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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1375
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:07:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:I'm not throwing anyone under the bus, I'm responding to the players that elected me to take a stand. And that only a few other of the CSM feels a need to provide the same player representation is puzzling. To stay quiet and worry about "the message" behind closed doors is exactly what the players fear about the CSM's lack of transparency to the players. Michelle, might I suggest that the best way you could be of service to the players is to get your NDA signed so we can get you on skype and explain what is going on? I do not think it is unreasonable for us to take a collective breath and take a day or two to decide on the best course of action, and that decision is one that you should be involved in. Best Trebor
My NDA is on place, has been for years. I've posted my last post in my position.
I should be on Skype this evening.
Issler |
Della Monk
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
6
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:10:00 -
[182] - Quote
Issler Dainze wrote:I'm pretty sure when the players in multiple threads in general asked what the CSM thought of the incident they expected an answer in the forums, not in a private Skype channel.
Nah, I expected to hear they were discussing it and for a collective response to come shortly after. You know, like CSM6 did to great effect. Keeping track of all you politikers is too much effort |
Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:23:00 -
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Della Monk wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:I'm pretty sure when the players in multiple threads in general asked what the CSM thought of the incident they expected an answer in the forums, not in a private Skype channel. Nah, I expected to hear they were discussing it and for a collective response to come shortly after. You know, like CSM6 did to great effect. Keeping track of all you politikers is too much effort Why bother present a unified front? Michelle here obviously feels she can take the reigns and charge ahead without any concern for Alex or the rest of the CSM. You people elected this emotionally unstable child. Congrats~ |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
428
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:31:00 -
[184] - Quote
Issler Dainze wrote:I'm pretty sure when the players in multiple threads in general asked what the CSM thought of the incident they expected an answer in the forums, not in a private Skype channel. Sorry, but this didn't need a hive mind meeting to come up with a cleverly crafted collective message. The rest of the CSM staying quiet is what is damaging the CSM. Ask yourself what your message from your silence is to the people the elected you. Even if the other CSM members had share something as simple as "Yes, it seems as though many found the action offensive we are happy to see Mittens has offered an apology in the forums and we are working with CCP to make sure the best interests of the players and Eve in general are the focus of whatever action results from their investigation." you would have been better than trying to focus this on me because I responded to the players and took a stand. I've said what I needed to say. I hope the other CSM will now give the players what they deserve when they elected you. As for Skype and not talking to you, not really an option while I'm at work, sorry. I'll be on soon enough, can't wait for that. Issler
1. I think the players deserve more than knee jerk reactions, or in your case gleeful political dog piling, when they ask us for answers on this or any issue.
2. The CSM has not been quiet, we just haven't been trying to start up a mob with a megaphone.
3. That's pretty much exactly what my post said. It's good to know that not only do you lack the respect for the CSM to talk to your colleague before you publicly ask for his resignation or talk to any of us directly as opposed to public flame posting, but you lack the fundamental respect for us, the CSM, and the players to actually read what we say to you in public (the only manner in which you will communicate at all).
4. I believe the players deserve a lot better than what you're giving them. Never before has any CSM acted like this office was the place to launch a 24/7/365 reelection campaign, nor so thoroughly and transparently tried to advance their personal aggrandizement by bull-dogging a fellow CSM member who is doing everything he can do make thing right after an unfortunate mistake.
5. Your actions are insulting to me, insulting to the other CSMs, insulting to the institution of the CSM, and a fundamental failure of your primary duty to serve the interests of the players and the game. Frankly, it is absolutely disgusting and I am both very surprised and very disappointed to have to say that about you. Unlike you, however, I plan on waiting till I CAN talk to you privately before doing something like calling for your resignation. www.noirmercs.com Now Recruiting CSM7, CSM 4 |
Ajita al Tchar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
164
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:34:00 -
[185] - Quote
I make most of my EVE spacebucks via industry and as such I'm pretty interested in industry-related stuff being much improved upon (including high sec mining though it's not something I do myself, but I do benefit from it not going the way of the dodo). That said, I'm sorry, Issler, but I'm very happy I gave my votes to the person I gave my votes to and not you after reading all you've written during this whole CSM-Mittani debacle. My reasons are pretty simple. One can have tons of great ideas and generally be a pretty smart cookie, but if they have no political acumen, they can do more harm than good by getting involved in politics, and probably watch their ideas go up in smoke. This is precisely the reason why I think Mittani should stay in the CSM, he's pretty good at this politics thing and can lead an effective council that helps get good things done. If you end up with a reputation of being a ranty crazy high sec carebear miner, your ideas might end up marked as not so good despite their actual merit, just by association.
