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Kallynda Nai
Tightpants Inc
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:32:00 -
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Anya Klibor wrote:KanashiiKami wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:KanashiiKami wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote: You've been calling for a perma ban when you'd never even seen the clip or knew what he said? Congratulations, you're more of an autistic sperflord than I took you for.
SO? ... so what if i am autistic ... or i dont have queens english ... or i cant construct sentences? but im pretty sure i know what "PERMA ban for mittani" means You really should stop posting. the mittani openly asked players to try and get to this fella to "complete" his suicide if someone DID succumb to his suggestion, what will happen? i am only asking for a BAN in GAME for this person if someone did succumb to my suggestion what will happen? since you are insistent on asking me to stop posting, i wonder... who will you like to see succeed in the above ... For one, he'd be in cuffs, charged with conspiracy to harass, general harassment, and inciting harassment, at the very least. I wouldn't be surprised if the DA attempted to go after him for Man 2, but that'd be a stretch.
This, except you're completely incorrect. |
Anya Klibor
Error-404
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:34:00 -
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Kallynda Nai wrote:
This, except you're completely incorrect.
I'd ask you to elaborate. but history shows you'd prefer to leave your opinion as broad as possible. Doesn't matter, really, because you'll still be hoisted by your own petard. |
Jan VanRijkdom
Jan VanRijkdom IInvestments
4
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:35:00 -
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Anya Klibor wrote:Jan VanRijkdom wrote:
Really? Give me a break.
Have fun proving anything in court. It would be thrown out. A waste of the courts time and public taxes.
Exhibit A: Youtube video. That would probably be more than enough to show his intent. After that, I call each and every person as a witness to prove he said it. You'd be surprised how easy it is to get a conspiracy charge pled out, mainly because many jurisdictions have the same penalty for conspirators as they do for the peron who commits the action.
If it's that easy then the legal system is even more sad and broken than EVE lol.
The thing is, if Im not mistaken, hasnt the 'victim' in this situation already decided not to push it? Or am I mistaken.
At this point it seems its just academic. Mmmm...beer... -áAnd no, I'm not actually Dutch. |
Kallynda Nai
Tightpants Inc
56
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:35:00 -
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Anya Klibor wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:
This, except you're completely incorrect.
I'd ask you to elaborate. but history shows you'd prefer to leave your opinion as broad as possible. Doesn't matter, really, because you'll still be hoisted by your own petard.
Kinky. Are you coming on to me? |
Savion Chastis
Golden Sail Enterprises
3
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:35:00 -
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KanashiiKami wrote:im not trying to troll or anyting but i am very amused at the amount of support mittani gets for what he did ... really LOL ...
What do you expect them to do? Turn on him? They are serving their purpose, it's not their problem a heapin' helpin' of clown shoes keep walking right into it and showing that they aren't any better. The real tragedy is that these threads are still going on.
Anyone with any real insight and understanding has pretty much spoke their mind and moved on. I'm just getting the lights and making sure we turned to crockpot off. Watching the goons have a field day with Salem's lot. |
KanashiiKami
37
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:39:00 -
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anyway, i did submit a petition to CCP requesting for full player BAN for ALEX.
if you think the same as me, that alex shud be BANNED. i think you should officially petition it too. WUT ??? |
Jan VanRijkdom
Jan VanRijkdom IInvestments
4
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:40:00 -
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Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:The Mittani wrote:You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything.
~10,058~ Oh my humble apologies for tarnishing your great reputation, Mittani the Great. I just hope that you think twice before asking thousands of other players to partake in an act to provoke a mentally unstable person to commit suicide.
Where is ANY proof that this 'mentally unstable' person was as he claimed? Can't anyone claim anything? Link to the MD diagnosis or I say it's just some emo kid being an emo kid.
Mmmm...beer... -áAnd no, I'm not actually Dutch. |
Jan VanRijkdom
Jan VanRijkdom IInvestments
4
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:40:00 -
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KanashiiKami wrote:anyway, i did submit a petition to CCP requesting for full player BAN for ALEX.
if you think the same as me, that alex shud be BANNED. i think you should officially petition it too.
I swear, someone gag this idiot. Mmmm...beer... -áAnd no, I'm not actually Dutch. |
Anya Klibor
Error-404
25
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:41:00 -
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Jan VanRijkdom wrote:Anya Klibor wrote:Jan VanRijkdom wrote:
Really? Give me a break.
Have fun proving anything in court. It would be thrown out. A waste of the courts time and public taxes.
Exhibit A: Youtube video. That would probably be more than enough to show his intent. After that, I call each and every person as a witness to prove he said it. You'd be surprised how easy it is to get a conspiracy charge pled out, mainly because many jurisdictions have the same penalty for conspirators as they do for the peron who commits the action. If it's that easy then the legal system is even more sad and broken than EVE lol. The thing is, if Im not mistaken, hasnt the 'victim' in this situation already decided not to push it? Or am I mistaken. At this point it seems its just academic.
