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Shinzann
Sten Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.28 03:37:00 -
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Was watching one of the Leipzig interviews over at mmorpg.com when this little nugget of information was released:
Quote: On the heels of EA 1.1 will be EA 1.2, which will make up for the lack of obvious content by bringing in new missions, and a new certificate system that will allow players to actually produce credentials (like a university degree or diploma) that proves to other players what skills your player possesses. Not only is it good for this use, we are told, but it also gives newer players something to work toward in terms of their skill advancement.
I like this idea. I like it a lot.
My only little fear in the back of my mind is that these certificates bear a slight resemblance to levels.
Just wanted to share that with folks. === Q u o t e: If the servers aren't up, its not a hotfix. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.08.28 03:41:00 -
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Eve skills showroom and many other 3rd party sites, alongside the EVE API (limited keys) already allow a much better overview. This only makes it less likely to get some false data if you're not even the least bit careful about it.
If anything, it's just a small hint for newer players about what's expected from them in various "fields".
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Wrayeth
Trans Eve Organization
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Posted - 2008.08.28 03:42:00 -
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Edited by: Wrayeth on 28/08/2008 03:43:17 Depending on how it's implemented, this could be a very good thing. It would give new players (and even old players starting new alts) a guide to what skills they need to train without having to consult a third party app or the like.
For instance, if I were starting a new alt I'd constantly have to consult my current character sheet and the market to figure out what I needed to train since it's been so long since I've done anything with most of my basic skills. -Wrayeth n00b Extraordinaire "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!" |
Tiuwaz
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.08.28 03:47:00 -
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Originally by: Wrayeth Edited by: Wrayeth on 28/08/2008 03:43:17 Depending on how it's implemented, this could be a very good thing. It would give new players (and even old players starting new alts) a guide to what skills they need to train without having to consult a third party app or the like.
For instance, if I were starting a new alt I'd constantly have to consult my current character sheet and the market to figure out what I needed to train since it's been so long since I've done anything with most of my basic skills.
pretty much this, it should give new players some much needed orientation as to what they need to skill up to be effective at certain roles ___________________________________
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.28 03:51:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Eve skills showroom and many other 3rd party sites, alongside the EVE API (limited keys) already allow a much better overview. This only makes it less likely to get some false data if you're not even the least bit careful about it.
If anything, it's just a small hint for newer players about what's expected from them in various "fields".
True, but it's always good when we don't have to rely on 3rd-party site for our info.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Krystal Engle
Amarr Secretariate
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Posted - 2008.08.28 04:05:00 -
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The only concern I have with this is how we will be able to:
1.) Represent these certificates to others. 2.) Mark them as completed.
Representation
I envision two possible methods here that might work well, without revealing them to the general public. The first involves a modification to the Trade system where we can drag-n-drop from our Certificates sub-window (as shown as part of the Character Sheet) to the Trade window itself. They would be auto converted into Certificate Items, just like the datasheets and other roleplaying type items already established.
The second method would be via a modication to contracts, whereas again you could represent your certificates of achievement by creating an information type contraction (new obviously) for someone's perusal. One of the steps in this contract is to select which Certificates to build into the contract.
I just thought of a new method while writing this. Corporation Applications. Corporations that are recruiting (and if I recall correctly, it was mentioned in the interview) could impose Certificate requirements, and your application (which the process is frankly lacking, imho) could entail disclosing your qualifications.
Completion
Pretty simple here. Certificates are purchased from NPC (and later from recognized Corporations that act as Training Facilities, ala Eve University, after we get Tech III of course, heh) corporations, and you then right-click them, choose "Qualify" and it either affirms it for you, marking it as completed or not.
Just my thoughts based on my initial reaction(s) to the interview. Discuss? -- D a m n a t i o n FC Personal Stats |
Treelox
Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.08.28 04:05:00 -
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I dont really see that much need for this new feature.
That said I am not going to emo nerd rage protest it.
I do hope though that when it is implemented, that if these certificates are publically viewable, that there is an opition to disable them. I would hate to give away such intel as what your pvp abilites are away so easily to a prospective enemy.
Originally by: "Shinzann" My only little fear in the back of my mind is that these certificates bear a slight resemblance to levels.
I to have a similar fear. Not so much towards levels, per say. More that it will make players think there is a "right" way to do things, as opposed to the open sandbox model we have all been told is what eve is about.
I will once again state, I am not going to bother to emo nerd rage over the subject till we see some "offical" postings on this feature. Since the mechanics of it at this time are still unknown to the masses. --
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Clair Bear
Coalition of Nations Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.08.28 05:01:00 -
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I've already *GOT* my Caldari Graduation Certificate (signed). What more could I possibly want?
