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HazardsSoul
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
13
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:00:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:I suggested that 'the Goons' perhaps follow there esteemed leaders example
As I say this scandal is in the process of breaking, this may look very bad for CCP to the general public to whom 'Internet spaceship pewpew' is not serious business at all but having there sons daughters friends and loved ones driven to sucide very much IS. If you're driven to suicide by a game then i'm sorry my friend but eve isnt for you |
ExhumeToConsume
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
34
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:00:00 -
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Master Andrew wrote: you are a special snowflake...
Naaah, Prof A is just a very angry about suicide ganking looking at his posting history. Of course, that's totally irrelevant to his valiant quest to have OUR CEO jailed for attempted murder, and I'm sure any other alliance leader would be subject to a similar honoUrable crusade for justice. |
Doris Dents
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
178
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:01:00 -
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All of you vultures harassing a poor man who clearly has problems with alcohol should be ashamed of yourselves. Alcoholism is a disease and Mittani deserves your understanding as much as a person with cancer or HIV does. Using his unfortunate outburst while drunk to push him out of the chair for metagaming purposes is just despicable. For shame. |
Mokanor Lenak
Republic University Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:02:00 -
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Andski wrote: This is a game where players take pride in kicking down sandcastles and stripping their enemies of literally everything they have worked for over years. No part of the game is exempt from this and anybody with serious issues IRL should not be using a game, especially not a cutthroat MMO like EVE to escape them. They should be seeking help and straightening out their priorities.
I agree that they need to fix their life, and its not the best game for him. But that does not change the fact that they are in the game, and they do have issues, and they are less tough than the normal gaming people. And CCP encourage people to join and have some sort of life in the game.
And as such you need to have the enough brain cells to know how to handle that. You can be smart, go "WTF DID I JUST READ" after reading that guy's letter and leave him alone / ignore him / let him sort his own issues. Or you can go total brain retarted bad-ass bastard, and post it and make fun of him in front of everyone. This is not like a person kicking another when he is down. Its like making everyone kick him when he is down.
Mittens chose the latter, and he is hopefuly going to pay for it.
The same as you don't take a mentally issued friend to a bar, get him drunk, and than encourage him to drunkly jump off a bridge, you don't do that like how mittens did. Being drunk is not an excuse, its just something to hide behind so you don't have to face the consequences. Else people who killed their wife while being drunk could have a very valid excuse. Right? |
Ivana Twinkle
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
169
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:04:00 -
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ExhumeToConsume wrote:Master Andrew wrote: you are a special snowflake...
Naaah, Prof A is just a very angry about suicide ganking looking at his posting history. Of course, that's totally irrelevant to his valiant quest to have OUR CEO jailed for attempted murder, and I'm sure any other alliance leader would be subject to a similar honoUrable crusade for justice.
Cant we just wardec him or is that cyberbullying too? |
Memrox
Memrox Corp
1
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:05:00 -
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All this **** over some dickhead that said he will kill himself lol, he deserves to be ganked more. |
Zimmy Zeta
Battle Force Industries Tactical Invader Syndicate
943
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:05:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:Zimmy Zeta wrote:Are you guys aware that by repeatedly quoting Wis and making his name and backstory known all over the forums, that you do more to isolate him and drive him over the edge than Mittens could ever have done? The apology sounded sincere, and I am sure that our beloved chariman will settle the thing with Wis in a private manner, no more publicity needed. Now, please let this topic die already, there will nothing good come out of it. Hey Z Hows tricks Unfortunatly the cat is out the bag now and in the public domain, the number of gaming sites that almost instantly covered the story, that may not be the end of this There's no way to know how far such a 'viral' effect will have just now, because the infection has just started to spread as it where, 1000's of players ranting on facebook, twitter, no-one sure how 'high' up the publicity ladder this is going to climb, what Sony's reaction will be regarding this scandal regarding a comapny they are 'in bed with' Thats why I warned the goons Other people than CCP may forensically examine this incident, only time will tell the overall outcome, we are now at day 2 of the 'Mittani incident' At least he has finally and defenatly sealed his entry into the history of New Eden
Good morning Professor,
Sorry, but traditionally I don't give a flying crap about press and politics if RL human lives are in danger. So this guy was going through a hard time and found Eve as a vent and a safe place to find at least some stability and order and some way to stay in control of his life- even if it is a virtual one. MMOs are getting more and more important to those people. And now, just in the name of political correctness, you are depriving this person of his personal "safe spot" and drag him out all into the public. You are taking away the last bit of control he had over his life. I don't care about facebook, , twitter, the CSM and even Eve, as long as it endagers a living human. Just my 2 cents.
OK... I will do my part in no longer participating in this thread. Gonna log into Eve and just kill some ice miners instead- to show them that i still care and want to enrich their gaming experience
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Drew Solaert
University of Caille Gallente Federation
97
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:05:00 -
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An apology is good but it's not enough. For every player ship that blows up, the wheels of the economy turn slightly faster. -áDo your bit today. -áGo out and PEW.