In many instances, the victim doesn't get a say. In this, he might, but prosecutors can be weird sometimes. Especially during an election year. |
Jan VanRijkdom
Jan VanRijkdom IInvestments
4
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:41:00 -
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Savion Chastis wrote:KanashiiKami wrote:im not trying to troll or anyting but i am very amused at the amount of support mittani gets for what he did ... really LOL ... What do you expect them to do? Turn on him? They are serving their purpose, it's not their problem a heapin' helpin' of clown shoes keep walking right into it and showing that they aren't any better. The real tragedy is that these threads are still going on. Anyone with any real insight and understanding has pretty much spoke their mind and moved on. I'm just getting the lights and making sure we turned to crockpot off. Watching the goons have a field day with Salem's lot.
Unfortunately some people have lives/work, etc, and havent been able to be there for the whole things as it unfolded, hypocrite. Mmmm...beer... -áAnd no, I'm not actually Dutch. |
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KanashiiKami
37
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:42:00 -
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Savion Chastis wrote:KanashiiKami wrote:im not trying to troll or anyting but i am very amused at the amount of support mittani gets for what he did ... really LOL ... What do you expect them to do? Turn on him? They are serving their purpose, it's not their problem a heapin' helpin' of clown shoes keep walking right into it and showing that they aren't any better. The real tragedy is that these threads are still going on. Anyone with any real insight and understanding has pretty much spoke their mind and moved on. I'm just getting the lights and making sure we turned to crockpot off. Watching the goons have a field day with Salem's lot.
it is not a tragedy that the thread is going on and on ...
it IS a tragedy that some people are sweeping it under the worm hole and classifying it as a joke or something to that level. WUT ??? |
Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion
29
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:43:00 -
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Didn't Mittani send the dude like 11 billion isk or something? If I were the "offended" I'd post "successful troll is successful" on the eve forum and win ALL the internets forever. |
Jan VanRijkdom
Jan VanRijkdom IInvestments
4
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:43:00 -
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Anya Klibor wrote:Jan VanRijkdom wrote:Anya Klibor wrote:Jan VanRijkdom wrote:
Really? Give me a break.
Have fun proving anything in court. It would be thrown out. A waste of the courts time and public taxes.
Exhibit A: Youtube video. That would probably be more than enough to show his intent. After that, I call each and every person as a witness to prove he said it. You'd be surprised how easy it is to get a conspiracy charge pled out, mainly because many jurisdictions have the same penalty for conspirators as they do for the peron who commits the action. If it's that easy then the legal system is even more sad and broken than EVE lol. The thing is, if Im not mistaken, hasnt the 'victim' in this situation already decided not to push it? Or am I mistaken. At this point it seems its just academic. In many instances, the victim doesn't get a say. In this, he might, but prosecutors can be weird sometimes. Especially during an election year.
Im preeeetty sure the victim gets a say....especially the part where they decide to press charges or not.
Yep, really sure actually,
Mmmm...beer... -áAnd no, I'm not actually Dutch. |
Kallynda Nai
Tightpants Inc
57
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:43:00 -
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KanashiiKami wrote:anyway, i did submit a petition to CCP requesting for full player BAN for ALEX.
if you think the same as me, that alex shud be BANNED. i think you should officially petition it too.
Rerpoted for harassment.
BAM! Can you taste that ******* irony!? |
Jan VanRijkdom
Jan VanRijkdom IInvestments
4
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:43:00 -
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Hannott Thanos wrote:Didn't Mittani send the dude like 11 billion isk or something? If I were the "offended" I'd post "successful troll is successful" on the eve forum and win ALL the internets forever.
+1!
My thoughts exactly!!! Mmmm...beer... -áAnd no, I'm not actually Dutch. |
KanashiiKami
38
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:46:00 -
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Jan VanRijkdom wrote:KanashiiKami wrote:anyway, i did submit a petition to CCP requesting for full player BAN for ALEX.
if you think the same as me, that alex shud be BANNED. i think you should officially petition it too. I swear, someone gag this idiot.
so are you saying that mittani is right? about what he did at fanfest?
and that all the other 6 CSM should join him in his methodology of presentation? WUT ??? |
KanashiiKami
38
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:48:00 -
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Kallynda Nai wrote:KanashiiKami wrote:anyway, i did submit a petition to CCP requesting for full player BAN for ALEX.
if you think the same as me, that alex shud be BANNED. i think you should officially petition it too. Rerpoted for harassment. BAM! Can you taste that ******* irony!? pls explain my method of harrassment?
WUT ??? |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
378
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:48:00 -
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Jan VanRijkdom wrote:Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:The Mittani wrote:You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything.
