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T-B0NE
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2012.04.13 16:41:00 -
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ASuperVillain wrote:Hell no...
give us an "opt out" for your pretty-fi bullshit.
besides two words come to mind... buggy, incomplete which is to say MORE OF THE SAME
-ASV I agree, I don't wanna invest so much time and money into this game just to someday be forced out by inferior graphics resulting from an unwillingness to go out and spend money AGAIN on ANOTHER graphics card, and suitable power supply, which is another couple hundred on top of that. These high end cards are expensive energy hogs which sucks for someone on a budget who just wants to sit back and enjoy their favorite game. I mean come on 500watts to run a graphics card, my refrigerator uses less than that! I just don't get why programmers can't write more efficient code instead of ever more resource intensive code (oh wait that's right CCP is in bed with Nvidia and Nividia sells graphics cards, it all makes sense now).
EvE is forever, too bad it's support for your graphics card might not be. |
Alrione
Black Lagoon Inc.
158
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Posted - 2012.04.13 16:56:00 -
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+1 to DO WANT
All those megahurz on my computer need something to do, otherwise I heard hackers can steal them |
T-B0NE
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2012.04.13 16:59:00 -
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Alrione wrote:+1 to DO WANT All those megahurz on my computer need something to do, otherwise I heard hackers can steal them Don't worry all those megahertz will be considered under powered soon enough. |
Barakach
R-ISK Shadow Operations.
43
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:00:00 -
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T-B0NE wrote:ASuperVillain wrote:Hell no...
give us an "opt out" for your pretty-fi bullshit.
besides two words come to mind... buggy, incomplete which is to say MORE OF THE SAME
-ASV I agree, I don't wanna invest so much time and money into this game just to someday be forced out by inferior graphics resulting from an unwillingness to go out and spend money AGAIN on ANOTHER graphics card, and suitable power supply, which is another couple hundred on top of that. These high end cards are expensive energy hogs which sucks for someone on a budget who just wants to sit back and enjoy their favorite game. I mean come on 500watts to run a graphics card, my refrigerator uses less than that! I just don't get why programmers can't write more efficient code instead of ever more resource intensive code (oh wait that's right CCP is in bed with Nvidia and Nividia sells graphics cards, it all makes sense now). EvE is forever, too bad it's support for your graphics card might not be.
The integrated GPU built into the up-coming $150 cpus are just as powerful as $250 graphics cards from only 3 years ago.
GPUs are getting CHEAPER and use LESS power.
GPUs are doubling their performance every 12-16months, while reducing power and becoming cheaper. In 2-3 years, expect a $400 computer using the integrated GPU to run the proposed graphics changes just fine. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1512
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:03:00 -
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ASuperVillain wrote:JamDunc wrote:CCP just announced the potential for a new graphics upgrade.
The new upgrade would take 5 man years. For comparison the Trinity upgrade took 50 man years.
Thoughts?
CURRENT RESULTS
For: 31 Neutral: 1 Against: 1 Hell no... give us an "opt out" for your pretty-fi bullshit. besides two words come to mind... buggy, incomplete which is to say MORE OF THE SAME -ASV Games die because they cannot keep up with newer games in graphical quality. Despite what people like to say, game play isn't everything. Last time I went looking for a new game to play I didn't go looking for the old games with crappy graphics. I went looking for the new games with the nice new graphics.
And by the way...you do have an opt-out. It's called biomassing. You don't even have to log into the pretty-fi game to do it either. Lucky you! EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
189
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:03:00 -
[336] - Quote
T-B0NE wrote:ASuperVillain wrote:Hell no...
give us an "opt out" for your pretty-fi bullshit.
besides two words come to mind... buggy, incomplete which is to say MORE OF THE SAME
-ASV I agree, I don't wanna invest so much time and money into this game just to someday be forced out by inferior graphics resulting from an unwillingness to go out and spend money AGAIN on ANOTHER graphics card, and suitable power supply, which is another couple hundred on top of that. These high end cards are expensive energy hogs which sucks for someone on a budget who just wants to sit back and enjoy their favorite game. I mean come on 500watts to run a graphics card, my refrigerator uses less than that! I just don't get why programmers can't write more efficient code instead of ever more resource intensive code (oh wait that's right CCP is in bed with Nvidia and Nividia sells graphics cards, it all makes sense now). EvE is forever, too bad it's support for your graphics card might not be.