But maybe I'm just being callous by being pretty convinced that booting Mittani would be a mistake. I do have firsthand experience with depression and suicidal impulses and quite literally start every day with medication that keeps me from going over the edge, but even this doesn't change my opinion since I, for one, would like to see an effective CSM 7. |
knobber Jobbler
Seniors Clan Get Off My Lawn
97
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:34:00 -
[186] - Quote
Issler Dainze wrote:I'm pretty sure when the players in multiple threads in general asked what the CSM thought of the incident they expected an answer in the forums, not in a private Skype channel. Sorry, but this didn't need a hive mind meeting to come up with a cleverly crafted collective message. The rest of the CSM staying quiet is what is damaging the CSM. Ask yourself what your message from your silence is to the people the elected you. Even if the other CSM members had share something as simple as "Yes, it seems as though many found the action offensive we are happy to see Mittens has offered an apology in the forums and we are working with CCP to make sure the best interests of the players and Eve in general are the focus of whatever action results from their investigation." you would have been better than trying to focus this on me because I responded to the players and took a stand. I've said what I needed to say. I hope the other CSM will now give the players what they deserve when they elected you. As for Skype and not talking to you, not really an option while I'm at work, sorry. I'll be on soon enough, can't wait for that. Issler
You're damaging it. You're 1 step away from Darius right now.
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1566
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:34:00 -
[187] - Quote
Lets keep a sense of perspective here. Issler Dainze is not the person who has currently dragged the reputation of both the CSM chair and the wider Eve community through the mud in the eyes of the gaming press and ruined what should have been a clean sweep of good coverage following an exceptional fanfest.
And if this CSM starts looking like a playground gang seeking to give Issler a kicking because its become upset that the golden boy Mittani has become unsupportable as chair, then its going to have next to zero credibility going forwards.
I'm happy that CSM takes some time to formulate a collective positive on who should be the next chair and how to announce Alexander Gianturco's resignation - I'm less happy to see the rather pathetic and florid displays of sychopantic bleating issued on several threads today from pretty gutless CSM's bleating out pledges of eternal loyality to the "great leader" despite the grevious errors of judgement and behaviour he has recently displayed.
And some clue for those without a clue.
The approach that CSM 6 in terms of "collective presentation" was not universally appreciated. A lot of players wanted to see who believed what and who had argued for which policy and idea. Having Mittens as the frontman to a shadowy council of collective decision-making without us getting to see the votes and breakdown of the arguments looked quite dodgy on some levels. This discontent was apparent with the reveal of the winter minutes you might remember.
Don't make the mistake of believing the Mittani approach was very popular with eve at large. Plenty of people want to see more transparency and to see for ourselves that work is actually being done and decisions made by genuine discussion and honest process.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
43
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:39:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Lets keep a sense of perspective here. You are reading a Jade Constantine post, and I am only marginally better than Issler on my best of days.
hey i thought i would fix this for you |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
219
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:40:00 -
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Jade you are generally regarded as the worst CSM chairman and it is generally accepted every idea you had on how to run the CSM was wrong, why do you feel your input is useful here. |
Blake Zacary
Nobilium Coalition Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
8
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:43:00 -
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Seleene wrote:Blake Zacary wrote:Seleene wrote:Vile rat wrote: You see Issler that's the problem. You are coming from a CSM time (CSM 3) where events were formal, people had meetings that accomplished little, and the entire thing was one big crowd facing publicity stunt for the people involved. Before you even have sat down to work with the other members you've already taken a stand that you're going to do your best to make a lot of political hay out of attacking one of them. I'd take some time to work with the other people first before you try to pull this ****. I'm going to +1 this for a couple reasons: The last CSM was very effective because we worked hard to stay in touch and not get publicly combative and look dysfunctional. Issler, you should probably sort out your NDA and get into Skype with the rest of us. We obviously have an issue to resolve but this isn't the way to go about it. Hell, some of us are asleep, just waking up or even still in Iceland. I have to disagree with this.This isn't an ingame matter or something covered with the NDA,this was a real life mistake that even Alex said he feels absolutely ashamed about. I'm sure I'm not the only voter who is curious as to what each individual CSM rep thinks about this.This isn't the time to go into your CSM channels and work out some joint damage control.This is one of those times where people have to stand up and be counted as individuals and not hide behind a collective ! No one is hiding behind anything, m8. But, as I said before, the CSM is a group of people and we've worked hard to not just REACT to things. Mittens / Alex did something really dumb and I've no doubt there will be consequenses. I'm not asking anyone to 'just react' to it,what I would like to see is open,honest and clear opinions from individual CSM reps.What I don't think is good for the CSM is closing ranks and keeping things secret till you release a joint blanket statement,which is what appears to be happening !
