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Rells
Fusillade.
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Posted - 2012.03.26 07:56:00 -
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10. Everyone stays out of the nasty PvP zones where all those evil null sec guys and pirates that want to actually blow up ships live.
9. People spend hours arguing over which mission gives the best loyalty points.
8. People spend half their forum time screaming for someone in CCP to nerf those evil pirates.
7. The only ships CCP introduce to the game are so expensive that only a maniac would take them into PVP and not even he would be aggressive with it.
6. People are still screaming about war decs instead of dealing with the war dec corps themselves.
5. 10 Years later CCP still hasn't figured out how to fix sovereignty, create player kingdom borders or do anything to facilitate player created content but they have figured out how to get rid of all risk in empire.
4. The market still centers around a single clogged system in high sec. (So the move from Yulai to Jita worked out well didn't it ? LOL)
3. Although CCP can't figure out how to un-nerf 0.0 space, they did figure out how to let you walk in a space station so you can look cool.
2. There is actually a market panel for people to buy things to accessorize their character.
And the top sign that Eve has become WOW in space.
1. There is, no joke, an "EPIC Mission" panel in the interface. I wonder what the stats are on the reward sword? |
Kyra Yaken
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.26 08:05:00 -
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Excellent!
Now, the statement "go back to WoW" doesnt hold water anymore. Cause EVE = WoW
You seem like a bright person |
Kehro Urgus
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Posted - 2012.03.26 08:07:00 -
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11. This thread. You know what you find in a sandbox? Sand and cat poo. |
Rells
Fusillade.
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Posted - 2012.03.26 08:08:00 -
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Kyra Yaken wrote:Excellent!
Now, the statement "go back to WoW" doesnt hold water anymore. Cause EVE = WoW
You seem like a bright person
True. Very true.
Ironic.
But true. |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.03.26 08:08:00 -
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You could have just kept your angst to one thread. You know how to leave Eve, so leave it to the players who want to play. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong White-Lotus
482
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Posted - 2012.03.26 08:09:00 -
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So in other words eve isn't a good enough sandbox in your opinion because it gives people the ability to do everything you just posted.
I thought the point of sandbox was to give players the right to play however they want? The more playstyles you can support the better the sandbox, it makes combat and war mean something. If highsec was the same as 0.0 it would be make pvp pointless, not special. edit: In fact if eve was only PvP, it would be less of a sandbox. And I'm a logistic ship pvp junky. I never lose a ship. |
Rells
Fusillade.
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Posted - 2012.03.26 08:09:00 -
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Rico Minali wrote:You could have just kept your angst to one thread. You know how to leave Eve, so leave it to the players who want to play.
Ahh free speech is wonderful. You have the right to try to flame and I have the right to speak my mind. Lovely isn't it.
I dont force you to read the threads. I don't force you to reply. So don't blame me for your wasted time. :) |
Xuse Senna
Saiph Industries SRS.
160
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Posted - 2012.03.26 08:12:00 -
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Meh I'm still getting good fights in 'Pvp Zones'
So Meh. xD D3 |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
2008
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Posted - 2012.03.26 08:34:00 -
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Rells wrote:10. Everyone stays out of the nasty PvP zones where all those evil null sec guys and pirates that want to actually blow up ships live.
9. People spend hours arguing over which mission gives the best loyalty points.
8. People spend half their forum time screaming for someone in CCP to nerf those evil pirates.
7. The only ships CCP introduce to the game are so expensive that only a maniac would take them into PVP and not even he would be aggressive with it.
6. People are still screaming about war decs instead of dealing with the war dec corps themselves.
5. 10 Years later CCP still hasn't figured out how to fix sovereignty, create player kingdom borders or do anything to facilitate player created content but they have figured out how to get rid of all risk in empire.
4. The market still centers around a single clogged system in high sec. (So the move from Yulai to Jita worked out well didn't it ? LOL)
3. Although CCP can't figure out how to un-nerf 0.0 space, they did figure out how to let you walk in a space station so you can look cool.