I'm sorry that computing power continues to march on while you are stuck in the dark age. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
190
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:06:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:ASuperVillain wrote:JamDunc wrote:CCP just announced the potential for a new graphics upgrade.
The new upgrade would take 5 man years. For comparison the Trinity upgrade took 50 man years.
Thoughts?
CURRENT RESULTS
For: 31 Neutral: 1 Against: 1 Hell no... give us an "opt out" for your pretty-fi bullshit. besides two words come to mind... buggy, incomplete which is to say MORE OF THE SAME -ASV Games die because they cannot keep up with newer games in graphical quality. Despite what people like to say, game play isn't everything. Last time I went looking for a new game to play I didn't go looking for the old games with crappy graphics. I went looking for the new games with the nice new graphics. And by the way...you do have an opt-out. It's called biomassing. You don't even have to log into the pretty-fi game to do it either. Lucky you!
Lets not go overboard here. CCP has said that the opt-out for the graphics would be like what they did when Trinity 2.0 came out. These people will have a few years to update their systems to accommodate the new graphics. I for one look forward to seeing pretty spaceships. |
Velicitia
Open Designs
827
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:06:00 -
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T-B0NE wrote: EvE is forever, too bad it's support for your graphics card might not be.
I too want to play the newest computer games on my Amiga.
Prior to getting my new laptop a few weeks ago, I was playing on a crap laptop running a Mobile Intel card, which I was forced to use because my ancient desktop (last rebuilt just before Trinity) didn't have the SSE2 instruction set. Settings across the board were "low" or "off", and the game played FINE (unless one wanted to check out the CQ or make a new toon ... meh).
Trinity to now (~5 years), there haven't been any major graphics overhauls to EVE (yes, V3 and a few other things ... but not on the scale that Trinity was), and I even DOWNGRADED my graphics card in the interim. So, if CCP is deciding that "OK, it's been 5 years, let's see what other improvements we can make to the graphics" I'm all for it.
Sure, this means people with computers that are barely at min spec now might get screwed ... but such is the nature of PC gaming. |
T-B0NE
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:06:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:I'm sorry that computing power continues to march on while you are stuck in the dark age. I'm sorry you think graphics cards that require as much energy as some large household appliances is justified in the name of "progress".
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Ekserevnitis
Black Rise Security Division The AirShip Pirates
1
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:10:00 -
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+1 especialy if this will make the ships to use their actual shape for bumping |
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong White-Lotus
534
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:10:00 -
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T-B0NE wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:I'm sorry that computing power continues to march on while you are stuck in the dark age. I'm sorry you think graphics cards that require as much energy as some large household appliances is justified in the name of "progress".
This tech works on the most commonly used GPU that eve players use |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1514
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:12:00 -
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T-B0NE wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:I'm sorry that computing power continues to march on while you are stuck in the dark age. I'm sorry you think graphics cards that require as much energy as some large household appliances is justified in the name of "progress". I am willing to bet that whatever graphics card you have right now uses more power than the current gen cards do. This makes your argument invalid. Try again. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1514
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:15:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:ASuperVillain wrote:JamDunc wrote:CCP just announced the potential for a new graphics upgrade.
The new upgrade would take 5 man years. For comparison the Trinity upgrade took 50 man years.
Thoughts?