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Pinel
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.28 05:19:00 -
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They also may be good use for helping identify certain scams or give a tiny bit of help on spies or whatnot now a person can't claim to have certain skills you'll be able to see their certificates and know what's up
just an idea.
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Iron Overlord
Gateway Industries House of Mercury
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Posted - 2008.08.28 05:40:00 -
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Edited by: Iron Overlord on 28/08/2008 05:40:31 From a CEO's point of view, this could help weed out spies and corp thieves. See if they have the skills they're claiming. I think people will use this system, for various reasons.
Edit: see post above me :)
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TimMc
Gallente Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.08.28 06:12:00 -
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I want a certificate on my wall that says I trained BS5
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ImUrDestiny
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.08.28 08:41:00 -
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Originally by: Iron Overlord From a CEO's point of view, this could help weed out spies and corp thieves. See if they have the skills they're claiming.
Yes, because then you can completely trust that person.
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.28 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc I want a certificate on my wall that says I trained BS5
Only if I get one for each race trained.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Nypon
Unseen University
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Posted - 2008.08.28 09:30:00 -
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www.ineve.net (API verified) > Certificates.
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uzumoreru
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Posted - 2008.08.28 10:55:00 -
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These things better be optional, and certainly not tied to the character sheet so people can see what I could be sneaking up on them in.....
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.08.28 11:02:00 -
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Almost pointless, and already superseded by player tools. Hopefully it at least won't break anything. -
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Eran Laude
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.08.28 11:09:00 -
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As long as they're toggle-able, I think it's a great idea. I would love to have some more direction when it comes to skills in the game. There should hopefully be a way of just letting people in your addressbook or in your corp/alliance seeing them, or even more limited than that. Other than that, go for it CCP. Can't wait for early september now.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.08.28 11:13:00 -
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/me flashes his level 5 drone card
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Eran Laude
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.08.28 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa /me flashes his level 5 drone card
Stop it! It's too shiny!!!! AAAAAARRRGGHHHH!!!!
* Eran Laude dies
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Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2008.08.28 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc I want a certificate on my wall that says I trained BS5
Here you go!
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CCP Greyscale
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Posted - 2008.08.28 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Wrayeth Edited by: Wrayeth on 28/08/2008 03:43:17 Depending on how it's implemented, this could be a very good thing. It would give new players (and even old players starting new alts) a guide to what skills they need to train without having to consult a third party app or the like.
For instance, if I were starting a new alt I'd constantly have to consult my current character sheet and the market to figure out what I needed to train since it's been so long since I've done anything with most of my basic skills.
This is one facet of the design, yes. It also works to let older players who are feeling a little aimless find new things to train and new avenues of advancement, flags up areas where more work could be done or where a few extra skills could open up a whole new area, lets you see how specialized you are and adds to your general epeen level. It also opens up possibilities in terms of recruitment and recruitment adverts and so on in future, although that's not an area that's currently being implemented in our first iteration.
On the subject of sandboxes and ship setups and so on, when we actually looked at this we found that, while there are obviously a huge variety of setups for any one ship, there's often a core set of skills that you'll almost always want for that ship. For example, the vast majority of Apocalypse setups are going to want to make use of the Large Enery Turrets skill, and similarly the skills for the Interdiction Sphere Launcher are pretty useful if you want to fly Interdictors. That said, nothing we're working on is strongly prescriptive - recommendations are good, additional requirements are bad.
There'll probably be a dev blog on this at some point
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Onyx Asablot
M. Corp Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.08.28 11:45:00 -
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I'm wondering if it will go beyond skills? Ie to get the megathron pilot certificate you need the relevant player skills and ALSO get five (for example) player kills using a megathron...
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Sig Freed
Amarr Darkstorm Command Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.28 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Onyx Asablot I'm wondering if it will go beyond skills? Ie to get the megathron pilot certificate you need the relevant player skills and ALSO get five (for example) player kills using a megathron...
I agree. As a tackler, I hope that if there were such a certificate for that specialty, its not simply "get skills propulsion jamming to X and interceptors to Y".
Having a number of successful points or webs on a target resulting in ship destruction would be a better criteria imo.
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Wrayeth
Trans Eve Organization
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Posted - 2008.08.28 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Greyscale
This is one facet of the design, yes. It also works to let older players who are feeling a little aimless find new things to train and new avenues of advancement, flags up areas where more work could be done or where a few extra skills could open up a whole new area, lets you see how specialized you are and adds to your general epeen level. It also opens up possibilities in terms of recruitment and recruitment adverts and so on in future, although that's not an area that's currently being implemented in our first iteration.