2. There is actually a market panel for people to buy things to accessorize their character.
And the top sign that Eve has become WOW in space.
1. There is, no joke, an "EPIC Mission" panel in the interface. I wonder what the stats are on the reward sword?
10. Not really. Some do, but that has always been the case.
9. As they have always argued.
8. As has always been the case.
7. You mean like the tier 3 battlecruisers, that are massively popular and cheap to use?
6. As has always been the case.
5. Except we have player made empires and have had them soon after the game launched. The only thing really safer in highsec today is CCP stopped policing the wardec loopholes and that will be coming to an end with the new wardec system.
4. What's the problem? We chose it, it's good for buyers and sellers and the lag is gone. You still have regional hubs, but rare items and bulk purchases work better with a central market hub.
3. Seems more like a case of don't want to do it or don't want to focus on it right now. 0.0 has gotten a lot of attention for good and bad in recent years. It needs it, but there are other areas that need it just as badly and you can't do it all.
2. Not the best implementation, but you've got to sell those items somehow. Or are you complaining about the fact we are allowed to buy clothing at all?
1. How else are people going to know about or keep track of those arcs? Surely you aren't suggesting, that the best similarity you could come up with was that both games utilize the word epic in describing part of their content.
I don't expect you to like the game and you've always been a bit thin skinned and easy to agitate, so your threads tend to turn to crap pretty quickly. You could still put the minimum amount of effort in your critique and complaints, instead of relying on blatant trolling and lying to make your point. It just makes you seem silly and easy to ignore, since you don't really have anything to stand on. |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
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Posted - 2012.03.26 08:37:00 -
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Rells wrote:10. Everyone stays out of the nasty PvP zones where all those evil null sec guys and pirates that want to actually blow up ships live
9. People spend hours arguing over which mission gives the best loyalty points.
8. People spend half their forum time screaming for someone in CCP to nerf those evil pirates.
7. The only ships CCP introduce to the game are so expensive that only a maniac would take them into PVP and not even he would be aggressive with it.
6. People are still screaming about war decs instead of dealing with the war dec corps themselves
5. 10 Years later CCP still hasn't figured out how to fix sovereignty, create player kingdom borders or do anything to facilitate player created content but they have figured out how to get rid of all risk in empire.
4. The market still centers around a single clogged system in high sec. (So the move from Yulai to Jita worked out well didn't it ? LOL
3. Although CCP can't figure out how to un-nerf 0.0 space, they did figure out how to let you walk in a space station so you can look cool.
2. There is actually a market panel for people to buy things to accessorize their character.
And the top sign that Eve has become WOW in space.
1. There is, no joke, an "EPIC Mission" panel in the interface. I wonder what the stats are on the reward sword?
10.Low-sec isn't rewarding enough to risk your small gang being hotdropped by an entire fleet. Go try out WHs.
9. People have been discussing missions like that since, maybe 2005 or so. It hasn't really changed much, excect incursions got more popular/
8. People have been screaming that since 2003, when M0o basically owned Mara.
7. In know there's inflation, but the Tier3 battlecruisers aren't THAT expensive, you know.
6. Again... not changed since 2003. Though with the decshields it has actually calmed down a bit. Inferno will have some very good changes.
5. I don't remember exactly but Sov is only 6 years old or so. And there is plenty of risk in empire (most ships destroyed is still in Jita)
4. With the removal of most high-way gates Yulai lost it's hub status. Jita became the new hub because of the abundance of players in Caldari space and the proximity to the Niarja-Kapuutenen high-way gate (which should have been removed as well). Only when Jita became too crowded, other systems become to grow as hubs, most of them already being mission-runner hubs like Dodixie and Hek. Amarr became popular, likely because it's the southern hub connected to the Niarja-Kapuutenen gate.
3. And EVE burned for that mistake in Incarna.
2. *shrugs*
1. The Epic missions are just long a string of long story-line missions. There's no purple ship at the end of them.
Good to see your posts haven't changed too much though, Rells http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tobiaz/sig_complaints.gif
How about fixing image-linking on the forums, CCP? I want to see signatures! |
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Written Word
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
229
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Posted - 2012.03.26 08:48:00 -
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The amount of stupid you contain is staggering.
