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The TX Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities	Posted - 2008.08.30 13:17:00 - [1] *Keep an eye on this first post for updates* Saturday, 14:09PM BST. My gf left one of the lids slightly undone on the hamster house last night. I was told not to get out of bed first thing this morning by a slightly panickey GF (in case i stood on one). I called work, told them I won't be in, and we started the hunt. We've turned the ENTIRE flat upside down and inside out. Like, put everything carefully at one end to clear the floor, and slowly but surely put things item by item in a big heap in that clear space in the lounge. We've used propper hamster fencing and some other bits to seal off the pile from everywhere else - we KNOW that they're not in the section of the flat by the front door, and we've 'sealed' that off from hamster-access. We KNOW they're not in the bathroom, so that's sealed off. The bedroom is also clear. There's almost no chance at all that they're in the hallway. They're either in the kitchen, somewhere where we can't find them, or they're in the lounge, in amongst the pile and we missed them completely. But so far, there's absolutely no trace of 2 out of the 3 of them. We found one hiding inside last weeks' hamster housing that was left in the kitchen waiting to be cleaned out and returned to the box of hamster housing. She seems to be fine. Something I'm worried about is that it's quite a drop from the table to the floor, and if they're injured, they could have gone somewhere VERY difficult to find them, and have died in a corner somewhere, however, the one we did find seems to be fine after her ordeal. At the time of posting, they COULD have been out for anything up to 14hours now, without food or water, except what they could find on the floor. There's no way they could have left the flat. I'm hoping I can show you the video i recorded of our efforts to find them, keep an eye on this post for updates. We've set 'traps' to catch them, containers with fresh food in, and a ramp so they can get in but not out. There's a teeny tiny possibility there's a hole hidden from view in the corner of the kitchen and that it either goes somewhere deep and dark and non-returnable from, and then of course there's a chance that they both found that hole and will never be seen again. However, we can't find the hole - so not sure if there is one. Any suggestions/advice? -------------------- [Signature] [/Signature]
The TX Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities	Posted - 2008.08.30 13:17:00 - [2] *Keep an eye on this first post for updates* Saturday, 14:09PM BST. My gf left one of the lids slightly undone on the hamster house last night. I was told not to get out of bed first thing this morning by a slightly panickey GF (in case i stood on one). I called work, told them I won't be in, and we started the hunt. We've turned the ENTIRE flat upside down and inside out. Like, put everything carefully at one end to clear the floor, and slowly but surely put things item by item in a big heap in that clear space in the lounge. We've used propper hamster fencing and some other bits to seal off the pile from everywhere else - we KNOW that they're not in the section of the flat by the front door, and we've 'sealed' that off from hamster-access. We KNOW they're not in the bathroom, so that's sealed off. The bedroom is also clear. There's almost no chance at all that they're in the hallway. They're either in the kitchen, somewhere where we can't find them, or they're in the lounge, in amongst the pile and we missed them completely. But so far, there's absolutely no trace of 2 out of the 3 of them. We found one hiding inside last weeks' hamster housing that was left in the kitchen waiting to be cleaned out and returned to the box of hamster housing. She seems to be fine. Something I'm worried about is that it's quite a drop from the table to the floor, and if they're injured, they could have gone somewhere VERY difficult to find them, and have died in a corner somewhere, however, the one we did find seems to be fine after her ordeal. At the time of posting, they COULD have been out for anything up to 14hours now, without food or water, except what they could find on the floor. There's no way they could have left the flat. I'm hoping I can show you the video i recorded of our efforts to find them, keep an eye on this post for updates. We've set 'traps' to catch them, containers with fresh food in, and a ramp so they can get in but not out. There's a teeny tiny possibility there's a hole hidden from view in the corner of the kitchen and that it either goes somewhere deep and dark and non-returnable from, and then of course there's a chance that they both found that hole and will never be seen again. However, we can't find the hole - so not sure if there is one. Any suggestions/advice? -------------------- [Signature] [/Signature]
Gojyu Ever Flow HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.08.30 13:56:00 - [3] Edited by: Gojyu on 30/08/2008 13:57:20 Well, a quick google revealed that hamsters are nocturnal, I'd suggest reading a book, or doing something quiet and pulling an all nighter manning the traps. If you're really desperate and handy with electronics, I'd suggest setting up some traps with a pressure switch connected to a buzzer. Just how much do hamsters weigh?
