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Georgiy Giggle
The Sith Syndicate
24
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:23:00 -
[4381] - Quote
Quote:...and the line between the game and reality should not be overstepped.
Game is just a game, but REAL PEOPLE are acting and controlling deeds of their characters. If you are bastard, who can betray, lie, grief others JUST FOR FUN - you are same IRL.
Quote:...While the Eve Online character "The Mittani" would never apologize for any sort of villany in game, I myself, as Alex Gianturco, feel utterly ashamed and sickened by my behavior.
Your character is a part of you and your lifestyle. Scum here - scum in RL. You call it roleplaying? Roleplaying being bastard? Man, who does not remember what morality is should not be a chairman of CSM.
Just my opinion. Likes\dislikes\trolling won't help. I'll stay with my mind. Not mastering proprieties, won't become firmly established. - Confucius |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
148
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:23:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Perhaps those who voted for mittens should be allowed to transfer their votes to the other candidates who stood for the CSM. I'm not sure that's how voting works tbh. The candidate failed the voters. The bit that CCP forced him down will not hold water as he wanted to resign himself much earlier in this titanic hurfblurf threadnaught. Ofc,I'm no lawyer and there might be more it. Will just have to wait and see. |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
449
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:24:00 -
[4383] - Quote
Georgiy Giggle wrote:Quote:...and the line between the game and reality should not be overstepped. Game is just a game, but REAL PEOPLE are acting and controlling deeds of their characters. If you are bastard, who can betray, lie, grief others JUST FOR FUN - you are same IRL. Quote:...While the Eve Online character "The Mittani" would never apologize for any sort of villany in game, I myself, as Alex Gianturco, feel utterly ashamed and sickened by my behavior. Your character is a part of you and your lifestyle. Scum here - scum in RL. You call it roleplaying? Roleplaying being bastard? Man, who does not remember what morality is should not be a chairman of CSM. Just my opinion. Likes\dislikes\trolling won't help. I'll stay with my mind.
So, your a sith lord in real life? awesome! Do you realise how stupid what you just said is? Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Enyeto Perah
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:25:00 -
[4384] - Quote
Georgiy Giggle wrote:Quote:...and the line between the game and reality should not be overstepped. Game is just a game, but REAL PEOPLE are acting and controlling deeds of their characters. If you are bastard, who can betray, lie, grief others JUST FOR FUN - you are same IRL. Quote:...While the Eve Online character "The Mittani" would never apologize for any sort of villany in game, I myself, as Alex Gianturco, feel utterly ashamed and sickened by my behavior. Your character is a part of you and your lifestyle. Scum here - scum in RL. You call it roleplaying? Roleplaying being bastard? Man, who does not remember what morality is should not be a chairman of CSM. Just my opinion. Likes\dislikes\trolling won't help. I'll stay with my mind.
Exactly THIS! He also should not be allowed to be voted into CSM anymore. |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
449
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:25:00 -
[4385] - Quote
Enyeto Perah wrote:Rico Minali wrote:Enyeto Perah wrote: Perhaps Mittani should better watch out that on the next Fanfest nothing happens to him..
That sounds like threats of real life violence to me. CCP, this is inexcusable, he needs a ban. Oh wow... rly?! and a CSM threatening some player is ok? Great!
No, it wasnt alright, and it isnt alright for you to make therast either, he was banned, so you need to be banned to. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
selexus
The Red Circle Inc.
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:27:00 -
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The Universal constant.
People who let there ego run riot are spectacular to watch when they eventually screw up (and they all do...eventually)
Mittens...WTFILN? |
Aurora B
FinFleet Raiden.
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:27:00 -
[4387] - Quote
Chairman song |
Momoyo
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
18
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:31:00 -
[4388] - Quote
07 Mittani
Also I'm not sure but this is the longest thread I've ever seen here. Wonder if its a record breaker. |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:32:00 -
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Aurora B wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Perhaps those who voted for mittens should be allowed to transfer their votes to the other candidates who stood for the CSM. Eh why?
Because it would remove the main plank of the Goons - we have been disenfranchied - complaint, and for the simple reason that it would help give CSM7 more legitimacy.
