OUR RUN THE SPEED OF LIGHT BECAUSE OF THE NANO NERF.....WHAT WILL I DO......
Cruisers outrunning an interceptor is obviousley way too overpowered. Ships like cruisers are not ment to go so fast let alone faster then the smaller ships. You guys are so lame.
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Liang Nuren
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.09.03 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: Lusian Nano ships are too fast. they need to be enrf'd plaine and simple. A nano battleship ? are you nuts ?
Why not just give all races infinate tracking. there problem solvd. Now we will all have something to complaine about. YOu nano FA@$ are rediculous. I hope most or all of the nano FA@$ quite when the nano nerf hits, OH NO I AM A NANO DORK AND I CANT OUR RUN THE SPEED OF LIGHT BECAUSE OF THE NANO NERF.....WHAT WILL I DO......
Cruisers outrunning an interceptor is obviousley way too overpowered. Ships like cruisers are not ment to go so fast let alone faster then the smaller ships. You guys are so lame.
While I like your random troll/flame, you really have to understand that the majority of this thread is actually about blaster tracking and how non-nano ships are going to fare.
Really, I think most Gallente pilots welcome a nano nerf. I rather do... CCP gave me over a year to get my ducks in a row for BS5. ;-)
-Liang -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. -- Mahatma Gandhi |
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