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Vaden Khale Amarr the united	Posted - 2008.08.28 20:53:00 - [31] Originally by: Bob Stuart Originally by: Avel Kereka harlot I have to ask you to retract that. *Vaden shrugs as Stuart attempts, vainly, to restore his lady's honor.* You'll get naught from that one, the only thing blind religious zealots such as those can say are the virtues of their race, slavery, and one word insults decrying anyone different. For instance, in my case, they like to call me scum, murderer, heretic, blasphemer, cultist, etc. Consider it a compliment from an ill-minded bigot and move on. Hold my beer while I nail your sister.
Inara Subaka Caldari the united	Posted - 2008.08.28 20:56:00 - [32] Originally by: Vaden Khale *Vaden shakes his head as his colleage exposes her exploits.* First off, I believe our time in Gallente space has infected you with their hedonism. Second, I do pray that is not one of your slaves you recently...exhausted. And finally, please try to refrain from doing one of your exploits at a company meeting. Lady Door would be most put off. *Vaden closes comm channel with a jovial grin, one strangely absent of malice.* First, no, I was a hedonist before entering Federation space, they just don't have as any qualms about it as other areas of New Eden. Second, guilty grin crosses her face oops, the fields don't need to be harvested until next week, so I'm not detracting from prodctivity. And finally, you only wish you could be present when I'm fulfilling my desires... as for Lady Door, she has never complained about my exploits before, as long as they don't interfere with business. Originally by: Zapp Brenigan Tying her to a bulkhead in your ship, then getting a Slaver Hound to lick her while 12 Sebiestor midgets chant the Pax Amarria and tickle her with feathers, while you smear nanite paste all over yourself would probably be considered 'deviant'. Talking in a funny voice is just lack of imagination. Don't knock slaver hound tongues, I have seen many writhe at their unique touch, I haven't personally tried their talents, but it is quite interesting to watch. Midgets are over rated... trust me. And nanite paste is bad for the skin. And don't be making fun of those that have lived a sheltered life, given time and training I'm sure he could come up with something good. Pilot Daerth, privacy I understand, however hiding your tastes in fear of rejection (either by your partner or society) is lunacy. And I'm rather pleasantly surprised by your choice of a mate... figured you'd be too hung up on Amarrian philosophy of not being matched with someone who is "inferior". As for the Amarrian's "dubious morality", as you called it, let's just say that the Empire has provided me with more than a few... experiences. As for the misunderstanding regarding your Priests... I was simply going by the rumors of your silly religion. (ooc: I was just making connections to current equivilants, /me shrugs) Originally by: Bob Stuart Anyway, I met her and confessed all. She was amused, enough so that she only destroyed my ship, not my capsule. My sincerest condolences, I believe that for a price I have a slave that might be able to satisfy your freshly blooming desires... She is almost as decadent as me, and I'm sure that she would teach you a few things before your time was up and you had to leave. Originally by: Bob Stuart Originally by: Avel Kereka harlot I have to ask you to retract that. Must agree with Pilot Stuart on this one, placing harsh titles on a person's love is asking for a non-pleasant confrontation. Now if you had the testicular fortitude to say the same words to her face, that's a different story.
Zarkahesh Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.08.28 20:57:00 - [33] Your lover must be a Tash-Murkonite. I hear all manner of deviancy is tolerated within their fiefs. A direct consequence of loving ISK above that of loving God I believe.
Avel Kereka Amarr The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia	Posted - 2008.08.28 21:39:00 - [34] Originally by: Bob Stuart Originally by: Avel Kereka harlot I have to ask you to retract that. You should respect free speech, Gallente. Originally by: Zarkahesh Your lover must be a Tash-Murkonite. I hear all manner of deviancy is tolerated within their fiefs. A direct consequence of loving ISK above that of loving God I believe. Quite true.
Bob Stuart D. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm	Posted - 2008.08.28 21:55:00 - [35] Originally by: Avel Kereka You should respect free speech, Gallente. And you should respect the lady. Retract your statement. I insist.
Zarkahesh Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.08.28 22:12:00 - [36] Originally by: Bob Stuart And you should respect the lady. Retract your statement. I insist. I fail to see why, it was a truthful statement. Aren't the women who sell their flesh in your pleasure hubs indeed, harlots?
Bob Stuart D. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm	Posted - 2008.08.28 22:20:00 - [37] Originally by: Zarkahesh I fail to see why, it was a truthful statement. Aren't the women who sell their flesh in your pleasure hubs indeed, harlots? What relevance do pleasure hub employees have to this?
