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Kblackjack54
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
19
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:12:00 -
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Stupid drunken comments, lots of political mileage in that, oh, then he apologises,
Next step invoke the EULA, well get him that way, wrong not actually playing EVE at the time,
OK rethink strategy,
Eureka, Use the Cyber bullying card and smugly throw that one in, no defence there the manGÇÖs clearly guilty of bullying another player of a fictitious internet spaceships game. Cities vaguely UK/US current news on subject for justification.
Reaching new lows here are we not, if the man resigns now or if CCP force him out then vested interests will have managed to use stupidity, bigotry and the unintelligible voice of the howling masses to achieve what they were to weak to do in the first place.
WIN A SEAT ON THE CSM |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
164
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:14:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:Mittani has single-handedly given Eve Online pariah status. I wonder how much this has cost CCP in terms of wasted PR dollars. The last thing Sony wants is to see major media linking Dust with online suicides and cyber-bullying. This would be the kiss of death to CCP.
Hey, if we're talking about stupid **** that won't ever happen, you know what else would be the kiss of death for CCP? A herd of elephants let loose in their office! Not just for the casualties, but for the structural damage! |
bl4ckL0tus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:14:00 -
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well i feel like u showed ure true colours ... and beeing evil ingame as well in real life ... ppl can see u know and u can go sit in ure corner and not blame the alchool for ure behaviour. GET A REALITY PILL and realise what u done its not going to be repaired with a simple : i`m sorry. Get off any leadership position u dont deserve to be in one and realise what u`ve done. kk thx |
Reilly Duvolle
Hydra Squadron
454
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:16:00 -
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Apology Accepted |
Daviclond
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:16:00 -
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Sony Isn't Going to Save Your Titans |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
432
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:17:00 -
[1926] - Quote
Kaivar Lancer wrote:Mittani has single-handedly given Eve Online pariah status. I wonder how much this has cost CCP in terms of wasted PR dollars. The last thing Sony wants is to see major media linking Dust with online suicides and cyber-bullying. This would be the kiss of death to CCP.
Init
CCP continue to sit on there hands while trying to release a single console only development with interaction with THE biggest player in the industry.
Interesting to see Sony's reaction to this.....
Should they find CCP have misrepresented themselves all contracts could be null and void
Dust --- Vaporware
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
Daviclond
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:17:00 -
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bl4ckL0tus wrote:well i feel like u showed ure true colours ... and beeing evil ingame as well in real life ... ppl can see u know and u can go sit in ure corner and not blame the alchool for ure behaviour. GET A REALITY PILL and realise what u done its not going to be repaired with a simple : i`m sorry. Get off any leadership position u dont deserve to be in one and realise what u`ve done. kk thx
Ladies and gentlemen, the EVE Online community. |
Lorren Canada
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
223
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:17:00 -
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bl4ckL0tus wrote:well i feel like u showed ure true colours ... and beeing evil ingame as well in real life ... ppl can see u know and u can go sit in ure corner and not blame the alchool for ure behaviour. GET A REALITY PILL and realise what u done its not going to be repaired with a simple : i`m sorry. Get off any leadership position u dont deserve to be in one and realise what u`ve done. kk thx
Well according to your true posting colors you are an awful shit poster who should never post again, and should shoot yourself in the foot with a nailgun so you never forget it. |
Misunderstood Genius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:17:00 -
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I just want to remind that Ginger M. was immediately perma-banned from the game for his blindfold sentence in rage at Miz C. "I'll find and kill you in RL". And I am sure that this EVE addict tried hard to apologize afterwards to get back into EVE but he had no chance to do it because the decision was made. And this happend just in a system full with pirates who would not have cared. Noone except Miz would have cared if not a GM was there to remove roles. Today a CSM member can talk **** in front of the community with the excuse that he was drunken and did not remember? Sorry, CCP. It's time to do your frakking EULA job. |
baltec1
897
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:18:00 -
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bl4ckL0tus wrote:well i feel like u showed ure true colours ... and beeing evil ingame as well in real life ... ppl can see u know and u can go sit in ure corner and not blame the alchool for ure behaviour. GET A REALITY PILL and realise what u done its not going to be repaired with a simple : i`m sorry. Get off any leadership position u dont deserve to be in one and realise what u`ve done. kk thx
He showed that when drunk people say silly things. Also for the love of god use english not text crap. |
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HazardsSoul
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
20
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:18:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:Kaivar Lancer wrote:Mittani has single-handedly given Eve Online pariah status. I wonder how much this has cost CCP in terms of wasted PR dollars. The last thing Sony wants is to see major media linking Dust with online suicides and cyber-bullying. This would be the kiss of death to CCP. Init CCP continue to sit on there hands while trying to release a single console only development with interaction with THE biggest player in the industry. Interesting to see Sony's reaction to this..... Should they find CCP have misrepresented themselves all contracts could be null and void Dust --- Vaporware Your tears of fiction sustain me Sony aint going to do **** so you can chill down with that one bro
Kill yourself and that should do us all good |
Josefius
13th Tribe of Kobol Expeditionary
51
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:19:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:bl4ckL0tus wrote:well i feel like u showed ure true colours ... and beeing evil ingame as well in real life ... ppl can see u know and u can go sit in ure corner and not blame the alchool for ure behaviour. GET A REALITY PILL and realise what u done its not going to be repaired with a simple : i`m sorry. Get off any leadership position u dont deserve to be in one and realise what u`ve done. kk thx He showed that when drunk people say silly things. Also for the love of god use english not text crap.