Seriously. You should have added "You have to put an account name and password into the client to log on JUST LIKE WOW OMFG" and it would have been your most valid point. |
Florestan Bronstein
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
465
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Posted - 2012.03.26 09:13:00 -
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obnoxious post incoming...
Rells wrote:10. Everyone stays out of the nasty PvP zones where all those evil null sec guys and pirates that want to actually blow up ships live. I'm playing on one the largest EU pvp realms and I see "world pvp" happening in current pvp zones. It's admittedly a lot more quiet than it used to be a year ago but I don't see people evading Tol Barad Peninsula or the Molten Front purposely - just not many reasons left to do the quests this late into an expansion. Especially Tol Barad can become quite lively before/after battles.
Also far more high population realms on the EU servers are pvp realms than pve realms - avoidance of pvp doesn't seem to be typical for wow players.
Rells wrote:9. People spend hours arguing over which mission gives the best loyalty points. . reputation is generally not an issue in wow (and when it is the gains are gated anyways) - no point to argue about it. gold in general is not an issue for most players so no reason to make a fuss over quest rewards or farming methods.
Rells wrote:8. People spend half their forum time screaming for someone in CCP to nerf those evil pirates. wow players spend half their forum time screaming for blizzard to encourage more world pvp.
Rells wrote:7. The only ships CCP introduce to the game are so expensive that only a maniac would take them into PVP and not even he would be aggressive with it. no item loss, wow players like using shiny gear in combat. most items are bound to a character on pickup, so they can't be traded at all - there are hardly expensive items that are non-vanity.
Rells wrote:6. People are still screaming about war decs instead of dealing with the war dec corps themselves. war-decs what is that? horde and alliance are always at war. |
Florestan Bronstein
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
465
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Posted - 2012.03.26 09:13:00 -
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Rells wrote:5. 10 Years later CCP still hasn't figured out how to fix sovereignty, create player kingdom borders or do anything to facilitate player created content but they have figured out how to get rid of all risk in empire. I heard some wow players desperately want player housing so I am with you on that one.
Rells wrote:4. The market still centers around a single clogged system in high sec. (So the move from Yulai to Jita worked out well didn't it ? LOL) I can work the auction house from Undercity or Thunder Bluff just as well as I can do it from Orgrimmar. Even the trade channel is shared between all cities.
Rells wrote:3. Although CCP can't figure out how to un-nerf 0.0 space, they did figure out how to let you walk in a space station so you can look cool. wow only has a crashed spaceship inhabited by goats - no space stations, sorry.
Rells wrote:2. There is actually a market panel for people to buy things to accessorize their character. I think in WoW that panel is called "Armor" ^^
Rells wrote:And the top sign that Eve has become WOW in space.
1. There is, no joke, an "EPIC Mission" panel in the interface. I wonder what the stats are on the reward sword?[/quote] legendary quests are tracked no differently than normal quests. |
fgft Athonille
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.26 09:14:00 -
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ask rells about his family to make this thread even better |
Qvar Dar'Zanar
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2012.03.26 09:36:00 -
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Rells wrote: 8. People spend half their forum time screaming for someone in CCP to nerf those evil pirates.
Just like they scream over weeks when they actually are. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
666
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Posted - 2012.03.26 09:46:00 -
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You played to much WoW |
Ank Parkor
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Posted - 2012.03.26 09:56:00 -
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Trying to have more active players can't be wrong. Players are the same everywhere, and what please them in a game will please them in another.
Anyway I can't remember the last time I was afraid to haul a very valuable cargo in Wow. Or knowing I have no 100% safe places. Or being destroyed during quest/missions if I do something wrong. Or being able to buy PLEX. Or being immune to nerfs.
There are hundred of differences beetween the two games and EVE stays an unsecure place where a dangerous encounter can happen all the time wherever you are. Funny to see that the hubs are the safest place in wow and can be the most risky locations in Eve.
