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Voith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
37
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:14:00 -
[1771] - Quote
Ceptia Cyna wrote:Voith wrote:Ceptia Cyna wrote:He's a lawyer in real life right? Just send the stuff to his bar association and his law firm which should be easily done with his full name. I guess they love to see the VOD of the incident, too. You know this whole responsiblity stuff when you get your admission as attorney might proof to be a bit problematic and the new laws against cybermobbing in the U.S., oh dear boy. Now this idea sounds fun don't you think? Cyber bullying usually only protects people under the age of 18. Past that you're expected to suck it up and move on. No it doesn't. Search for: Ravi & Tyler Clementi Also this involved a hatecrime due to harresment of sexuality it does somehow stand out. New Jersey even changed the law with regards to bullying! Key word: Hate Crime
"Just lost internet space ship" isn't a "protected class" in America. |
Headerman
Quovis CORE Alliance
730
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:14:00 -
[1772] - Quote
Darius III wrote:Resigning as chair really is an empty gesture and shouldnt be taken as a sign of contrition.
It is similar in some ways to what Helcity did when Incarnia was released, threatened harm to a CCP employee.
Stuff like this (mass sending of email to someone to kill themself) can have consequences just as real too.
CCP should be totally impartial about this and let due process take its course. The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
589
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:15:00 -
[1773] - Quote
Ceptia Cyna wrote:Voith wrote:Ceptia Cyna wrote:He's a lawyer in real life right? Just send the stuff to his bar association and his law firm which should be easily done with his full name. I guess they love to see the VOD of the incident, too. You know this whole responsiblity stuff when you get your admission as attorney might proof to be a bit problematic and the new laws against cybermobbing in the U.S., oh dear boy. Now this idea sounds fun don't you think? Cyber bullying usually only protects people under the age of 18. Past that you're expected to suck it up and move on. No it doesn't. Search for: Ravi & Tyler Clementi Also this involved a hatecrime due to harresment of sexuality it does somehow stand out. New Jersey even changed the law with regards to bullying! You are using public available information to harass someone and that is bannable. I've already reported you and I hope you get permabanned from this game.
The Wis is still The Wis and we have no idea who he is but it does not qualify anywhere close to what you are advocating. |
Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
124
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:15:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:I'm not sure that sending thousands of tear stained rage EVE mails to CCP is the answer. We might want to restrict it to the ones that don't joke about it in the following sentence.
I mean as a matter of permanent policy. The people who are joking about it are highlighting the farce that is threatening to kill yourself over a video game.
If we are really genuinely concerned about people with suicidal tendencies harming themselves over Eve, then they should be reported to the relevant authorities and banned from the game that is apparently causing them such anguish. |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
545
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:15:00 -
[1775] - Quote
https://t.co/qvl5APgI
Mittens posted his apology here. |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
416
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:15:00 -
[1776] - Quote
Darronis Olachenko wrote:Ceptia Cyna wrote:He's a lawyer in real life right? Just send the stuff to his bar association and his law firm which should be easily done with his full name. I guess they love to see the VOD of the incident, too. You know this whole responsiblity stuff when you get your admission as attorney might proof to be a bit problematic and the new laws against cybermobbing in the U.S., oh dear boy. Now this idea sounds fun don't you think? Because this isn't hypocrisy. Not at all.
No... this is reporting to a legitamate authority
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
Headerman
Quovis CORE Alliance
730
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:16:00 -
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Li Malak wrote:~10,058~ Deal with it.
The voters have spoken, and they love The Mittani.
The Mittani has spoken, and he hates The Voters. The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |
Darronis Olachenko
15
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:16:00 -
[1778] - Quote
Li Malak wrote:~10,058~ Deal with it.