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HazardsSoul
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
13
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:05:00 -
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Ivana Twinkle wrote:ExhumeToConsume wrote:Master Andrew wrote: you are a special snowflake...
Naaah, Prof A is just a very angry about suicide ganking looking at his posting history. Of course, that's totally irrelevant to his valiant quest to have OUR CEO jailed for attempted murder, and I'm sure any other alliance leader would be subject to a similar honoUrable crusade for justice. Cant we just wardec him or is that cyberbullying too? I think that might make him kill himself |
Vila eNorvic
University of Caille Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:06:00 -
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Elena Melkan wrote:In real life politics, politicians have been joking about much worse things and got away with it. In REAL LIFE. This is a (serious internet) game.
He didn't do it in game. He did on a live video stream. Get it? A LIVE video stream.
In other words, REAL LIFE. |
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Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
426
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:06:00 -
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ExhumeToConsume wrote:Master Andrew wrote: you are a special snowflake...
Naaah, Prof A is just a very angry about suicide ganking looking at his posting history. Of course, that's totally irrelevant to his valiant quest to have OUR CEO jailed for attempted murder, and I'm sure any other alliance leader would be subject to a similar honoUrable crusade for justice.
Indeed I'll be fully investigating claims that this is not the first time CCP have been complicite in driving someone to taking there life
It is nothing personal against Alex or the Goons etc
I have a histroy of putting you down ingame etc.. you know this I know this , this is 'the game'
Life and Death issues are far beyond some stupid space sim as far as I'm concerned sorry
The line was crossed, even if only one mortal excistance was threatened
THAT IS TOO MUCH, AND MUST BE STOPPED
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
HazardsSoul
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
17
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:08:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:ExhumeToConsume wrote:Master Andrew wrote: you are a special snowflake...
Naaah, Prof A is just a very angry about suicide ganking looking at his posting history. Of course, that's totally irrelevant to his valiant quest to have OUR CEO jailed for attempted murder, and I'm sure any other alliance leader would be subject to a similar honoUrable crusade for justice. Indeed I'll be fully investigating claims that this is not the first time CCP have been complicite in driving someone to taking there life It is nothing personal against Alex or the Goons etc I have a histroy of putting you down ingame etc.. you know this I know this , this is 'the game' Life and Death issues are far beyond some stupid space sim as far as I'm concerned sorry The line was crossed, even if only one mortal excistance was threatened THAT IS TOO MUCH, AND MUST BE STOPPED aww look at this little eve-o detective, Warning to all, this guy will put you down. J/k we will just laugh at this pubbie |
Taron Nait
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:08:00 -
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Keen Fallsword wrote:Its not about this poor guy anymore its about rules. Rules are Rules you should't be breaking EULA.
ITT people who think the EULA should apply to real life. |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
160
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:08:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:It is nothing personal against Alex or the Goons etc
Of all you things you've said, this one's the funniest, and I'm including you accusing Mittens of attempted murder in that list. Good show! |
Heimatar Auctioneer
Republic University Minmatar Republic
504
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:11:00 -
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Sing Xing wrote:Heimatar Auctioneer wrote: Damn, this is almost (almost) as disgusting as making a drunken, terrible joke about a guy killing himself. Using this to further your own petty political agenda is right up there with The Mittani himself. You should be ******* ashamed of yourself, it's obvious that you dont give a flying F about suicide-guy or cyber-bullying, but just desperately want to get Mittani out the CSM chair.
Hahaha of course that is the intent! Why would ANYONE want a morally deprived man who has singlehandedly brought multiple negative publicity on EVE Online in a single day, as CSM Chair, or let alone, allow him to seat in the CSM?
I have nothing against Goons. Prior to his unexplainable moral depravity, I respected Mittani the Great. He is one of the most articulate and crowd puller CCP can ever hope for. If he didn't commit this "scandal," I would've still respected him.
I am not fueled by my own "political agenda." I do this because I love EVE Online. |
Ayumi Hinoki
Shimai of New Eden
32
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:11:00 -
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Gerard Gendri wrote:Kill yourself.
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knobber Jobbler
Seniors Clan Get Off My Lawn
92
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:12:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:
Indeed I'll be fully investigating claims that this is not the first time CCP have been complicite in driving someone to taking there life
I'm a psychic. I see your future will include locator agents, ganking, frustration, tears and being trolled. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
8
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:13:00 -
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The decision will be at CCP anyway...and it will be one based on legal issues and not on ethical or a "oh you haz been veeeeery bad to XY" decision. So stop the ******* drama here...