On the subject of sandboxes and ship setups and so on, when we actually looked at this we found that, while there are obviously a huge variety of setups for any one ship, there's often a core set of skills that you'll almost always want for that ship. For example, the vast majority of Apocalypse setups are going to want to make use of the Large Enery Turrets skill, and similarly the skills for the Interdiction Sphere Launcher are pretty useful if you want to fly Interdictors. That said, nothing we're working on is strongly prescriptive - recommendations are good, additional requirements are bad.
There'll probably be a dev blog on this at some point
Sounds good. Can't wait to see how it turns out. -Wrayeth n00b Extraordinaire "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!" |
Hegbard
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Posted - 2008.08.28 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Greyscale adds to your general epeen level
This is what's good to read from the devs. Not dry press-release type statements, but real thoughts, not filtered through corporate policy and politically correct filters.
:)
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.08.28 12:42:00 -
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Achievements, in my EVE?
Heh, I like this. Not sure if it was intended to hop the achievement system bandwagon with this, but it is certainly a nice variation of that aside from the intended purposes. Then again, one could argue that EVE is the ultimate achievement game because of the way skilltraining works.
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Nexus Kinnon
A Few Good Men.
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Posted - 2008.08.28 12:43:00 -
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That's a bit... well, it wasn't as good as I expected it to be Greyscale. I was hoping for some type of system in which player corporations could issue certificates - like EVE Uni could issue a "I'm not a noob" certificate to people who've graduated, or Agony could issue certificates for people passing their "PVP-Basic" courses.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.28 13:50:00 -
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I can say that we have a system for displaying character skills, which automatically checks requirements for certain ship classes and gives info, what type of ship the player is capable of flying. It even creates an automatic skillplan for EVEmon that is based on ship requirements.
Needless to say, the ship and skill requirements are often subject of heated discussion. You have been warned CCP.
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Iron Overlord
Gateway Industries House of Mercury
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Posted - 2008.08.28 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: ImUrDestiny
Originally by: Iron Overlord From a CEO's point of view, this could help weed out spies and corp thieves. See if they have the skills they're claiming.
Yes, because then you can completely trust that person.
Re-read my post before you sarcastically attribute to me things I didn't say. You will find no indication that I thought you could then trust that person (even a little bit more). It's like a drug test - just because someone passes a particular test, it doesn't mean they're clean - but that test will catch some users. That is the logic I was using.
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Lyvv
Amarr Personal Vendetta Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2008.08.28 14:20:00 -
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Good idea, if the pilots are given the choice to display or make public their skills like that. Its nice to have a little surprise on your side in PVP
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Helios III
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Posted - 2008.08.28 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Greyscale
adds to your general epeen level.
Excellent, I support this 100%.
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E PEEN
ECP Rogues
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Posted - 2008.08.28 14:34:00 -
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Me too, moar E PEEN levels!
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Elite Marksman
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Posted - 2008.08.28 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: Elite Marksman on 28/08/2008 14:41:49
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
There'll probably be a dev blog on this at some point
You mean like the dev blog explaining why the speed changes on Sisi were rolled back?
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Elendar
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.08.28 14:55:00 -
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Guildwars has titles for ages, wow is getting achievements next patch, War will have them.
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Daelin Blackleaf
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.08.28 15:01:00 -
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I like the idea, it'll mean less corps asking for so-many-million combat SP's and more asking for either a certificate in X, Y, or Z which will probably be a much lower entry requirement than before.
The trick is making them both easy to present and easy to hide.
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Clair Bear
Coalition of Nations Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.08.28 15:05:00 -
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So do we get skills to forge and otherwise falsify certificates too? Because, I like totally want my '70th level epeen' cert, but I'm too lazy to work for it.
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Nexus Kinnon
A Few Good Men.
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Posted - 2008.08.28 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Greyscale
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon That's a bit... well, it wasn't as good as I expected it to be Greyscale. I was hoping for some type of system in which player corporations could issue certificates - like EVE Uni could issue a "I'm not a noob" certificate to people who've graduated, or Agony could issue certificates for people passing their "PVP-Basic" courses.
It's intentionally designed as a lightweight, extensible system which can be implemented quickly and neatly while having room for further features, such as this one, in future. There's a lot of other things we can do with it, and we've got several in various stages of design already, but iteration one is what it is for now.
Also, it's not an achivement system.
