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KanashiiKami
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:38:00 -
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Gevlin wrote:this problem could have been avoided by not providing personal information.
quite true
but mittens being mittens .... looks very happy talking about all the poor folks he harassed .... isit the victims fault for ... mailing him stuffs after getting clobbered badly by him/goons? WUT ??? |
Gevlin
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
121
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:38:00 -
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No one should be sending any eve mails to anyone describing their real life to anyone. Especially information to goons to try and gain sympathy from them or any aggressor.
I agree with several people: CCP needs to focus most of eve's recources on FIS, but the development of WIS still needs to continue, just as a slower and more efficient pace. In eve I wish to be more than just a machine. |
KanashiiKami
50
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:41:00 -
[2913] - Quote
Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:Then he probably shouldn't have sent it to someone in Goonswarm. Irrelevant. Mittani has already said he crossed a line that should not be crossed.
yep now all CCP needs is to hopefully BAN him WUT ??? |
hioshi IV
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:41:00 -
[2914] - Quote
Gevlin wrote:No one should be sending any eve mails to anyone describing their real life to anyone. Especially information to goons to try and gain sympathy from them or any aggressor.
And how does excuse mitanus behavior anyway?
As a CSM representative, he must set the example, he didn't, he ashamed the entire eve community and ccp as a corporation. |
Gevlin
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
121
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:42:00 -
[2915] - Quote
I know this sound like blame the victim......
But you need to stop breaking the TOS and make you self into a potential victim.
I agree with several people: CCP needs to focus most of eve's recources on FIS, but the development of WIS still needs to continue, just as a slower and more efficient pace. In eve I wish to be more than just a machine. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
534
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:42:00 -
[2916] - Quote
hioshi IV wrote:Gevlin wrote:No one should be sending any eve mails to anyone describing their real life to anyone. Especially information to goons to try and gain sympathy from them or any aggressor.
And how does excuse mitanus behavior anyway? As a CSM representative, he must set the example, he didn't, he ashamed the entire eve community and ccp as a corporation.
Fainting couch is to the right. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
117
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:44:00 -
[2917] - Quote
Kallynda Nai wrote:Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:Then he probably shouldn't have sent it to someone in Goonswarm. Irrelevant. Mittani has already said he crossed a line that should not be crossed. Pretty ******* relevant. If you divulge your personal info to some random on the internet, you lose any expectation of privacy. Only this time the random happens to be someone really important and he told people to grief the player. Also Xython I can't really comment on the csm7 motives because I for one don't care if Mittens has/had the chair. |
Chokichi Ozuwara
Lucky Dragon Convenience
37
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:45:00 -
[2918] - Quote
Kallynda Nai wrote:Pretty ******* relevant. If you divulge your personal info to some random on the internet, you lose any expectation of privacy. Mittani has already said he crossed a line that should not be crossed.
Start a corp and do it yourself. You'll fail, but you'll enjoy failing. Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
Prince Kobol
426
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:46:00 -
[2919] - Quote
Kallynda Nai wrote:Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:Then he probably shouldn't have sent it to someone in Goonswarm. Irrelevant. Mittani has already said he crossed a line that should not be crossed. Pretty ******* relevant. If you divulge your personal info to some random on the internet, you lose any expectation of privacy.
You could also argue that he was talking to the CSM Chairman at the time and considering his position didn't think he would then use it months later to further mock and humiliate him in front of thousands of people..
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KanashiiKami
50
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:47:00 -
[2920] - Quote
Gevlin wrote:No one should be sending any eve mails to anyone describing their real life to anyone. Especially information to goons to try and gain sympathy from them or any aggressor.
well he being in the mental state that he may be in ... he could write about anything ... so Mittens took it and brought it to fanfest like a shiny trophy. if there were 50 such mails, i believe mittens would have been very happy with his harassment results and took them ALL to fanfest in a extended slides version to present .... but to ADD the part of asking players to help him die ... is way overboard ...
i do not see anyway but that CCP should BAN mittani WUT ??? |
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Gevlin
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
121
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:50:00 -
[2921] - Quote
hioshi IV wrote:Gevlin wrote:No one should be sending any eve mails to anyone describing their real life to anyone. Especially information to goons to try and gain sympathy from them or any aggressor.
And how does excuse mitanus behavior anyway? As a CSM representative, he must set the example, he didn't, he ashamed the entire eve community and ccp as a corporation.
Put on the Breaks.... People voted on who the mittani for who he in game... Mittani continues to remain the mittani even though he has the added responsibility of being a voice for the players...
Also while on the CSM panel - the Mittani did act differently when he was on the alliance panel.
The Mittani acts as a CSM Representative when he is a CSM Representative. Mittani does not Act as a CSM Representative when he is being the leader of the Goons... He acts like the leader of the Goons. For example - Being third party for super transactions.