It was Mittens who made a t*t of himself in Iceland, (and has been rightly punished) not those who voted for him. |
Enyeto Perah
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:33:00 -
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Rico Minali wrote:Enyeto Perah wrote:Rico Minali wrote:Enyeto Perah wrote: Perhaps Mittani should better watch out that on the next Fanfest nothing happens to him..
That sounds like threats of real life violence to me. CCP, this is inexcusable, he needs a ban. Oh wow... rly?! and a CSM threatening some player is ok? Great! No, it wasnt alright, and it isnt alright for you to make therast either, he was banned, so you need to be banned to.
I wasnt actually calling ppl to kill him on fanfest! And I'm no CSM Member... so I wonder how long I will be banned.
And yes: I can accept to be banned for this, that's NOT the point!
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Madame Fanney
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:33:00 -
[4391] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Perhaps those who voted for mittens should be allowed to transfer their votes to the other candidates who stood for the CSM.
.itGÇÖs a goon & goon friend friend heavy panel anyway, look at the alliance numbers and you can tell where all the votes came from.
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Aurora B
FinFleet Raiden.
3
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:37:00 -
[4392] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Aurora B wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Perhaps those who voted for mittens should be allowed to transfer their votes to the other candidates who stood for the CSM. Eh why? Because it would remove the main plank of the Goons - we have been disenfranchied - complaint, and for the simple reason that it would help give CSM7 more legitimacy. It was Mittens who made a t*t of himself in Iceland, (and has been rightly punished) not those who voted for him.
So you voted the wrong guy and want to chance your vote now, that seems to be the cornerstone of all elections. |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:44:00 -
[4393] - Quote
Aurora B wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Aurora B wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Perhaps those who voted for mittens should be allowed to transfer their votes to the other candidates who stood for the CSM. Eh why? Because it would remove the main plank of the Goons - we have been disenfranchied - complaint, and for the simple reason that it would help give CSM7 more legitimacy. It was Mittens who made a t*t of himself in Iceland, (and has been rightly punished) not those who voted for him. So you voted the wrong guy and want to chance your vote now, that seems to be the cornerstone of all elections.
Here in the UK, if a member of parliament to forced to stand down, voters are given the opportunity to vote for a replacement member of parliament.
The MP is punished not the voters.
It would be the least bad option for CCP to take in my opinion.
The Goons cannot complain about being disenfranchised if they are allowed to transfer their votes to another CSM member. |
Georgiy Giggle
The Sith Syndicate
25
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:45:00 -
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Rico Minali wrote: So, your a sith lord in real life? awesome! Do you realise how stupid what you just said is?
Yes, dude. If you do not know history of my corporation and it's name, please keep your silly mind in your head. Ingame and IRL I'm fighter for morality, justice, merit and virtue (http://www.eveisreal.net/#!/image-contest/detail/93078 - KEEP BEING HUMAN). Name of corporation is just a legacy, that I got from previous CEO, who's ideas were enough evil. Still it's just a name, and soon I'll get rid of it.
So, please, next time do not judge until you have ALL FACTS on your hands. Not mastering proprieties, won't become firmly established. - Confucius |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
151
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:46:00 -
[4395] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Aurora B wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Aurora B wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Perhaps those who voted for mittens should be allowed to transfer their votes to the other candidates who stood for the CSM. Eh why? Because it would remove the main plank of the Goons - we have been disenfranchied - complaint, and for the simple reason that it would help give CSM7 more legitimacy. It was Mittens who made a t*t of himself in Iceland, (and has been rightly punished) not those who voted for him. So you voted the wrong guy and want to chance your vote now, that seems to be the cornerstone of all elections. Here in the UK, if a member of parliament to forced to stand down, voters are given the opportunity to vote for a replacement member of parliament. The MP is punished not the voters. It would be the least bad option for CCP to take in my opinion. The Goons cannot complain about being disenfranchised if they are allowed to transfer their votes to another CSM member. Ahhhhhhhh.... Nope. |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:51:00 -
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Jake Warbird....a well thought out and reasoned response.
But you should have stopped at the Ahhhhhhhh bit. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
151
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:55:00 -
[4397] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Jake Warbird....a well thought out and reasoned response.
But you should have stopped at the Ahhhhhhhh bit.
Jake Warbird wrote: I'm not sure that's how voting works tbh. The candidate failed the voters. The bit that CCP forced him down will not hold water as he wanted to resign himself much earlier in this titanic hurfblurf threadnaught. Ofc,I'm no lawyer and there might be more it. Will just have to wait and see.