Conwright Carebear Killers Inc. Anarchy.	Posted - 2008.08.30 14:01:00 - [4] Do you have a cat? If so I know where they are.
The TX Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities	Posted - 2008.08.30 15:11:00 - [5] Linkage -------------------- [Signature] [/Signature]
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.08.30 15:40:00 - [6] You made a DeHamsterized Zone??? Originally by: Lorz0r garmon is 90% Surfin's PlunderBunny, 10% er...Surfin's PlunderBunny
Bish Ounen Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.08.30 15:45:00 - [7] hamsters, like many rodents, have very supple bodies and ribs that are mostly cartilage. This is needed as wild hamsters are burrowing rodents, and need to be able to pass through very tight spaces without getting hung up. What this means for you is that it is VERY easy for a hamster to crawl under a normal hallway , closet or inner room door as they all have cracks underneath them large enough for the hamster to crawl through. In addition, many kitchen cabinets have faux facings down near the floor, covering up a large gap behind them. These facings are often improperly installed and have gaps large enough for a hamster to get through. Hamsters and other rodents are frequently found UNDER the kitchen cabinets or other installed cabinetry. Your best bet to capture them is to place some baited humane traps (traps that capture alive and without injury) along wall edges and near the bottom of cabinetry. Remember, rodents like Hamsters have somewhat poor eyesight, and will stay near wall edges, using thier whiskers like a blind-man's cane to help them navigate. So placing a trap out in the middle of a room will almost never work. Just leave the traps overnight, and you will likely have them both back by the next day. If not then they have either gotten into the walls and died, or have escaped the building. Good luck! Tactical Logistics using the last T1 Frigate hull!
Kephael Caldari LEAP Corp Ursa Stellar Initiative	Posted - 2008.08.30 15:47:00 - [8] Dial 999!
Fraszoid Caldari Condottieri Industries The Economy	Posted - 2008.08.30 16:15:00 - [9] Pretty much putting out food and waiting is your best bet. My Guinea pigs always fell for that trick when I used timothy hay. Good luck with your search. P.S. Its hard to take you serious in your video when you're not wearing pants. -------------------------------------------------- Everyone is born right handed, only the great over come it. Check out my players guide at: http://www.eve-miners.info/guide/minersguide.html
jason hill Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.30 17:23:00 - [10] why not just stamp on its head ? destroy everything you touch

Irida Mershkov Gallente Trader's Academy Blue Sky Consortium	Posted - 2008.08.30 17:43:00 - [11] Out of curiousity, what did you tell your work when you called them?
Ryysa Paisti Paisti Syndicate	Posted - 2008.08.30 17:47:00 - [12] Wait a week or so, then follow your nose... EW Guide - KB Tool - My Music
Ryan Scouse'UK omen. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.30 18:23:00 - [13] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Out of curiousity, what did you tell your work when you called them? that he was setting up a DHZ of course no EVE related content in signature. ~Weatherman
Mutabae	Posted - 2008.08.30 18:45:00 - [14] As with any other lost item, it's in the last place you'll look... thus, they're guaranteed to be in the big heap you have made in the middle of the floor 'where they can't possibly be'. Also, you called in sick to find a couple of rodents that are likely just fine and will find you when they're hungry and thirsty enough to get over their fear of open space? I'd formally reprimand you (at the very least) if I was your boss and found out you called in sick over a rodent that got out of its cage. Get your priorities straight, m8.