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Ayumi Hinoki
Shimai of New Eden
32
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:14:00 -
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Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:
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HazardsSoul
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
16
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:14:00 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:
Indeed I'll be fully investigating claims that this is not the first time CCP have been complicite in driving someone to taking there life
I'm a psychic. I see your future will include locator agents, ganking, frustration, tears and being trolled. Wait. This isn't already happening? |
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Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
160
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:15:00 -
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Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:I am not fueled by my own "political agenda." I do this because I love EVE Online.
You're going to have to post with your main if you want anyone to believe that for even a second. |
ExhumeToConsume
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
36
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:15:00 -
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Ivana Twinkle wrote:ExhumeToConsume wrote: Naaah, Prof A is just a very angry about suicide ganking looking at his posting history. Of course, that's totally irrelevant to his valiant quest to have OUR CEO jailed for attempted murder, and I'm sure any other alliance leader would be subject to a similar honoUrable crusade for justice.
Cant we just wardec him or is that cyberbullying too?
Probably, and now our Elite Lawyerperson (retired) is going to jail. What will we do? :ohdear: |
stavi shaushu
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:15:00 -
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CCP should clearly assess how this case can (and already is) damage reputation of Eve online and its community in the eyes of the outside world if no real actions are taken against the Mittani. Choice is between CCP's reputation (profit) and a single Eve player. |
Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
66
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:16:00 -
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Solid Raiden wrote:Sarina Berghil wrote:Anyone can feel on top on the world while drunk, but it takes real balls to own up to it and write an apology like that. That is a commendable act Real balls? It takes 5 minutes writing some meaningless words on a paper. Nothing more. Apologizing is just another way of manipulating people. So after this, this and this, all of the sudden he is sorry and we should just accept it? Words are meaningless unless followed by actions.
Quoted for truth.
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
10
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:16:00 -
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stavi shaushu wrote:CCP should clearly assess how this case can (and already is) damage reputation of Eve online and its community in the eyes of the outside world if no real actions are taken against the Mittani. Choice is between CCP's reputation (profit) and a single Eve player.
Sadly true |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
606
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:17:00 -
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Keen Fallsword wrote:Its not about this poor guy anymore its about rules. Rules are Rules you should't be breaking EULA. If he was not logged in he could not violate the EULA....
Did he say it in game, or in person?
If talking smack like that(tasteless smack, but that still all it is) were something that a EULA could cover, then the microsoft eula would allow them to sue you for saying the Steve Ballmer is an a-hole(he is, just FYI, been saying it for years, and publicly, still no lawsuit).
Thing is, the language he used and attitudes he displayed are fairly common slang in eve-o, so RL rules on whats acceptable don't apply.(did you know that the word **** is an immediate ban in WOW... Unless you are talking about an in-game situation?)
This leaves the situation in a grey area. His behavior was acceptable as a internet spaceship pilot, its part of the game, but he displayed the behavior in real life... While at an event where everyone is basically 'in character' because its a bunch of internet spaceship nerds talking about internet spaceships. This leads to a situation where people who are simply watching have multiple, conflicting, behavioral cues to try to read and interpret, which means that something that was meant in the same way it is said hundreds of times on these forums, and thousands in-game, can be interpreted in a real-world context, leading to people thinking truly horrible things about someone who screwed up because he was drunk.
Lets repeat that. He was drunk, and he screwed up. The normal response in society for someone who screwed up because they were drunk the first time is to make them fix it if they show remorse, or punish them in a mild fashion to try to teach them remorse.
Of course, the normal response in eve if someone screws up because they were drunk is to tell them to take another shot. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Zhade Lezte
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:17:00 -
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Solid Raiden wrote:I won't pretend I'm some sort of moralist here asking for him to be punished for what he did. I don't really care. Was it appropriate? Not really, but then again in all honesty, who cares?
But I am having a laugh seeing Mittani squirm and would enjoy seeing his CSM chair burn.
A rare moment of honesty at the end of this Raiden dot post. |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
33
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:17:00 -
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Taron Nait wrote:Keen Fallsword wrote:Its not about this poor guy anymore its about rules. Rules are Rules you should't be breaking EULA. ITT people who think the EULA should apply to real life. Actually being that quiet often EULA's are non legal documents as some sections of them are generally void in different parts of the world saying it breaks the rules is kind of silly. Especially as it occurred outside of the game. This is more about the black eye CCP has now gotten and what their response needs to be to prevent opening them selves to law suits down the track. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |
Allataria
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:19:00 -
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Heimatar Auctioneer wrote: If he didn't commit this "scandal," I would've still respected him.
Please explain what scandal was committed because this stuff happens all the time in warfare and pvp and those people who are all worked up about this are nothing but butthurt carebears who do nothing but mission and mine and never pvp or people who just want to see Goons fail and burn who are nothing but hypocrites because they know they have done the same thing in game as well. |
Memrox
Memrox Corp
3
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:20:00 -
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I want to see a Music Vid with him in it or this apology means nothing.
Something Like This. |
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