Seriously.... Making the game more attractive to new players while the old ones aren't screwed is good and must be done.
Long term plan >>> everything. That's why Eve still exists and will last many years. "Adapt or die" applies also to vets, not only to rookies. Moo |
Farrisen
MoaR ChickeN
66
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Posted - 2012.03.26 10:41:00 -
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7. The only ships CCP introduce to the game are so expensive that only a maniac would take them into PVP and not even he would be aggressive with it.
Say whaaaaaaaaaat?
Latest ship's that got added were the Tier 3 BC's, which are pretty decent for PvP and cost's barley anything
Or are you referring to the "so expensive" T3's? http://i.imgur.com/DWBuV.png
Originally by: CCP Spitfire: It's because of falcon. |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
67
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:02:00 -
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Farrisen wrote:7. The only ships CCP introduce to the game are so expensive that only a maniac would take them into PVP and not even he would be aggressive with it. Say whaaaaaaaaaat? Latest ship's that got added were the Tier 3 BC's, which are pretty decent for PvP and cost's barley anything Or are you referring to the "so expensive" T3's?
He probably hasn't learned yet about the skill-loss when you lose a T3, or he would be complaining about that as well. http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tobiaz/sig_complaints.gif
How about fixing image-linking on the forums, CCP? I want to see signatures! |
Jace Errata
Lawlz Brawlz
128
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:06:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Rells wrote:10. Everyone stays out of the nasty PvP zones where all those evil null sec guys and pirates that want to actually blow up ships live.
9. People spend hours arguing over which mission gives the best loyalty points.
8. People spend half their forum time screaming for someone in CCP to nerf those evil pirates.
7. The only ships CCP introduce to the game are so expensive that only a maniac would take them into PVP and not even he would be aggressive with it.
6. People are still screaming about war decs instead of dealing with the war dec corps themselves.
5. 10 Years later CCP still hasn't figured out how to fix sovereignty, create player kingdom borders or do anything to facilitate player created content but they have figured out how to get rid of all risk in empire.
4. The market still centers around a single clogged system in high sec. (So the move from Yulai to Jita worked out well didn't it ? LOL)
3. Although CCP can't figure out how to un-nerf 0.0 space, they did figure out how to let you walk in a space station so you can look cool.
2. There is actually a market panel for people to buy things to accessorize their character.
And the top sign that Eve has become WOW in space.
1. There is, no joke, an "EPIC Mission" panel in the interface. I wonder what the stats are on the reward sword? 10. Not really. Some do, but that has always been the case. 9. As they have always argued. 8. As has always been the case. 7. You mean like the tier 3 battlecruisers, that are massively popular and cheap to use? 6. As has always been the case. 5. Except we have player made empires and have had them soon after the game launched. The only thing really safer in highsec today is CCP stopped policing the wardec loopholes and that will be coming to an end with the new wardec system. 4. What's the problem? We chose it, it's good for buyers and sellers and the lag is gone. You still have regional hubs, but rare items and bulk purchases work better with a central market hub. 3. Seems more like a case of don't want to do it or don't want to focus on it right now. 0.0 has gotten a lot of attention for good and bad in recent years. It needs it, but there are other areas that need it just as badly and you can't do it all. 2. Not the best implementation, but you've got to sell those items somehow. Or are you complaining about the fact we are allowed to buy clothing at all? 1. How else are people going to know about or keep track of those arcs? Surely you aren't suggesting, that the best similarity you could come up with was that both games utilize the word epic in describing part of their content. I don't expect you to like the game and you've always been a bit thin skinned and easy to agitate, so your threads tend to turn to crap pretty quickly. You could still put the minimum amount of effort in your critique and complaints, instead of relying on blatant trolling and lying to make your point. It just makes you seem silly and easy to ignore, since you don't really have anything to stand on.
beatdown.gif Stealth OST puns and blatant lies since 2009 Jace Errata on Twitter
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Trading Unknown
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:08:00 -
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17. Naked Elves dancing on mailboxes in Jita. |
Rells
Fusillade.