Ryan Scouse'UK omen. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.30 18:55:00 - [15] Originally by: Mutabae As with any other lost item, it's in the last place you'll look... thus, they're guaranteed to be in the big heap you have made in the middle of the floor 'where they can't possibly be'. Also, you called in sick to find a couple of rodents that are likely just fine and will find you when they're hungry and thirsty enough to get over their fear of open space? I'd formally reprimand you (at the very least) if I was your boss and found out you called in sick over a rodent that got out of its cage. Get your priorities straight, m8. Perhaps McDonaldÆs are very open minded about there staff's home pets. no EVE related content in signature. ~Weatherman
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.08.30 19:21:00 - [16] Originally by: Fraszoid Its hard to take you serious in your video when you're not wearing pants. This is to be expected from a TX vid... so it's fine, very serious business Originally by: Lorz0r garmon is 90% Surfin's PlunderBunny, 10% er...Surfin's PlunderBunny
Kalahari Wayrest Re-Awakened Technologies Inc	Posted - 2008.08.30 19:31:00 - [17] Quote: Get your priorities straight, m8. I'd say his priorities are fine. Work is just work, something going on in your personal life takes precedence, particularly if it's something important to the individual (even if to most people it's only a hamster) - I guess unless he's an ambulance driver or something, and people are dying because he's chasing hamsters __________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
Rawr Cristina Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2008.08.30 19:54:00 - [18] Sorry for your loss(s) - Infectious -
Mutabae	Posted - 2008.08.30 20:35:00 - [19] Originally by: Kalahari Wayrest Quote: Get your priorities straight, m8. I'd say his priorities are fine. Work is just work, something going on in your personal life takes precedence, particularly if it's something important to the individual (even if to most people it's only a hamster) - I guess unless he's an ambulance driver or something, and people are dying because he's chasing hamsters If he was my employee, he'd get reprimanded... most bosses would do the same. Welcome to living in an adult world. Try being in the workforce for a few years where projects don't get done because people are busy looking for their lost socks, then contrast that with not earning a bonus because your department didn't meet its quarterly goals. Hi, this is Reality speaking... why don't you have a seat?
unloadedx16	Posted - 2008.08.30 21:08:00 - [20] Originally by: Mutabae Originally by: Kalahari Wayrest Quote: Get your priorities straight, m8. I'd say his priorities are fine. Work is just work, something going on in your personal life takes precedence, particularly if it's something important to the individual (even if to most people it's only a hamster) - I guess unless he's an ambulance driver or something, and people are dying because he's chasing hamsters If he was my employee, he'd get reprimanded... most bosses would do the same. Welcome to living in an adult world. Try being in the workforce for a few years where projects don't get done because people are busy looking for their lost socks, then contrast that with not earning a bonus because your department didn't meet its quarterly goals. Hi, this is Reality speaking... why don't you have a seat? shut up, it one day of work

Inoshuu Caldari Lance Heavy Industries	Posted - 2008.08.30 21:47:00 - [21] Well, if after a week you smell something funny then you know... My brother once lost his gecko or whatever the hell it was, we found it a year later, dead, sitting on a vent under the couch. And get this... And cripsy
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.08.30 21:48:00 - [22] Originally by: Inoshuu Well, if after a week you smell something funny then you know... My brother once lost his gecko or whatever the hell it was, we found it a year later, dead, sitting on a vent under the couch. And get this... And cripsy Gecko.... the other other other OTHER white meat? Originally by: Lorz0r garmon is 90% Surfin's PlunderBunny, 10% er...Surfin's PlunderBunny
Rawr Cristina Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2008.08.30 21:50:00 - [23] Originally by: Mutabae If he was my employee, he'd get reprimanded... most bosses would do the same. Welcome to living in an adult world. Try being in the workforce for a few years where projects don't get done because people are busy looking for their lost socks, then contrast that with not earning a bonus because your department didn't meet its quarterly goals. It really depends where you work. It's not TX's job to care whether a project gets finished, only to work on it whilst he's there. He might care if he lost a bonus because of taking some days off, but really a lot of companies don't bother with incentives like that and for people unlikely to ever see promotions/bonuses anyway then they really don't lose anything by letting some company down by calling in sick. In fact they probably deserve it. Personally I've called in sick just once in the last 2 years, and am probably the most reliable person in the company in terms of turning up to work goes. It hasn't got me anywhere however and the only thing that keeps me there is that I don't mind the work it gets me out of the house... Some people take days off every week or so and TBH I don't blame them nor really care that they did. I still get paid. - Infectious -