CURRENT RESULTS
For: 31 Neutral: 1 Against: 1 Hell no... give us an "opt out" for your pretty-fi bullshit. besides two words come to mind... buggy, incomplete which is to say MORE OF THE SAME -ASV Games die because they cannot keep up with newer games in graphical quality. Despite what people like to say, game play isn't everything. Last time I went looking for a new game to play I didn't go looking for the old games with crappy graphics. I went looking for the new games with the nice new graphics. And by the way...you do have an opt-out. It's called biomassing. You don't even have to log into the pretty-fi game to do it either. Lucky you! Lets not go overboard here. CCP has said that the opt-out for the graphics would be like what they did when Trinity 2.0 came out. These people will have a few years to update their systems to accommodate the new graphics. I for one look forward to seeing pretty spaceships. Not going overboard...just stating a fact. But yes I am aware that they would phase out the old graphics just like they did with Trinity. Problem is...when it comes time to phase out the old graphics we will be having the same argument with the same people who still havn't upgraded and expect us all to cater to them and never improve the graphics. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
T-B0NE
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:20:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Problem is...when it comes time to phase out the old graphics we will be having the same argument with the same people who still havn't upgraded and expect us all to cater to them and never improve the graphics. That's not what I'm saying, what I'm saying is it would be nice if developers could do more with the resources at hand instead of asking people to shell out the price of a video game console for a tiny lil graphics card. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1514
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:24:00 -
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T-B0NE wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Problem is...when it comes time to phase out the old graphics we will be having the same argument with the same people who still havn't upgraded and expect us all to cater to them and never improve the graphics. That's not what I'm saying, what I'm saying is it would be nice if developers could do more with the resources at hand instead of asking people to shell out the price of a video game console for a tiny lil graphics card. The problem is, all the cool stuff they want to do like Tesselation, that improves not only graphical quality but enables them to improve several aspects of gameplay, do require said upgrades. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Barakach
R-ISK Shadow Operations.
43
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:32:00 -
[346] - Quote
T-B0NE wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:I'm sorry that computing power continues to march on while you are stuck in the dark age. I'm sorry you think graphics cards that require as much energy as some large household appliances is justified in the name of "progress".
What, you mean the 30-40 watts this game takes? You do realize that newer video cards consume LESS power.. right?
ATI7970 consumes about 1/2 the power of my ATI6950 while having about double the performance. |
Denidil
Larimer Highlands Heavy Industries
259
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:32:00 -
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CCP Peirz wrote: Windows XP.
anyone still running XP is a dinosaur and gets what comes to them when things update their technology. I have found this new mysterious resource called "Life" |
T-B0NE
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:36:00 -
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Denidil wrote:anyone still running XP is a dinosaur and gets what comes to them when things update their technology. Be that as it may XP is still one of the most stable Windows operating systems around and many companies still use it.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1514
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:40:00 -
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T-B0NE wrote:Denidil wrote:anyone still running XP is a dinosaur and gets what comes to them when things update their technology. Be that as it may XP is still one of the most stable Windows operating systems around and many companies still use it Ummm...no. If they are still using XP it is because they are too cheap to upgrade to Windows 7 not because it is "more stable".
Which it isn't by the way. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Denidil
Larimer Highlands Heavy Industries
259
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:40:00 -
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T-B0NE wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:I'm sorry that computing power continues to march on while you are stuck in the dark age. I'm sorry you think graphics cards that require as much energy as some large household appliances is justified in the name of "progress".
yes.. because my dual video card system with a 1300W power supply (IIRC never exceeds 950) needs a 15 AMP breaker like a large appliance *rolleyes*
shut your ignorant pie hole. I have found this new mysterious resource called "Life" |
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T-B0NE
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:45:00 -
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Denidil wrote:yes.. because my dual video card system with a 1300W power supply (IIRC never exceeds 950) needs a 15 AMP breaker like a large appliance *rolleyes*
shut your ignorant pie hole. How about I shut my pie hole and shove my foot in your's you Richie B**ch mutha f**ka.
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Denidil
Larimer Highlands Heavy Industries
259
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:49:00 -
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T-B0NE wrote:Denidil wrote:yes.. because my dual video card system with a 1300W power supply (IIRC never exceeds 950) needs a 15 AMP breaker like a large appliance *rolleyes*
shut your ignorant pie hole. How about I shut my pie hole and shove my foot in your's you Richie B**ch mutha f**ka.
oooh.. internet tough guy.. i'm soooo impressed. maybe your mommy should buy you a stress ball.
