Originally by: Kyle Klanen

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If you read the article posted on the EVE news center finally someone from CCP confirms the transition of EVE into the "mainstream" and details how gamers are put off by the game mechanics. If you look at the recent changes and the proposed changes it all makes sense, EVE now has battlegrounds and war decs are going to be nerfed and suicide ganking is being nerfed, the lofty scam was nerfed and very recently the long used tactic of joining a corp to ambush war targets has been declared an exploit even though its been used for years, who knows what other changes are coming even though "the game will not be changed".

Welcome to the world of EVEcraft

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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker

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Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 26/08/2008 23:04:17
Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 26/08/2008 23:02:25
Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 26/08/2008 23:01:45

Originally by: Kyle Klanen

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If you read the article posted on the EVE news center finally someone from CCP confirms the transition of EVE into the "mainstream" and details how gamers are put off by the game mechanics. If you look at the recent changes and the proposed changes it all makes sense, EVE now has battlegrounds and war decs are going to be nerfed and suicide ganking is being nerfed, the lofty scam was nerfed and very recently the long used tactic of joining a corp to ambush war targets has been declared an exploit even though its been used for years, who knows what other changes are coming even though "the game will not be changed".

Welcome to the world of EVEcraft

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Either you are a clueless n00b (from the look of your exclamation picture), who simply dont understand EVE. Or you are a troll who created an alt for trolling.

EVE will always have a place for scammers!ö
Seeing I am taking you for being a stupid n00b I wont bother report the thread for trolling.

However, I would advice you to find yourself a different bridge to flame from. We prefer to keep the forums as clean as possible from trolls and cluecless lemmings who dont know jack bout the game.

Some parts from story:

Originally by: from story

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ô EVE will always have a place for scammers!ö

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Originally by: from story

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Finally, Dr. E explained that new players are often intimidated by the complexity of EVEÆs design and game mechanics.

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And:

Originally by: from story

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However, he assured us that while the game will not change at all,[...]

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just to mention a few things from the given article.

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Originally by: Kyle Klanen

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If you read the article posted on the EVE news center finally someone from CCP confirms the transition of EVE into the "mainstream" and details how gamers are put off by the game mechanics. If you look at the recent changes and the proposed changes it all makes sense, EVE now has battlegrounds and war decs are going to be nerfed and suicide ganking is being nerfed, the lofty scam was nerfed and very recently the long used tactic of joining a corp to ambush war targets has been declared an exploit even though its been used for years, who knows what other changes are coming even though "the game will not be changed".

Welcome to the world of EVEcraft

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Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto

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All piracy is built upon honoring one's word.

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Originally by: Kyle Klanen

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Welcome to the world of EVEcraft

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My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.

Originally by: Kyle Klanen

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Not crying at all, I just like the fact someone from CCP finally confirms the shift in game design.

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Originally by: CCP Wrangler

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Second, a gentile is a non jewish person

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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny

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I get to be a night elf!!!!

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However, he assured us that while the game will not change at all, they do have a team working on how to help new players entering space for the first time. Being an academic himself, Dr. E said that you can always see great growth from education in any environment. EVE hope to bring this impact to new players entering their game.

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Originally by: An Anarchyyt

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Who would trust Dr E? The man doesn't even know the meaning of the word "quarterly."

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Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari

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F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said

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Originally by: Chribba

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Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows

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Originally by: Kyra Felann

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However, he assured us that while the game will not change at all, they do have a team working on how to help new players entering space for the first time. Being an academic himself, Dr. E said that you can always see great growth from education in any environment. EVE hope to bring this impact to new players entering their game.

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You need to train Reading Comprehension to at least 1.

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Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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All that said though, the ability to easily create conditions where a player corp can arbitrarily bypass the penalties for non-consensual combat in highsec space is unjustifiable as a design goal, and indeed flatly contradicts core design elements (the existance of highsec space) for no good reason. This applies doubly so while the mechanics necessarily compel players to leave social structures (corporations) in order to avoid becoming victim to such mechanics. If it can cleanly be removed, it should be. Allowing a player corp full of hardened combat veterans to pay a relatively small amount of money and be able to freely and without penalty attack a small group of players with whom they have absolutely no past relationship and who represent neither any kind of threat nor any kind of challenge and whose death will generate no rewards is absolutely a pay-to-grief system - indeed, it's a definitive example - and I don't see how it has any place in this game. And no, the phrase "cold uncaring universe" is not shorthand for "griefer's paradise", as the latter would contain far too many elements of pure farce to qualify as the kind of serious setting that I believe was the original intent behind the phrase.



tl;dr I have no intention of apologizing for the things I have said on this issue - I stand by them completely, and I fully support Hammer's position on the subject as well, both because I believe the position they represent is fully justified and because to support the contrary opinion (that it's OK for people to grief if they feel like it provided they jump through one small hoop first) would IMO lead the game down a path which would kill it stone dead, and I have no intention of letting that happen

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Originally by: Marchocias

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Edited by: Marchocias on 03/09/2008 12:35:47
OP has failed. Unlucky.
Try succeeding next time - its usually more successful.

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Originally by: Kyle Klanen

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If you read the article posted on the EVE news center finally someone from CCP confirms the transition of EVE into the "mainstream" and details how gamers are put off by the game mechanics. If you look at the recent changes and the proposed changes it all makes sense, EVE now has battlegrounds and war decs are going to be nerfed and suicide ganking is being nerfed, the lofty scam was nerfed and very recently the long used tactic of joining a corp to ambush war targets has been declared an exploit even though its been used for years, who knows what other changes are coming even though "the game will not be changed".

Welcome to the world of EVEcraft

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Originally by: Banana Torres

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Boys, and you are mainly boys, the world of gaming is changing and you can blame Nintendo for the change. Instead of playing catchup with the XBox and PS2 they went their own way and created that wittle marvel, the Wii.

And just look at its sales figures. And then look at the demographics of its buyers. And then are you won't be surprised that any games company which has any ambition wants to emulate them.

So if you are a hardcore gamer, the future is a bit glum for you. All I can offer as a bit of advice is.... adapt or die.

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Originally by: MineralOel Steuer

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Originally by: Kyle Klanen

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If you read the article posted on the EVE news center finally someone from CCP confirms the transition of EVE into the "mainstream" and details how gamers are put off by the game mechanics. If you look at the recent changes and the proposed changes it all makes sense, EVE now has battlegrounds and war decs are going to be nerfed and suicide ganking is being nerfed, the lofty scam was nerfed and very recently the long used tactic of joining a corp to ambush war targets has been declared an exploit even though its been used for years, who knows what other changes are coming even though "the game will not be changed".

Welcome to the world of EVEcraft

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If this would be WOW in Space, then you would be the worst Troll ever.

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Originally by: Kyle Klanen

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Here is a CCP dev describing a pvp activity that has been allowed and acceptable since the game began as "Griefing" and you and others claim there has been no large shift in the devs philosophy and the game wont change?

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