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Kallynda Nai
Tightpants Inc
26
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:44:00 -
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Who voted for this idiot, honestly? |
Revolution Rising
Gentlemen of Better Ilk
160
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:44:00 -
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Blake Zacary wrote:No one is hiding behind anything, m8. But, as I said before, the CSM is a group of people and we've worked hard to not just REACT to things. Mittens / Alex did something really dumb and I've no doubt there will be consequenses. I'm not asking anyone to 'just react' to it,what I would like to see is open,honest and clear opinions from individual CSM reps.What I don't think is good for the CSM is closing ranks and keeping things secret till you release a joint blanket statement,which is what appears to be happening !
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^^ This.
What happened was a matter of personal degredation and it happaned because of a lack of character by the CSM Chair.
Now what people are wondering is ... are the rest of them like that?
Closing ranks and issuing a joint statement says "yes".
My EVE YouTube Channel |
Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
44
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:47:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Lets keep a sense of perspective here. Issler Dainze is not the person who has currently dragged the reputation of both the CSM chair and the wider Eve community through the mud in the eyes of the gaming press and ruined what should have been a clean sweep of good coverage following an exceptional fanfest.
And if this CSM starts looking like a playground gang seeking to give Issler a kicking because its become upset that the golden boy Mittani has become unsupportable as chair, then its going to have next to zero credibility going forwards.
I'm happy that CSM takes some time to formulate a collective positive on who should be the next chair and how to announce Alexander Gianturco's resignation - I'm less happy to see the rather pathetic and florid displays of sychopantic bleating issued on several threads today from pretty gutless CSM's mewling out mealy mouthed pledges of eternal loyality to the "great leader" despite the grevious errors of judgement and behaviour he has recently displayed.
And some clue for those without a clue.
The approach that CSM 6 in terms of "collective presentation" was not universally appreciated. A lot of players wanted to see who believed what and who had argued for which policy and idea. Having Mittens as the frontman to a shadowy council of collective decision-making without us getting to see the votes and breakdown of the arguments looked quite dodgy on some levels. This discontent was apparent with the reveal of the winter minutes you might remember.
Don't make the mistake of believing the Mittani approach was very popular with eve at large. Plenty of people want to see more transparency and to see for ourselves that work is actually being done and decisions made by genuine discussion and honest process.
Retar Aveymone wrote:Jade you are generally regarded as the worst CSM chairman and it is generally accepted every idea you had on how to run the CSM was wrong, why do you feel your input is useful here.
i cant even figure out what the hell hes really even on about
apparently 'the people' are up in arms about something stupid said by a drunk that got posted on a blog and blah blah transparency and something something pro-mittani csm conspiracy
e: this is not a fake post, i sincerely dont get it
also, snype |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1571
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:48:00 -
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Retar Aveymone wrote:Jade you are generally regarded as the worst CSM chairman and it is generally accepted every idea you had on how to run the CSM was wrong, why do you feel your input is useful here.
Because pretty much everything I advocated on the CSM is already in the game or about to arrive, because under my chairmanship Eve online had excellent press coverage in the gaming press and mainstream media from New York to London and Paris, because I managed to keep my dignity and temper and didn't get righteously drunk on stage at fanfest and embarrass myself and every decent player of this game by coughing out cod-sadistic nonsense and calling on my fellow players to be trolled into suicide.
Plus I had the good grace to give the next guy a go when my term was up rather than trying to cling on to power like some kind of monomaniac limpet-brained bloodsucker with an desperate need to be loved and feared in equal measure.
That about covers it
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
18
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:49:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Lets keep a sense of perspective here. Issler Dainze is not the person who has currently dragged the reputation of both the CSM chair and the wider Eve community through the mud in the eyes of the gaming press and ruined what should have been a clean sweep of good coverage following an exceptional fanfest. She has, however, fanned the flames of a volatile issue for her own perceived political gain. Rather than work with a team and possibly post a dissenting opinion after the fact, or even stress to her team the need for individual opinions, she goes off half-cocked without even discussing the matter with The Mittani himself. The lack of respect she has shown to her fellow CSM members in this thread convinces me she is not at all suitable for the post. I'm ******* terrible at EVE.
"Fun fact: carebears are not necessary for the game to function." --áTippia |
Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
44
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:49:00 -
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Revolution Rising wrote:Blake Zacary wrote:I'm not asking anyone to 'just react' to it,what I would like to see is open,honest and clear opinions from individual CSM reps.What I don't think is good for the CSM is closing ranks and keeping things secret till you release a joint blanket statement,which is what appears to be happening !
