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Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.09.05 14:31:00 - [31] Originally by: Benco97 Originally by: Mankirks Wife You know, I must be the only person on the planet who never had any issues with Window ME. You are not alone! I got a lot of use out of my copies of ME over the years and I have to say with no noticeable increase in problems compared to 98SE. The copy I had was an OEM copy which I was very happy with. Still, it would be silly to recommend it these days, it is obsolete afterall. I wish I could say the same. I think I was running mine on a 486 that came with it and the damn thing would lock up just playing solitare. That was truly the worst system I ever had.
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.09.05 15:41:00 - [32] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Stormwind Bloodfeather I'm still stumbling my way through Ubunto but tbh I am liking it more and more each day. You might want to step to a duel boot system as a transition. I have a friend who switched to Ubuntu and loves it. I just can't find the motivation to switch, as XP does everything I want to do just fine. I tried putting in on a VM, but I have yet to find a use for it. I wouldn't be considering changing, either, but I have a machine with a blank HD (two actually), and I'd like to get them running. $200 at Best Buy for an XP Home. No thanks. Even if I could get it cheaper from Tiger Direct, I'm about fed up. The further I can get away from Microsoft, the better off I'll be, I think. Same for Google, and SOE, and WallMart, and McD's, and Starbucks, and ... Originally by: CCP Greyscale consciously deciding not to join a corp is pretty much deciding that you don't want to have fun
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.09.05 16:23:00 - [33] Windows 2000! I have that running a copy of EVE on my P2 400 (Kids, do not try this at home) _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
jason hill Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.05 18:39:00 - [34] ruze contact me ingame if you wanna legit License of xp pro .... i got some thing that may be of interest to you :0) destroy everything you touch
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.06 05:32:00 - [35] Originally by: Pwett Windows 2000! I have that running a copy of EVE on my P2 400 (Kids, do not try this at home) If I still had my P2 400, which ran 2000 like a charm, I'd do it. As far as security for Ubuntu: It comes with a firewall you can install, but at last count that I read, the number of active Linux viri in the wild was measured in the hundreds. For Windows it's in the hundreds of thousands and growing daily. So a firewall is purely optional. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
BlackMail Caldari Eve Defence Force	Posted - 2008.09.06 13:58:00 - [36] Originally by: Irvin Well i'll not be installing Vista on another pc in the near future! Looks nice but it's the biggest pile of ****. Nails resources and won't play my second favorate game... IL2 Sturmovik Does linux support 4 gig ram etc? I've never really given much thought to using these os's but i think i'll have to eventually with MS going the way it is IL2 works fine with Vista I have been flying it since i started using Vista back in the beta days so might want to check again cause there are no problems with running IL2 with Vista --------------------------------------- Blackmail Eve Defence Force All Around Good Guy
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.09.06 22:21:00 - [37] Alright guys, still needing help ... I tried Ubunto 8.04.1 first. When I began installing the 'homemade' disk, it ran just fine, but eventually would freeze. The first freeze happened upon loading the 'GRUB' bit, and it froze pretty regularly before even getting close to that. When I say freeze, by the way, I mean the good old 'mouse-stuck-nothing-moving-only-pressing-power-button-will-help' frozen. So, I took this laptop in to the Geek Squad to have them check out the hardware. $70 later, and my Sony Vaio PCG-9P1L comes back with a clean bill of health. So, I try a different install disk, Ubunto 8.04.1 alternate. Installs just fine, I get to desktop, and within two minutes, it's frozen. I do different things each time, changing clock settings, accessing the internet, accessing the file system. Still freezes. So, after another wipe, I run Kubunto. This works. Problem now is, I really liked the Ubunto interface! I ain't literate any more. Computer tech done gone and passed me by. If you guys got any fancy ideas that don't involve me learning DOS again, I'd appreciate it. Originally by: CCP Greyscale consciously deciding not to join a corp is pretty much deciding that you don't want to have fun
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.09.07 14:00:00 - [38] Anyone? Xubuntu is freezing up as well, and I'm running 6.03 Dapper whatever now. Originally by: CCP Greyscale consciously deciding not to join a corp is pretty much deciding that you don't want to have fun
Norwood Franskly Minmatar Fleet of the Damned Dark Trinity Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.08 04:12:00 - [39] I've not used Ubuntu, it has a few pet peeves about it I like to avoid, so I can't give you help on that specifically but I have used Linux for a number of years, freezing on boot could be caused by a number of reasons, try passing some different arguments to the kernel via grub, heres some instructions on doing that if your not sure how (http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2007/05/ubuntu-how-to-edit-grub-boot-parameters.html) parameters to try would be: acpi=off pci=nopci acpi=noirq pci=noacpi Try entering those parameters those 1 at a time (eg try 1 if it freezes restart try with next parameter) and see if they help with the freezing. I've found acpi is often a candiate for freezes, it's the advanced power management interface, controls stuff like suspend and hibernate etc disabling it often helps avert potential freezes. If that doesn't help try asking on irc or the Ubuntu forums, theres a lot of people out there willing to help. As far as desktop interfaces go in Linux the desktop is a completely separate thing from the underlying operating system, if you liked the look of the GNOME desktop environment from Ubuntu you can install it in Kubuntu and when you log in you will be able to choose between GNOME or KDE (Kubuntu's default environment). You can even install XFCE if you want to check that desktop environment out, my advice, especially if you are new to Linux is to spend a bit of time with both until you find which one you like. Theres a lot of debate in the Linux world about which desktop environment is better but then us Linux people like to ague over a lot of stuff like which distribution is best, which programming language and even which text editor is best (emacs ftw imo ). It's all part of the fun about the huge amount of choice open source software gives you. It can make it confusing for new comers but just remember the choices are all about personal taste. Dive in and experiment till you find stuff that suits you. For some personal recommendations program wise heres what i commonly use on my Linux system: Firefox: Web browser Songbird: Audio player VLC: Video and DVD player Xchat: irc client Open Office: Word processing and Spreadsheet and of course the Eve Online Linux Client Hope that helps you.