I did post what I thought.
Maybe you should check people who quote you? |
mindblow
Rionnag Alba Northern Coalition.
3
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:55:00 -
[4398] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Aurora B wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Aurora B wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Perhaps those who voted for mittens should be allowed to transfer their votes to the other candidates who stood for the CSM. Eh why? Because it would remove the main plank of the Goons - we have been disenfranchied - complaint, and for the simple reason that it would help give CSM7 more legitimacy. It was Mittens who made a t*t of himself in Iceland, (and has been rightly punished) not those who voted for him. So you voted the wrong guy and want to chance your vote now, that seems to be the cornerstone of all elections. Here in the UK, if a member of parliament to forced to stand down, voters are given the opportunity to vote for a replacement member of parliament. The MP is punished not the voters. It would be the least bad option for CCP to take in my opinion. The Goons cannot complain about being disenfranchised if they are allowed to transfer their votes to another CSM member.
No.
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Ai Shun
482
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:55:00 -
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Enyeto Perah wrote:And yes: I can accept to be banned for this, that's NOT the point!
What is the point? "Mommy, she did it first?" What are you, like 3 years old? Since when do you excuse your bad behavior by pointing at the bad behavior of somebody else.
Grow up, ffs.
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Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:58:00 -
[4400] - Quote
Jake Warbird wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Jake Warbird....a well thought out and reasoned response.
But you should have stopped at the Ahhhhhhhh bit. Jake Warbird wrote: I'm not sure that's how voting works tbh. The candidate failed the voters. The bit that CCP forced him down will not hold water as he wanted to resign himself much earlier in this titanic hurfblurf threadnaught. Ofc,I'm no lawyer and there might be more it. Will just have to wait and see.
I did post what I thought. Maybe you should check people who quote you?
My sincere apologies if I have misunderstood you good sir |
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PleaseDONTblow Myship
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
7
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:01:00 -
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Boz Wel wrote:I'm amazed people are so "outraged" by this. Who even really cares. It was a tasteless joke, but it was obviously a joke. No rational person thinks that Mittens was actively attempting to get someone to kill himself. If I got an rambling email from a 23 account holding Mackinaw pilot on the verge of suicide because mining space rocks with 23 accounts is all that makes him happy in life... I'd probably make a tasteless joke as well, because let's face it - that's pretty pathetic.
Now, it's horribly unprofessional to make such a joke in a drunken stupor at Fanfest to a group of other players. Still, Mittens has apologized for it and taken actions to attempt to make up for that. Still, you have to keep things in perspective. This was a tasteless joke and no more. Calling for the guy's head in game in the way of bans and what not is ridiculous.
Well,im not amazed or surprised because I dont expect rationality and inteligence from hi-sec pubbies and threads like this only ensure me that hi-sec must burn... |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
151
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:03:00 -
[4402] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Jake Warbird....a well thought out and reasoned response.
But you should have stopped at the Ahhhhhhhh bit. Jake Warbird wrote: I'm not sure that's how voting works tbh. The candidate failed the voters. The bit that CCP forced him down will not hold water as he wanted to resign himself much earlier in this titanic hurfblurf threadnaught. Ofc,I'm no lawyer and there might be more it. Will just have to wait and see.
I did post what I thought. Maybe you should check people who quote you? My sincere apologies if I have misunderstood you good sir No worries,mate. All good |
Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
1-800-FUBAR
82
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:03:00 -
[4403] - Quote
Hi sec must burn is the funniest thing ive heard in years
The plebs and there pets could not even hold down the ice systems. There were just to many miners. Standing in for Karn Dulake who was banned for saying bad words |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
152
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:05:00 -
[4404] - Quote
PleaseDONTblow Myship wrote:Boz Wel wrote:I'm amazed people are so "outraged" by this. Who even really cares. It was a tasteless joke, but it was obviously a joke. No rational person thinks that Mittens was actively attempting to get someone to kill himself. If I got an rambling email from a 23 account holding Mackinaw pilot on the verge of suicide because mining space rocks with 23 accounts is all that makes him happy in life... I'd probably make a tasteless joke as well, because let's face it - that's pretty pathetic.