Thanks for the reply - Am looking forward to corp issued certificates.
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Nekopyat
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Posted - 2008.08.28 15:23:00 -
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Ok, I am baffled here.
What exactly are these for? What is the use-case of this feature?
I guess I can see CEOs having a use for verification of skills of the people try bring in, but that is about all I can see atm that is not already eclipsed by existing 3rd party utitlies.
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sableye
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.08.28 16:04:00 -
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I'm a jack of all trades expert in none :)
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Mara Rinn
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.28 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Nekopyat What exactly are these for? What is the use-case of this feature?
Certificates seem to me to be a way of replacing the interaction with the community achieved by asking "what skills do I need to fly a Raven in level 4 missions."
Some people don't like the type of interaction they get, which more or less amounts to non-consensual Forum PvP.
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Something Random
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.08.28 16:34:00 -
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Curious. It sounds interesting now that greyscale has given an overview of its implementation, im often found scratching my head trying to figure out what skill tree id like to follow of the many ive scratched the surface to. I know it only takes a short while to work out your route but perhaps being able to see the trees expanding will be a nice addition. I hope so.
Id like to see the dev blog as soon as possible.
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Xevan Templar
7th Batavian Squadron
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Posted - 2008.08.28 16:52:00 -
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Not that I'm 'deeply worried' by it, but it feels abit like when someone in WOW (oh I said it) is comming standing next to you, 'to check out your gear'.
Followed offcourse by 'lol you trained diplomacy to level 4, NOOB !! 111! '
If it gets implemented, at least I would vote to make it optional to have it displayed or not. Like mentioned in some other post to hide your pvp background (say you're a covert up dude or whatever)
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Shinzann
Sten Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.29 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf I like the idea, it'll mean less corps asking for so-many-million combat SP's and more asking for either a certificate in X, Y, or Z which will probably be a much lower entry requirement than before.
The trick is making them both easy to present and easy to hide.
That was another concern that I had about this idea, but I'm sure they'll have it mostly figured out when EA 1.2 rolls out. === Q u o t e: If the servers aren't up, its not a hotfix. |
Synapse Archae
Amarr Demonic Retribution Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.08.29 01:42:00 -
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For replying to a forum post and giving us details. keep on communicating!
Originally by: CCP Garthagk While these forums may not give you everything that you want, they will usually let you post.
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.08.29 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn
Originally by: Nekopyat What exactly are these for? What is the use-case of this feature?
Certificates seem to me to be a way of replacing the interaction with the community achieved by asking "what skills do I need to fly a Raven in level 4 missions."
Some people don't like the type of interaction they get, which more or less amounts to non-consensual Forum PvP.
I don't understand how having a certificate "these are my skills" helps with that at all, to be honest.
Unless you're suggesting something like "qualify for this certificate however you like, once you've got it you've got the basics of raven skills down".
Which I guess is cool, but then instead of just getting a list of skills they have to go find the certificate and get the list of skills off of that.
I don't know, this seems really pointless here, and I think I'm missing something. __________________________________
Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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Dez Affinity
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 02:24:00 -
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Seems to me it's just a rip off of Achievements from WoW and Titles from Guild Wars. Am I wrong? _______________
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Prieith
VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.29 02:54:00 -
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So eventually i'll have to buy an appartment in a station where i can hang them up on the wall for others to view, and then i need a few chairs so they can sit down and relax, a bed, a robot to make my bed ready and my meals for when i return, some lightning, throw in a few pets i have collected through missions, radio controlled space ships gained from spending loyalty points, and god knows what else....
hmm, i played that game before.....
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Ordais
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Posted - 2008.08.29 05:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dez Affinity Seems to me it's just a rip off of Achievements from WoW and Titles from Guild Wars. Am I wrong?
Not everything other games have is "bad" ok? The skill system of eve always was and is overhelming, everything that helps in that regard is welcome, especially for noobs. And not everyone wants to use 3rd-party tools to show someone what he has INGAME, so good change.
It all follows the coding philosophy: watch what you users do, and then help them doing it.
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.08.29 07:03:00 -
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So with all the character buying/selling going on a "certificate" is as useful as a uni degree off a matchbook .
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
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Daelin Blackleaf
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.08.29 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Dez Affinity Seems to me it's just a rip off of Achievements from WoW and Titles from Guild Wars. Am I wrong?
Yes.
A certificate shows that you can use a certain set of kit or possess the in-game skills to perform a task well.
An achievement shows that you have performed a certain task in game with your player skills or your patience to grind (whether this task is easy or hard).