I agree with several people: CCP needs to focus most of eve's recources on FIS, but the development of WIS still needs to continue, just as a slower and more efficient pace. In eve I wish to be more than just a machine. |
Kallynda Nai
Tightpants Inc
83
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:50:00 -
[2922] - Quote
Prince Kobol wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:Then he probably shouldn't have sent it to someone in Goonswarm. Irrelevant. Mittani has already said he crossed a line that should not be crossed. Pretty ******* relevant. If you divulge your personal info to some random on the internet, you lose any expectation of privacy. You could also argue that he was talking to the CSM Chairman at the time and considering his position didn't think he would then use it months later to further mock and humiliate him in front of thousands of people.. Except that the original eve-mail wasn't sent to The Mittani. And even then, no you couldn't. |
Kallynda Nai
Tightpants Inc
83
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:51:00 -
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Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:Pretty ******* relevant. If you divulge your personal info to some random on the internet, you lose any expectation of privacy. Mittani has already said he crossed a line that should not be crossed.
Yessssss for making a tasteless joke. Do you know how many eve-mails just like this are posted out in the open for anyone to read? |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
117
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:54:00 -
[2924] - Quote
Kallynda Nai wrote:Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:Pretty ******* relevant. If you divulge your personal info to some random on the internet, you lose any expectation of privacy. Mittani has already said he crossed a line that should not be crossed. Yessssss for making a tasteless joke. Do you know how many eve-mails just like this are posted out in the open for anyone to read? Lol,keep telling yourself that... |
Chokichi Ozuwara
Lucky Dragon Convenience
37
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:55:00 -
[2925] - Quote
Kallynda Nai wrote:Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:Pretty ******* relevant. If you divulge your personal info to some random on the internet, you lose any expectation of privacy. Mittani has already said he crossed a line that should not be crossed. Yessssss for making a tasteless joke. Do you know how many eve-mails just like this are posted out in the open for anyone to read? Tu quoque is a logical fallacy.
I am not making a tasteless joke. This is what the Mittani has said.
Quote:I feel absolutely ashamed of my behavior at the Alliance Panel.
Quote:I went way, way, /way/ past the line on Thursday night by mocking the Mackinaw miner at a real-life event.
Those are his words, not mine. Start a corp and do it yourself. You'll fail, but you'll enjoy failing. Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
Gevlin
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
121
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:56:00 -
[2926] - Quote
Do not provide Personal Information in game!
Meta gamers are saying the information as lies. to get their way.
How can I tell the difference?....
Do i know the guy... is he just faking tears.... so I back down....?
Is he a Raiden dot alt playing the sympathy card?
there are so many what ifs.
The only way to stop hurting Real people is for this real information from being presented. The only way that can be done is by the victims... There are too many meta gamers out there that are trying to use this to their advantage.
I agree with several people: CCP needs to focus most of eve's recources on FIS, but the development of WIS still needs to continue, just as a slower and more efficient pace. In eve I wish to be more than just a machine. |
hioshi IV
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:57:00 -
[2927] - Quote
Gevlin wrote:hioshi IV wrote:Gevlin wrote:No one should be sending any eve mails to anyone describing their real life to anyone. Especially information to goons to try and gain sympathy from them or any aggressor.
And how does excuse mitanus behavior anyway? As a CSM representative, he must set the example, he didn't, he ashamed the entire eve community and ccp as a corporation. Put on the Breaks.... People voted on who the mittani for who he in game... Mittani continues to remain the mittani even though he has the added responsibility of being a voice for the players... Also while on the CSM panel - the Mittani did act differently when he was on the alliance panel. The Mittani acts as a CSM Representative when he is a CSM Representative. Mittani does not Act as a CSM Representative when he is being the leader of the Goons... He acts like the leader of the Goons. For example - Being third party for super transactions.
what breaks? you nuts? You even know how it feels like been bullied ? You even know what's feeling so down you want to kill yourself and people coming over making sure you die? there's no breaks here, he crossed a line, crossed it way beyond any possible excuse for his words, his behavior..
he must go, only way ccp can fix this on community eyes, for the media eyes, and for my eyes as well.
bullies cannot be tolerated, in any way shape or form! ever!
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KanashiiKami
52
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:58:00 -
[2928] - Quote
Gevlin wrote:hioshi IV wrote:Gevlin wrote:No one should be sending any eve mails to anyone describing their real life to anyone. Especially information to goons to try and gain sympathy from them or any aggressor.
