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Dasfunkeh
Barr Heavy Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:34:00 -
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3 of these posts on the front-page. gtfo
But seriously, what has the guy he said that stuff to said about it? did he accept the apology?
Either way - NO |
Sunviking
The Shining Knights
17
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:38:00 -
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Yes.
But the most damage he has caused with his actions is to his own RL career. That apology was probably designed to try and salvage his RL career in Law, it's not a genuine apology to the EVE community. What he said has got to have some kind of impact on his RL job prospects. For someone who is supposed to be a responsible and trustworthy RL professional, making comments like that on camera to thousands of people is just plain foolish.
Career Limiting Factor as we say in England! C.L.F. |
dontmindmeloltwo
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:39:00 -
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Yes - and make Seleene new chair, i feel he could be a suitable replacement as he has been playing eve since near the start and actually has a clue about changes the game has been through from the start.
also looking at some of the mittani's twitter posts the day after or so about people getting mad about profanity etc... makes me think he doesnt care at all. |
Norian Lonark
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:48:00 -
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No.
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Mistress Lilu
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:50:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:No.
There really is no real reason to do it, since he immediately admitted his mistake and apologized. It took the wind out of the whole thing before it became unmanageable. It's now your standard political scandal with people making a lot of fuss about it in order to achieve their own agendas, but it will blow over nevertheless. His resignation would be convenient for some interests, but just convenient. It is in no way necessary. It might happen if he wants to martyr himself or CCP volunteers him for the role, but ignoring direct CCP intervention, a proper politician would have no problem weathering something like this.
I voted for Seleene though, so I don't really care whether he stays or goes. The only reason why he apalogized was because there was a uproar. Everyone knows what kind of a person Mittani is. This is called cyber bullying. And it is so funny how people say "this is eve, blahblah, its brutal, blahblah, kill or be killed, blahblah". What he has done is, taken eve into RL and gave out the guys evemail address. That is kind of absurd, that CPP will not ban mittani for cyber bullying. Off with his head.
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PaTrond
X-9 Chained Reactions
3
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:55:00 -
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CCP is investigating this. It's that simple. I actually hope CCP won't ask about the public opinion about this, as it's a serious case. Suicidal player or not, you just don't joke with that the way it happened. I'm pretty sure CCP will judge this in a professional way. I however applaud The Mittani's apology to the community. |
Reaver Glitterstim
Resurrected Darkness
69
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:00:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:No. It would be Stupid and Trivial to go out like this, taken down by a drunken side comment that was exploited by the press after winning a second term as CSM chairman. Instead, Mittani needs to survive this, thus increasing his ego ten fold, thereby encouraging him to keep doing increasingly extreme, crazy and arrogant things until his Ego can't pull it off anymore, at which point he goes out in a Blaze of Supreme Vain-glory, in an event that we'll be talking about in the years to follow.
But this. This isn't the way to go out. There's no glory. Nothing worthy to remember.
This is exactly how I feel.
So no. -á"The Mittani: Hated By Badposters i'm strangely comfortable with it" -Mittens |
Niena Nuamzzar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:19:00 -
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EvE Online is a cruel game, so NO! Apology should suffice |
Jan VanRijkdom
Jan VanRijkdom IInvestments
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:21:00 -
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NO!!
No actions by player TOONS should have ANY impact on ANYONES 'RL'.
If anyone gets that upset over what happens in a game, then they should've stopped playing a long time ago.
And he apologized anyway.
He who has never put their foot in their mouth cast the first stone pl0x.
Mmmm...beer... -áAnd no, I'm not actually Dutch. |
Jan VanRijkdom
Jan VanRijkdom IInvestments
4
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:24:00 -
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Mistress Lilu wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:No.
There really is no real reason to do it, since he immediately admitted his mistake and apologized. It took the wind out of the whole thing before it became unmanageable. It's now your standard political scandal with people making a lot of fuss about it in order to achieve their own agendas, but it will blow over nevertheless. His resignation would be convenient for some interests, but just convenient. It is in no way necessary. It might happen if he wants to martyr himself or CCP volunteers him for the role, but ignoring direct CCP intervention, a proper politician would have no problem weathering something like this.
