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Rystan Wildstar
Deep Core Mineral Extraction Eagle Cross
2
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:18:00 -
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I already forgot who asked for examples of prosecution earlier but here's another one:
Prosecutors Charge Former Nurse With Encouraging Suicide Published 1, April 25, 2010
There is a fascinating case in Minneapolis that raises some important free speech issues in an assisted suicide case. William Melchert-Dinkel, 47, was charged with two felony counts of aiding suicide under a Minnesota law that criminalizes even verbal encouragement of suicide. Adding to the novelty is the fact that state prosecutors are charging Melchert-Dinkel in deaths that occurred not only outside the state but outside the country.
Melchert-Dinkel is accused of encouraging the suicides of Mark Drybrough, 32, who hanged himself at his home in Coventry, England, in 2005; and Nadia Kajouji, 18, of Brampton, Ontario, who drowned in 2008 in a river in Ottawa, where she was studying at Carleton University. He has said that he may have encouraged dozens of people to commit suicide and enjoyed the GÇ£thrillGÇ¥ of getting people to kill themselves.
He posed as a female nurse under such names as GÇ£Cami,GÇ¥ GÇ£falcongirl,GÇ¥ GÇ£li daoGÇ¥ and others and supplied information on how the individuals could kill themselves.
For example, an email found on DrybroughGÇÖs computer from Melchert-Dinkel showed him giving technical advice on how to hang yourself from a door, GÇ£you can easily hang from a door using the knob onw (on the other) side to tie the rope to, sling it over the top of the door, attach the noose or loop to yourself then step off and hang successfully.GÇ¥
Anyways, good luck to CCP with this one. Maybe it will all be soon forgotten and they'll have nothing to worry about, maybe it won't. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
339
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:21:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Romar Agent wrote:There are things you simply do not do.
Using an official position of strength to publicly harrass a player who might be psychically unstable is crossing a line. In more than one way.
That's it with my personal respect for Mr. Gianturco. http://i.imgur.com/pQHAE.png
ON MY GOD, Photoshop is BREAKIN' DA LAW
ARREST ADOBE! |
Prince Kobol
332
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:31:00 -
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http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/bully-pulpit/
its spreading... |
Kallynda Nai
Tightpants Inc
0
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:36:00 -
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Rystan Wildstar wrote:Marius Duvall wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:All it takes is for the guy to actually go through with suicide and then CCP would find themselves sued by the parents/siblings/wife/gf. Or the guy himself could actually sue for mental anguish caused. It's well known that people in the US sue for anything under the sun if they think they can cash in.
No matter if it was the alliance panel and not directly involving CCP, it was at a venue owned/rented by CCP and as such they would be responsible for whatever happens in it.
Based on what legal precedent? California Penal Code -º 401 - Aiding, Advising, or Encouraging Suicide Every person who deliberately aids, or advises, or encourages another to commit suicide, is guilty of a felony. Google: Ex-Rutgers Student Charged With Hate Crime After Roommate's Suicide There's other States that have similar laws. Are either Mittens man or the other guy a US citizen? I don't have any opinion on this either way but the facts are if any authorities with jurisdiction over this situation take an interest in what happened, simply saying he was "trolling" will not save his ass.
TIL CCP is based in California. |
Evei Shard
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:36:00 -
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Xython wrote:Evei Shard wrote:The entire so-called "investigation" is a facade.
If a public call for in-game harassment of a user resulted in actions that caused the person to commit suicide, most CCP employees along with all the Goons would be ecstatic.
Believe this or no, SOCKPUPPET ALT 3153, Goons don't actually want people to kill themselves in real life.
Right. Like you and your friends don't have some issues on this subject at hand already thanks to your glorious leader. It would be stupid to even hint at such a thing right now.
You must be getting pretty hard with the thought of a real killmail.
Profit favors the prepared |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
342
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:38:00 -
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Kallynda Nai wrote:Rystan Wildstar wrote:Marius Duvall wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:All it takes is for the guy to actually go through with suicide and then CCP would find themselves sued by the parents/siblings/wife/gf. Or the guy himself could actually sue for mental anguish caused. It's well known that people in the US sue for anything under the sun if they think they can cash in.
No matter if it was the alliance panel and not directly involving CCP, it was at a venue owned/rented by CCP and as such they would be responsible for whatever happens in it.
Based on what legal precedent? California Penal Code -º 401 - Aiding, Advising, or Encouraging Suicide Every person who deliberately aids, or advises, or encourages another to commit suicide, is guilty of a felony. Google: Ex-Rutgers Student Charged With Hate Crime After Roommate's Suicide There's other States that have similar laws. Are either Mittens man or the other guy a US citizen? I don't have any opinion on this either way but the facts are if any authorities with jurisdiction over this situation take an interest in what happened, simply saying he was "trolling" will not save his ass. TIL CCP is based in California.