And how does excuse mitanus behavior anyway? As a CSM representative, he must set the example, he didn't, he ashamed the entire eve community and ccp as a corporation. Put on the Breaks.... People voted on who the mittani for who he in game... Mittani continues to remain the mittani even though he has the added responsibility of being a voice for the players... Also while on the CSM panel - the Mittani did act differently when he was on the alliance panel. The Mittani acts as a CSM Representative when he is a CSM Representative. Mittani does not Act as a CSM Representative when he is being the leader of the Goons... He acts like the leader of the Goons. For example - Being third party for super transactions.
voice yes ... for a certain group that voted for him ... some say its 20000 pilots ...
so it does not mean he DOES represent ALL of us :p WUT ??? |
Prince Kobol
427
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:02:00 -
[2929] - Quote
Kallynda Nai wrote:Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:Pretty ******* relevant. If you divulge your personal info to some random on the internet, you lose any expectation of privacy. Mittani has already said he crossed a line that should not be crossed. Yessssss for making a tasteless joke. Do you know how many eve-mails just like this are posted out in the open for anyone to read?
Not on the Eve Official forums as it is not permitted. |
1Of9
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
13
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:04:00 -
[2930] - Quote
hioshi IV wrote:Gevlin wrote:hioshi IV wrote:Gevlin wrote:No one should be sending any eve mails to anyone describing their real life to anyone. Especially information to goons to try and gain sympathy from them or any aggressor.
And how does excuse mitanus behavior anyway? As a CSM representative, he must set the example, he didn't, he ashamed the entire eve community and ccp as a corporation. Put on the Breaks.... People voted on who the mittani for who he in game... Mittani continues to remain the mittani even though he has the added responsibility of being a voice for the players... Also while on the CSM panel - the Mittani did act differently when he was on the alliance panel. The Mittani acts as a CSM Representative when he is a CSM Representative. Mittani does not Act as a CSM Representative when he is being the leader of the Goons... He acts like the leader of the Goons. For example - Being third party for super transactions. what breaks? you nuts? You even know how it feels like been bullied ? You even know what's feeling so down you want to kill yourself and people coming over making sure you die? there's no breaks here, he crossed a line, crossed it way beyond any possible excuse for his words, his behavior.. he must go, only way ccp can fix this on community eyes, for the media eyes, and for my eyes as well. bullies cannot be tolerated, in any way shape or form! ever!
Breaks? He should go to jail for what he did.. break??
I want him banned and removed permanently from CSM, ccp cannot keep him active, it will be a disgrace if ccp keeps him active. |
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1Of9
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
13
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:05:00 -
[2931] - Quote
Not to mention the media storm over all of this if ccp dont act |
MIrple
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
24
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:11:00 -
[2932] - Quote
With this witch hunt all you people have started. Please remember that you also will reap what you sow. If you push so hard for Mittens to get banned please don't wine when CCP bans you for something they consider bulling in game. If you think that this witch hunt will only affect him and no one else you are sadly a fool. |
KanashiiKami
52
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:14:00 -
[2933] - Quote
1Of9 wrote:hioshi IV wrote:Gevlin wrote:hioshi IV wrote:Gevlin wrote:No one should be sending any eve mails to anyone describing their real life to anyone. Especially information to goons to try and gain sympathy from them or any aggressor.
And how does excuse mitanus behavior anyway? As a CSM representative, he must set the example, he didn't, he ashamed the entire eve community and ccp as a corporation. Put on the Breaks.... People voted on who the mittani for who he in game... Mittani continues to remain the mittani even though he has the added responsibility of being a voice for the players... Also while on the CSM panel - the Mittani did act differently when he was on the alliance panel. The Mittani acts as a CSM Representative when he is a CSM Representative. Mittani does not Act as a CSM Representative when he is being the leader of the Goons... He acts like the leader of the Goons. For example - Being third party for super transactions. what breaks? you nuts? You even know how it feels like been bullied ? You even know what's feeling so down you want to kill yourself and people coming over making sure you die? there's no breaks here, he crossed a line, crossed it way beyond any possible excuse for his words, his behavior.. he must go, only way ccp can fix this on community eyes, for the media eyes, and for my eyes as well. bullies cannot be tolerated, in any way shape or form! ever! Breaks? He should go to jail for what he did.. break?? I want him banned and removed permanently from CSM, ccp cannot keep him active, it will be a disgrace if ccp keeps him active.
i do not know how real life legality will translate,
but in game wise i am hoping for CCP to BAN him. and possibly lifetime BAN all accounts.
WUT ??? |
KanashiiKami
55
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:18:00 -
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MIrple wrote:With this witch hunt all you people have started. Please remember that you also will reap what you sow. If you push so hard for Mittens to get banned please don't wine when CCP bans you for something they consider bulling in game. If you think that this witch hunt will only affect him and no one else you are sadly a fool.
CCP usually only acts on exploits of game, and i believe i do hear of BANs due to racists remarks
MITTANI created a new "exploit" that only he could achieve and deals with real life ... at fanfest ... and only as a CSM ... hmmm he could be smiling reading this.
well anyway ... CCP ... pls pls ... you know wad i want to say ... the B word ... B B B B B !
