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Deathwing Reborn
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Posted - 2012.03.25 23:42:00 -
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I watched most of the Eve TV stream and did not see anything. Was anything even said about drones, drone lands, and other things concerning screwing people over that make a living in EVE with all things drones?
There are alot of rumors flying around and I cant find anything to substantiate any of it.
Are there plans to: remove alloys and give 100% bounties? Rerandomize security statuses in drone regions? Or any other crazy game breaking changes to my way of life in Eve?
Any also, what is a rough timeline on when these things might happen. I dont need exact dates but some rumors say in this april patch which I doubt, others the Inferno expansion. People need some sort of stability to make decisions for the near future otherwise you are being like Obama and the US goverment and hindering investment due to not knowing what is going to happen.
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Etherimos
Winged Victory Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2012.03.25 23:46:00 -
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Yeah if would be nice if there were some definative information rather that the reams of speculation... |
Cindy Marco
Expanse Security
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Posted - 2012.03.25 23:47:00 -
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Deathwing Reborn wrote:I watched most of the Eve TV stream and did not see anything. Was anything even said about drones, drone lands, and other things concerning screwing people over that make a living in EVE with all things drones?
There are alot of rumors flying around and I cant find anything to substantiate any of it.
Are there plans to: remove alloys and give 100% bounties? Rerandomize security statuses in drone regions? Or any other crazy game breaking changes to my way of life in Eve?
Any also, what is a rough timeline on when these things might happen. I dont need exact dates but some rumors say in this april patch which I doubt, others the Inferno expansion. People need some sort of stability to make decisions for the near future otherwise you are being like Obama and the US goverment and hindering investment due to not knowing what is going to happen.
I personally don't expect to see drone drop changes to be in Inferno, or at least the first part.
They are trying to remove isk, and switching all the drones over to isk would add a ton of it. I have no doubt it will happen at some point, but who knows when. |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
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Posted - 2012.03.25 23:48:00 -
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It'll be a stealth change, and its a change, not a nerf. Drones regions, by the looks of it, are now going to be the same as all the other regions. If anything it's probably a buff to the area, and its certainly a much needed buff for miners.
There's a reason CCP don't announce this kind of stuff ahead of time.
Also, lol@comparing CCP to Obama. -áhttp://i.imgur.com/aWNfM.jpg |
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
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Posted - 2012.03.25 23:50:00 -
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Yes, Soundwave confirmed it here; no stealth about it. That would kinda mess with the people who live out there if one day they wake up and no more minerals for their production. It's not like Empire where you just pick up your stuffz and go live in a new system :)
http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve-online/interviews/inferno-part-one
Drones will be moved to bounties in Inferno. Maybe with a sprinkle of tags. |
Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
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Posted - 2012.03.25 23:50:00 -
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Someone asked about the rumor of drone npc's getting bounties and the CCP guy sounded like he was confirming it was happening, while not actually saying yes. The way he responded he repeated it several times in a 'sly' manner and i got the impression he wasn't allowed to say, but it is indeed coming "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.26 00:10:00 -
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It's still semi-stealth in that he didn't mention which part of inferno it will be done in. Could be the first 'pre-expansion,' the main expansion or one of numerous mini fixes that will come between said expansions and after the main. |
Deathwing Reborn
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Posted - 2012.03.26 00:13:00 -
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Well I know that it is probably coming, but there are other aspects that were not answered even in that interview with Soundwave. That was simply becasue the guy asking the questions didnt ask enough.
1. Ok, so if there are bounties what kind of items do the drones drop? 2. New Faction loot? (making our faction spawns worth more than 10k isk.total for the enitre spawn) 3. Security status randomization for drone regions? (This one ticks me off because I just got into a new .9+ system that could become a .3 system over night after all of our investments into the system) 4. The leak of the SiSi patch notes had the drone bounties on them and they were far less in bounty than compared to other regions. "putting bounties on them will be the same across the board". it wont be if you still screw drone regions over by giving less bounties. 5. Officer drops? Goes along with Faction loot but drones right now get crap tech 1 drone stuff that isnt worth sqat. Is this going to be fixed?