Zarkahesh Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.08.28 22:25:00 - [38] Originally by: Bob Stuart What relevance do pleasure hub employees have to this? If you need me to explain a barely veiled barb to you, then I am amazed how you ever managed to get your capsuleer license.
Bob Stuart D. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm	Posted - 2008.08.28 22:51:00 - [39] Originally by: Zarkahesh If you need me to explain a barely veiled barb to you, then I am amazed how you ever managed to get your capsuleer license. I'm just seeing if you will condemn yourself with your own words, rather than relying on interpretations. If you have something to say, then do so. Don't beat around the bush.
Avel Kereka Amarr The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia	Posted - 2008.08.28 23:17:00 - [40] Originally by: Bob Stuart And you should respect the lady. Retract your statement. I insist. I respect those who respect cultural and racial boundaries. Insist all you like--you may wish to get in line though, as there are currently several million people who would like to have a little chat with me (we Amarr are just that popular).

Natalcya Katla Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2008.08.28 23:52:00 - [41] In an ideal world, any kind of physical intimacy would be considered deviant. The knowledge that a staggering number of people engage in grossly unhygienic acts involving the exchange of bodily fluids on an often daily basis is nothing less than disgusting. In comparison, a fondness for a certain accent is a mild quirk at worst.
Gottii Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.08.29 02:57:00 - [42] Originally by: Natalcya Katla In an ideal world, any kind of physical intimacy would be considered deviant. The knowledge that a staggering number of people engage in grossly unhygienic acts involving the exchange of bodily fluids on an often daily basis is nothing less than disgusting. In comparison, a fondness for a certain accent is a mild quirk at worst. Who needs sex when you have happy chips I guess.... ----------------------------------------------- All true old-school gamers know the only reliable way to stop a forum troll is with acid or fire... -----------------------------------------------
Inara Subaka Caldari the united	Posted - 2008.08.29 07:34:00 - [43] Originally by: Avel Kereka Originally by: Bob Stuart And you should respect the lady. Retract your statement. I insist. I respect those who respect cultural and racial boundaries. Insist all you like--you may wish to get in line though, as there are currently several million people who would like to have a little chat with me (we Amarr are just that popular). No, you really aren't that popular, it's just you're very outspoken about your rather narrow views and beliefs. It's not Amarrians as a whole, it's ignorant bigots like yourself. While calling me a Harlot might be closer to the truth, to insult someone who obviously isn't a harlot (she was offended by the request to use a foreign accent) is rather ignorant, and I expected more from the civilized portion of the Empire. Originally by: Gottii Originally by: Natalcya Katla In an ideal world, any kind of physical intimacy would be considered deviant. The knowledge that a staggering number of people engage in grossly unhygienic acts involving the exchange of bodily fluids on an often daily basis is nothing less than disgusting. In comparison, a fondness for a certain accent is a mild quirk at worst. Who needs sex when you have happy chips I guess.... I tried chemicals to simulate physical, mental, emotional, and possibly spiritual highs... they all failed miserably. The only thing that works is the original, those "grossly unhygienic acts involving the exchange of bodily fluids" are the only way to find a true release, however temporary it might be. I highly doubt the Sansha happy chips will work either... besides, I like my free will and all. Besides, if I didn't engage in those oh-so-disgusting acts of physical pleasure, I'd have to find something productive to fill my evenings. starts to squirm in her seat All this talk about unhygienic acts of bodily fluid exchange is getting me... worked up. Perhaps I could convince J'orik to perform the same duties 3 times in one day.
Kitoba Minmatar Legion of Dynamic Discord	Posted - 2008.08.29 08:15:00 - [44] Originally by: Gottii Who needs sex when you have happy chips I guess.... Who needs happy chips when you can have your ears crawled?
Avel Kereka Amarr The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia	Posted - 2008.08.29 16:39:00 - [45] Originally by: Inara Subaka No, you really aren't that popular, it's just you're very outspoken about your rather narrow views and beliefs. It's not Amarrians as a whole, it's ignorant bigots like yourself. I was being sarcastic. Also, in case you missed it, by "little chat" I meant mortal combat. My views on interracial marriage are widely held in the Empire, so don't kid yourself. Originally by: Inara Subaka While calling me a Harlot might be closer to the truth, to insult someone who obviously isn't a harlot (she was offended by the request to use a foreign accent) is rather ignorant, and I expected more from the civilized portion of the Empire. You'd think this channel was an academic lecture hall with all you pedantic, verbose types around. Technically the madam does not, indeed, sleep with multiple men for the sole purpose of monetary gain. She did, however, turn her back on God and sleep with a lesser man for her own pleasure so it's not that far off.
