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FireFoxx80
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.09.24 20:26:00 -
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It just show bubbles :(
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Bish Ounen
Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.09.24 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Control Queue has nothing against my salvo of clicks.
Would you say that they were, perhaps even a fusillade of clicks? Tactical Logistics using the last T1 Frigate hull!
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Bish Ounen
Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.09.24 20:33:00 -
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OMG!    
The tank is COMPLETELY overgrown with Algae!
CLEAN YOUR TANK CCP!! Tactical Logistics using the last T1 Frigate hull!
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CCP Whisper

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Posted - 2008.09.24 20:34:00 -
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There is algae growing on the dome that has trapped air bubbles. Somewhere in the pump circuit there's either a pinhole leak or cavitation causing bubbles. It is rather annoying. But the camera dome assembly is going to be modified in the next weeks so we'll clean it up then. It needs to be shortened a bit as it sticks into the tank too far right now.
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FireFoxx80
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.09.24 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Whisper There is algae growing on the dome that has trapped air bubbles. Somewhere in the pump circuit there's either a pinhole leak or cavitation causing bubbles. It is rather annoying. But the camera dome assembly is going to be modified in the next weeks so we'll clean it up then. It needs to be shortened a bit as it sticks into the tank too far right now.
Make it closer to the CCP people too!
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2008.09.24 23:18:00 -
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I see there are now some photos of fish on the flickr feed. On the Reef Central thread there's a list of the first order of livestock:
Quote: Sixline Wrasse 1 Bicolour Gramma 1 Firefish Purple 2 Bicolour Blenny 1 Sailfin Tang 1 anthias dispar 5 Anthias squamipinnis(m) 5 Anthias squamipinnis(f) 5 Trochus snail 20 Hermit crab 20
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.09.24 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Bish Ounen OMG!    
The tank is COMPLETELY overgrown with Algae!
CLEAN YOUR TANK CCP!!
Boost Suckerfish!
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.09.25 01:27:00 -
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That control is gastly, is there any sort of auto focus on that camera? It took me like 5 minutes of playing with the controls to finally realize that whatever I was looking at was like hair in water or something. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase:
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Norwest
Prima Civitas
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Posted - 2008.09.25 01:55:00 -
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You can turn on auto focus in the control panel (accessible by a button on the right); though there isn't mush to see at the moment between the bubbles, algae, and lack of livestock in the tank. ***** Rule 27: 'Don't be afraid to be the first to resort to violence.' -The Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates [schlockmercenary.com] |

EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.09.25 07:15:00 -
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who ate all the fish? all i can see is ... bubbles
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CCP Whisper

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Posted - 2008.09.25 09:42:00 -
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There are currently only three Anthias in the big tank. There is a bit more livestock currently going through quarantine in the sump room. Yes, this aquarium has an entire sump room. It uses more hardware and plumbing than some houses, but I suppose that is all part of the fun.
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Neo Rainhart
Caldari Leela's Lamas
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Posted - 2008.09.25 10:13:00 -
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I saw nothing! only seaweeds and stuff, and they joystic option made my head twist..give me 2 mins of my life back 

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Bish Ounen
Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.09.25 16:05:00 -
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For those that need focus, there is a "Ctrl Panel" button on the lower right-hand side of the interface. This opens a panel on the left. At the top is an on/off for the auto focus. There are also several other controls.
Of course, since the camera dome is overgrown with Algae, auto focus is useless, since it just focuses in on the air bubbles trapped by the algae.
Seriously guys, how hard is it to roll up a sleeve, grab the magnetic tank scraper I saw hanging off the tank (the scrubby side) and just scrub off the dome? It'd take 10 minutes, tops to clean off the dome and then dry your arm.
I've had quite a few fish tanks in my time (Tropical fish are a family hobby for my extended family) and it's really NOT that hard to clean a tank. Keep in mind, fish are VERY sensitive to EM fields, and a remote camera puts out a PILE of local EM. It's likely the fish won't go NEAR the dome to clean it, no matter how much algae is on it. Tactical Logistics using the last T1 Frigate hull!
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CCP Whisper