So that's why they have the fanfest at their corporate HQ in Iceland? Tell me, where is Reykjavik, California located exactly? |
Kallynda Nai
Tightpants Inc
0
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:39:00 -
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Evei Shard wrote:Xython wrote:Evei Shard wrote:The entire so-called "investigation" is a facade.
If a public call for in-game harassment of a user resulted in actions that caused the person to commit suicide, most CCP employees along with all the Goons would be ecstatic.
Believe this or no, SOCKPUPPET ALT 3153, Goons don't actually want people to kill themselves in real life. Right. Like you and your friends don't have some issues on this subject at hand already thanks to your glorious leader. It would be stupid to even hint at such a thing right now. You must be getting pretty hard with the thought of a real killmail.
Self destructs don't generate killmails. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3421
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:39:00 -
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Considering that the dude in question is still alive I don't see how Mittens encouraged him to commit suicide ;p "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
342
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:40:00 -
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Evei Shard wrote:You must be getting pretty hard with the thought of a real killmail.
I have to admit a perverse sexual attraction to the idea of printing your killmail out a few thousand times and rolling around in it for a while, Scrooge McDuck style. |
Kallynda Nai
Tightpants Inc
0
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:40:00 -
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Xython wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:Rystan Wildstar wrote:Marius Duvall wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:All it takes is for the guy to actually go through with suicide and then CCP would find themselves sued by the parents/siblings/wife/gf. Or the guy himself could actually sue for mental anguish caused. It's well known that people in the US sue for anything under the sun if they think they can cash in.
No matter if it was the alliance panel and not directly involving CCP, it was at a venue owned/rented by CCP and as such they would be responsible for whatever happens in it.
Based on what legal precedent? California Penal Code -º 401 - Aiding, Advising, or Encouraging Suicide Every person who deliberately aids, or advises, or encourages another to commit suicide, is guilty of a felony. Google: Ex-Rutgers Student Charged With Hate Crime After Roommate's Suicide There's other States that have similar laws. Are either Mittens man or the other guy a US citizen? I don't have any opinion on this either way but the facts are if any authorities with jurisdiction over this situation take an interest in what happened, simply saying he was "trolling" will not save his ass. TIL CCP is based in California. So that's why they have the fanfest at their corporate HQ in Iceland? Tell me, where is Reykjavik, California located exactly?
Right next to your sarcasm detector, apparently. |
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Anghus McKay
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:40:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Anghus McKay wrote: And what makes you think these kind of laws only exist in the US?
There are no laws about making fun of stupid people in any country.
You're missing my point.
As someone else already kindly pointed out, there are several cases where someone was having 'fun', as you call it, and has been successfully brought to court and put in jail.
Now, many might think that they are untouchable on the internet, or in an MMO, but reality shows that people are not. I know of several cases here in Europe, where people have been sentenced to jail for having your kind of 'fun'.
Actually, I would not be surprized if CCP, providing the platform, really has to think carefully about how they are going to deal with this one, since if they do not act appropriately, they might be in a tough spot as well.
See, tough talk aside, it really is not fun to end up in jail for being stupid. Someone thinking they are pulling a 'cool joke' that on one hand could potentially lead to someone's death, and on the other hand would have the 'joker' end up in jail. I don't think either case would be desirable. After all, who would want to spend his life in jail, right?
Let's be real. We play a game, and we play it to have fun. Some of us in a morbid way, but within certain limits. Encouraging someone to kill himself, I would say (and so do many judges in the world obviously) crosses that line. See, you might call it 'fun', but obviously those that get to decide whether it is fun or not, do not seem to agree with you.
Oh well, I for sure am curious to see how this is going to develop. Even though I am not holding my breath for anything spectacular. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
343
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:48:00 -
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Kallynda Nai wrote:Right next to your sarcasm detector, apparently.
Sorry, so much stupid in these forums that I keep mistaking honorable Sarcasm and Goodposts for the mewling from festering pubbie morons. My sincere apologies. |
baltec1
868
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:51:00 -
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Anghus McKay wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Anghus McKay wrote: And what makes you think these kind of laws only exist in the US?
There are no laws about making fun of stupid people in any country. You're missing my point.
And you are missing the fact that nothing in the alliance panel should be taken seriously. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
343
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:53:00 -
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IT's only serious business when Mittani does it.
Mittani could fart someplace and there would be 8 threads from idiot sockpuppets demanding he resign and be banned for pollution. |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
527
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:56:00 -
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Xython wrote:IT's only serious business when Mittani does it.
Mittani could fart someplace and there would be 8 threads from idiot sockpuppets demanding he resign and be banned for pollution.
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Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:58:00 -
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Cindy Marco wrote:Sounds like a CYA statement.
If they were actually concerned they would have done something about it.
CCP doesn't care about harassment, at least they never have in the past. Its only an issue now because they might get some bad publicity.