Achievements have more in common with killboards than certificates. they're about waving your e-peen all over the place, most people don't care if you have umpteenquillion SP but it's nice to know the guy your hiring can at least fit tackling gear, or that the person who's claiming to have 100% refine skills actually has them.
Sure you can give out your basic API, but I don't want everyone knowing all my skills just to prove I have a few specific ones. People don't necessarily want them seeing their wallet balance either. To be honest the free instant background checks and free intel on your common ships and fitting are more than bad enough.
Our data should be ours to present or conceal as we see fit. This is a small step in the right direction.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.08.29 20:23:00 -
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It's been stated before that CCP in no way endorses third party programs and websites that use the API to report stuff about it's user. CCP can damn well implement this without stepping on their toes, and it is good orientation for the newer players.
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Daelin Blackleaf
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.08.29 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Grarr Dexx It's been stated before that CCP in no way endorses third party programs and websites that use the API to report stuff about it's user. CCP can damn well implement this without stepping on their toes, and it is good orientation for the newer players.
Since I'm the only one to mention the API I'll assume your addressing me with this. To clarify: I am strongly in favor of Certificates because they allow you to prove you have a set of skills without handing over any more information than you wish to.
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Sp0ngeB0b
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Posted - 2008.08.30 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Sig Freed
Originally by: Onyx Asablot I'm wondering if it will go beyond skills? Ie to get the megathron pilot certificate you need the relevant player skills and ALSO get five (for example) player kills using a megathron...
I agree. As a tackler, I hope that if there were such a certificate for that specialty, its not simply "get skills propulsion jamming to X and interceptors to Y".
Having a number of successful points or webs on a target resulting in ship destruction would be a better criteria imo.
like you have 1 point from a target disruptor II and 1 web from a stasis webifyer II on a [mr x] in <ship y>, along with 22 points and 20 webs from other parties on the same target, lasting a total time of 6 seconds untill target destruction, have a certificate?
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Aya Otosaki
Titan Indurstrial
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Posted - 2008.08.30 00:24:00 -
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when this comes will your employment history be hidden. personally i would like that. ----- Ignorance is my strength. |
Armoured C
Gallente The Aztecs Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.08.30 00:38:00 -
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this is pretty good for recruitment so you can see first hand what they have, as there are a few , not mentioning names but people who take long brakes but there starting date is 2003 or what ever and so they dont have what you expect them to have.
so atm i am looking for dictor pilots or interceptors i can see at a glance that they are capable in these fields it will also help with recruitment for skilled ships instead of skill points
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Benco97
Gallente The Star League
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Posted - 2008.08.30 00:38:00 -
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If I were still the lying sort of guy this would totally kill my old line of work dead. Shame really because it's a decent idea but all it's going to do is make corps say you MUST HAVE X CERT TO JOIN.
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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Finnroth
Caldari The Crimson Fraternity
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Posted - 2008.08.30 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Benco97 If I were still the lying sort of guy this would totally kill my old line of work dead. Shame really because it's a decent idea but all it's going to do is make corps say you MUST HAVE X CERT TO JOIN.
Now they want your API or 10mio+(+++) amount of SP, i prefer actually some showable certicifates, though i don't wnat to glorify them until i can seem them for myself.
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.08.30 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: Shinzann Was watching one of the Leipzig interviews over at mmorpg.com when this little nugget of information was released:
Quote: On the heels of EA 1.1 will be EA 1.2, which will make up for the lack of obvious content by bringing in new missions, and a new certificate system that will allow players to actually produce credentials (like a university degree or diploma) that proves to other players what skills your player possesses. Not only is it good for this use, we are told, but it also gives newer players something to work toward in terms of their skill advancement.
I like this idea. I like it a lot.
My only little fear in the back of my mind is that these certificates bear a slight resemblance to levels.
Just wanted to share that with folks.
I love this idea. I, amd I am sure quite a few other players, simply dont want to show even their limited API to potental corporations they want to join for the simple reason knowledge is power. Being able to present a certificate that shows I am capable of such and such would really help both people like myself keep our privacy and show the corporations we would like to join what we truely are capable of. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase:
Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
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Lord Fitz
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Posted - 2008.08.30 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Elite Marksman Edited by: Elite Marksman on 28/08/2008 14:41:49
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
There'll probably be a dev blog on this at some point
You mean like the dev blog explaining why the speed changes on Sisi were rolled back?
Or the post in the Sisi forum that already explained this ? That the rollback was temporary to allow them to test the upcoming patch which wasn't going to have them, the changes would then be put back on Sisi after ?
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