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Posted - 2008.09.25 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Bish Ounen Seriously guys, how hard is it to roll up a sleeve, grab the magnetic tank scraper I saw hanging off the tank (the scrubby side) and just scrub off the dome? It'd take 10 minutes, tops to clean off the dome and then dry your arm.
To get to the camera dome with any sort of sc****r we have to first remove about three large, heavy metal panels to gain access to the top of the tank. Then we have to hoist the light armature the camera is attached to up and out, lean quite a ways forward to clean it and then reverse the entire process. The whole procedure takes about half an hour, not including moving the furniture in the rec room which is the only side we have access to and finding the ladder.
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The TX
Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.09.25 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Whisper
Originally by: Bish Ounen Seriously guys, how hard is it to roll up a sleeve, grab the magnetic tank scraper I saw hanging off the tank (the scrubby side) and just scrub off the dome? It'd take 10 minutes, tops to clean off the dome and then dry your arm.
To get to the camera dome with any sort of sc****r we have to first remove about three large, heavy metal panels to gain access to the top of the tank. Then we have to hoist the light armature the camera is attached to up and out, lean quite a ways forward to clean it and then reverse the entire process. The whole procedure takes about half an hour, not including moving the furniture in the rec room which is the only side we have access to and finding the ladder.
I think perhaps you've let it get murky in there for some sort of sexual party that you want to host but don't want us watching.... dirty, DIRTY ccp.....
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Bish Ounen
Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.09.25 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: Bish Ounen on 25/09/2008 16:30:47
Originally by: CCP Whisper To get to the camera dome with any sort of sc****r we have to first remove about three large, heavy metal panels to gain access to the top of the tank. Then we have to hoist the light armature the camera is attached to up and out, lean quite a ways forward to clean it and then reverse the entire process. The whole procedure takes about half an hour, not including moving the furniture in the rec room which is the only side we have access to and finding the ladder.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but if it takes half an hour just to OPEN the top of your fish tank, You're doin' it wrong.
Seriously, unless you have a real concern about Employees putting crap into the tank, it should simply be a matter of grabbing a step-stool or small ladder from a nearby closet, lifting up a hinged wood or plexiglass cover with a stick-prop to hold it up, reaching into the tank with your arm, and wiping off the dome. It's not like we can't see the tank from the camera. It's not THAT big.
Also, a light for a salt water aquarium should be suspended ABOVE the tank to prevent "hotspotting" the water. Alternately, the light needs to be well-insulated from the top of the tank by very thick plexiglass, which needs to be supported by a frame, which should have a hinged lid right on it for easy feeding. Large metal plates (which will have corrosion issues on a sal****er tank) should NOT be in use above a fishtank.
Frankly, I think you need to have a talk with the people who set up the tank for you. it sounds like you have a very hodge-podge tank lid setup there.
I'd be interested to see some snappies of that lid, I might be able to suggest some alternate arrangements. Tactical Logistics using the last T1 Frigate hull!
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.09.25 16:31:00 -
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I still want a camera aimed at whisper's monitor so I can be one step ahead of him in getting to open threads.
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CCP Whisper

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Posted - 2008.09.25 17:03:00 -
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Yes, people putting stuff into the tank is a concern. There are over 200 people in our office and lots of traffic through the recreation room where this tank is located. While we have not had to fish anything out of the tank yet, prevention is better than cure in this case. The tank and it's enclosure are also meant to be visually attractive, as it is part of our office and not sitting in the basement or the garage. The lights are mounted above the tank on aluminium armatures suspended from the ceiling. And I assume that the team who chose and mounted them did their research before deciding on the types of bulb and such. We are not buying this aquarium as a complete setup from some company, it is being designed by various CCP employees who are are their spare time to this project. If you're interested in seeing shots of the setup, there's plenty posted in this Flickr account.
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Bish Ounen
Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.09.26 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Whisper Yes, people putting stuff into the tank is a concern. There are over 200 people in our office and lots of traffic through the recreation room where this tank is located. While we have not had to fish anything out of the tank yet, prevention is better than cure in this case. The tank and it's enclosure are also meant to be visually attractive, as it is part of our office and not sitting in the basement or the garage. The lights are mounted above the tank on aluminium armatures suspended from the ceiling. And I assume that the team who chose and mounted them did their research before deciding on the types of bulb and such. We are not buying this aquarium as a complete setup from some company, it is being designed by various CCP employees who are are their spare time to this project. If you're interested in seeing shots of the setup, there's plenty posted in this Flickr account.
Thanks for that link, those are some great shots!
First of all, I am going to have to make an apology. The webcam image is deceptive, that tank is significantly larger than I thought it was. I was quite obviously wrong about the tank size, and that threw off my entire thought process regarding the arrangement of the tank lid. I apologize for making dumb assumptions. My Bad.
On a tank that size, a plexi lid isn't practical at all, unless you intend to build a very sturdy frame using welded aluminum angle-bar. Ultimately, the best situation is largely what you already have. Several large frames suspended above the tank holding the lights. Incidentally, the workmanship on those lights is first rate. Kudos to you guys for putting those together.
Unfortunately, there aren't any good shots of the camera suspension setup, so I can't get a good idea of what's going on there.
I guess, in the end the best I can suggest is to perhaps mount the camera on an adjustable armature (like a desk lamp type arm) So that you can easily swing it up and out for cleaning. I seriously doubt that the fish will keep the dome clean, you are gonna need to be in there cleaning it constantly.
Alternately, just mount the camera outside the tank. But that's much less cool.
I look forward to seeing more images on that flickr account! Tactical Logistics using the last T1 Frigate hull!
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CCP Whisper

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Posted - 2008.09.26 07:45:00 -
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No need to apologise. The tank's size takes everyone by surprise at first...I actually think it is one of the largest privately owned sal****er aquariums in Europe at this point. It's taken about two years of design, planning and construction to get it to this point.
The camera is mounted inside a plexiglass pipe with one end sealed with the dome. This pipe is attached to a length of plexiglass so the whole assembly forms a T-shape that is then bolted onto the middle light armature. This serves two purposes, the first being that the weight of the lights armature holds the camera down into the water. The second being that the armature keeps the camera steady, despite there being some powerful pumps blasting away at or near the dome. Those Tunze's move a lot of water for their size.
Mounting the camera outside the tank is a lot less cool and we would have lots of distortion from the glass when people swivel the camera around. It's about an inch thick and if I remember correctly weighs almost half a ton without water.
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Helen Hunts
Gallente Red Dragon Mining inc Red Dragon Industries
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Posted - 2008.09.26 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Whisper I actually think it is one of the largest privately owned sal****er aquariums in Europe at this point.
Salt-water.... Picky little profanity filter, eh?
Even with the bubbles, I was able to focus a little further out with the controls and see actual people walking and talking, but clear images are pretty much a lost cause at this point. _______________________________
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