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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:11:00 -
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Budsin Adar wrote:Hello there is a German small corp [MDOGS] 6 member corp using 4 hulks and 2 orca's and 1 is fleet boosting and they are using a Bot Program. I have asked in local and i even bumped them they said nothing to anyone so i posted in a few systems so far they are not back as of yet but they mine out entire systems and they must be stopped i would suggest Bot-a-geddon 365 till miniers like that 23 hrs a day get the hint but we must be free of concord and standing losses if possible. This would be much appreciated by many thanks everyone fly safe o/
Well ... start shooting, genius ? Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:20:00 -
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All things considered, I'm amazed that anyone even cares about bots anymore. I guess CCP found something they could distract that masses with, while still failing to implement non-buggy code....
"CCP, is a cutting edge developer, they have found a way to sell lag to their customers, and make them believe it's a feature." |
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
166
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:49:00 -
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If I see a player and the way they act on occasion...and later find out they were banned as a bot, I would be able to more easily identify future botters more accurately if I see others with similar behaviors. This may help detect other bots faster.
On the market side, seeing .01 isking market bots banned would do a good deal to clam frustrated traders who hate the .01 isk game. While it won't stop the .01 game... it'll assure players that the remaining .01 isking competition is other legitimate players and that they aren't trying to compete against a 23/7 market bot when their order gets overtaken almost instantly.
At its core, seeing players get punished for botting is just comforting in general. If you could post not only their name but how much ISK you deleted from them, it would be all the more rewarding. Just as some players love seeing high-value kill mails on players acting dumb... seeing high-value ban-mails from players botting would draw the same crowd...and probably go a long way to discouraging botting from players who might be considering it. In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
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Posted - 2012.07.11 17:16:00 -
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dave3NG wrote:For mining bots, on top of standard punishment, how about removing the mining skill and not allowing them to retrain it. Not an immediate red mark clearly visible, but still obvious to corp CEOs who can check a skill queue, (and see exhumer, but not basic mining for example).
They could become good citizens in any other form of gameplay. I like.
Simple, elegant, does the job. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
Ukrane Bob
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.11 17:49:00 -
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dave3NG wrote:For mining bots, on top of standard punishment, how about removing the mining skill and not allowing them to retrain it. Not an immediate red mark clearly visible, but still obvious to corp CEOs who can check a skill queue, (and see exhumer, but not basic mining for example).
They could become good citizens in any other form of gameplay.
I would even take it a step further and allow CCP to bio mass offending characters caught botting and flagging any other characters on the same account. This way it would instantly remove the botter out of the business and for the folks that want to give the criminals a chance to rehabilitate, well they(the botter) can make a new character and decide a new career path to pursue which would give them a bit of time whilst retraining to think upon their previous ways, flagged of course. I like to **** people off.. Get Over it.. Adapt .. Survive! |
Korsiri
Mousetrap Building Inc.
51
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Posted - 2012.07.11 18:23:00 -
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I dislike it, not because I think botters should have any protection - they shouldn't . The only pro thing I've read so far that makes sense is recruitment. I don't see any other reason players would benefit from this. As for shame, forget it. Botters by definition aren't there, some of em are professional at it. They're not going to feel guilt or shame because they got caught; annoyance - maybe. Then they'll open another account and do it again.
Why not simply post the names of toons caught botting? Recruiters can look em up, wanna be equalizers can look em up and do some work instead of having a flashy red delicious button on a moving target to attract em first lol |
Irya Boone
Escadron leader La League des mondes libres
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Posted - 2012.07.11 18:29:00 -
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Necroposting, necrothreading and necroTopicing are bad really really BAD |
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
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Posted - 2012.07.11 18:52:00 -
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In my mind the benefit is in knowing how widespread botting is and that something is being done about it. I would like to be able to see a year from now that there is less of it than there is now. That is not so say that there are not more effective ways to show this, but public humilitation would definitely work. |
Naomi Apollonia
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
0
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Posted - 2012.07.11 19:35:00 -
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Why are you not just banning these cheaters out right? |
Red Teufel
Blackened Skies THE UNTHINKABLES
58
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Posted - 2012.07.11 19:38:00 -
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eh throw them on a seperate eve server just for botters. they can still play just not in my universe. |
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Zapphire
Circle of Jerks
7
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Posted - 2012.07.11 20:09:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Hello wonderful Internet Spaceship Pilots!!!!!
