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Yuri Vladomirovic	Posted - 2008.09.15 12:48:00 - [211] My 10 cents that Ladylub n NightmareX are the same person... MR, U ARE A FREAK!!!
LadyLubU2 Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.09.15 12:55:00 - [212] Originally by: Yuri Vladomirovic My 10 cents that Ladylub n NightmareX are the same person... MR, U ARE A FREAK!!! NightmareX would wish he was me, because as it looks now the "OMG LOL UR POASTING WITH AN ALT U NOOOB LOLOLOLOL person" is using more common sense than the OMG LOL I HAZ 52M SP AND A FEDERATE ISSUE MEGA WICH MEANS I KNOW ALL person".
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.09.15 13:12:00 - [213] Originally by: Yuri Vladomirovic My 10 cents that Ladylub n NightmareX are the same person... MR, U ARE A FREAK!!! Your alt detector is faulty.
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 13:18:00 - [214] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 13:20:42 LadyLubU2, you really are trying to look pretty dumb or what?. If over 2 years with a Megathron don't give me pretty good experience on how the ship is, then i don't know. But one thing is for sure, a Megathron still don't need to be boosted atm. The only boost that is needed after an eventually web and speed nerf is coming is tracking. But to the question you asked: What is the point of using a ship that pumps out 1.3k dps at 5km over a ship that pumps out 1.1k dps at 30km, especially when your going to take the webnerf, scrambler changes AND ALOT LESS MOBILITY FOR BATTLEHSHIPS into account?. LOL, peoples that ask questions like this is really stupid. Torpedoes are torpedoes, and they can't just change the torps or guns just because one of them have a range advantage with nice DPS over one. And no, i don't have alts. Or i have a 2nd account with a character there, but that account is innactive. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
Yuri Vladomirovic	Posted - 2008.09.15 13:33:00 - [215] Originally by: AstroPhobic Originally by: Yuri Vladomirovic My 10 cents that Ladylub n NightmareX are the same person... MR, U ARE A FREAK!!! Your alt detector is faulty. Your quote opened my eyes, and that made me a sad panda! Hell, u get a black panda point from me, with a big freakin eyerollin...
Delichon The First Foundation SOLAR FLEET	Posted - 2008.09.15 13:40:00 - [216] Edited by: Delichon on 15/09/2008 13:41:25 Originally by: NightmareX And then you say that solo pvp is dead and death, that also proves that your ****ed, jesus christ man. Lowsec pie detected. Once I hear someone boasting that he solos in BS (actually - any mention of "solo" apart from "Vaga", "Rapier", "Curse" and some other ships) - I know that this is about lowsec. Because even free cake and 3D-exotic dancers don't get null-sec pilots so arroused as "XXX in YYY flying a mega". Just 5 jumps through monitored territory and you are in bubble with 3-4 recons/HACs on you, jammed and dual-webbed, 10 km away from the gate. And help is not coming... ------------------------------------------ All nerfs are meant to hurt you personally**. They will be nerfing you directly next. EVE A new game every 6 months. (c) Atomos Darksun
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.09.15 13:48:00 - [217] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 15/09/2008 13:48:59 Originally by: Delichon Originally by: NightmareX And then you say that solo pvp is dead and death, that also proves that your *****ed, jesus christ man. Lowsec pie detected. Once I hear someone boasting that he solos in BS (actually - any mention of "solo" apart from "Vaga", "Rapier", "Curse" and some other ships) - I know that this is about lowsec. Of course. Low-sec piracy is where you can have fun, solo and profit (well, if you don't leeroy / die to FW blobs too much / ransom people) rolled in one, if you can cope with sentries and FW blobs occuring in FW areas. Still wouldn't consider solo roaming in low-sec with a BS to be a exceptionally good idea *which means, you get 10 ceptors+20 other cruiser-sized ships (generally there'll be a Minmatar recon there too just to make your day) on you if you jump in one of these, so not even a nano helps if they have any clue (unless you do a burn back to gate + ctrl q maneuver), given agressing anyone first means 352 DPS with infinite tracking and 150km range. Fortunately, all that crap only really occurs in about 40-50 hotspot systems. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail mods@ccpgames.com ~Saint
Delichon The First Foundation SOLAR FLEET	Posted - 2008.09.15 14:40:00 - [218] Originally by: Cpt Branko ... clever stuff... Which is fine and well. I have nothing against lowsec, when I was out of corp - I went roaming in a nano while being in FW-corp (just to avoid those 352 infinite traking things) Well, to tell the truth - I know 1 person who is capable of soloing(as in - 1 account, no Falcon alts allowed) in a BS in nullsec, but a) It's a cruise Raven b) It has to do with his most common enemies just as much as it has to do with his personal skill. But in 99,99(9) cases saying you can solo in BS in nullsec is BS. ------------------------------------------ All nerfs are meant to hurt you personally. They will be nerfing you directly next. EVE A new game every 6 months. (c) Atomos Darksun