One-sixth of the voters and their alts have spoken, and they love The Mittani.
ftfy |
Sticky Hamster
Nova-Tek
6
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:17:00 -
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"I'm not sure why you are defending a manchild who got divorced over his addiction to Eve Online through the usage of his 22 accounts. That idiot brought up that he might off himself. Mittani never solicited him to do it in the first place. You're acting that using suicide to get their way is a perfectly acceptable method when it's not. ALl I see here are crybabies looking for an excuse, anything, to get the goons banned from the game. I've scammed at least 80 miners during the mining interdiction and at least 4 of them have threatened to kill themselves if I don't give back their isk. It's not my damn problem that they are willing to try and use it as a bargaining chip. If anything, threatening suicide in this game should be an instant permaban. "
There are drama queens online constantly throwing that threat that they will kill themself around in MMO's.
It has been going on all the way back to DikuMuds on the Telnet many years ago.
Scenario:
You (the playerkiller) kill their character.
They convo you and drop a variation of the phrase, "I'm thinking of killing myself."
THE PERSON THREATENING THIS IS A CLASSIC GRIEFER TRYING TO BAIT YOU INTO GETTING YOURSELF INTO TROUBLE, they are simply trying to get you to violate ingame policy since you defeated them.
Your best reaction at this time is to report them to whatever authority the game has to cover your own backside.
Then you should deny the attention ***** what they want most. Attention. Add them to ignore or block them or whatever you do in the game to never read one more character of text that character ever attempts to send to you.
Time will go on and eventually the griefer player will get bored with the game and go be a griefer in another game.
Sticky Hamster
p.s. I STRONGLY agree that if a player threatens suicide the ingame authorities immediately permaban the account. Furthermore I would recommend the game company notify local law enforcement that the person threatened to commit suicide to protect themself from any legal blowback in case the person actually attempts and/or succeeds at suicide. |
Shade Severii
Satan's Escorts MIDGET CHUCKERS
8
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:17:00 -
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I love how people think it is morally wrong to bully someone's internet character (I think it is)
BUT they have no moral problem trying to get someone fired from there REAL LIFE job for bullying someones INTERNET CHARACTER
jesus christ |
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ed jeni
SKULLDOGS RED.OverLord
11
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:17:00 -
[1781] - Quote
if mittani resigns then i am assuming all his felching goonie cohorts that were backing him 100% will likewise apologize for worshiping a false idol.
whats that, your all still supporting him ? troll lol loll |
Headerman
Quovis CORE Alliance
731
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:18:00 -
[1782] - Quote
EnderCapitalG wrote:https://t.co/qvl5APgI
Mittens posted his apology here.
Reminds me of a situation i read recently, where at a work function, a boss was so drunk, he hugged his PA at the end of the night and said to her he would like to **** her.
Being drunk is NOT an excuse The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |
Javajunky
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:18:00 -
[1783] - Quote
In the words of Dennis Leary - Life Sucks wear a helmet.
Human beings make me sick, everyone is such a p*ssy, I generally can't stand people anymore. Boo hoo... I got scammed in eve and therefore my life sucks. Christ you knowing played a game this is literally about griefing other people...
What this planet needs - Dariwin Theory of Evolution re-introduced for the human race....
If the guy is dead .... can I haz his stuffz? |
Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
96
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:18:00 -
[1784] - Quote
Darius III wrote:Resigning as chair really is an empty gesture and shouldnt be taken as a sign of contrition. Sorry Darius but statements like this aren't adequate from a CSM member atm ;). It's not the topic to catch personal profit.
Sueziding is to ... real (?) ... and making jokes of it (from not comercial comedians) is not realy funny.
1) Mittens should open a topic with "Guys, I made a BIG mistake" which should be locked and pined by CCP.
2) CCP should discuss it INTERNAL (but tell us they do it)
3) CSM should discuss it INTERNAL (but tell us they do it)
4) CCP and CSM should discuss it together (but tell us they do it)
5) make results public
.. ... ....