^^ This. What happened was a matter of personal degredation and it happaned because of a lack of character by the CSM Chair. Now what people are wondering is ... are the rest of them like that? Closing ranks and issuing a joint statement says "yes".
and i would like to propose a much deeper queston, on the assumption that everything in your post is 100% correct
so what? |
Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
44
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:50:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:Jade you are generally regarded as the worst CSM chairman and it is generally accepted every idea you had on how to run the CSM was wrong, why do you feel your input is useful here. Because pretty much everything I advocated on the CSM is already in the game or about to arrive, because under my chairmanship Eve online had excellent press coverage in the gaming press and mainstream media from New York to London and Paris, because I managed to keep my dignity and temper and didn't get righteously drunk on stage at fanfest and embarrass myself and every decent player of this game by coughing out cod-sadistic nonsense and calling on my fellow players to be trolled into suicide. Plus I had the good grace to give the next guy a go when my term was up rather than trying to cling on to power like some kind of monomaniac limpet-brained bloodsucker with an desperate need to be loved and feared in equal measure. That about covers it
having 10,000 votes is not 'clinging to power' |
D Derp
xXxSePhIrOtHSSJ420xXx W33D4LYFE Fanclub
17
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:54:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:Jade you are generally regarded as the worst CSM chairman and it is generally accepted every idea you had on how to run the CSM was wrong, why do you feel your input is useful here. Because pretty much everything I advocated on the CSM is already in the game or about to arrive, because under my chairmanship Eve online had excellent press coverage in the gaming press and mainstream media from New York to London and Paris, because I managed to keep my dignity and temper and didn't get righteously drunk on stage at fanfest and embarrass myself and every decent player of this game by coughing out cod-sadistic nonsense and calling on my fellow players to be trolled into suicide. Plus I had the good grace to give the next guy a go when my term was up rather than trying to cling on to power like some kind of monomaniac limpet-brained bloodsucker with an desperate need to be loved and feared in equal measure. That about covers it
Can you please stop trying to fluff up bad ideas and bad posting by being overly verbose and using terrible metaphors like "monomaniac limpet-brained bloodsucker"? It doesn't impress anyone.
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1571
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:55:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Lets keep a sense of perspective here. Issler Dainze is not the person who has currently dragged the reputation of both the CSM chair and the wider Eve community through the mud in the eyes of the gaming press and ruined what should have been a clean sweep of good coverage following an exceptional fanfest. She has, however, fanned the flames of a volatile issue for her own perceived political gain. Rather than work with a team and possibly post a dissenting opinion after the fact, or even stress to her team the need for individual opinions, she goes off half-cocked without even discussing the matter with The Mittani himself. The lack of respect she has shown to her fellow CSM members in this thread convinces me she is not at all suitable for the post.
In any rational assessment the Mittani (Alexander Gianturco) is finished as CSM chair. I imagine at this point he's literally holding his head in his hands and talking to his wife about whether he can even afford to continue being associated with the game of eve online after his performance at fanfest. The quite literal professional "suicide" he committed there IS that bad.
As for Issler she looks like being scapegoated at the moment. Understand, I didn't vote for her, I didn't much like her policies. But she is trying to push an agenda of personal responsibility from the current CSM team where we get to see what each of them actually *think* about this crisis rather than disappearing behind a magic curtain and letting the "wizard" tell us how its going to be.
Sure she could probably be handling it better, could have waited to say something, could have done skype from a laptop or something, could be in coms somehow whatever. But I do get the impression she is at least in tune with the understanding a lot of us have about how far off message into the hinterlands of lunacy the current CSM chair has gone.
Other CSM's seem to closing ranks and trying to laugh it off and tell us how it doesn't matter because the mining barge guy didn't actually die - but that is so not the point.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Revolution Rising
Gentlemen of Better Ilk
162
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:56:00 -
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Sir Marksalot wrote:
and i would like to propose a much deeper queston, on the assumption that everything in your post is 100% correct
so what?
You're right, I guess we'll go back to being indifferent about CSM - after all, what's the point right ?