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 14:51:00 - [219] Originally by: Delichon But in 99,99(9) cases saying you can solo in BS in nullsec is BS. You haven't seen what Gasi and Gods are doing in low sec right?. They are 96% mostly solp pvping in low sec in Megathrons. Watch the movies from them, and you will see why Solo pvp is not dead and wont be death either as much you guys are trying to tell. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
LadyLubU2 Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.09.15 15:03:00 - [220] Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 13:26:43 LadyLubU2, you really are trying to look pretty dumb or what?. If over 2 years with a Megathron don't give me pretty good experience on how the ship is, then i don't know. But one thing is for sure, a Megathron still don't need to be boosted atm. The only boost that is needed after an eventually web and speed nerf is coming is tracking. But to the question you asked: What is the point of using a ship that pumps out 1.3k dps at 5km over a ship that pumps out 1.1k dps at 30km, especially when your going to take the webnerf, scrambler changes AND ALOT LESS MOBILITY FOR BATTLEHSHIPS into account?. LOL, peoples that ask questions like this is really stupid. Torpedoes are torpedoes, and they can't just change the torps or guns just because one of them have a range advantage with nice DPS over one. And then you say that solo pvp is dead and death, that also proves that your ****ed, jesus christ man. And no, i don't have alts. Or i have a 2nd account with a character there, but that account is innactive. Are you completely stupid? WTF do torpedo's have to do with the question i asked you? And yes, you still didnt asnwered my question, i bet you dont even know the ing answer, neither have you tried the changes to the mega on the testerver. You know, im not even going to try to argue with you because you have proven time after time you dont have a ing clue what your talking about. Just a last hint for you: Sure, if something has a range advantage over something else there is no problem, its the way it is, but when mobility and web gets changed so harsly for battleships, it is going to be a problem. You really arent wondering why the elite trains for t2 pulses and amarr battleship 5 right now? Bet you are too **ing stupid for that.

achoura	Posted - 2008.09.15 15:17:00 - [221] Originally by: NightmareX Originally by: Delichon But in 99,99(9) cases saying you can solo in BS in nullsec is BS. You haven't seen what Gasi and Gods are doing in low sec right?. They are 96% mostly solp pvping in low sec in Megathrons. Watch the movies from them, and you will see why Solo pvp is not dead and wont be death either as much you guys are trying to tell. Despite how annoyingly effective a killer you are , you've always ha alot of respect but really, you sound like a ** trolling. Dumped your head or lost your security blanket? This is not about what is happening now, it's been said multiple times so i don't know how to put it simpler but please, do try and do your best to comprehend. this is not about what is happening here and now. But if Laing can find it, i had the mega/raven argument with him afew months back ad he kindly ran the figures, well anyway. a torp raven, fit with tackle and scram, has the same efhp as a mega, much, much better damage at a much, much higher range and (lol) is actually faster than the mega with it's mwd. Moreover it's almost totally unaffected by the patch, which is the point of all this but since those 2.5 brain-cells already got lost and confused i'm wasting my time. The EVE servers and their patches**
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 15:19:00 - [222] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 15:26:22 OMG LOL, all of the alts or noobs who are trying to prove that they know so much more than me, waaaaah welp. And LadyLubU2, how many times have i told you that i have been using a Megathron on sisi for over 2 years there already?. I have tested every damn bit that is needed to test about the Megathron to now. I know how the ship works. Like i know how the Tempest works. And you said: You really arent wondering why the elite trains for t2 pulses and amarr battleship 5 right now? Bet you are too ing stupid for that.. Do you really know why so many are doing it, because there is so many uberfail players out here in EVE that just goes to the race who are a lil better than another race, because they just want to be the best race until it gets nerfed to hell and back again, so i can laught my ass of. I'm still good with the race / ships most of you says is the crappiest bs race, aka Minmatar, but hey, there is only stupid players who are going to other races because they fail terribly at using one race right. And i still know that the Megathron is fine. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
Liang Nuren No Salvation	Posted - 2008.09.15 15:28:00 - [223] Originally by: NightmareX I'm still good with the race / ships most of you says is the crappiest bs race, aka Minmatar, but hey, there is only stupid players who are going to other races because they fail terribly at using one race right. Sigh, you're so damn full of yourself, nublet. Just because you're good at flying it doesn't make it good. Hell, I'm good at flying them too - doesn't make it a good ship. What it means is that I'm handicapping myself and still winning. -Liang --
arbalesttom Caldari Glauxian Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.15 15:30:00 - [224] Ihmo that Ladylubu is right. And NightmareX is being the clown in this thread, hes really good at it *Sig* Originally by: Cpt Branko That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners.