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Posted - 2012.03.26 17:30:00 -
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It appears I have riled the care bears.
OOPS. :) |
Jame Jarl Retief
Corps Diplomatique Terrestrienne
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Posted - 2012.03.26 17:40:00 -
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Rells wrote:10. Everyone stays out of the nasty PvP zones where all those evil null sec guys and pirates that want to actually blow up ships live.
Not true. In WoW anyway. You can't really stay out of "nasty PvP zones" past mid level 20s at most. Max level is 80 (or 85? been a while). Most people spend most of their time in "nasty PvP zones" in WoW.
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Magnus Orin
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
82
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Posted - 2012.03.26 17:56:00 -
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You can escape non-consensual pvp by using suicide as an ultimatum. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:38:00 -
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number 12! Space Elves.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong White-Lotus
485
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:02:00 -
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have question.
IF ccp was able to not **** up in space, but got the incarna station game working, and lets say it's so good. you could just spend all day everyday only being a bartender.
Does this somehow take away from the sandbox because he can stay safe?
Or does it make the sandbox more awesome, because it's not like that person was ever going to play eve in the 1st place if not for this new role he can fill in the game world.
The world does not revolve around your style of play, that is the difference between a sandbox, and a game like wow. |
Baby ChuChu
Ice Cream Asylum
60
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:12:00 -
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...have you played world of warcraft? Captain of the Battlestar Carebear |
Morphisat
Millard Innovation Inc
2
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:13:00 -
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Kehro Urgus wrote:11. This thread.
This one had me lol hard .
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Xervish Krin
Shiva Furnace
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:54:00 -
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Rells wrote:
7. The only ships CCP introduce to the game are so expensive that only a maniac would take them into PVP and not even he would be aggressive with it.
Don't know about you but my talos was only 70mil iirc, minus fitting. |
Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
137
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:06:00 -
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Rells wrote:10. Everyone stays out of the nasty PvP zones where all those evil null sec guys and pirates that want to actually blow up ships live.
9. People spend hours arguing over which mission gives the best loyalty points.
8. People spend half their forum time screaming for someone in CCP to nerf those evil pirates.
7. The only ships CCP introduce to the game are so expensive that only a maniac would take them into PVP and not even he would be aggressive with it.
6. People are still screaming about war decs instead of dealing with the war dec corps themselves.
5. 10 Years later CCP still hasn't figured out how to fix sovereignty, create player kingdom borders or do anything to facilitate player created content but they have figured out how to get rid of all risk in empire.
4. The market still centers around a single clogged system in high sec. (So the move from Yulai to Jita worked out well didn't it ? LOL)
3. Although CCP can't figure out how to un-nerf 0.0 space, they did figure out how to let you walk in a space station so you can look cool.
2. There is actually a market panel for people to buy things to accessorize their character.
And the top sign that Eve has become WOW in space.
1. There is, no joke, an "EPIC Mission" panel in the interface. I wonder what the stats are on the reward sword?
10. This is a fact in all MMORPGs. People generally like to stay where it's safe, it's in our nature.
9. Correction; they argue over ISK per Hour
8. All video game forums consist of 90% whining. Even ones completely unrelated to MMORPGs. Forums attract whiners because people think that the game developers will actually take the time to read every complaint.
7.This just proves you don't know what you are talking about. Titans, the most expensive ships in the game are being used like really expensive battleships these days. The fact that people are using them to hotdrop a few battlecruisers shows how little they care about risking losing them.
6. I don't think WoW has a game verified war system.
5. CCP doesn't run WoW. WoW also doesn't have sovereignty. If your going to compare two things you should at least know what one of the things you are comparing entails.
4. WoW doesn't have a player owned economy. Yulai and Jita aren't locations in WoW either (the lawyers would of jumped on that years ago if that was the case)
3. You can walk in about a million other games. I guess they are all trying to become like WoW
2. We can accessories our ships too (T3 subsystems) guess that means we are turning into WoW...
1. The fact that you associate the word "Epic" with World of Warcraft probably means you like the game.
0/10 Either a really bad troll or a total moron. |
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