Now, it's horribly unprofessional to make such a joke in a drunken stupor at Fanfest to a group of other players. Still, Mittens has apologized for it and taken actions to attempt to make up for that. Still, you have to keep things in perspective. This was a tasteless joke and no more. Calling for the guy's head in game in the way of bans and what not is ridiculous. Well,im not amazed or surprised because I dont expect rationality and inteligence from hi-sec pubbies and threads like this only ensure me that hi-sec must burn... Ohai PETS Allianzzz please tell me more about this rashunalitee and this intelyjunce you speak of. |
Enyeto Perah
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:05:00 -
[4405] - Quote
Ai Shun wrote:Enyeto Perah wrote:And yes: I can accept to be banned for this, that's NOT the point! What is the point? "Mommy, she did it first?" What are you, like 3 years old? Since when do you excuse your bad behavior by pointing at the bad behavior of somebody else. Grow up, ffs.
The point is, that a member of the CSM called other ppl to make a player "kill himself", and now comes with this crappy excuse "I was drunk, I didn't mean to, blablabla!", and all that happens is he is excluded from CSM for this time, and banned for 30 days!
I NEVER excused my bad behaviour! I said I can accept a ban! READ before you actually try to argue!
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Starcaller Dredg
1st Contact Fade 2 Black
9
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:09:00 -
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http://pastebin.com/B7HCtBUE
Mittani isn't sorry. He's just sorry that he got caught.
He didn't step down because of his actions. He stepped down because it would benefit goonswarm.
He didn't apologize because he meant it. He apologized to save face.
Run the Goons out of EVE. |
Aurora B
FinFleet Raiden.
3
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:11:00 -
[4407] - Quote
PleaseDONTblow Myship wrote:Boz Wel wrote:I'm amazed people are so "outraged" by this. Who even really cares. It was a tasteless joke, but it was obviously a joke. No rational person thinks that Mittens was actively attempting to get someone to kill himself. If I got an rambling email from a 23 account holding Mackinaw pilot on the verge of suicide because mining space rocks with 23 accounts is all that makes him happy in life... I'd probably make a tasteless joke as well, because let's face it - that's pretty pathetic.
Now, it's horribly unprofessional to make such a joke in a drunken stupor at Fanfest to a group of other players. Still, Mittens has apologized for it and taken actions to attempt to make up for that. Still, you have to keep things in perspective. This was a tasteless joke and no more. Calling for the guy's head in game in the way of bans and what not is ridiculous. Well,im not amazed or surprised because I dont expect rationality and inteligence from hi-sec pubbies and threads like this only ensure me that hi-sec must burn...
Maybe that will dry your tears, just maybe... |
Enyeto Perah
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:13:00 -
[4408] - Quote
Starcaller Dredg wrote:http://pastebin.com/B7HCtBUE
Mittani isn't sorry. He's just sorry that he got caught.
He didn't step down because of his actions. He stepped down because it would benefit goonswarm.
He didn't apologize because he meant it. He apologized to save face.
Run the Goons out of EVE.
THIS should be spread! |
Starcaller Dredg
1st Contact Fade 2 Black
9
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:17:00 -
[4409] - Quote
Enyeto Perah wrote:Starcaller Dredg wrote:http://pastebin.com/B7HCtBUE
Mittani isn't sorry. He's just sorry that he got caught.
He didn't step down because of his actions. He stepped down because it would benefit goonswarm.
He didn't apologize because he meant it. He apologized to save face.
Run the Goons out of EVE. THIS should be spread!
Spread the word. http://pastebin.com/B7HCtBUE Mittani isn't sorry. He's just sorry that he got caught. He didn't step down because of his actions. He stepped down to benefit Goonswarm. He didn't apologize because he meant it. He apologized to save face. |
Anthemius Heb
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:18:00 -
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I didn't read the apology because a few days ago in the thread complaining about his actions he said "deal with it". This was on the first page of the thread when only a handful of people had posted. Now it's become clear that a lot of people are seriously pissed off about his actions his stance on the issue seems to have changed dramatically from "Deal with it" to "I'm ashamed of my actions, i soooooooo sorry".
Was it an attack of conscience that made him apologize or was it the realization that so many people were pissed off it might start to affect his chances of remaining head of the CSM and therefore his direct line to influencing CCP's game decisions for the benefit of his friends but at the expense of everybody else? |
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