There are plenty more instances of things that CCP needs to think about before arbitrarily making this change to drone regions. I know they have probably discussed and possibly have ideas but some informaiton would help. |
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
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Posted - 2012.03.26 01:39:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote: It's still semi-stealth in that he didn't mention which part of inferno it will be done in. Could be the first 'pre-expansion,' the main expansion or one of numerous mini fixes that will come between said expansions and after the main.
Only way it would be stealth when they tell people now, is if they didn't put it in the patch notes of the patch it goes in with.
We know it's there now. If it happen in Inferno 0.5, 1.0 or 1.5 doesn't make it stealth.
Once they know for sure which part of Inferno, I'm pretty sure they'll tell people in advance.
If they weren't planning on that, they would have never blurped it out now. |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.26 02:56:00 -
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maybe drone regions will drop bpcs for special drones, augmented fighter drones or something maybe drone ships as well, such as the drone dominix. |
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N3oXr2ii
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.03.26 03:07:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:maybe drone regions will drop bpcs for special drones, augmented fighter drones or something maybe drone ships as well, such as the drone dominix.
we want drone domi's pls -áplease don't take out your real life issues out on me not my fault if your fat ugly bullied divorced broke or-á have a pimple thats big and red maybe your mom wants you out her basement or a jock has gave you a wedgie your flames only make me laff at your sadness your hidden tears are as juicy as the whiners i blob or the blobs i hide-áfrom |
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2012.03.26 03:16:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote: It's still semi-stealth in that he didn't mention which part of inferno it will be done in. Could be the first 'pre-expansion,' the main expansion or one of numerous mini fixes that will come between said expansions and after the main.
If you watched the EVE keynote on Saturday, one of the slides is what is happening in the "Escalation", which is the pre-patch to Crucible on April 24th. On that slide it says something to the effect of "drone region iteration" (also incursions will be iterated on that date).
So it will probably happen in the pre-expansion as it's mostly just database record changes (changing the drop tables and adding bounties to the rats). |
Deathwing Reborn
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Posted - 2012.03.26 03:50:00 -
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Scrapyard Bob wrote:Aiden Andraste wrote: It's still semi-stealth in that he didn't mention which part of inferno it will be done in. Could be the first 'pre-expansion,' the main expansion or one of numerous mini fixes that will come between said expansions and after the main.
If you watched the EVE keynote on Saturday, one of the slides is what is happening in the "Escalation", which is the pre-patch to Crucible on April 24th. On that slide it says something to the effect of "drone region iteration" (also incursions will be iterated on that date). So it will probably happen in the pre-expansion as it's mostly just database record changes (changing the drop tables and adding bounties to the rats).
i watched all the keynotes and I dont remember seeing that.
Hopefully in the morning we can get some CCP comment on this if that is the case though. |
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2012.03.26 12:55:00 -
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Deathwing Reborn wrote: i watched all the keynotes and I dont remember seeing that.
Hopefully in the morning we can get some CCP comment on this if that is the case though.
