Originally by: Praetor Novak

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[ISSUE] Fleet Battle Lag - Give us back warfare on a massive scale.

WARNING û Alliance/Power Block Neutral Post (Oh no! Whatever will you do?)

Fix this above all else û make massive fleet battles fun again, REMOVE THE LAG, remove the limitation of the current game mechanics from being the deciding factor in these most epic of battles! Let the victor be determined by the skill, fortitude, sheer luck and decisiveness of those whom wish to engage in this most holy pursuit of the chaos of EVE warfare.

Give us warfare back on a massive scale and make it fun again.

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Originally by: Commander Solo

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Edited by: Commander Solo on 02/09/2008 14:50:16

Its only not fun if you are loosing. Did you ever stop and think that the players are responsible for lag? The unwillingness to engage with even or comprable numbers creates these situations not CCP. Its human nature, not bad design choices.

massive !=fun

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1. Large fleet engagements are an emergent behavior based on game mechanics.


2. CCP encourages the existence of these large fleets through said game mechanics. (which they control)


3. Lag is cause by the underlying server architecture's inability to handle large fleets.

Originally by: Praetor Novak

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Originally by: Commander Solo

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Edited by: Commander Solo on 02/09/2008 14:50:16

Its only not fun if you are loosing. Did you ever stop and think that the players are responsible for lag? The unwillingness to engage with even or comprable numbers creates these situations not CCP. Its human nature, not bad design choices.

massive !=fun

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Wow! You are truly impressive with your trite little comments. Did you ever stop and think about root cause analysis? CCP has engineered EVE to encompass the existence of massive battlefields comprised of hundreds of players. Let me be more clear to you and use short sentences:

1. Large fleet engagements are an emergent behavior based on game mechanics.


2. CCP encourages the existence of these large fleets through said game mechanics. (which they control)


3. Lag is cause by the underlying server architecture's inability to handle large fleets.

Any good FC knows there is a time to engage and a time to not engage; however your attempts to make what I posted partisan and political are feeble and a failure good sir.

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Maybe we're recruiting, I don't know, spam eve-mails to Daniel Zorg, and go into a coma for a week.

Originally by: Proxay

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ATM, there is nothing that can be done, aside from petitioning a GM with a senior alliance leader, to inform them one downtime prior, that there will be a fleet battle at XYZ location, so they can reinforce the node adequately.

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Originally by: Colonel Xaven

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Originally by: Proxay

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ATM, there is nothing that can be done, aside from petitioning a GM with a senior alliance leader, to inform them one downtime prior, that there will be a fleet battle at XYZ location, so they can reinforce the node adequately.

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...which means spies would be redundant. Good point.

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Originally by: Plague Black

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3 years of BOB trying to sweep the truth under the rug and 3 years of constant failure to do so. BOB got caught cheating multiple times, denies all accusations despite overwhelming evidence, admited even by CCP staff, and they have the nerv to call themselves skilled. Each time someone brings up cheating to table entire BOB high command gets all fired up, alts are included to water down threads, fill them with sensless cr4p (Tri is doing this for you lately, there is not a single intelligent word coming from their mouth anywy) until threads are so ruined that a forum moderator must lock them.

Give up bobits, you will always bear the mark of shame, cheaters cought red-handed bending and breaking rules of the game we all like. No matter how hard you try there will always be thousand of pilots hating your guts for what you really are, never forgetting what you did. Get used to people always brining the truth to the table, with zeal you will not be able to compehend.

Once a great man said that all it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing (was it Sir Edmund Burke or was it derived from Russian literature it does not really matter). Luckily for EVE there will alway be good men opposing BOB and what they represent. You are s****of eve, 1337 only in how you break rules of the game to spoil it for everyone else, failing at equal conditions pvp whenever you are deprived of your metagaming toys.

You will fail, even if it takes another 3 years to take you down you future is sealed. And once that happens you will only be remembered for dirt you brought to game, where everyone will thank God for not having you in the game any more. All ex members of BOB will bear a mark of shame in their corp and alliance history having hard time to explain why they joined you in the first place, or lying that this is a character they bought from someone else.

And soon this thread will be locked, forgotten by majority of EVE population but the goal to bring you down will stay alive until your miserable existance ends.

You should have taken the snake.

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Originally by: Luthien Firefoot

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I am heart sick at being cheated out of my chance to pvp.

I am sick of the tactics used over the past four years by band of brothers.