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.09.08 05:14:00 - [40] Originally by: Norwood Franskly Awesome info Well, I'm testing the ACPI right now. I'm currently using Xubunto 6.06.1, 'Dapper Drake'. All and well it's pretty confusing. The parts I like are mostly ascetic. For example, I like how it uses firefox. I prefer a couple sets of freeware programs, personally, including firefox, open office, Winamp (music, video player), Trillian (for IRC and IM's), Thunderbird. Some things that bother me are the fact that I don't know how to install a program. That's annoying. I haven't figured out my system specs (in windows I can use system and device manager ... what's the equivilent in linux???). I'd like to know my processor type, video card, etc, as it is a laptop and highly annoying. I like this interface, though. Ubuntu and Xubuntu seem to have the same style, though I think one interface is named 'Gnome' and one is named 'Xfe'. It includes the top, Mac-like bar with the pull-down menus's for applications and such (for those who don't know, it's like having your 'start' button at the top of the screen), and on the bottom is the tabs for each page/program you have open. Hasn't frozen yet. Yeah, I need to get 'wine', as well as open office. If I can find out why Ubuntu didn't work, I might go back to it. It'll just have to see. Originally by: CCP Greyscale consciously deciding not to join a corp is pretty much deciding that you don't want to have fun

Norwood Franskly Minmatar Fleet of the Damned Dark Trinity Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.08 07:16:00 - [41] Originally by: Ruze Well, I'm testing the ACPI right now. I'm currently using Xubunto 6.06.1, 'Dapper Drake'. All and well it's pretty confusing. The parts I like are mostly ascetic. For example, I like how it uses firefox. I prefer a couple sets of freeware programs, personally, including firefox, open office, Winamp (music, video player), Trillian (for IRC and IM's), Thunderbird. Some things that bother me are the fact that I don't know how to install a program. That's annoying. I haven't figured out my system specs (in windows I can use system and device manager ... what's the equivilent in linux???). I'd like to know my processor type, video card, etc, as it is a laptop and highly annoying. I like this interface, though. Ubuntu and Xubuntu seem to have the same style, though I think one interface is named 'Gnome' and one is named 'Xfe'. It includes the top, Mac-like bar with the pull-down menus's for applications and such (for those who don't know, it's like having your 'start' button at the top of the screen), and on the bottom is the tabs for each page/program you have open. Hasn't frozen yet. Yeah, I need to get 'wine', as well as open office. If I can find out why Ubuntu didn't work, I might go back to it. It'll just have to see. To install software in linux you use the package manager. a quick google finds this site: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware Synaptic is what your looking for, theres hundreds of thousands of programs available, including wine and open office, just fire it up and search for the name of the software you want to install. For device manager there should be a GUI type thing in the start menu, look for a submenu called system or similar. Otherwise there are some commands you can use. "sudo lspci -v" without quotes will list everything connected to pci bus it's output will be a whole lot of devices grouped look like this Quote: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7600 GT] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: LeadTek Research Inc. Unknown device 2089 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 20 Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at c0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at d1000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] I/O ports at a000 [size=128] [virtual] Expansion ROM at d2000000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [68] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00 Kernel driver in use: nvidia Kernel modules: nvidia, nvidiafb this is the last device it found, in this case my video card. "sudo cat /proc/cpuinfo" will get cpu stuff "sudo cat /proc/meminfo" will get memory stuff don't be afraid to poke around and play with stuff on your start bar I'm not familiar enough to know what gui tools come pre-installed on Ubuntu but all that command line stuff will work. Linux is designed to be used without any desktop interaction at all, the gui's are really the icing on the cake usually it's quicker just to bash out a terminal command to get stuff to happen, I usually have about 4 or 5 terminals open and minimized, you get used to it pretty quickly. you can type in "man" (short for manual to get info on any of the commands I used eg "man lspci" will tell you more about the lspci command).

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