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 15:31:00 - [225] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 15:34:57 So your saying that if everyone use the Tempest for example right and make it to work pretty good as my Tempest works with my experience and skills, it's still crap?. LOL just LOL. The thing with the Tempest is that you have to use the 100% right setup, and you need to use the ship 100% right to before it gets any good, if you don't do that, you will auto fail in the ship. Adapt to that, it's how it is. And this is also why so many fails with the Tempest, because most gives up on the ship and just fail more by going to another race. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
achoura	Posted - 2008.09.15 15:35:00 - [226] No, i'm wondering what's absent in your life that makes you feel you have to prove, or even care, what some ppl flying imaginary spaceships over the internet think about you is wrong. /me awaits click *The EVE servers and their patches*
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 15:42:00 - [227] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 15:45:24 Only the stupid ones and noobs thinks i'm wrong. Ask any very experienced Megathron pilots if they need any boost except for the tracking boost that actually all large guns when the speed and web nerf is coming. You will get the same answers as i have been telling all the time here. OMG, like i care about what those noobs and stupid peoples have to say, yeah really. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
Mr Ignitious Gallente R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2008.09.15 15:43:00 - [228] i've read this damn thing from page 1. Pretty sure i used an alt to post too... However I need to point something out so we can consider it; The EHP of a geddon is = to that of the megathrons, varying 1k EHP above or below, depending on small variances in fittings for the two. But the problem here is that if the EHP is that close, the range advantage of the geddon ruins the megathron as the geddon can work through some of the thron. After/if the mega gets into range then the extra dps has to be enough to catch up with what the geddon has done. That 70-100 dps isn't going to cut it. The fact that the geddon tracks better doesn't help either. I dont believe gallente need some HUGE buff or anything, there are just some things that could use some addressing: the obvious RSD bonus increased on the maulus, celestis, arazu and lachesis, some tracking for large blasters and maybe some DPS OR some hp. Also, just a MECHANICS thing, changes to active tanking (both shield and armor) need help as resist bonus per level has essentially the same effect as rep bonus's, but also helps EHP and remote rep assistance... Which really just blows active tanking away. Thats how i feel. I'll prob edit this post later to accomodate apposing views so that it seems like a more educated argument, but i have class now ^^
LadyLubU2 Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.09.15 15:52:00 - [229] Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 15:45:24 Only the stupid ones and noobs thinks i'm wrong. Ask any very experienced Megathron pilots if they need any boost except for the tracking boost that actually all large guns when the speed and web nerf is coming. You will get the same answers as i have been telling all the time here. OMG, like i care about what those noobs and stupid peoples have to say, yeah really. So if we all are stupid noobs and other things, and you are pretending to be mr uber himself, just answer my question without making any senseless comment about missiles. I bet you are still to stupid to answer it, because you only can say 'OMG lol stupid alt look me im ubar 52m sp lol noob', 'omfg u phail noob bcuz i has sp and a federate thron on sisi wich makes me>you lulz'. Now if you are the pro your pretending to be (), answer my question i have stated 2 times to you and you still didnt aswer.