I voted for Seleene though, so I don't really care whether he stays or goes. The only reason why he apalogized was because there was a uproar. Everyone knows what kind of a person Mittani is. This is called cyber bullying. And it is so funny how people say "this is eve, blahblah, its brutal, blahblah, kill or be killed, blahblah". What he has done is, taken eve into RL and gave out the guys evemail address. That is kind of absurd, that CPP will not ban mittani for cyber bullying. Off with his head.
That's not cyber bullying , idiot.
Cyber bullying has to be bullying someones ACTUAL person, not their player TOON in a GAME.
If you can't tell the difference than I cannot help you.
In no way has anything been taken into 'RL'
I cant stand overdramatic morons. Nothing better to do? Mmmm...beer... -áAnd no, I'm not actually Dutch. |
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Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
37
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:26:00 -
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dontmindmeloltwo wrote:Yes - and make Seleene new chair, i feel he could be a suitable replacement as he has been playing eve since near the start and actually has a clue about changes the game has been through from the start.
also looking at some of the mittani's twitter posts the day after or so about people getting mad about profanity etc... makes me think he doesnt care at all.
Remember at the start he (says he) didn't have net hooked up. Tweeting and browsing from phone. Was on a plane, unpacking etc. I know a few people there were to busy to get on during the trip home. If you check, he comments how (and isn't an excuse) he didn't remember the comments, regrets, blah blah. But recommend you go back and read all tweets, plus the apology, if you feel the statements of remorse are false, well, that is for yourself personally to decide. |
Infinimo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
425
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:33:00 -
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no checkbox, didn't vote Theta Squad best squad. Monocle crew represent~
10,058 |
Amity Lane
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:39:00 -
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Yes.
Not because I think he broke any rules, or should be banned, or is a bad person, or Titan nerfs, or he shouldn't be on the CSM, or any of that other irrelevant stuff.
He should resign because he said he would. Plain and simple. Had he not said he would resign, I would say "no". |
Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
266
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:49:00 -
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Yes, of course he should resign from the CSM.
Yes, he should be banned from all future CSM elections.
Yes, of course he should be banned from Eve.
Anything less will permanently damage the CSM, CCP, and Eve. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |
Stoogie
Cadre Assault Force Initiative Mercenaries
10
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:55:00 -
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Yes |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
313
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:56:00 -
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Niena Nuamzzar wrote:EvE Online is a cruel game, so NO! Apology should suffice
Yeah too bad this was out of game stuff.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong White-Lotus
489
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:57:00 -
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yes, it's better for PR, that's who it goes when your in public office |
Karim alRashid
Aliastra Gallente Federation
135
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:58:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Niena Nuamzzar wrote:EvE Online is a cruel game, so NO! Apology should suffice Yeah too bad this was out of game stuff.
Quit whining already.
PS. Look at the guy liking each Yes post. |
VampireZIM
Blood Raiders Initiate BLOOD EMPIRE
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 23:01:00 -
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No |
EnslaverOfMinmatar
BRAPELILLE MACRO BOT MINERS
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Posted - 2012.03.27 23:02:00 -
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WTF this forum sucks.
No. Every EVE player must read this http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=29-01-07 or uninstall and DIAF |
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong White-Lotus
490
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Posted - 2012.03.27 23:11:00 -
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Sunviking wrote:Yes.
But the most damage he has caused with his actions is to his own RL career. That apology was probably designed to try and salvage his RL career in Law, it's not a genuine apology to the EVE community. What he said has got to have some kind of impact on his RL job prospects. For someone who is supposed to be a responsible and trustworthy RL professional, making comments like that on camera to thousands of people is just plain foolish.
Career Limiting Factor as we say in England! C.L.F.
right, this isn't an argument about cyber bullying, and what it is.
if you do something wrong, you have to own up, or risk a lot of backlash from many areas in life.