10) time to use it for profit or not ;) Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship! |
Voith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
38
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:18:00 -
[1785] - Quote
Shade Severii wrote:I love how people think it is morally wrong to bully someone's internet character (I think it is)
BUT they have no moral problem trying to get someone fired from there REAL LIFE job for bullying someones INTERNET CHARACTER
jesus christ Because this has **** all to do with Bullying and everything to do with CSM rejects and Titan pilots smelling blood in the water. |
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
284
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:19:00 -
[1786] - Quote
Lt Pizi wrote:Vincent VanDamme wrote:EnderCapitalG wrote:http://twitter.com/#!/Themittani
Just landed. Step one, apologize profusely. Step two, resign. Step three, send all my isk to the victim. Entirely my fault and unacceptable.
Sadly, due to my failings, I was so drunk at the time that I didn't remember what I said until I saw this article. Shameful.
However, being drunk was no excuse - I got myself there, after all. I dont know if this is troll or truth. If its troll, then :p If it is true then i have to say one thing: Alexander Gianturco: this shows class. Utter class. I don't think this is something you would need to resign for, but the willingness to make amends is classy as all hell. I hope you reconsider. But if you don't, i hope you take this message in the spirit it's sent. A class act. i dont have the english phrase but in german we would say unter den blinden ist der einaugige k+Śnig
In the kingdom of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
I used to be ambivalent to the Mittani's attitude and antics before this, now I'd rather not havie someone who is so incapable of consideration for others when grandstanding to an audience as my representative.
WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
Avila Cracko
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
207
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:19:00 -
[1787] - Quote
Once again, I will only say this, presidents and ministers of real life countries resigned for smaller things. |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
591
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:19:00 -
[1788] - Quote
Sticky Hamster wrote:"I'm not sure why you are defending a manchild who got divorced over his addiction to Eve Online through the usage of his 22 accounts. That idiot brought up that he might off himself. Mittani never solicited him to do it in the first place. You're acting that using suicide to get their way is a perfectly acceptable method when it's not. ALl I see here are crybabies looking for an excuse, anything, to get the goons banned from the game. I've scammed at least 80 miners during the mining interdiction and at least 4 of them have threatened to kill themselves if I don't give back their isk. It's not my damn problem that they are willing to try and use it as a bargaining chip. If anything, threatening suicide in this game should be an instant permaban. "
There are drama queens online constantly throwing that threat that they will kill themself around in MMO's.
It has been going on all the way back to DikuMuds on the Telnet many years ago.
Scenario:
You (the playerkiller) kill their character.
They convo you and drop a variation of the phrase, "I'm thinking of killing myself."
THE PERSON THREATENING THIS IS A CLASSIC GRIEFER TRYING TO BAIT YOU INTO GETTING YOURSELF INTO TROUBLE, they are simply trying to get you to violate ingame policy since you defeated them.
Your best reaction at this time is to report them to whatever authority the game has to cover your own backside.
Then you should deny the attention ***** what they want most. Attention. Add them to ignore or block them or whatever you do in the game to never read one more character of text that character ever attempts to send to you.
Time will go on and eventually the griefer player will get bored with the game and go be a griefer in another game.
Or I can just ignore them and move on. I'm not responsible for getting them help. |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
551
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:19:00 -
[1789] - Quote
Headerman wrote:EnderCapitalG wrote:https://t.co/qvl5APgI
Mittens posted his apology here. Reminds me of a situation i read recently, where at a work function, a boss was so drunk, he hugged his PA at the end of the night and said to her he would like to **** her. Being drunk is NOT an excuse
He admits that it's not an excuse, hence the public apology plus other actions he intends to perform. |
Li Malak
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:20:00 -
[1790] - Quote
Headerman wrote:Li Malak wrote:~10,058~ Deal with it.
The voters have spoken, and they love The Mittani. The Mittani has spoken, and he hates The Voters.
Everyone hates the voters. |
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Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
416
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:20:00 -
[1791] - Quote
People must realise actions in this supposed 'fantasy' space still carry the same consequnces as RL
If this had happened in a school between the football team and the computer club the same things would apply..