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 16:02:00 - [230] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 16:06:20 Originally by: LadyLubU2 Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 15:45:24 Only the stupid ones and noobs thinks i'm wrong. Ask any very experienced Megathron pilots if they need any boost except for the tracking boost that actually all large guns when the speed and web nerf is coming. You will get the same answers as i have been telling all the time here. OMG, like i care about what those noobs and stupid peoples have to say, yeah really. So if we all are stupid noobs and other things, and you are pretending to be mr uber himself, just answer my question without making any senseless comment about missiles. I bet you are still to stupid to answer it, because you only can say 'OMG lol stupid alt look me im ubar 52m sp lol noob', 'omfg u phail noob bcuz i has sp and a federate thron on sisi wich makes me>you lulz'. Now if you are the pro your pretending to be (), answer my question i have stated 2 times to you and you still didnt aswer. So only because i have owned a Megathron Federate Issue on sisi makes me uber?, wow just wow. You can see a picture of the ship here if you wanna look: Megathron Federate Issue. With that setup i was pushing out around 1.2k DPS before overload. And the tank was uhm well awesome. All i was telling that i had a fight against a Pilgrim in that ship and was still able to hit him when i had 2x Tracking Disruptor II's on my ass. What is the point of using a ship that pumps out 1.3k dps at 5km over a ship that pumps out 1.1k dps at 30km, especially when your going to take the webnerf, scrambler changes AND ALOT LESS MOBILITY FOR BATTLEHSHIPS into account? 1st, that is how it is now on TQ, except for the mass and agility changes. But like CCP have told, they are going to change the Missiles and that a bit before they will release the web and speed nerf on TQ. So the only thing i have to say here is, wait and see what's happening. 2nd, no one except for CCP knows how the Heavy Missiles, Cruise Missiles and Torps etc will be now. So before you know it, all Torps and Cruiser Missiles and the other missiles have been changed drasticly before it hit TQ. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'

Trind2222 Amarr The Red Ring	Posted - 2008.09.15 16:18:00 - [231] I got Galente bs to 5 and the bs don't need a fix they are fine as they are. The speed is sill under "Testing" in sisi. I can install sisi if you want but probely not change my mind. Galente bs is still the best i think. ____________ Wrangler comes back out wearing his wizard hat and robe Wrangler: Hail and well met from Blizzard, how might I assist you?
LadyLubU2 Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.09.15 16:28:00 - [232] Edited by: LadyLubU2 on 15/09/2008 16:30:03 Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 16:13:36 Originally by: LadyLubU2 Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 15:45:24 Only the stupid ones and noobs thinks i'm wrong. Ask any very experienced Megathron pilots if they need any boost except for the tracking boost that actually all large guns when the speed and web nerf is coming. You will get the same answers as i have been telling all the time here. OMG, like i care about what those noobs and stupid peoples have to say, yeah really. So if we all are stupid noobs and other things, and you are pretending to be mr uber himself, just answer my question without making any senseless comment about missiles. I bet you are still to stupid to answer it, because you only can say 'OMG lol stupid alt look me im ubar 52m sp lol noob', 'omfg u phail noob bcuz i has sp and a federate thron on sisi wich makes me>you lulz'. Now if you are the pro your pretending to be (), answer my question i have stated 2 times to you and you still didnt aswer. So only because i have owned a Megathron Federate Issue on sisi makes me uber?, wow just wow. You can see a picture of the ship here if you wanna look: Megathron Federate Issue. With that setup i was pushing out around 1.2k DPS before overload. And the tank was uhm well awesome. And with T2 Neutrons with CN Antimatter L and 3 of the same MFS, i could push out around 1.8k DPS after overload. All i was telling that i had a fight against a Pilgrim in that ship and was still able to hit him when i had 2x Tracking Disruptor II's on my ass. What is the point of using a ship that pumps out 1.3k dps at 5km over a ship that pumps out 1.1k dps at 30km, especially when your going to take the webnerf, scrambler changes AND ALOT LESS MOBILITY FOR BATTLEHSHIPS into account? 1st, that is how it is now on TQ, except for the mass and agility and scram changes. But like CCP have told, they are going to change the Missiles and that a bit before they will release the web and speed nerf on TQ. So the only thing i have to say here is, wait and see what's happening. Oh by the way, the disabling thing on scrams that disable MWD's is removed for good. it wont return. 