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Jaxel Valosh
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Posted - 2008.09.03 19:10:00 -
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Hey,
In an effort to better acquaint myself with the PF of EVE, I've been reading a lot of the chronicles, short stories and scientific articles on the site. But one thing I can't seem to find is how skillbooks are supposed to work.
Do they work like in the Matrix, except a lot slower? If they do, do the cybernetic implants required to interface the pod also work for uploading information? Or are there completely different implants for the skillbooks, so that non-eggers can use them as well?
I'm assuming that if the skills work like the Matrix, it just simply takes time to absorb the information contained it the skillbook. Neurons are being moved, etc.
Although pod-pilots aren't rendered incapacitated during the learning process, so how does that affect their waking mind? If you're walking around the station, doing business deals, meanwhile learning how to better pinpoint critical systems to do more damage with your railguns, wouldn't that be distracting?
I'm just curious as I'd like to start writing some short fiction about Jaxel, but I wanted to clarify some things first.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr
The Cosa Nostra
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Posted - 2008.09.03 21:34:00 -
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You read them, and it really takes a lot of pages to explain every function of a ship one kilometer in diameter and fifteen kilometers long.
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Jaxel Valosh
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Posted - 2008.09.03 22:01:00 -
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They can't be regular books. How am I learning how to pilot a new ship by reading a book, whilst stuck in a pod shooting other ships, or flying around the galaxy?
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Camperific
Es and Whizz
Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2008.09.03 22:10:00 -
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They are downloaded a la the matrix iirc
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.04 06:58:00 -
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The Skillbooks are Information about how a ship should be handled, that is transfered directly into your brain.
This way a pilot can be become an Expert Engineer, Electronic Warfare Specialist, Battleship Pilot and so on, within reasonable time. The Info is transfered directly into the Brain via the Pilot Implants and the Training time is actually a safety precaution, to prevent that the Brain is fried during the process.
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Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.09.04 17:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
The Skillbooks are Information about how a ship should be handled, that is transfered directly into your brain.
This way a pilot can be become an Expert Engineer, Electronic Warfare Specialist, Battleship Pilot and so on, within reasonable time. The Info is transfered directly into the Brain via the Pilot Implants and the Training time is actually a safety precaution, to prevent that the Brain is fried during the process.
This.
The neural jack from your capsule is used to download skills to your brain as you pilot. I assume the skillpacks, as they're referred to in PF, come not as a physical book, but more of a storage device for the data.
The training time is like downloading from the net... with such immense amounts of data, it takes a lot of time to exchange 
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.09.05 07:56:00 -
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I think of it a bit like an audio book, only without sound.
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Kathryn Dougans
Amarr
B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm
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Posted - 2008.09.05 13:20:00 -
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I'm sure I recall reading something about this.
Something like its to do with manipulating the parts of the brain that deal with memory.
I'll take a look, see if I can find it.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.09.08 22:02:00 -
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id agree with the matrix style only slower. however in lore the speed of training is called a safety issue, in an RL angle is a gameplay thing so that someone cant be flying freighters by the second day(not that they would have the 1billion isk for the frame itself in two days).
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Ackwell
Imperial Pharmacy
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Posted - 2008.10.23 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: Ackwell on 23/10/2008 11:51:14
It clearly states in the Empyrean Age book that the skills can be uploaded into your brain also when you are not in a pod. I think it could be a sub system for pod pilots in itself. Maybe given by the Jovians when they gave the pod technology. So it doesn't need a pod to learn skills but it needs a pod to be able to handle all the ships systems. Pod is a ship piloting system and skill learning is a sub system to make the training times for pod pilots shorter. As said in the short stories it takes a long learning process for the brain to be pod capable in the first place. Skill learning subsystem just shortens the learning period by skipping all ship piloting and technology etc. classes and it is not related with the pod itself and it doesnt need the pod rather than a pod trained brain to work.
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Caiman Graystock
Comrades in Construction
Anarchy.
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Posted - 2008.10.23 18:29:00 -
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Quote:
It clearly states in the Empyrean Age book that the skills can be uploaded into your brain also when you are not in a pod.
Given we'll all be walking around in stations soon this has to be a necessity.
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A Soporific
Caldari
Venom Pointe Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.24 02:04:00 -
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The cronicles, the book, and just about everything else explains that we walk around with that big ass jack in the back of our skulls. Why shouldn't the relevant devices be present there?
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Stitcher
Caldari
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.10.27 02:17:00 -
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put it this way - EVE is a very high-tech world. The Caldari routinely use quantum computers and graviton reactors, for example, not to mention all the other stuff.
Given that our own compartively primitive tech can squeeze several gigabytes of data storage onto something with the physical dimensions of a little fingernail, I think it's safe to assume that New Eden tech would be able to store tera- or even petabytes of information in a similar or smaller space.
With that in mind, picture a "skillbook" as a data storage device about as thick around as a match, but half the length. if one of the systems in the neural socket at the base of a pilot's skull is a receptacle for that device, then all that needs to happen then is to write the data onto the matrix of the human brain at a biologically safe speed.
As for why each skill level takes more time to complete than the last... well, picture Level 1 as the equivalent of following on-screen instructions in a wizard, whereas level 5 would be a total understanding of the principles on which both the hardware and software operate. |
Kenji Kimura
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Posted - 2008.11.03 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher
put it this way - EVE is a very high-tech world. The Caldari routinely use quantum computers and graviton reactors, for example, not to mention all the other stuff.
Given that our own compartively primitive tech can squeeze several gigabytes of data storage onto something with the physical dimensions of a little fingernail, I think it's safe to assume that New Eden tech would be able to store tera- or even petabytes of information in a similar or smaller space.
With that in mind, picture a "skillbook" as a data storage device about as thick around as a match, but half the length. if one of the systems in the neural socket at the base of a pilot's skull is a receptacle for that device, then all that needs to happen then is to write the data onto the matrix of the human brain at a biologically safe speed.
As for why each skill level takes more time to complete than the last... well, picture Level 1 as the equivalent of following on-screen instructions in a wizard, whereas level 5 would be a total understanding of the principles on which both the hardware and software operate.
Remember that short story, the Jovian Wetgrave? To interface with a capsule, you need to receive implants. Assuming that Stitcher is right (and he probably is), there's no reason that one of the implants isn't a neural datajack or something that can interface with tiny datachips...
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