Inara Subaka Caldari the united	Posted - 2008.08.29 19:32:00 - [46] Originally by: Avel Kereka I was being sarcastic. Also, in case you missed it, by "little chat" I meant mortal combat. My views on interracial marriage are widely held in the Empire, so don't kid yourself. If you are honestly interested in a truly mortal combat, we could always go planetside. I'm sure my associate, as depraved as he is, will be willing to use your blood for one of his rather unusual ceremonies once I'm done with you. And I'm quite aware of the intolerance that is being bred within the Empire, fortunately there are more and more people that are broadening their horizons... trust me on this one. a catty smile flashes Inara's face for a moment, as if recalling a particularly enjoyable moment Originally by: Avel Kereka You'd think this channel was an academic lecture hall with all you pedantic, verbose types around. Technically the madam does not, indeed, sleep with multiple men for the sole purpose of monetary gain. She did, however, turn her back on God and sleep with a lesser man for her own pleasure so it's not that far off. Surely a man as educated as yourself (at least one would assume that Pilots from the Empire are educated) would understand the importance of speaking properly. Words and communication on this level is what sets us aside from animals. I could say you are a pig of a man, worth less than the Fedos that clean your stations... obviously that would be false, considering you are a Pilot, and as such the hardware that allows you to interface with your ship makes you worth more (at least from a financial standpoint) than a Fedo... however, you are a religious extremist and a supremacist so it's not that far off. reaches for the controls, but retracts her hand with a bit of a start as the door in the background opens Oh yes, I had forgotten about that... An obviously Ni-Kunni man walks in bowing with a towel and a change of clothes, "Mistress, it is time for your training, I have brought your work-out clothing and will await you outside." he quickly bows again before stepping back through the door and closing it Inara turns to the comm again Perhaps you should consider hiring yourself a personal trainer, I have found that clone bodies, while in perfect shape, are all lacking in the physical prowess department and it takes a few months of training to get them back to where I like them. Fortunately for you, I've only had this one just shy of a month.
Avel Kereka Amarr The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia	Posted - 2008.08.29 21:59:00 - [47] Originally by: Inara Subaka If you are honestly interested in a truly mortal combat, we could always go planetside. No, I am not. As I said earlier (in the sarcastic post you seem to be having difficulty with), take a number because there are lots of people who would like to kill me and free my slaves. Or kill me and take my slaves. Either way. Originally by: Inara Subaka Surely a man as educated as yourself (at least one would assume that Pilots from the Empire are educated) would understand the importance of speaking properly. Words and communication on this level is what sets us aside from animals. I could say you are a pig of a man, worth less than the Fedos that clean your stations... obviously that would be false, considering you are a Pilot, and as such the hardware that allows you to interface with your ship makes you worth more (at least from a financial standpoint) than a Fedo... however, you are a religious extremist and a supremacist so it's not that far off. Is it so hard to just call me a pig? Verbosity.
Bob Stuart D. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:54:00 - [48] You know, I've been thinking. While it would have been interesting to challenge Avel Kereka to a duel, my Myrmidon vs his Harbinger, (I'd have supplied one if he was unable to afford one), it would also have been wasteful of the crews lives, fine upstanding people they are. In any case, I realised something. These comments from Avel and Zarkahesh (as an aside, isn't it interesting how much they know about deviancy? Avel and his dog collars, Zarkahesh and the pleasure hubs) are in a way, compliments to my lady. Specifically, that it shows how special she is, that she comes from a culture that is apparently filled with such boorish and arrogant people, yet she herself is so graceful and full of charm. So, I'm going to take the moral high ground here, and remain civil. I refuse to be baited by your comments, gentlemen. Good day to you.
Veron Daerth Amarr Blood Meridian	Posted - 2008.08.29 23:01:00 - [49] A most excellent position, Pilot Stuart. Do not let the nay-sayers get to you. Treasure each moment with her, and understand that God has given you both a special gift of love for you two to enjoy for your lifetimes. Shian does not especially feel any call to worship the God of my Faith, and I dont press too deeply into her religious affairs. We try to come to a comfortable medium when it comes to matters of faith that interact with our daily lives. I am curious sir, is your lady of Noble or Holder heritage? Is she a commoner? And if she is indeed Noble, how did you meet her? May God grant you wisdom, Pilots.
Avel Kereka Amarr The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia	Posted - 2008.08.30 04:38:00 - [50] Originally by: Bob Stuart You know, I've been thinking. Challenging me to a duel would not only compromise the values of your dear Federation, it would also serve little purpose. Would I be any more "in the right" if I won? Such expensive schoolyard fights don't accomplish much when death is impermanent. If you're willing to spend roughly seventy million ISK on "honour", perhaps you could donate to starving people--I'm sure you could save the population of a small planet with that sort of money.

