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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
603
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:50:00 -
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Sarcoteo wrote: So, what's next? You will tell us that poor people, the infirm and minorities should be prosecuted too because they can do no better?
I can if you want me to:
Most poor people are poor because of personal habbits such as drug use and poor life choices, I have literally no pity on them
Every country is moving to a more socialist program where healthcare is concerned, I don't support socialism.
Minorities don't exist anymore, the world is blending together, stop being such a racist.
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2320
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:51:00 -
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Wacky'Waving Inflatable Tube'Man wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:There's a lot of "I'm not a lawyer but let me tell you about the law" itt so? you don't like, gtfo
Who says I didn't like it? I enjoy posting in pubbie tear threads.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
baltec1
871
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:51:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:baltec1 wrote:This is a public relations disaster for CCP. actually its a huge PR win. CCP gets tons of free publicity over this... Was collumbine a PR disaster for KMFDM or Manson? no. KMFDM especially got huge profits from the publicity.
Wait, when did I say that? |
Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
1176
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:53:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:There's a lot of "I'm not a lawyer but let me tell you about the law" itt
Most cyber bullying laws in the US appear centered around schoolkids: www.cyberbullying.us/Bullying_and_Cyberbullying_Laws.pdf
I very seriously doubt its against the law. Furthermore, from the "victim" in question: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/571748/
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Wacky'Waving Inflatable Tube'Man
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:54:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Wacky'Waving Inflatable Tube'Man wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:There's a lot of "I'm not a lawyer but let me tell you about the law" itt so? you don't like, gtfo Who says I didn't like it? I enjoy posting in pubbie tear threads.
seems more like you have a compulsive need to respond to every post you don't like. but whatever, that's cool. the world needs more gordo granudos. |
Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
416
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:56:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Wait, when did I say that? oopsies, sorry bout that. i meant to quote the other guy. fixed. "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2336
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:57:00 -
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Wacky'Waving Inflatable Tube'Man wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Wacky'Waving Inflatable Tube'Man wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:There's a lot of "I'm not a lawyer but let me tell you about the law" itt so? you don't like, gtfo Who says I didn't like it? I enjoy posting in pubbie tear threads. seems more like you have a compulsive need to respond to every post you don't like.
Just the ones that contain false information.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:58:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Rogan Otsolen wrote:
I do truly wonder if you beleive half the **** you're saying.
I could prove it to you, but unlike the douchebag that wanted to kill himself over a video game, I'll go ahead and keep my personal life out of a video game and just tell you that yes, I actually believe that thinking about killing yourself makes you literally a waste of sperm. Life is hard, sometimes it sucks, sometimes, your island gets rocked by an earthquake that kills millions, sometimes you get hit by a Tsunami, or you have a dictator for a leader who kills your family in some demonstration of his power. If you have a computer, a home, and the internet to play games from, your life is not that bad (and far better off than the people i gave examples of) and you are just basically a big drama queen looking for attention, and anybody that feeds you that attention just reinforces the fact that acting like a drama queen gets you attention.
When you reach the age of 15 or so, you will feel so foolish when folk you know remind you what you said in this post. |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
605
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:00:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote: When you reach the age of 15 or so, you will feel so foolish when folk you know remind you what you said in this post.
I'm a married father of 4 and grandfather of 1.
Suicide still makes you a *****. |
Sarcoteo
Iron Workers
0
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:03:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote: When you reach the age of 15 or so, you will feel so foolish when folk you know remind you what you said in this post.
I'm a married father of 4 and grandfather of 1. Suicide still makes you a *****.
Jackpot! |
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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
359
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:03:00 -
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Sarcoteo wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:There's a lot of "I'm not a lawyer but let me tell you about the law" itt It's not about law but ethics, know what that is?
Ethics? In an Internet Spaceship game?
Hahahahaha! Adorable pubbies. |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:07:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote: When you reach the age of 15 or so, you will feel so foolish when folk you know remind you what you said in this post.
I'm a married father of 4 and grandfather of 1. Suicide still makes you a *****.
My apologies, I meant mental age. |
Kimmiy Kimasre
University of Caille Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:08:00 -
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Xython wrote:Sarcoteo wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:There's a lot of "I'm not a lawyer but let me tell you about the law" itt It's not about law but ethics, know what that is? Ethics? In an Internet Spaceship game? Hahahahaha! Adorable pubbies.
The problem here is what was said outside of the game, if you hadn't noticed. The original in-game actions, while detestable, were still at least a private matter. Now this is very public.
This is not about the person's threat to commit suicide because of what happened in the game, this is about Mittani's response and his behavior in a public forum run by CCP. |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
606
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:08:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote: When you reach the age of 15 or so, you will feel so foolish when folk you know remind you what you said in this post.