2nd, no one except for CCP knows how the Heavy Missiles, Cruise Missiles and Torps etc will be now. So before you know it, all Torps and Cruiser Missiles and the other missiles have been changed drasticly before it hit TQ. Dont you get it? THE FACT YOU HAVE USED A FEDERATE THRON ON SISI HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FACT HOW THE BLASTERSHIPS WILL BE AFTER THE NERF. Your only posting it for your epeen, and no one in this forums gives a shit about your epeen nor the fact you owned a federate thron. So please, refrain from posting that you had one because i dont **ing care, and the other people dont ing care (and if you had lost the federate thron to that pilgrim, lol, it really says alot about how 'ing-uber' you are). Ps, owning a federate thron is not an agrument how blasterships will be broken after the nerf. Your coming with those senseless arguments about missiles again. WE DONT CARE HOW MISSILES GET CHANGES, WE ARE DISCUSSING THE STATE OF BLASTERSHIPS AFTER THE NERF, so stop posting about missiles, stop posting about your federate thron, stop posting about how uber you are in your tempest, we dont ing care about that. Got it now? So, are you going to aswer my question or not, 'mr omgleetpvper' you pretend to be? ps. before you post, remember, we dont **ing care about missiles, federate throns, minmatar ships, all this topic is about is the state of blasterships (and gallente overall) after the nerf.
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 16:33:00 - [233] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 16:36:15 Your coming with those senseless arguments about missiles again. WE DONT CARE HOW MISSILES GET CHANGES, WE ARE DISCUSSING THE STATE OF BLASTERSHIPS AFTER THE NERF. I'm talking about the blasterships after the nerf idiot, i'm trying to tell your damn little nut brain that Blasters don't need to be boosted after the nerf, because missiles are changed after the nerf. Don't you get it idiot? But still talk like you know so much, when your not, because talk to the hand cuz the face aint listening fool. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
Trind2222 Amarr The Red Ring	Posted - 2008.09.15 16:38:00 - [234] Edited by: Trind2222 on 15/09/2008 16:39:48 The problem here is complaing about the wrong thing. It mwd base speed is realy the problem here on sisi. not any galente bs right? But I will still fly galente bs after the nerf. ____________ Wrangler comes back out wearing his wizard hat and robe Wrangler: Hail and well met from Blizzard, how might I assist you?
Delichon The First Foundation SOLAR FLEET	Posted - 2008.09.15 16:39:00 - [235] Some explaining for the thick guys. Originally by: Delichon But in 99,99(9) cases saying you can solo in BS in nullsecis BS. Originally by: NightmareX You haven't seen what Gasi and Gods are doing in low sec right?. They are 96% mostly solp pvping in low sec in Megathrons. Some explanation. I don't care about BS-solo or lowsec types of PVP ATM. When these two types of PVP are combined - the degree of me not caring is quadripled I just couldn't help but notice that solo in nullsec is a dying art and is restricted to nano ships. BS solo in nullsec? Not in my Eve. :) ------------------------------------------ All nerfs are meant to hurt you personally. They will be nerfing you directly next. EVE A new game every 6 months. (c) Atomos Darksun
Mr Ignitious Gallente R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2008.09.15 17:18:00 - [236] I want to look an enlightened individual and mediate a little bit here: Luverlady or w/e the hell it is: Part of Nightmare's proposal that large blasters need a buff (which i disagree with personally) is because they aren't competitive with other weapon systems, like lazorzz and torps. Now the reason that the missile arguments ARE relevant is because if missiles are nerfed/changed so that the advantage for having extreme short range are still "worth it" then they can still be considered valuable. Now some of my contradictory views(for Nightmare): K, so missiles may be getting tweaked some. But that still leaves the advantages of the mid range weapon system, lasers. I do NOT want lasers nerfed. Amarr suffered long enough. What could be done is some tracking boosting to large blasters. This seems a logical approach as a "mid range weapon" should not need such high tracking because ideally its targets are at its optimal. That makes sense to me. One of the other problems people addressed: Megathron not being fast enough to get into range without getting wtfpwned through its buffer. Ok, so we have 2 main options I see here; Amp mega's speed, or Amp mega's buffer. (quick thing, i shouldn't be using mega i guess, i should just say Gal Bs Buffer... but i'm