Inara Subaka Caldari the united	Posted - 2008.08.30 06:28:00 - [51] Originally by: Avel Kereka No, I am not. As I said earlier (in the sarcastic post you seem to be having difficulty with), take a number because there are lots of people who would like to kill me and free my slaves. Or kill me and take my slaves. Either way. Oh, I have no problems with sarcasm. And I will, in fact, take a number... perhaps I'll have a body that is in slightly better form than I currently am anyways. It could be rather difficult for me to perform at what I know to be my best at the current time. However, for your sake you might want to keep an eye on the galactic clone reactivation listings and make an appointment shortly after seeing my name appear. Originally by: Avel Kereka Is it so hard to just call me a pig? Finally putting that mind to use I see... And no, it wouldn't be hard, but it would be less fun. Like I said, just send me a communication whenever you feel you have the time. We can make a day of it, lunch in the station, an afternoon of showing you my estate planetside, signing of the necessary paperwork for the transfer of the victors slaves and other properties, and following a good dinner and desert we can formalize things. Would you prefer a weapon? Swords, knives, staff...? Or are we going to handle this with our hands? It would be nice to know which to train for.
Remus Navillum z3r0 Gravity Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.30 18:25:00 - [52] She's already sleeping with a Gallente, which probably constitutes a million different kinds of deviancy right there. Why would you worry about overstepping her sexual bounds by asking for an accent? Yeesh, get adventurous. If you want to see something really deviant, take a look at Amarrian ***ography. That's crap is just... weird as balls. Just... shudder*
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.08.30 18:36:00 - [53] Originally by: Rodj Blake Mr Stuart, I heartily recommend you enrol on one of the SPCS' religious education courses. They have a long and noble history of educating ignorant heathens such as yourself. Not only will they be able to answer all of your questions regarding religion in some detail, but they will also provide you accommodation and employment upon the completion of the course Presumably you won't ask him to hand-crank for you, though. Dear me, repression can do terrible things to a man.... ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander
Anneka Tong B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm	Posted - 2008.08.30 22:10:00 - [54] Originally by: Remus Navillum If you want to see something really deviant, take a look at Amarrian ***ography. That's crap is just... weird as balls. Just... shudder* Really? In what way?
Inara Subaka Caldari the united	Posted - 2008.08.31 07:14:00 - [55] Originally by: Remus Navillum If you want to see something really deviant, take a look at Amarrian ***ography. That's crap is just... weird as balls. Just... shudder* You think their holo's are weird, visit one of their... "social clubs" if you ever get a chance. I was invited by an friend (who I will leave unnamed) to one on Oris that had happenings that gave me pause. Originally by: Anneka Tong Really? In what way? Two words: Branding irons.
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.08.31 08:20:00 - [56] Edited by: Stitcher on 31/08/2008 08:21:14 Originally by: Inara Subaka Two words: Branding irons. Oh, come off it. The empire consists of multiple trillions of citizens. They're not ALL into branding irons. I daresay that not even a tiny minority are. Try disengaging your prejudice for a few minutes and looking again, you'll find that the overwhelming bulk of Amarrian erotica revolves around the exact same things that everyone else's erotic media does - nudity, and athletic, acrobatic sex between consenting adults. Aside from a slight over-representation of nuns and monks, and a slight (unsurprising) cultural bias in favour of master/slave BDSM, I'd say it's perfectly normal. By contrast, I remember a few years ago there was a massive high-profile trial in the Republic high court revolving around the makers of an underground snuff tape. By all accounts the tape consisted of a gang of three women treating an Amarrian male they claimed was a slave-taker and an Overlord like the most downtrodden, abused slave in history... then they moved on to torturing him. I understand that the finale of that piece involves them slowly driving a seven-inch steel nail through his forehead. Apparently, he continues to plead his innocence right up until the end. Everybody who was present to witness the tape in the courtroom needed psychological counselling afterwards. Should I claim that ALL Minmatar ****ography is like that? No, because I know damn well that it isn't. The makers of and "actresses" in that video were found guilty on every last charge that the court could bring against them. All were executed. There's a dark nether region to all of our civilizations, but let's at least try to retain some perspective and NOT confuse those infinitesimal minorities with the day-to-day average. - Captain Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Inara Subaka Caldari the united	Posted - 2008.08.31 09:08:00 - [57] Originally by: Stitcher Edited by: Stitcher on 31/08/2008 08:21:14 Originally by: Inara Subaka Two words: Branding irons. Oh, come off it. The empire consists of multiple trillions of citizens. They're not ALL into branding irons. I daresay that not even a tiny minority are. Try disengaging your