Why should we NOT report to the authorities
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
Voith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
38
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:20:00 -
[1792] - Quote
Avila Cracko wrote:Once again, I will only say this, presidents and ministers of real life countries resigned for smaller things. CSM: More Serious than people who actually have armies and can ******* KILL THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE |
Twulf
The Konvergent League Sanctuary Pact
24
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:21:00 -
[1793] - Quote
A VPN masks your IP.
https://www.privatetunnel.com/
Look what the second ******* link on google is.[/quote]
Lol, We know not to believe everything we read on the internet and on marketing correct? I guess not.
Norton Anti Virus also claims to stop virus, spyware and spam email.
You can mask your IP but using VPN to do so is not even close to the best or smartest option. An expert wanting to track an email would have no issues doing so if you used VPN to mask your traffic. You act like hackers smarter then both of us don't get caught all the time and they mask their IPs via BOT NETs.
Please stop this nonsense. You clearly do not know what your talking about.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1262
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:21:00 -
[1794] - Quote
Darth Tickles wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:I'm not sure that sending thousands of tear stained rage EVE mails to CCP is the answer. We might want to restrict it to the ones that don't joke about it in the following sentence. I mean as a matter of permanent policy. The people who are joking about it are highlighting the farce that is threatening to kill yourself over a video game. If we are really genuinely concerned about people with suicidal tendencies harming themselves over Eve, then they should be reported to the relevant authorities and banned from the game that is apparently causing them such anguish.
I fully agree. As long as we are clear that your point really doesn't pertain to this particular situation.
As a general rule though, yes. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Voith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
38
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:21:00 -
[1795] - Quote
Professor Alphane wrote:People must realise actions in this supposed 'fantasy' space still carry the same consequnces as RL
If this had happened in a school between the football team and the computer club the same things would apply..
Why should we NOT report to the authorities If you post in this thread again I will consider it harassment and report you to the authorities. Including but not limited to: Your family Your neighborhood Your employer Your local law enforcement |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
416
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:22:00 -
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Voith wrote:Shade Severii wrote:I love how people think it is morally wrong to bully someone's internet character (I think it is)
BUT they have no moral problem trying to get someone fired from there REAL LIFE job for bullying someones INTERNET CHARACTER
jesus christ Because this has **** all to do with Bullying and everything to do with CSM rejects and Titan pilots smelling blood in the water.
I'm a carebear through and through mate
LIFE is more important than your DAMNED PEW PEW
GET IT
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
Astro Jones
AJ Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:22:00 -
[1797] - Quote
Most real corporations have zero tolerance for this sort of bad publicity, It will be interesting to see what happens. But then again when they actively promote grief you should expect this sort of stuff. Personally i feel it went way way to far, you do not ever encourage someone to do something like that. Most of us are adults and know better. EVE has potential but they need to learn that catering to degenerate behaviour is detrimental to being in business. For every hard core pyp'er out there, there is at least 10 people that do not care for that type of game play. In the end, I think EVE has to share part of the blame. |
Valearx
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
63
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:22:00 -
[1798] - Quote
Confirming that internet spaceships are in fact incredibly ******* serious and the next time I lose several pixellated harvesters mindlessly drilling ice in high sec, I should express my suicidal tendencies because this world is just not worth living in...
EDIT: ************ what is it with these eve-o snipes |
Ssakaa
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
13
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:22:00 -
[1799] - Quote
Evei Shard wrote:
...Someone with the right media connections could pretty much gank CCP.
They could at that. This story has legs enough. Like them or loathe them, The Guardian dead tree press, for example (Brit left-of-centre cause-championing newspaper, as linked to previously in this thread) would jump on this like you wouldn't believe. I certainly wouldn't want Polly Toynbee on my case -the sanctimony would be unbearable. In perpetuity.
However, Mittani has made his apology, let's see how much this will ameliorate things. Don't hold the front page.
Murientor tribal witch. Now with hair extensions. |
Amity Lane
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:23:00 -
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It is interesting how quickly Mittani's support in this thread has gone from "he did nothing wrong, suck it up losers" to "here's his sincere apology, please take it at face value".
Not expressing support of one side of the other. Just pointing out how fickle it appears is all. |
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