JON LANDER portion of the keynote (starts at around 1:33:00, slide is at 1:40:00 or so) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh5kOgYJ9s0
A pre-cursor patch to Inferno -Incursion iterations -Rogue Drone Iteration -Ship Balancing
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Deathwing Reborn
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:27:00 -
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So, We still sit with the same limited information that we had for a while now. Will any Dev please comment on who the drone lands changes is assigned to or who is working on them? Because the only information I have been able to gather is
Yes, drones will get bounties (soundwave interview This will happen in April patch (Fanfest Keynote
The things we are still missing are
Will drones have the same bounty structure as other factions What loot drops will drones now have Will sentient drones be buffed with new faction gear that is actually worth something Will there be drone officers Will there be drone haulers Will there be a re-randomization of security status in drone lands Will there be a change in the number of horde sites per system by security status Will this really happen in April patch? (because you all don't seem to have a clue as to what you are going to do yet.... Does anyone at CCP realize the scope of the change you are making before you just change to bounties and ignore all of the above Will you continue with your stance of drone regions should be the worst place in null sec and nerf us into the ground again? (We will find a way to profit with whatever you decide to change
I am sure there are still things that I missed here but just getting these questions answered would be a great help, or at least know there is a living breathing Dev working on this and not just someone throwing code in to change to bounties and screw everything else. |
Deathwing Reborn
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:29:00 -
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And for those who might wonder why I dont have "?" and ")" it is because the forums in its infinite wisdom thought they were HTLM code and got rid of them for me. |
Deathwing Reborn
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:31:00 -
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Bump to keep the hope alive that the CCP Dev in charge of this "feature" hasn't drowned in Goon tears. |
Deathwing Reborn
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Posted - 2012.04.05 13:09:00 -
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Deathwing Reborn wrote:So, We still sit with the same limited information that we had for a while now. Will any Dev please comment on who the drone lands changes is assigned to or who is working on them? Because the only information I have been able to gather is
Yes, drones will get bounties (soundwave interview This will happen in April patch (Fanfest Keynote
The things we are still missing are
Will drones have the same bounty structure as other factions What loot drops will drones now have Will sentient drones be buffed with new faction gear that is actually worth something Will there be drone officers Will there be drone haulers Will there be a re-randomization of security status in drone lands Will there be a change in the number of horde sites per system by security status Will this really happen in April patch? (because you all don't seem to have a clue as to what you are going to do yet.... Does anyone at CCP realize the scope of the change you are making before you just change to bounties and ignore all of the above Will you continue with your stance of drone regions should be the worst place in null sec and nerf us into the ground again? (We will find a way to profit with whatever you decide to change
I am sure there are still things that I missed here but just getting these questions answered would be a great help, or at least know there is a living breathing Dev working on this and not just someone throwing code in to change to bounties and screw everything else.
So CCP finally posted the drone changes for inferno and in them is the following.
"Bountiful Drone Rewards
Alloys have been removed from the rogue drones, and bounties have been added to them to bring them in line with other faction mobs. Players no longer have to gather a cargo hold full of alloys to make rogue drone hunting lucrative."
Yet no Dev is willing to come out and mention any of the above issues with these changes. What the hell CCP, are you just going to ignore the fact that giving drone regions straight bounties and ignore the rest is a horible idea? Or do you already have the answers to these questions you just choose to say SCREW YOU drone regions again and give us another stealth nerf?
The last time the only information you gave us was "We are buffing all Sanctums isk output to bring them in line with all of the others except one." Then Patch day comes and oh look Hordes have been nerfed all to hell. Give us some information already and stop screwing with the drone regions without thinking things through first. |
gfldex
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Posted - 2012.04.05 13:37:00 -
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Deathwing Reborn wrote:Yet no Dev is willing to come out
There will be a dev blog.
And in 2012 the whining became ENDLESS. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.04.05 14:23:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/en/inferno/features/
FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.05 14:34:00 -
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gfldex wrote:Deathwing Reborn wrote:Yet no Dev is willing to come out There will be a dev blog.
There will indeed be one soon (really soon, not soon(tm) ).
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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Deathwing Reborn
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Posted - 2012.04.05 15:19:00 -
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CCP Spitfire wrote:gfldex wrote:Deathwing Reborn wrote:Yet no Dev is willing to come out There will be a dev blog. There will indeed be one soon (really soon, not soon(tm) ).
Thanks Spitfire,
So does CCP have the answers to these questions and they are waiting to put them out in a Dev Blog then or are they still under development and might not even make it into this patch? We have roughly a little over two weeks to the patch and there are some large issues still lingering that we have heard nothing about yet but speculation. I just dont want to see another "here are the real changes" after the patch has already gone live and none of the ramifications were concidered for things left out.