I'm a married father of 4 and grandfather of 1. Suicide still makes you a *****. My apologies, I meant mental age.
Right, because not taking pity on cowardly oxygen sponges somehow makes me immature.
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Chokichi Ozuwara
Lucky Dragon Convenience
28
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:08:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:Well, i guess we have a fuckton of people to ban in Crime+Punishment forum. I could probably find a couple hundred people telling others to kill themselves in about an hour. That's up to CCP to enforce the EULA. But no one should cry foul play for Mittens if he did violate the EULA. He's a lawyer, he knows this. [quote=Terminal Insanity]If he needs help with his depression then he should find support for that. A violent PVP videogame is not where you go to talk about your depression. Your opinion is irrelevant to the facts. The facts are, there is a EULA, and it covers harassment. The questions are, (1) will CCP find the Mittani was harassing, and (2) if so, will they act within the EULA.
That's really all that matters. What you or I think of this guy is completely irrelevant, and I have no idea why you keep ranting in this thread, since again, your opinion means nothing to the outcome.
Start a corp and do it yourself. You'll fail, but you'll enjoy failing. Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
Sarcoteo
Iron Workers
1
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:09:00 -
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Xython wrote:Sarcoteo wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:There's a lot of "I'm not a lawyer but let me tell you about the law" itt It's not about law but ethics, know what that is? Ethics? In an Internet Spaceship game? Hahahahaha! Adorable pubbies.
The investigation launched by CCP isn't about spaceships, is it? |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:12:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote: When you reach the age of 15 or so, you will feel so foolish when folk you know remind you what you said in this post.
I'm a married father of 4 and grandfather of 1. Suicide still makes you a *****. My apologies, I meant mental age. Right, because not taking pity on cowardly oxygen sponges somehow makes me immature.
You are learning. Well done.
Oh, and I beat you on the grandfather score by one.
Man, how did I get to be so old so quickly? |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
632
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:13:00 -
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Xython wrote:Sarcoteo wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:There's a lot of "I'm not a lawyer but let me tell you about the law" itt It's not about law but ethics, know what that is? Ethics? In an Internet Spaceship game? Hahahahaha! Adorable pubbies.
are you stupid or what? try to seperate game from RL. a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2350
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:14:00 -
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Sarcoteo wrote:Xython wrote:Sarcoteo wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:There's a lot of "I'm not a lawyer but let me tell you about the law" itt It's not about law but ethics, know what that is? Ethics? In an Internet Spaceship game? Hahahahaha! Adorable pubbies. The investigation launched by CCP isn't about spaceships, is it?
What investigation? You mean you believed the single unsourced, unverified story that's been copied and pasted to a bunch of gaming sites?
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2352
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:15:00 -
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Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:Well, i guess we have a fuckton of people to ban in Crime+Punishment forum. I could probably find a couple hundred people telling others to kill themselves in about an hour. That's up to CCP to enforce the EULA. But no one should cry foul play for Mittens if he did violate the EULA. He's a lawyer, he knows this. [quote=Terminal Insanity]If he needs help with his depression then he should find support for that. A violent PVP videogame is not where you go to talk about your depression. Your opinion is irrelevant to the facts. The facts are, there is a EULA, and it covers harassment. The questions are, (1) will CCP find the Mittani was harassing, and (2) if so, will they act within the EULA. That's really all that matters. What you or I think of this guy is completely irrelevant, and I have no idea why you keep ranting in this thread, since again, your opinion means nothing to the outcome.
Well then what is all the whining about? There was no EULA violation.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
606
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:17:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote: When you reach the age of 15 or so, you will feel so foolish when folk you know remind you what you said in this post.
I'm a married father of 4 and grandfather of 1. Suicide still makes you a *****. My apologies, I meant mental age. Right, because not taking pity on cowardly oxygen sponges somehow makes me immature. You are learning. Well done. Oh, and I beat you on the grandfather score by one. Man, how did I get to be so old so quickly?
Blame the woman, she tricked you.
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Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics Bringers of Death.
649
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:20:00 -
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If Mittens gave out the guy's personal information and encouraged people to harass him in real life, then I have no problem with CCP banning him. I saw it, but I didn't hear the guy's name (wasn't listening to it carefully). So I'm just going by what people are saying.
He went too far and he's not off limits for punishment. |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
606
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:25:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:If Mittens gave out the guy's personal information and encouraged people to harass him in real life, then I have no problem with CCP banning him. I saw it, but I didn't hear the guy's name (wasn't listening to it carefully). So I'm just going by what people are saying.