~10,058~ Oh my humble apologies for tarnishing your great reputation, Mittani the Great. I just hope that you think twice before asking thousands of other players to partake in an act to provoke a mentally unstable person to commit suicide. Where is ANY proof that this 'mentally unstable' person was as he claimed? Can't anyone claim anything? Link to the MD diagnosis or I say it's just some emo kid being an emo kid.
he dosent have too. He was threatened with then end result of death.
His current or past mental stability actually dont have to come into play at all in this case. Nor does anyone's for that matter.
What was done is wrong irrespective of that.
Actually not knowing the mental state at all is more damning for anyone that would do what the mittani suggested.
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Kallynda Nai
Tightpants Inc
58
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:49:00 -
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KanashiiKami wrote:Jan VanRijkdom wrote:KanashiiKami wrote:anyway, i did submit a petition to CCP requesting for full player BAN for ALEX.
if you think the same as me, that alex shud be BANNED. i think you should officially petition it too. I swear, someone gag this idiot. so are you saying that mittani is right? about what he did at fanfest? and that all the other 6 CSM should join him in his methodology of presentation?
You're just making **** up at this point. |
Kallynda Nai
Tightpants Inc
58
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:49:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Jan VanRijkdom wrote:Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:The Mittani wrote:You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything.
~10,058~ Oh my humble apologies for tarnishing your great reputation, Mittani the Great. I just hope that you think twice before asking thousands of other players to partake in an act to provoke a mentally unstable person to commit suicide. Where is ANY proof that this 'mentally unstable' person was as he claimed? Can't anyone claim anything? Link to the MD diagnosis or I say it's just some emo kid being an emo kid. he dosent have too. He was threatened with then end result of death.His current or past mental stability actually dont have to come into play at all in this case. Nor does anyone's for that matter. What was done is wrong irrespective of that. Actually not knowing the mental state at all is more damning for anyone that would do what the mittani suggested.
Oops, no he wasn't.
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Florestan Bronstein
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
484
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Posted - 2012.03.28 06:28:00 -
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Soldarius wrote:I have yet to give my opinion on the actual events. However, to all those who say that that suicidal people don't speak out and just stay quiet, I'll just leave this here. there's a difference between people who seriously want to kill themselves, people who want to be rescued and might end up killing themselves if that doesn't happen/they are not taken seriously and people who want to use their suicide to get back at their enemies.
I have suffered from depressive episodes for a long time and had my share of fun contemplating suicide.
It is very easy to kill yourself without anybody being able to stop you - if you actually want to. Most suicidals tend to mitigate that problem by imposing a host of additional restrictions - it has to be at a certain place, it has to be a certain (usually low success rate) method, it has to be "clean", it has to be this, it has to be that and most importantly the world that caused you all this misery has to know about it. In short, they try everything to make sure their attempt won't be a successful one while still being a credible/legit suicide attempt. They crave the "theatrical scene" more than unspectacular death itself.
Some information on (teen) suicides to illustrate my point: Three times more women attempt suicide than men, yet four times more men die by suicide than women. "There are an estimated 8-25 attempted suicides for each teen suicide death; the ratio is higher in women and youth and lower in men and the elderly."
That's an abysmal success rate and my intuition is that many of the successful suicides are accidents (where the method proved to be more effective than expected or help didn't arrive in time) rather than fully intentional.
I was cured from any suicidal ambitions (but of course not from depression) when I had to stand watch for a few hours in the middle of the night with a live firearm. It was the kairos to commit suicide so to speak - none of my comrades were acutely aware of my problems, nobody could have arrived in time to stop me, headshots are very reliably lethal if done right (not the temple), no drama, no last words, no farewell letters, ... - it was the perfect moment and I did let it pass. After that there was no point in romanticizing suicide - if I'm not willing to do it the most straightforward and reliable way, then I have to face the fact that maybe - deep down - I just don't want to die. If I had been fool enough to contemplate "soft" methods (pills, cutting your wrists, ...) I might have ended up killing myself by accident.
So yes, in an empirical sense you are probably right - people who try to kill themselves often send out signs before doing so and some of those who try will succeed. If somebody tells you about being suicidal he either wants your help (good) or wants to make you feel bad about his death later on (bad). In any case you should probably take action to help the suicidal contribute his part to that horribly bad success rate and/or so you don#t feel bad about yourself if he/she happens to succeed.
But in spirit I have to side with the post you replied to - a person that just wants to be dead and nothing more has many ways to do so at his disposal and none of them entails alerting other people to his situation. |
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.03.28 06:32:00 -
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KanashiiKami wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:KanashiiKami wrote:anyway, i did submit a petition to CCP requesting for full player BAN for ALEX.
if you think the same as me, that alex shud be BANNED. i think you should officially petition it too. Rerpoted for harassment. BAM! Can you taste that ******* irony!? pls explain my method of harrassment? Harassing people on the forums to bully CCP to ban someone, who has already formally apologized and even payed for any damages (both mental and virtual) out of his own pocket, when the "injured" party (who is reported to be in fine health by the way) barely even remembers, or very much cares about the event that caused him to sent that E-Mail mentioned in the alliance panel.