From 4 years ago, when it was just the naive COD, who allowed you to 'blue' a corp that was obviously giving you intel, to more modern times, where you have gained the ability and the lowness to infiltrate even ccp and destroy my game that I pay for.

In what I can only decribe as another 'hax' tonight, BOB somehow managed to so limit a portion of the eve server, that 'less' than 150 pilots were unable to travel 3 jumps in 17 minutes and 48 seconds, into a destination system that head less than 200.

This lag miraculously cleared within 30 seconds of them taking down the PURE cynojammer.

I've seen it too many times, I suppose that my little voice is not important enought to register an article iin the NY times and I don't have a friend at ccp, so I will continue to do what I can to stop this obvious exploitation, by x'ing up and keeping fighting.

I'm fighting for an ideal, against a foe that will stop at nothing to win, even when winning becomes moot, because they have all the cards.

Cheats never prosper, but they do unfortunately.

Posting with a main.

Luth.

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Originally by: Duke North

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Well the lagg thing is CCP they have not the server to manage 500peeps in all systems i can be in JIta with 800 peeps in there with no lag but if there is like 150 peeps in sv5 it take 32min to jump from Keberz thru HED-GP then another 30min to jump in to SV5 from HED-GP i made a petiont to ccp about it and thay answered the same macro answer as all of em do all the have petioned stuff now what i mean.
CCP should actuall refund peeps insteed from there monthly bill due to the fact the game dont manage to play an all systems with more then 150 peeps in it

Regards

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Originally by: Karbowiak

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I will admit, the lag in TVN tonight was horrible - and it all came around the time BoB started the attack on PURE or who ever it is..
However, directly blaming BoB for the lag, or saying they hacked or got some insider at CCP to "limit" the server.
Thats a stretch

I mean, which sane person would cause grief for its company, risk ones job and at the same time - "destroy" a virtual game for alot of people ?

So mr. Luthien, no - BoB did maybe lag out the node their system used - the rest of the lag might have been caused by the fact the whole north is bundled up in blobs atm.

But yeah, good troll tho

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Originally by: Rusty 123

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Originally by: Karbowiak

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I will admit, the lag in TVN tonight was horrible - and it all came around the time BoB started the attack on PURE or who ever it is..
However, directly blaming BoB for the lag, or saying they hacked or got some insider at CCP to "limit" the server.
Thats a stretch

I mean, which sane person would cause grief for its company, risk ones job and at the same time - "destroy" a virtual game for alot of people ?

So mr. Luthien, no - BoB did maybe lag out the node their system used - the rest of the lag might have been caused by the fact the whole north is bundled up in blobs atm.

But yeah, good troll tho

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lol u say that but they spawned bpos once!!!!

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Originally by: Luthien Firefoot

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Eve online is a great game, thats a fact and if you're reading this then you probably agree.

I been playing this game for four years, more than most and not as long as quite a few.

I am gonna get a load of hassle for posting this, but I don't give a fk, for those of you that know me, you know why, for those that don't, well you can make you own mind up.

Don't bother to flame my alliance, it's nothing to do with them, I fly with them because, like a lot of you, it's good to log on and speak to ppl that you are familiar with.

Don't bother to insult me as a carebear or a miner, I am a pvper and I am always on the front line, before you shout me down, while I do not claim to be the best or even good at what I do, check your killboard, it's a descent chance that I have killed more of you than you have killed me.

So, what's my point then ?

I am heart sick at being cheated out of my chance to pvp.

I am sick of the tactics used over the past four years by band of brothers.

From 4 years ago, when it was just the naive COD, who allowed you to 'blue' a corp that was obviously giving you intel, to more modern times, where you have gained the ability and the lowness to infiltrate even ccp and destroy my game that I pay for.

In what I can only decribe as another 'hax' tonight, BOB somehow managed to so limit a portion of the eve server, that 'less' than 150 pilots were unable to travel 3 jumps in 17 minutes and 48 seconds, into a destination system that head less than 200.

This lag miraculously cleared within 30 seconds of them taking down the PURE cynojammer.

I've seen it too many times, I suppose that my little voice is not important enought to register an article iin the NY times and I don't have a friend at ccp, so I will continue to do what I can to stop this obvious exploitation, by x'ing up and keeping fighting.

I'm fighting for an ideal, against a foe that will stop at nothing to win, even when winning becomes moot, because they have all the cards.

Cheats never prosper, but they do unfortunately.

Posting with a main.

Luth.

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