He went too far and he's not off limits for punishment.
This is the part thats misunderstood:
He gave out his INGAME name, not his real name, his IN GAME FICTIONAL AVATARS NAME.
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Lindt Elgorriaga
Chocolate latex and leather Social Club
6
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:25:00 -
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If such a "mistake" carries consequences... After Many years of successfull trolling and social (cheap) engineering to attract unbrained internet games wannabees ..yeah! it would be so hilarious I think that wouldn't happen, for so various and kown reasons, and after all, it's funny to see the blind obedience , the nonsense trolling defense, the "wave" effect... and some ingenuity in the troll art and manipulation (not this case, it's so bad taste. maybe mit is exhausting resources??)
-Take a chocolate, relax you...
Don't consider chocolate as a substitute of sex, consider it as a different pleasure... ...but that won't prevent you from being a pervert |
Lindt Elgorriaga
Chocolate latex and leather Social Club
6
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:29:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Sarcoteo wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:There's a lot of "I'm not a lawyer but let me tell you about the law" itt It's not about law but ethics, know what that is? There's nothing unethical about making fun of stupid people.
You must lol so much looking at the mirror, do you?
Don't consider chocolate as a substitute of sex, consider it as a different pleasure... ...but that won't prevent you from being a pervert |
baltec1
875
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:35:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:If Mittens gave out the guy's personal information and encouraged people to harass him in real life, then I have no problem with CCP banning him. I saw it, but I didn't hear the guy's name (wasn't listening to it carefully). So I'm just going by what people are saying.
He went too far and he's not off limits for punishment.
No personal info was given and a (bad) joke was made when someone requested the in game name. If anyone is stupid enough to acctually send mails to the guy then they are the ones who should be banned.
This is a whole lotta fuss over nothing. |
Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics Bringers of Death.
651
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:37:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:
This is the part thats misunderstood:
He gave out his INGAME name, not his real name, his IN GAME FICTIONAL AVATARS NAME.
Not quite as bad, but encouraging people to try to get someone to commit suicide probably isn't going to go unpunished, and I don't think it should. Maybe you don't ban him from the game, but boot him from the CSM and from future Fanfest events.
No one should be surprised if Mittens turns out to be his own downfall. I predicted that when he first joined the CSM. People like him always let perceived influence get to their heads, feel invulnerable, go too far and crash in flames.
Now that the story has legs, I think the likelihood that Mittens escapes punishment of some sort is about zero regardless of anyone's opinion though. |
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
283
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:37:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Jada Maroo wrote:If Mittens gave out the guy's personal information and encouraged people to harass him in real life, then I have no problem with CCP banning him. I saw it, but I didn't hear the guy's name (wasn't listening to it carefully). So I'm just going by what people are saying.
He went too far and he's not off limits for punishment. This is the part thats misunderstood: He gave out his INGAME name, not his real name, his IN GAME FICTIONAL AVATARS NAME.
He still acted wrongly by inviting other players to contact him and further harass. He could have left it at a joke by not doing this and it would have been amusing, tears usually are. By giving others the means to continue the ridicule he made a bad decision. What happens is up to CCP but it does look bad for them now unfortunately. WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
baltec1
876
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:41:00 -
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Serge Bastana wrote:
He still acted wrongly by inviting other players to contact him and further harass. He could have left it at a joke by not doing this and it would have been amusing, tears usually are. By giving others the means to continue the ridicule he made a bad decision. What happens is up to CCP but it does look bad for them now unfortunately.
Anyone who did not see this as a joke and have started to actually spam this guy deserve to be banned for stupidity. |
Cyclar
Rustbucket Industries
8
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:43:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Sarcoteo wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:There's a lot of "I'm not a lawyer but let me tell you about the law" itt It's not about law but ethics, know what that is? There's nothing unethical about making fun of stupid people.
Ladie Harlot, you are not very good at damage control. Maybe Mittani should put a leash on you before this completely spins out control.
What he did was just plain wrong. Even if suicide threats wasn't involved, what he did was just plain wrong. There are no two ways about.
And this really makes CCP look bad, even though it is not their fault. And all their options suck. They can punish Mittani, witch they should, risking having thousand of goons on their back. Or they can ignore it, and risk having a potential public relations disaster on they hands. Mittani has simply put CCP in a bad situation.
Mittani could easily remedy this and put an end to it by simply appoligizing. A simple statement like for example "Im sorry, i had a bit to much to drink. My comments at the Alliance Panel where unappropiate and out of order." Not .
And my guess is that CCP will force him to do so (he is simply to arrogant to admit it himself), to put an end to this mess. You just wait and see. |
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