Stop being so butthurt over this. Everybody is fine (physically and mentally), and have said their mea culpas (The Mittani). Everybody should just chill the hell out, and get back to blowing each other up, rather than blowing up the forums.
That which does not kill you, makes you stronger.-á Friedrich Nietzsche
That which does not kill you, hurts like hell.-á UNKNOWN |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
216
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Posted - 2012.03.28 06:42:00 -
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I've had a change of mind. If Fanfest would have been a bar and Mittens would have told someone at the bar to go kill themselves, Patrick Swayze would have kicked his ass.
Patrick Swayze, rest his soul, would not have abided by this. Why should we?
Mittens out, Roadhouse in |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
382
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Posted - 2012.03.28 06:56:00 -
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Mortimer Civeri wrote:KanashiiKami wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:KanashiiKami wrote:anyway, i did submit a petition to CCP requesting for full player BAN for ALEX.
if you think the same as me, that alex shud be BANNED. i think you should officially petition it too. Rerpoted for harassment. BAM! Can you taste that ******* irony!? pls explain my method of harrassment? Harassing people on the forums to bully CCP to ban someone, who has already formally apologized and even payed for any damages (both mental and virtual) out of his own pocket, when the "injured" party (who is reported to be in fine health by the way) barely even remembers, or very much cares about the event that caused him to sent that E-Mail mentioned in the alliance panel. Stop being so butthurt over this. Everybody is fine (physically and mentally), and have said their mea culpas (The Mittani). Everybody should just chill the hell out, and get back to blowing each other up, rather than blowing up the forums.
Wow Thats a stretch if if i ever saw one. |
Major Spag
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
103
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Posted - 2012.03.28 07:13:00 -
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IGNATIUS HOOD wrote:Major Spag wrote:To say nothing of the complete waste of posting and finger movement energy that should have got the vast majority of the people on this forum to resign and/or get them banned.
Seriously, if you honestly cared enough about this player, you should have spent the last year since the incident coaching him and convincing him to seek medical help. Good job caring only when it is popular to do so. I hope whichever internet girl friend you have is truly impressed over your sudden concern for someone who is so terribly mentally handicapped as to contemplate suicide over an effing video game! I am serious. Pat yourself on the back. You win the internet by caring only because it was mentioned in a drunk fueled power point presentation. :golfclap:
You seem to misunderstand. I don't know, nor do I care personally about the player. However if I had received an e-mail in which a player admits to suicidal thoughts the absolute last thing I would consider doing is to include it into a Presentation I intended to give at Fanfest and then openly suggest people greif the guy! Especially if I was the CEO of Goonswarm and the Chairman of the CSM. Some things you just don't do.
In your case, that would be posting! |
Zleon Leigh
107
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Posted - 2012.03.28 07:20:00 -
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I think its about time for CCP to stand up and make a statement. Anyone else? Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital.
CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
216
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Posted - 2012.03.28 07:25:00 -
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Zleon Leigh wrote:I think its about time for CCP to stand up and make a statement. Anyone else?
Definitely! I've been waiting for like 20 minutes for them to tell us if we'll ever be able to watch Roadhouse in our CQ's! That's 18 or so minutes too long, unaccetable!
*emails Eurogamer* |
Sidus Sarmiang
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
130
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Posted - 2012.03.28 07:29:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Zleon Leigh wrote:I think its about time for CCP to stand up and make a statement. Anyone else? Definitely! I've been waiting for like 20 minutes for them to tell us if we'll ever be able to watch Roadhouse in our CQ's! That's 18 or so minutes too long, unaccetable! *emails Eurogamer*
I got Kotaku. They're primarily about Japanese stuff I think, but I'm pretty sure the Japanese like Roadhouse.
At least they better if they know what's good for them.
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Scien Inkunen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2012.03.28 07:40:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:-1
Stop whining. He acted fine Are you kidding me? Encouraging other players to partake in a possible suicide of a mentally unstable person is "acting fine?" Its a joke. I know. But it has gone too far. Anybody who threatens to commit suicide over a video game deserves to be mocked.
So, you (the great guys) all have two (or more) personalities - one for real life and other for gaming ... and must be universal genius in RL. You must write a book on human mind which should be accepted like new standard in psychology. Bravo to you. And that video of CSM was most interesting and resourceful - almost like some NATO session - and keep up the great work .... Read the "Fart file" and you will understand the meaning of life ! |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2012.03.28 07:44:00 -
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Any sign of the delightful Ladie Harlot and his special take on this story?
Morning here, so may have missed him. |
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