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Mikael Mechka
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Posted - 2008.09.01 06:52:00 -
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I'm nearing one of those points where I need to decide what to train for.
When I first started playing EVE, I wanted to be an Interdictor pilot but now with Heavy Interdictors, I don't know if it's worth training them.
Do the light dessie versions still have a use now that their big brothers are flying about?
For the sake of completeness, I'm looking at the Eris and the Phobos, according to EVEMON, I can be in a Eris in about 50 days (I have fairly poor learning skills), or a Phobos in about 70 days. I can already use t2 light rails and blasters, but nowhere near the mediums yet. So EVEMON's estimation is for a full t2 Eris and a basic, low dps fit Phobos.
Any advice is appreciated.
Fly safe. |
Nian Banks
Minmatar Berserkers of Aesir
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Posted - 2008.09.01 06:54:00 -
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Yes interdictors are useful, they can give T2 Rig salvage when blown up... Or maybe even faction warfare. |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.09.01 07:15:00 -
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Yes, yes, and yes. Light dics = cheap, fast. Can plop bubble and then gtfo. Heavy dics = easy to survive DD, two bubble modes, has to sit there, big tank and much more expensive.
Unless you want to tackle super caps, I would almost always go with the light dictor. |
Nocturnal Avenger
Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.01 07:16:00 -
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The "light" dictor is still very useful in a fast moving gang. |
Evanade
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.01 07:33:00 -
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i daresay that light dictors are *more* useful than heavies because thye can bubble and gtfo rather than stay and get bown up |
Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace
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Posted - 2008.09.01 08:24:00 -
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Dictors are more ideal for roaming gangs as well. |
BiggestT
Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.09.01 10:09:00 -
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Whats to love: -A ship that costs as much as an interceptor -Is more agile and efficient at the typical "bubble" role -Will get on evey km that inst instapop -V. good anticeptor ship -Is gettings its base speed boosted post nano-nerf! (check the graphs in nozh's blogg) -They look shiny and are fun to fly
Whats not to love: -Instapopness -Destoyer 5 training (rather annoying imo, i dont use bases destroyers for pvp while i still use battlcruisers after training CS) -Cant (without pimp setup) tank dd's
Overall Pro's outwiegh cons, post nano it will be a damn fine ship
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Heikki
Gallente Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.09.01 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Mikael Mechka wanted to be an Interdictor pilot
Very good call still; much needed role both in fun roaming gangs and big strategic ops.
And some tips to make the life even more fun: - Forget guns; don't fit single aggressive mod at least on high slots - Listen to FC - Salvage outpays the running costs..
-Lasse who thinks a dictor makes better ratting alt-buddy ship than a carrier.. |
Lady Valory
Caldari Caldari Strike Force
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Posted - 2008.09.01 11:14:00 -
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There is a good fear factor in dictors also...
If you adopt a pure submarine role, you can go after haulers, shuttles, t1 frigs, and other lightly armed ships...
Also, once you fly around enemy space, you can be sure that you've interdicted traffic as lots of people will dock up at length.
if they deploy a "submarine hunter group" to chase you, then you've tied up many enemy ships with just one...
Also, you're having a "cascade effect"... Many of the haulers in 0.0 are feeding pos networks after the rorqual or carrier has brought in lots of fuel to a "fueling point". By disrupting their logistics, you are making pilots either deploy more cynos to every individual pos and also disrupting pos refueling schedules. Once you pop your first hauler loaded with robotics then you can see my point.
In some areas the hauler traffic is still alot, so slipping a dictor alt in there just to run around for 15 minutes every now and then is good fun. RA space around RA prime was a great place to catch unwary pilots.
The sad thing however is you usually have to pop the cans after. For example, killing a t2 impel loaded with pos fuel or just about anything--its impossible to haul much loot.
In conclusion, you might fly around for an hour and just get a shuttle, but you've still done your part to hinder enemy operations for the above reasons. |
Arvald
Caldari Ninjas N Pirates Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.09.01 11:32:00 -
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you will never hear an fc say oh its ok we already have enough dictors |
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Dr Jamius
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Posted - 2008.09.01 11:45:00 -
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Personally I wouldn't train for an Eris. Despite the previous speed nerf, the Sabre still pwns, it's undoubtedly still the best dictor. You can't chase around inties like before, but they're still pretty fast and pack a punch. If you know of a nice 0.0 to Empire route then camping around waiting for haulers and cov ops/frigs containing splendid loot is a good way to earn a few hundred mil isk. ;)
The big advantage the HICs have is of course that focused point and a nice tank so they're useful for low sec piracy. You can tank the guns long enough to kill a hauler/transport.