[edit] and i only build new machines every 5 ish years.. so yeah i build good machines when i do. I have found this new mysterious resource called "Life" |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
190
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Posted - 2012.04.13 18:16:00 -
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T-B0NE wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:I'm sorry that computing power continues to march on while you are stuck in the dark age. I'm sorry you think graphics cards that require as much energy as some large household appliances is justified in the name of "progress".
I'm very sorry that your entire computer, a machine with more computing power than almost any computer in computing history takes slightly more power than a refrigerator, but less power than any of the computers in computing history. :firstworldproblems: |
Alrione
Black Lagoon Inc.
158
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Posted - 2012.04.13 18:17:00 -
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T-B0NE wrote:Denidil wrote:anyone still running XP is a dinosaur and gets what comes to them when things update their technology. Be that as it may XP is still one of the most stable Windows operating systems around and many companies still use it. No the reason companies don't update is because they are too cheap to upgrade from celeron machines with 1gb ram and the license price for the newer windows. Trying to look at average company as a forefront of IT knowledge is very wrong. Another reason is that some/few companies have bespoke software written that operates only on certain ox under certain conditions and they are incapable to move on for whatever idiotic reason they have.
Also XP has a fair share of stability problems, actually it has more problems then vista that so many wrongly believe to be terrible. Id like to see xp recover from driver failure, when vista/7 simply reload the said driver. I have used same win7 install since early 2010, it went through 2 motherboards, 2 cpus and 3 graphic cards in that span of time. XP? I had to reinstall the pos every half a year. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
190
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Posted - 2012.04.13 18:19:00 -
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T-B0NE wrote:Denidil wrote:anyone still running XP is a dinosaur and gets what comes to them when things update their technology. Be that as it may XP is still one of the most stable Windows operating systems around and many companies still use it.
It really isn't all that great. Most companies still using XP are doing so because their software doesn't support Windows 7. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
190
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Posted - 2012.04.13 18:22:00 -
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Alrione wrote:T-B0NE wrote:Denidil wrote:anyone still running XP is a dinosaur and gets what comes to them when things update their technology. Be that as it may XP is still one of the most stable Windows operating systems around and many companies still use it. No the reason companies don't update is because they are too cheap to upgrade from celeron machines with 1gb ram and the license price for the newer windows. Trying to look at average company as a forefront of IT knowledge is very wrong. Another reason is that some/few companies have bespoke software written that operates only on certain ox under certain conditions and they are incapable to move on for whatever idiotic reason they have. Also XP has a fair share of stability problems, actually it has more problems then vista that so many wrongly believe to be terrible. Id like to see xp recover from driver failure, when vista/7 simply reload the said driver. I have used same win7 install since early 2010, it went through 2 motherboards, 2 cpus and 3 graphic cards in that span of time. XP? I had to reinstall the pos every half a year.
Reinstalling XP twice a year was recommended by the manufacturer, actually. |
Alrione
Black Lagoon Inc.
158
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Posted - 2012.04.13 18:26:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote: Reinstalling XP twice a year was recommended by the manufacturer, actually.
I made sure to follow the procedure |
T-B0NE
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2012.04.13 18:33:00 -
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Returning to topic, yes I would like new graphics, but not if it means having to upgrade. If I have to upgrade to keep playing this game, I might not, which leads me to wonder if I should invest the time and money in this game now knowing that day may come (no you can't have my stuffs). |
Denidil
Larimer Highlands Heavy Industries
259
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Posted - 2012.04.13 20:35:00 -
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oh.. t-bone... only a complete and total idiot thinks windows xp is stable compared to win7 64bit I have found this new mysterious resource called "Life" |
Stellar Vix
State War Academy Caldari State
87
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Posted - 2012.04.13 20:49:00 -
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Just like Windows XP getting phased out in 2014.
Get with the program. Eve graphics are obviously helping get new players in for sure and is contributing to her growth.
-Vix SWA Instructor, Commander Select Currently being blamed as SWA's CEO SWA PVP Program |
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