prejudice for a few minutes and looking again, you'll find that the overwhelming bulk of Amarrian erotica revolves around the exact same things that everyone else's erotic media does - nudity, and athletic, acrobatic sex between consenting adults. Aside from a slight over-representation of nuns and monks, and a slight (unsurprising) cultural bias in favour of master/slave BDSM, I'd say it's perfectly normal. By contrast, I remember a few years ago there was a massive high-profile trial in the Republic high court revolving around the makers of an underground snuff tape. By all accounts the tape consisted of a gang of three women treating an Amarrian male they claimed was a slave-taker and an Overlord like the most downtrodden, abused slave in history... then they moved on to torturing him. I understand that the finale of that piece involves them slowly driving a seven-inch steel nail through his forehead. Apparently, he continues to plead his innocence right up until the end. Everybody who was present to witness the tape in the courtroom needed psychological counselling afterwards. Should I claim that ALL Minmatar ***ography is like that? No, because I know damn well that it isn't. The makers of and "actresses" in that video were found guilty on every last charge that the court could bring against them. All were executed. There's a dark nether region to all of our civilizations, but let's at least try to retain some perspective and NOT confuse those infinitesimal minorities with the day-to-day average. video feed is disabled as the channel opens* I was preparing for bed when I noticed Captain Verin's response. Typically I would have waited until morning after a few cups of Quafe to answer, but this needs clarifying. Pilot Navillum mentioned startling things he'd seen, things that made him visibly shudder... and from my perusing of Amarrian Holo's that is one of the few things that I found that would cause such a reaction and was differing from the other nation's erotic media. I know that it's not a majority issue. There are some things that I've seen in Matari films that made me quickly find the cancel option. The things some people will do with Fedos is VERY disturbing. And have you ever seen Deteis mechanical contraptions in erotica? Then you have the Federation, living in their space has let me see there is little they would consider deviant in a bedroom when placed in erotic holo's. And I know, or at least hope, that these select few examples are not representative of the majorities. And accusing me of prejudice towards the Empire would be like accusing me of prejudice against the Federation... the sarcasm is almost tangible as Inara makes a last statement and closes the channel And we all know how wonderful I think the Federation is.
Remus Navillum z3r0 Gravity Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.31 09:29:00 - [58] Erm... well, the branding irons, yes, that was unsettling. But what I found most shudder-worthy was the curiously common habit of reciting verses from the Scriptures in the midst of... you know. Doing the deed. Quite often, a perfectly good holoreel scene would get all weirded-up by someone suddenly shouting a line about the moral value of piety, or something to that effect. Maybe I'm being (uncharacteristically) prudish, but theology and bedroom antics just don't seem like a palatable mixture.
Anneka Tong B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm	Posted - 2008.08.31 09:35:00 - [59] Originally by: Remus Navillum Erm... well, the branding irons, yes, that was unsettling. But what I found most shudder-worthy was the curiously common habit of reciting verses from the Scriptures in the midst of... you know. Doing the deed. Quite often, a perfectly good holoreel scene would get all weirded-up by someone suddenly shouting a line about the moral value of piety, or something to that effect. Well, yes, branding irons are extreme, rather than weird. Reciting verses from the Scriptures? That's a new one. I'm intrigued. How did you find this out? Although, I suppose it's similar to more conventional shoutings of "oh god", just taken to the logical extreme you'd expect from a culture of highly religious people. I find it hard to believe, though. Next you'll be telling us that the ladies involved wear veils to hide their identity, to sidestep the prohibition on public nudity.
Shirley Serious Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.08.31 13:06:00 - [60] Originally by: Avel Kereka It's deviancy for her to be sleeping with a Gallente in the first place. As far as the devout are concerned your harlot can wear a collar and bark like a dog since she's doomed to hellfire anyway. Your rigidity in your views is interesting, however you are forgetting your own heritage, are you not? No Amarr woman ever did anything without some kind of a plan being behind it. For one to be doing such things is not going to be purely for pleasure, it is going to be for a much more important reason. Conventional reasons are for the family, for the Faith, or for the Empire. I would not be surprised to find that the lady in question is in fact held in quite high regard by the Empire, and is acting to an agenda by the Theology Council or other agency. To infiltrate and spread some of the principles of the Amarrian faith, such that the Federation can be taken over with far less trouble, and more completely. She herself may be doomed to hellfire, but if her actions convert thousands to the Faith, is she not redeemed? Yes. Yes, I am.

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