WUT ??? |
PsychoBitch
Playboy Enterprises Dark Taboo
252
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:19:00 -
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CCP should have him unceremoniously removed immediately, and banned. |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
454
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:19:00 -
[2936] - Quote
MIrple wrote:With this witch hunt all you people have started. Please remember that you also will reap what you sow. If you push so hard for Mittens to get banned please don't wine when CCP bans you for something they consider bulling in game. If you think that this witch hunt will only affect him and no one else you are sadly a fool.
Witch hunt implies he did nothing wrong and is just being persecuted.
Sucks about it all being on video huh. Kinda ruins that Witch hunt concept you want to spin into the narrative.
This is the furthest thing from a witch hunt. |
Gevlin
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
121
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:21:00 -
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Most of us are geeks playing eve. Most of us have been bullied, infact that what makes us the worst bullies of all. The bullied are the worst bullies because they feel that since they were once the victim they can't do any thing wrong.
Hence the Flaming of Mittani. We are all taking our being bullied frustrations on him.
So what have you done for the victim? I was able to find him, offered to sit on guard in an Ospray with reps encase gankers came. and offered while I had the standing to keep attacking a GSC to summon the concord till my standing was no longer. I was told that was not needed. So I left. But I have left an offer to call me if he needed help in the future... Leaving him a GÇ£markerGÇ¥
Am I saying what the Mittani did was over the top. Yes! I also think a goon mind set was in place when he put the slide show together, with out removing the name of the individual from the post- (a goon needs an internet space ship face on his victim.) I also think the combination of Alcohol and per pressure to be the goon leader in front of his fellow goons in the audience caused his over the top reaction to go after a victim.
Personally I think that at Fan Feast anyone doing any formal presentation must be sober during those presentation. Which includes Alliance panel. Any Presentation involving the Live Stream needs to have an active moderator on stand by to circumvent the repeat of what happened.
So what can we do to prevent this from happening again:
No sharing of personal information. No Alcohol on any formal panel. The Alliance Leadership Panel is now to be seen as an official panel. A CCP representative now aware of what to look for leading the panel especially if it will be live streamed.
Banning Mittens?.. is punishing the symptom not fixing the problem. As there will always be another mittens just under a different name. I agree with several people: CCP needs to focus most of eve's recources on FIS, but the development of WIS still needs to continue, just as a slower and more efficient pace. In eve I wish to be more than just a machine. |
KanashiiKami
55
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:22:00 -
[2938] - Quote
RougeOperator wrote:MIrple wrote:With this witch hunt all you people have started. Please remember that you also will reap what you sow. If you push so hard for Mittens to get banned please don't wine when CCP bans you for something they consider bulling in game. If you think that this witch hunt will only affect him and no one else you are sadly a fool. Witch hunt implies he did nothing wrong and is just being persecuted. Sucks about it all being on video huh. Kinda ruins that Witch hunt concept you want to spin into the narrative. This is the furthest thing from a witch hunt.
arrgh my english is bad, you are right. i din even quite understand wad is witch hunt ...
WITCH HUNT IS A WRONG TERM TO USE *pawned* !!! WUT ??? |
Yukanojo
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:24:00 -
[2939] - Quote
Horatio hornblower! |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
459
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:25:00 -
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Gevlin wrote:Most of us are geeks playing eve. Most of us have been bullied, infact that what makes us the worst bullies of all. The bullied are the worst bullies because they feel that since they were once the victim they can't do any thing wrong.
Hence the Flaming of Mittani. We are all taking our being bullied frustrations on him.
So what have you done for the victim? I was able to find him, offered to sit on guard in an Ospray with reps encase gankers came. and offered while I had the standing to keep attacking a GSC to summon the concord till my standing was no longer. I was told that was not needed. So I left. But I have left an offer to call me if he needed help in the future... Leaving him a GÇ£markerGÇ¥
Am I saying what the Mittani did was over the top. Yes! I also think a goon mind set was in place when he put the slide show together, with out removing the name of the individual from the post- (a goon needs an internet space ship face on his victim.) I also think the combination of Alcohol and per pressure to be the goon leader in front of his fellow goons in the audience caused his over the top reaction to go after a victim.
Personally I think that at Fan Feast anyone doing any formal presentation must be sober during those presentation. Which includes Alliance panel. Any Presentation involving the Live Stream needs to have an active moderator on stand by to circumvent the repeat of what happened.
So what can we do to prevent this from happening again:
No sharing of personal information. No Alcohol on any formal panel. The Alliance Leadership Panel is now to be seen as an official panel. A CCP representative now aware of what to look for leading the panel especially if it will be live streamed.
Banning Mittens?.. is punishing the symptom not fixing the problem. As there will always be another mittens just under a different name.
And he would know from the precedent that he will be banned for trying to get someone killed IRL. |
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