He must have texted that in his car driving. |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
432
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:20:00 -
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HazardsSoul wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:Kaivar Lancer wrote:Mittani has single-handedly given Eve Online pariah status. I wonder how much this has cost CCP in terms of wasted PR dollars. The last thing Sony wants is to see major media linking Dust with online suicides and cyber-bullying. This would be the kiss of death to CCP. Init CCP continue to sit on there hands while trying to release a single console only development with interaction with THE biggest player in the industry. Interesting to see Sony's reaction to this..... Should they find CCP have misrepresented themselves all contracts could be null and void Dust --- Vaporware Your tears of fiction sustain me Sony aint going to do **** so you can chill down with that one bro Kill yourself and that should do us all good
I'm cool you seem a little upset though..... my mortal exicsatnce seems to upset you so, you keep demanding I end it
Time will tell though hey
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
Karim alRashid
Aliastra Gallente Federation
122
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:21:00 -
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"Professor", somehow I don't think you're trolling, so the only other possibility is you being extremely delusional.
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Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
12
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:21:00 -
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It's kinda terrible when Goonies are coming across as the well-balanced individuals in a conversation (or f-tarded threadnaught in this case). Honestly, all the stupidity just drives me more and more towards supporting The Mitanni. |
Pyztof
Pyztof Corporation
3
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:22:00 -
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Not buying it. When people act terribly 'in game' there is at the very least a shred of truth. Mittani is a classic bully in all senses. I for one want nothing to do with him. |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
432
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:22:00 -
[1937] - Quote
Karim alRashid wrote:"Professor", somehow I don't think you're trolling, so the only other possibility is you being extremely delusional.
Perhaps .....
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
JTK Fotheringham
Resurrected Darkness
18
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:22:00 -
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KFenn wrote:
He wasn't acting in an official capacity though. He was there as the leader of Goonswarm, a well established alliance of well-known douchebags.
Also, 10K votes. He'd likely be chair without the Goon vote.
Again, the issues not being understood. Mittens can't lay aside the "player elected representative" hat when he gets drunk at Fanfest. Whether he was acting "offically" or not is irrelevant.
The point is, he mounted an out-of-game attack on a player. And he did so to camera, at a CCP-run event.
10k votes doing get you a pass for being stupid. And 10k votes don't undo the bad press.
Every time there's a CSM story for the next year, this story will remain in paragraph 4 where they have a Mittens quote. So every time the CSM has a chance to do some good for the game, there'll be links to a story that will put off prospective players. Mittens can't stay as CSM chair, I doubt he can stay on the CSM.
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Kara Roideater
Perkone Caldari State
91
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:22:00 -
[1939] - Quote
Kblackjack54 wrote:Stupid drunken comments, lots of political mileage in that, oh, then he apologises,
Next step invoke the EULA, well get him that way, wrong not actually playing EVE at the time,
OK rethink strategy,
Eureka, Use the Cyber bullying card and smugly throw that one in, no defence there the manGÇÖs clearly guilty of bullying another player of a fictitious internet spaceships game. Cities vaguely UK/US current news on subject for justification.
Reaching new lows here are we not, if the man resigns now or if CCP force him out then vested interests will have managed to use stupidity, bigotry and the unintelligible voice of the howling masses to achieve what they were to weak to do in the first place.
WIN A SEAT ON THE CSM
You say that as if metagaming successfully is a bad thing. |
ExhumeToConsume
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
40
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:23:00 -
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bl4ckL0tus wrote:well i feel like u showed ure true colours ... and beeing evil ingame as well in real life ... ppl can see u know and u can go sit in ure corner and not blame the alchool for ure behaviour. GET A REALITY PILL and realise what u done its not going to be repaired with a simple : i`m sorry. Get off any leadership position u dont deserve to be in one and realise what u`ve done. kk thx
1 Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.
2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with [his] finger wrote on the ground, [as though he heard them not].
7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
9 And they which heard [it], being convicted by [their own] conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, [even] unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. |
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Kaivar Lancer
General Exports
135
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:24:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Kaivar Lancer wrote:Mittani has single-handedly given Eve Online pariah status. I wonder how much this has cost CCP in terms of wasted PR dollars. The last thing Sony wants is to see major media linking Dust with online suicides and cyber-bullying. This would be the kiss of death to CCP. Hey, if we're talking about stupid **** that won't ever happen, you know what else would be the kiss of death for CCP? A herd of elephants let loose in their office! Not just for the casualties, but for the structural damage!