lazy) EVE is a sandbox, and saddeningly becoming less and less so... But i thought about it for a bit. To help minmitar out we let them keep the most agile and fastest bs's (not by much, but still enough to be viewed as an advantage) to help kite ships. This would help with the poor old tempest. There's a lot more to them to fix, but there's also a different thread for it. Next, caldari. Their role, support. Not necessarily logistics, but the extra umph dps (not HOLYGAWD dps, but still noteworth) as well as that extra engagement range to help with switching targets a little more quickly. Caldari are well known for being fat and slow, we can keep them where they are. Amarr. What a bad ass race, yes? i think they are fine. They are good at what they should be and it would be phenomenal if all races shined as such. They do lack tackling on their own, but that keeps them in their place a little bit. Finally, gallente. I have yet to spec out of them at all (i'm only at 20mil, but ive played for some time). If we wanted gallente to fill that niche of get to the primary and really make them piddle (heh, love that word) then they could use a little more speed. Not more than minmitar, and not necessarily agility, but more than amarr and caldari. With this dependence they could also use that little bit of tracking which could add to hit quality and get us closer to the ridiculous numbers EFT feeds us I hope this post reads as well as it went in my head ^^
Beltantis Torrence	Posted - 2008.09.15 18:23:00 - [237] Edited by: Beltantis Torrence on 15/09/2008 18:23:14 I'd be happy with Blasterthron if not for the stupidity of the 'tracking hole' 0-5km in front of them. If that was fixed then I don't really see an issue. You should be able to hit another BS that's 0KM away from you with large blasters assume he isn't moving.
Katy Karkinoff Minmatar Psycho Chicks	Posted - 2008.09.15 19:26:00 - [238] Originally by: Beltantis Torrence Edited by: Beltantis Torrence on 15/09/2008 18:23:14 I'd be happy with Blasterthron if not for the stupidity of the 'tracking hole' 0-5km in front of them. If that was fixed then I don't really see an issue. You should be able to hit another BS that's 0KM away from you with large blasters assume he isn't moving. nothing can hit at 0km, its part of the tracking formula, so its weird, but no turret can hit at 0. Also, if something isn't moving then there is not transversal, thus you have no tracking issues. The problem is that its hard to hit a bs thats moving webbed up within that 5km range. That is the problem.
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.09.15 20:12:00 - [239] Originally by: NightmareX Ask any very experienced Megathron pilots if they need any boost except for the tracking boost that actually all large guns need when the speed and web nerf is coming. Ignoring your behaviour in the thread (it's bad, man), I'd like to point out it'd be much easier to simply fix the tracking formula so you don't have a tracking hole as you get closer. Buffing tracking makes it far too trivial to hit cruisers outside webrange (4x tracking would make it instant death for anything orbiting at 20km). However, simply adding a tracking multiplier taking distance as a factor solves all the issues while having 0 effect outside of webrange. The solution to the 0m tracking hole and short-range tracking in general would be something preety easy, like this: current_tracking_formula* distance_modifier where (mind you, numbers are arbitrary but a good example nevertheless): distance_modifier=(3000/distance+1)+1 That would give us, basically: 7x tracking in <500 metres (where you're already practically bumping someone and therefore turrets should hit very easily) 4x tracking modifier at 1km (counteracting the web nerf at 1km) 2.5x tracking modifier at 2km (tracking drops off here, but so does angular velocity) 2x tracking modifier at 3km 1.6x tracking at 6km 1.3x tracking at 10km 1.23x tracking at 13km (edge of webrange) 1.15x tracking at 20km Which is about right (ok, you could modify it to reduce the tracking gains at beyond 10km range), enables some speedtanking in webrange but not total damage mitigation, and solves all your problems at shooting battleships up close. On top of it all, it's trivial to calculate, so I have the right to smack anyone claiming 'oh lag' on the head Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail mods@ccpgames.com ~Saint
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 20:17:00 - [240] Well yeah, it can get nasty and bad when someone have to use alts against me, it will absolutely not get any better by doing that. But about the 0m tracking hole. Yes that is something that need to be looked at i think. But that's somerhing that doesn't only are for Gallente though. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'

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