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Delichon
The First Foundation SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2008.09.01 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald you will never hear an fc say oh its ok we already have enough dictors
This TBH.
Cloacked dictor in a fleet ops is pure madness - imagine the outcry over the enemy TS "Pop him before he drops the bubble! Hostile cyno! OH SH....!!!!!!!" <insert sound of double DD here>
But on the other had - dictor makes a better alt than main. It is not pretty to log off after you have been popped 5 seconds into the fight, while all the guys are fighting... |
Gimpb
Sturmgrenadier Inc Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2008.09.01 12:19:00 -
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They tend to get popped fairly often but for the money it's one of the most useful ships out there. In many situations they actually seem to be more survivable than hictors because of their ability to bubble and cloak and their better speed and maneuverability. |
Red zeon
Caldari Circle of Shadows Bionic Dawn
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Posted - 2008.09.01 12:48:00 -
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luckyly me i trained destroyers to 5 long time ago, just to fly them, but never trained interdictor skill :P or even really flown destroyers more than a couple time and that was to salvage. |
Yuri Vladomirovic
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Posted - 2008.09.01 13:14:00 -
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Ofcourse they are: They are as important part of a nano gang as Zealots for dps, Falcons for EW and Huggins for tackle. They are usaually not just bubble throwers but forward-scouts and beltratter-catchers in nanogangs. |
Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2008.09.01 13:25:00 -
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+ Alot of corps and alliances will buy them for you! |
Red zeon
Caldari Circle of Shadows Bionic Dawn
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Posted - 2008.09.01 14:07:00 -
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oh btw, also you can deploy a bubble like 100km off a gate so if someone warps to the gate they warp to the bubble, can you do that with a heavy dictor? |
Evanade
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.01 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Red zeon oh btw, also you can deploy a bubble like 100km off a gate so if someone warps to the gate they warp to the bubble, can you do that with a heavy dictor?
No, the bubble moves with you |
Felix Dzerzhinsky
Caldari Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.09.01 14:14:00 -
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its worth it to fly the saber fyi. . . |
Bronson Hughes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
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Posted - 2008.09.01 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Red zeon oh btw, also you can deploy a bubble like 100km off a gate so if someone warps to the gate they warp to the bubble, can you do that with a heavy dictor?
Yes and no. If you're doing it to pull people out of warp for an ambush then yes, the Heavy 'Dictor can do that. If you're laying a bubble off the gate to slow down a fleet in pursuit, then no a Heavy 'Dictor can't do that (at least not without sacrificing itself). |
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Mikael Mechka
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Posted - 2008.09.01 19:29:00 -
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Thank you all for the replies :)
Looks like Interdictors are still on the cards :)
My only concern is that if I do a "submarine" role, I'd need to be 100% commited to it, to the exclusion of even earning isk. Reason being, I don't use alts. I have only one account, and only one character (I vaguely feel having more would detract from the game). |
Lady Valory
Caldari Caldari Strike Force
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Posted - 2008.09.01 20:23:00 -
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Someone really smart said, "You can play for killmails or play for isk, but you can't do both at the same time." |
Corstaad
Minmatar Vardr ok Lidskjalv Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.09.01 21:35:00 -
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I find with other source's of isk I start playing like a ****** and end up losing more money/fights. Add in a very limited play schedule and two account aren't worth it. Now I'm debating just dropping my second account(going straight edge yarring ) or selling it for a few billion. |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.09.01 21:38:00 -
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Any fleet that is moving needs interdictors. Alot of FCs prefer them. |
The Tzar
Malicious Intentions Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.09.02 00:13:00 -
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Against the kind of blobs seen these days even HIC tanks don't last long at all.
So yes, dictors are much more valuable in my opinion.
Lowsec is obviously a different matter... |
Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.09.02 00:19:00 -
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Dictors can hold supercaps way longer than any HIC due to problems with killing dropped bubs (only smartys work). On the other hand nano nerf will just kill that ship class - because after dropping bubble they wont be able to escape its radius before they die. |
Corstaad
Minmatar Vardr ok Lidskjalv Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.09.02 00:27:00 -
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There pretty much a must have for 0.0. Also in low sec you can use Dessie V and kill any frig if you want. |
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