It is the bad publicity which may, in the end, finish mittens. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2297
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:59:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Cindy Marco wrote:Sounds like a CYA statement.
If they were actually concerned they would have done something about it.
CCP doesn't care about harassment, at least they never have in the past. Its only an issue now because they might get some bad publicity. It is the bad publicity which may, in the end, finish mittens.
I doubt he cares about bad publicity from random NPC corp alt pubbies.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
1174
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:00:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Cindy Marco wrote:Sounds like a CYA statement.
If they were actually concerned they would have done something about it.
CCP doesn't care about harassment, at least they never have in the past. Its only an issue now because they might get some bad publicity. It is the bad publicity which may, in the end, finish mittens. I doubt he cares about bad publicity from random NPC corp alt pubbies.
yeah but 8000 of his votes were from random NPC corp alt pubbies... ok, probably not the pubbies part.
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2297
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:01:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote: ok, probably not the pubbies part. -Liang
That's the important part v0v
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
184
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:02:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Cindy Marco wrote:Sounds like a CYA statement.
If they were actually concerned they would have done something about it.
CCP doesn't care about harassment, at least they never have in the past. Its only an issue now because they might get some bad publicity. It is the bad publicity which may, in the end, finish mittens. I doubt he cares about bad publicity from random NPC corp alt pubbies.
So what about SONY? |
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Silas Kautsuo
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:03:00 -
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Marius Duvall wrote:Frankly, the idiot threatening suicide over internet pixels should disgust you more.
No, it's definitely degenerates like you that disgust me more, and that self obsessed sack of pond life calling himself the Mittani.
I'm thinking of attending fanfest next year to publicly ridicule the cretin and incite others to do so, see how he likes it.
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Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:05:00 -
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I have posted before that I think the Goons do a lot to improve Eve gameplay.
Ladie, if you were a litle bit smarter you would realize that I am referring to the bad publicity all this is getting from outside the game which may may make The Mittani offer his resignation as Chairman of the CSM.
There again, you are well known for posting far more often than you make sense. |
Rogan Otsolen
The 22nd Jenquai Deep Space Corp Checkmate.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:08:00 -
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Disgust sums it up quite nicely.
Last I checked cyber bullying is against the law.
Prehaps he should keep that in mind. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2300
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:10:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Cindy Marco wrote:Sounds like a CYA statement.
If they were actually concerned they would have done something about it.
CCP doesn't care about harassment, at least they never have in the past. Its only an issue now because they might get some bad publicity. It is the bad publicity which may, in the end, finish mittens. I doubt he cares about bad publicity from random NPC corp alt pubbies. So what about SONY?
Sony cares even less.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2300
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:11:00 -
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Rogan Otsolen wrote:Disgust sums it up quite nicely.
Last I checked cyber bullying is against the law.
Prehaps he should keep that in mind.
Luckily he didn't 'cyber bully' anybody.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2300
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:11:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I have posted before that I think the Goons do a lot to improve Eve gameplay.
Ladie, if you were a litle bit smarter you would realize that I am referring to the bad publicity all this is getting from outside the game which may may make The Mittani offer his resignation as Chairman of the CSM.
There again, you are well known for posting far more often than you make sense.
The only publicity I'm seeing is a bunch of different gaming sites copying and pasting the same unsourced, unverified story.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
603
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:13:00 -
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All of you feeling sorry for somebody who wants to kill themselves are sheep.
Killing yourself is the single greatest act of cowardice you can commit, even considering it makes you literally the the most useless human on earth, when there are people who suffer through insurmountable odds, the greatest tragedies that life can offer, and still manage to somehow get up every morning without ending themselves.
Suicidal thoughts should literally be met with scorn and ridicule at every possible chance, because if you've reached that point, then the world as a whole is better off with your genes removed from the pool. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1355
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:14:00 -
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Man...I have seen Ladie Harlot post more today than the whole past month combined. Probably a good thing I have her blocked. Usually just mindless dribble and Mittani worship spewing out ...am I right? EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Rogan Otsolen
The 22nd Jenquai Deep Space Corp Checkmate.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:14:00 -
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I do truly wonder if you beleive half the **** you're saying.
Grath Telkin wrote:All of you feeling sorry for somebody who wants to kill themselves are sheep.
Killing yourself is the single greatest act of cowardice you can commit, even considering it makes you literally the the most useless human on earth, when there are people who suffer through insurmountable odds, the greatest tragedies that life can offer, and still manage to somehow get up every morning without ending themselves.
Suicidal thoughts should literally be met with scorn and ridicule at every possible chance, because if you've reached that point, then the world as a whole is better off with your genes removed from the pool.
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Mors Magne
Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing
15
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:15:00 -
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This is a public relations disaster for CCP.
They must permanently ban Alexander Gianturco (Mittani) - CCP need to send a strong message. |
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