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Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
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Posted - 2012.04.05 15:36:00 -
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[quote=Deathwing Reborn 1. Ok, so if there are bounties what kind of items do the drones drop? [/quote All kind of drone-stuff maybe? Drone Links, Drones, Drone Nav, Omnis. Maybe we will see some Meta 1-4 stuff [quote=Deathwing Reborn 2. New Faction loot? (making our faction spawns worth more than 10k isk.total for the enitre spawn) [/quote Meta 6-12 drone stuff? "Mother drone a/b/c-type Drone Link" anyone :) [quote=Deathwing Reborn 3. Security status randomization for drone regions? (This one ticks me off because I just got into a new .9+ system that could become a .3 system over night after all of our investments into the system [/quote Why should they do this [quote=Deathwing Reborn 4. The leak of the SiSi patch notes had the drone bounties on them and they were far less in bounty than compared to other regions. "putting bounties on them will be the same across the board". it wont be if you still screw drone regions over by giving less bounties. [/quote Link? Do they have a fix BASE-value which is factored by the true-sec maybe [quote=Deathwing Reborn 5. Officer drops? Goes along with Faction loot but drones right now get crap tech 1 drone stuff that isnt worth sqat. Is this going to be fixed [/quote Why not? Drone Officer l Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2012.04.05 15:44:00 -
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This information is important so the botters can tune their scripts accordingly..... |
Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
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Posted - 2012.04.05 15:52:00 -
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Hello Zydrin prices at 2600 a unit.
I laugh at all the fools selling already Large volumes of highly researched Ammo, drones, charges and ship bpo's. Biggest BPO store in EVE! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=445524#post445524 |
Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:03:00 -
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Deathwing Reborn wrote: 4. The leak of the SiSi patch notes had the drone bounties on them and they were far less in bounty than compared to other regions. "putting bounties on them will be the same across the board". it wont be if you still screw drone regions over by giving less bounties.
Unless they're smart and the new drone bounties are actually an indication of new bounties across the board... |
Deathwing Reborn
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:05:00 -
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Jojo Jackson wrote:Deathwing Reborn wrote: 3. Security status randomization for drone regions? (This one ticks me off because I just got into a new .9+ system that could become a .3 system over night after all of our investments into the system
Why should they do this
I dont think they should. But this is one of the rumors that supposeldly they will "have" to do in order for bounties to go in. Too much "leaked" info that is only rumor and unsubstantiated. Too much player base saying this would be nice and not enough CCP saying this is what we are thinking about doing.
There has been a thread in the Russion forum section started by Spitfire if I remember correctly that hasnt seen any updates in months. I am not Russian and I live in drone lands yet the only forum topic I have seen any discussion in is the Russion speaking forums. Of which I would say at least 70% of the posts were in English.
I just believe that this is going to be another CCP itteration of screw the people living in drone lands, those regions should be the worst places to live in the game and every time you find a way to overcome the disadvantages we impose on you we will just nerf bat them into the ground. Oh and we will do it with as little patch note information as we can so you cant complain to us about it before a patch is deployed and we can just ignore you afterwards. |
Deathwing Reborn
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:06:00 -
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Esan Vartesa wrote:Deathwing Reborn wrote: 4. The leak of the SiSi patch notes had the drone bounties on them and they were far less in bounty than compared to other regions. "putting bounties on them will be the same across the board". it wont be if you still screw drone regions over by giving less bounties.
Unless they're smart and the new drone bounties are actually an indication of new bounties across the board...
If thats the case more power to them. As long as it is the same across the board. Like I said already it's the simple fact of no information on a major change in a patch that is two weeks away. |
Deathwing Reborn
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Posted - 2012.04.10 18:58:00 -
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CCP Spitfire wrote:gfldex wrote:Deathwing Reborn wrote:Yet no Dev is willing to come out There will be a dev blog. There will indeed be one soon (really soon, not soon(tm) ).
Sir Spitfire, a big thank you to the people that have posted the dev blog about the drone changes in which we have gotten absolutely no more information than we have had before. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy that you all take the time to make this splended content for the drone regions and put no thought process into it other than get rid of alloys and give them bounties.
Very few questions that were bought up in this thread as well as many others were not answered and simply ignored. |
Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.10 19:51:00 -
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Is it all drones, even rogue drones in missions in highsec or just 0.0 ones? Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you. |
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