You think CCP finds this funny? I don't know how much CCP budgeted for their PR, but if Mittani set back CCP's efforts by say $100k (a conservative estimate), that's somebody's job at CCP. |
Kefka Wu
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:24:00 -
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Best way to put it: differentiate between online character and real lfie please:
http://jestertrek.blogspot.de/2012/03/hats.html
Great written article about this situation |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
12
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:25:00 -
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I know contries where Goonswarm could actually be charged for building a criminal organisation and terrorism (true story)...and it is not the US....but nobody does it cause its a freaking game... |
Daviclond
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:25:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:Snow Axe wrote:Kaivar Lancer wrote:Mittani has single-handedly given Eve Online pariah status. I wonder how much this has cost CCP in terms of wasted PR dollars. The last thing Sony wants is to see major media linking Dust with online suicides and cyber-bullying. This would be the kiss of death to CCP. Hey, if we're talking about stupid **** that won't ever happen, you know what else would be the kiss of death for CCP? A herd of elephants let loose in their office! Not just for the casualties, but for the structural damage! You think CCP finds this funny? I don't know how much CCP budgeted for their PR, but if Mittani set back CCP's efforts by say $100k (a conservative estimate), that's somebody's job at CCP.
hahaha nothing will come of this |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
252
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:25:00 -
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What makes me think the apology is just bull is that the goons are out in force doubling down on stupid in defense of cyber bullying.
The great leader says one thing, while the goons do another.
All that is left is he has to step down from the CSM totally now because of the actions of his goons at this point. Trying to spin the story has hurt him even more.
His follower ruined any chance for his apology to work as a get out of trouble card.
What he did is not a game. |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
434
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:26:00 -
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Has anyone thought to phone Himlars favourite brothel tell him his smoked fish and blow might be under threat
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
baltec1
898
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:29:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:
You think CCP finds this funny? I don't know how much CCP budgeted for their PR, but if Mittani set back CCP's efforts by say $100k (a conservative estimate), that's somebody's job at CCP.
The responsibility for the bad press is entirely down to you people. Most are not interested or don't see what all the fuss is about. Much worse is said in Jita local every hour of every day. |
Kaivar Lancer
General Exports
135
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:30:00 -
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Daviclond wrote:Kaivar Lancer wrote:
You think CCP finds this funny? I don't know how much CCP budgeted for their PR, but if Mittani set back CCP's efforts by say $100k (a conservative estimate), that's somebody's job at CCP.
hahaha nothing will come of this
Have you ever run a business? One key to risk management is to reduce or remove your liabilities. Mittani is a liability. I can't think of any way that CCP can benefit from keeping Mittani CSM chief. Goons won't quit. They are hopelessly addicted to this game and have formed a symbiotic relationship with their Eve personas. |
Lenrir Andven
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:30:00 -
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Kara Roideater wrote:Lenrir Andven wrote:
Pretty much. I am from the UK as well and the 'cyber-bullying' craze has really been picking up pace, with all that stuff about facebook and what not. That is why when I compare what is classed as 'cyber-bullying' to what we consider as 'griefing', then the grey line is really that much more grey. I wouldn't be surprised if the UK will ban all MMO's with the way they wish to 'protect' their children from anything 'wrong.'
Certainly some people have that view of griefing in general. But I think in this particular case the line is not so grey. The person was held up as a target in an out of game context and with the reason for the targeting being claims he made about his state of well-being outside the game. So both the platform used to target him and the reasons given were not game-based, although the methods proposed for targeting him were. But it is pretty clear that the possible upside of griefing him was meant to be that it would, hopefully, make him miserable in real life. Now, whilst that last goal might be a normal griefing goal, I think the RL context and platform amke this look like the game is actually incidental rather than central, such that considering it merely to be griefing someone in game misses out a lot of the details.
I understand what you mean, but what bothers me is the lack of information that we have received about this 'victim'. Other than the e-mail (which could of been forged) and his contact name, this all could of been an elaborate ruse, a stunt, in which Mittens wished to play out because, well let's be honest, they couldn't do another 'GSF history' session every single fanfest.
Now if it was true then yes, as you have stated, the upside to this would of been the intent to make his life miserable, I for one would understand that since I am, after all, a Goonie.
Now would I class what he stated as cyber-bullying? No, I wouldn't. In fact for what he said, it could of been a whole lot worse. He said a simple quip, a soundbyte, nothing more. When compared to far more 'elaborate' insults and quips, what he said was really not that bad. Short-sighted? Of course, though I doubt anyone would of expected this kind of backlash from what was said.
I think his apology is more than enough really, those that are asking for more is actually causing more harm than good.
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HazardsSoul
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
20
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:31:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:Has anyone thought to phone Himlars favourite brothel tell him his smoked fish and blow might be under threat what ever you are smoking.... Ill have some |
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