My EVE YouTube Channel |
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
219
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:56:00 -
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much like jade needed to fluff up his avatar for his space brothel to hide his hideous self he needs to fluff up his posting to hide its hideous ideas |
michaelthered
The Logistical Nightmare
3
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:56:00 -
[202] - Quote
Retar Aveymone wrote:michaelthered wrote: I know the person who the apology was sent to personally.....and no the apology didn't "cut it". lawls
no you don't
actually I do. ANd not just since fanfest happened..... |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
220
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:58:00 -
[203] - Quote
no you really don't and nobody is going to believe you |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
220
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:58:00 -
[204] - Quote
like come on put a little effort into your fakeposting |
thatboydc
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:00:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
every time i think that the pubbies on GOONFLEET DOT COM are terrible posters i somehow find one of your posts and jesus christ you make thunderwaffe look like OG SA posters
i mean seriously you are terrible your posts are terrible and you should feel terrible |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
220
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:01:00 -
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yes lets all ask the creepy looking aspie who ran a space brothel about normal human behavior this is sure to generate useful information
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D Derp
xXxSePhIrOtHSSJ420xXx W33D4LYFE Fanclub
17
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:03:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Karl Hobb wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Lets keep a sense of perspective here. Issler Dainze is not the person who has currently dragged the reputation of both the CSM chair and the wider Eve community through the mud in the eyes of the gaming press and ruined what should have been a clean sweep of good coverage following an exceptional fanfest. She has, however, fanned the flames of a volatile issue for her own perceived political gain. Rather than work with a team and possibly post a dissenting opinion after the fact, or even stress to her team the need for individual opinions, she goes off half-cocked without even discussing the matter with The Mittani himself. The lack of respect she has shown to her fellow CSM members in this thread convinces me she is not at all suitable for the post. In any rational assessment the Mittani (Alexander Gianturco) is finished as CSM chair. I imagine at this point he's literally holding his head in his hands and talking to his wife about whether he can even afford to continue being associated with the game of eve online after his performance at fanfest. The quite literal professional "suicide" he committed there IS that bad. As for Issler she looks like being scapegoated at the moment. Understand, I didn't vote for her, I didn't much like her policies. But she is trying to push an agenda of personal responsibility from the current CSM team where we get to see what each of them actually *think* about this crisis rather than disappearing behind a magic curtain and letting the "wizard" tell us how its going to be. Sure she could probably be handling it better, could have waited to say something, could have done skype from a laptop or something, could be in coms somehow whatever. But I do get the impression she is at least in tune with the understanding a lot of us have about how far off message into the hinterlands of lunacy the current CSM chair has gone. Other CSM's seem to closing ranks and trying to laugh it off and tell us how it doesn't matter because the mining barge guy didn't actually die - but that is so not the point.
First, mittens did a stupid goddamn thing. Now that the introduction is over with...
Second, it doesn't really matter because the guy was a typical internet attention *****. They're everywhere.
But more importantly!
Quote:In any rational assessment the Mittani (Alexander Gianturco) is finished as CSM chair. I imagine at this point he's literally holding his head in his hands and talking to his wife about whether he can even afford to continue being associated with the game of eve online after his performance at fanfest. The quite literal professional "suicide" he committed there IS that bad.
That, that right there. Explain to me how exactly this means mittens has to quit eve? Or the chair? Am I falling for a giant troll? |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
220
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:04:00 -
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you're falling for a giant troll, it's just from god in the form of jade constatine being an actual human being |
D Derp
xXxSePhIrOtHSSJ420xXx W33D4LYFE Fanclub
17
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:05:00 -
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Retar Aveymone wrote:yes lets all ask the creepy looking aspie who ran a space brothel about normal human behavior this is sure to generate useful information
Retar Aveymone wrote:you're falling for a giant troll, it's just from god in the form of jade constatine being an actual human being
hahaha he did what?
**** me I fell for the troll |
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
18
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:07:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:In any rational assessment the Mittani (Alexander Gianturco) is finished as CSM chair. I imagine at this point he's literally holding his head in his hands and talking to his wife about whether he can even afford to continue being associated with the game of eve online after his performance at fanfest. The quite literal professional "suicide" he committed there IS that bad. I highly doubt that. I think he's probably wondering what sort of idiotic world we live in where someone playing a video game uses real-life suicide as a bargaining device.
Jade Constantine wrote:As for Issler she looks like being scapegoated at the moment. Understand, I didn't vote for her, I didn't much like her policies. But she is trying to push an agenda of personal responsibility from the current CSM team where we get to see what each of them actually *think* about this crisis rather than disappearing behind a magic curtain and letting the "wizard" tell us how its going to be.
Sure she could probably be handling it better, could have waited to say something, could have done skype from a laptop or something, could be in coms somehow whatever. But I do get the impression she is at least in tune with the understanding a lot of us have about how far off message into the hinterlands of lunacy the current CSM chair has gone. IMO, Issler is doing more damage to the CSM than The Mittani did with his drunken outburst. The Mittani will probably just fade away. Issler, on the other hand, we seem to be stuck with. I'm ******* terrible at EVE.
"Fun fact: carebears are not necessary for the game to function." --áTippia |
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