The TX Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities	Posted - 2008.08.30 22:02:00 - [24] To those of you giving me grief - **** you. My girlfriend and I aren't married, we don't have kids - the only thing we have is hamsters. As much as I love the little critters, she'll love them 10 times as much, and she's devastated. So regardless to what work might think, finding them dead or alive is my main priority. I do enough extra work at work to help them all out the rest of the time, one day off to find two members of my family can't hurt. I have managed to remove the side of a cabinet in the kitchen, and now have full access to the corner where we think there may have been a hole. There is a hole, and it doesn't go next door like I'd hoped - it goes outwards, and into the wall cavity. Wall. Cavity. We're on the first floor, and there's two air brick things on the ground floor - it may be possible that they've worked their way down there somewhere, and removing an air brick may result in being reunited with my hamsters. I don't know. I've just looked up a picture of a cross section of a wall cavity, here. I'm not sure of the next step. -------------------- [Signature] [/Signature]
Irida Mershkov Gallente Trader's Academy Blue Sky Consortium	Posted - 2008.08.30 22:21:00 - [25] Originally by: The TX To those of you giving me grief - **** you. My girlfriend and I aren't married, we don't have kids - the only thing we have is hamsters. As much as I love the little critters, she'll love them 10 times as much, and she's devastated. So regardless to what work might think, finding them dead or alive is my main priority. I do enough extra work at work to help them all out the rest of the time, one day off to find two members of my family can't hurt. I have managed to remove the side of a cabinet in the kitchen, and now have full access to the corner where we think there may have been a hole. There is a hole, and it doesn't go next door like I'd hoped - it goes outwards, and into the wall cavity. Wall. Cavity. We're on the first floor, and there's two air brick things on the ground floor - it may be possible that they've worked their way down there somewhere, and removing an air brick may result in being reunited with my hamsters. I don't know. I've just looked up a picture of a cross section of a wall cavity, here. I'm not sure of the next step. Air Brick? Why not try one of those claw-grasper things, they have a name but bugger if I know what they're called, My mother has one as she is half disabled with problems with her back. Was thinking if you pushed it down and bumped a hamster, you'd hear it, not too sure on the whole getting access to it though.
The TX Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:19:00 - [26] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: The TX To those of you giving me grief - **** you. My girlfriend and I aren't married, we don't have kids - the only thing we have is hamsters. As much as I love the little critters, she'll love them 10 times as much, and she's devastated. So regardless to what work might think, finding them dead or alive is my main priority. I do enough extra work at work to help them all out the rest of the time, one day off to find two members of my family can't hurt. I have managed to remove the side of a cabinet in the kitchen, and now have full access to the corner where we think there may have been a hole. There is a hole, and it doesn't go next door like I'd hoped - it goes outwards, and into the wall cavity. Wall. Cavity. We're on the first floor, and there's two air brick things on the ground floor - it may be possible that they've worked their way down there somewhere, and removing an air brick may result in being reunited with my hamsters. I don't know. I've just looked up a picture of a cross section of a wall cavity, here. I'm not sure of the next step. Air Brick? Why not try one of those claw-grasper things, they have a name but bugger if I know what they're called, My mother has one as she is half disabled with problems with her back. Was thinking if you pushed it down and bumped a hamster, you'd hear it, not too sure on the whole getting access to it though. Going to Maplins in the morning to buy a CMOS camera thing - only 5mm across - that'll fit down the hole and into the cavity. If I can get some light in there too, we may be able to see what it's like in there and if it's possible to find them alive down there. -------------------- [Signature] [/Signature]
The TX Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:34:00 - [27] RIP Tonic RIP Baileys RIP Vodka Come back Malibu Come back Gin Live long and prosper Archers. -------------------- [Signature] [/Signature]
Jorana Rowan Gallente Flying Fox Industries	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:49:00 - [28] Originally by: The TX RIP Tonic RIP Baileys RIP Vodka Come back Malibu Come back Gin Live long and prosper Archers. Oh no! Where were they? I'm so sorry to hear about this! I was hoping you'd find them. My sympathies to you both.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.08.31 02:29:00 - [29] I lost a litter of rats once. With rodents it didn't take long to find them. I just the nearest pile of clothes and found them all nested up in them.
jason hill Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.31 03:18:00 - [30] good greif ..i think im gonna puke tbh this isnt really the place to be posting this type of stuff tbh .. most of the peeps that read this forum is to be mostly informed about stuff thats relevent ... we mostly dont care about rodents ... so please ..take it somwhere else destroy everything you touch

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