He isn't going to go down with the boat just to make a point, it's just a game. |
Zoltar
Perdu Opus
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Posted - 2012.03.28 00:04:00 -
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yes |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2012.03.28 00:21:00 -
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No
Bunch of idiots with an axe to grind blowing things way way way out of proportion. |
de4deye
Mortis Angelus Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.03.28 00:23:00 -
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yes |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
422
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Posted - 2012.03.28 00:28:00 -
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Bibosikus wrote:Yes
EDIT 27/3 pm:
But -
I have now watched the whole Alliance Presentation, which by and large was interesting and (thanks, ExookiZ) quite a laugh.
It was however in the fourth quarter that things took a turn for the worse. That should have been expected, because you can clearly see from the beginning that the TEST, DNS and Goon CEO's are already loaded, and have a shedload of more alcohol spread out in front of them.
Their language was foul, their attitudes were loutish and they couldn't give a flying f***. This, from (two anyway) of the most powerful and influential players in the game. OK, probably to be expected but -
This, on a live World Wide Web feed available to any member of Joe Public who cared to click the Play button? That's a freaking PR disaster.
It's actually CCP who has to answer for this. They should have easily seen trouble brewing. They should have cut the feed when the language got out of hand and what was a reasonably professional presentation became a complete fiasco.
They should have banned alcohol from the stage, or allowed it and not filmed it. Or a compromise between the two. This isn't hindsight 20-20, this is Television 101. Live tv + alcohol = trouble.
I'm no prude - I'm thinking here about prospective new players. Because frankly, that half hour of effing, blinding, posturing and insulting is the worst single piece of universal PR nightmare CCP has manufactured, to date. And they could so easily have prevented it.
So I suspect the "investigation" into Mittani will also involve some major introspection and damage limitation.
I still think Mittani should resign as Chairman of the CSM but stay on the committee. He's made a decent and thoughtful apology. He can still be infuential. But he will need to take some definitive action, and giving away the contents of his wallet is no solution; he'll be more than recompensed by supporters.
I guess this thread will be locked soon which is why I've added what I hope is a more objective look at this affair. But for what it's worth, so far the No's outweigh the Yes's.
There is no ******* way I'm giving CCP another ******* dime unless they rectify the situation quickly.
It is against the forum rules for me to encourage anyone else to do this; however in this case I will not have to ask, it will just happen. Just like Tuesday 21 June 2011. rembourcer ou vous ne pourez plus miner en paix !!-ánous n'aimons pas les pirate !!-áno rembource mi declare war for you |
Geodeath
Fist of God
1
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Posted - 2012.03.28 00:28:00 -
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Yes+banhammer
Not funny to people that have had suicide touch their lives.
Negative points to all present who stoodby and said nothing. |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
254
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Posted - 2012.03.28 00:36:00 -
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No...
I'm not a fan of the goons... but I don't think he crossed the line enough to warrant his dismissal. He's done a lot in reshaping the direction of EvE, and frankly, under his watch CCP's direction has radically changed for the better. I say keep him as CSM chair.
If anything, CCP should setup a few "rules" for Alliance panel presentations.... |
Gevlin
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
120
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Posted - 2012.03.28 00:42:00 -
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No. I never voted for him but the childness of most calling for resigning is is mind numbing
A mistake was made, Appology was made 11Bill compensation Paid. Now we have a chairman who will not make that mistake a second time.
An avatar was attacked not an individual... there is a difference. The only real life person hurt is the Mittani because his real life is known. I agree with several people: CCP needs to focus most of eve's recources on FIS, but the development of WIS still needs to continue, just as a slower and more efficient pace. In eve I wish to be more than just a machine. |
FT Diomedes
Factio Paucorum
17
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Posted - 2012.03.28 00:46:00 -
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No. |
Blut'Engel
Runnin With Scissors
8
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Posted - 2012.03.28 01:04:00 -
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Yes + Ban |
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