Though not all of you have seen my presentation last Friday at this point I have some time to kill so I'd like to get this conversation started that I not only promised, but that I'm really looking forward to.
In some of my past dev blogs and conversations with players it's been mentioned by a number of you that you'd like botters identified publicly. As you will eventually see from my presentation once it's posted, I'm not entirely convinced that this has any real tangible benefit to you as a player in any respect other than as a tool to implement the metagame.
I'm also not convinced that it's a worthless pursuit so what I'd like to see from you, the players, is a discussion regarding how you feel about this and I'm hoping to see some really cool ideas.
If I'm forced to frame it as a question I'd like answered I think I'd frame it as "What would you, the player, stand to benefit from being able to identify which characters had ever been caught botting, whether or not they were still engaging in this activity?"
Please try to stay on topic. If this thread gets garbaged (Sarah Palin License to invent words) then we'll clean it but I'd rather we just stick to the topic and provide some really good input personally.
DISCUSS!
:)
Since you ban botters, what would be the point? They will not be able to log in when you ban them. So, you just want us to be able to harass them on the forums? For what? We will not be able to discuss their ban, without fear of the Hammer coming down on us. Again, what would be the point of all of this?
Seems like it would just create more stupidity.
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Hudzen Ten
Diva-Droid International
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Posted - 2012.07.11 20:35:00 -
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Naomi Apollonia wrote:Why are you not just banning these cheaters out right?
20 bucks per month.
Botters caught in high sec should be given a -10 sec status and possibly - faction standings to some degree (def for mission bots). This enables them to be ganked while they serve a penance doing missions to repair the sec
Botters caught in low sec seem like they should of been ganked by someone, but i know they can be setup pretty ninja. I can't think of anything tailored to it, maybe this for the current standard punnishment from CCP as its more unlikely to be any serious 10 char kinda bot farm.
Botters caught in 0.0 should have all characters involved deleted or suffer some kind of skill point reduction similar to being podded with a basic clone. There is so much isk floating around there is no excuse.
Botters caught in wh's should be hired as developers to create a better AI for eve in general. |
Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.11 20:59:00 -
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Necroe'd by someone who got their post snipped. That's just terrible. -RubyPorto
IB4TS |
Buck Futz
Suddenly Violence Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
114
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Posted - 2012.09.21 00:24:00 -
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So, Screegs, when is this going to happen?
Certainly there are plenty of bots out thar.
I want to see a B tattooed on the forehead of the botters.
They wont care of course, but I want to see it just the same. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.21 00:31:00 -
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sreegs. |
Brooks Puuntai
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
770
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Posted - 2012.09.21 00:31:00 -
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Buck Futz wrote:So, Screegs, when is this going to happen?
Certainly there are plenty of bots out thar.
I want to see a B tattooed on the forehead of the botters.
They wont care of course, but I want to see it just the same.
Since this thread is almost 6 months old I would say probably never. Or in 12 months.
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Buck Futz
Suddenly Violence Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
114
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Posted - 2012.09.21 00:57:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:sreegs.
I like it my way better.
SCREEEEEEEE gs. |
Jason Xado
Xado Industries
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Posted - 2012.09.21 01:32:00 -
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I'm curious, if this would be implemented would people stop accusing multiboxers of botting since they wouldn't have the mark?
Seriously though, multiboxing <> botting. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
1101
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Posted - 2012.09.21 01:39:00 -
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You should be marked for botting... if by marked you mean banned...
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Bart Starr
Aggressive Structural Steel Expediting Services
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Posted - 2012.09.21 05:20:00 -
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I wonder whats taking them so long to implement this.
Its like they put all the bad parts of inferno in, but left out all the good stuff.
Yay, wardecs are more expensive. Oh, but scarlet letter for corp jumpers......no can do.
Lets ban bots!!!! Then create the Mackinaw and Retriever.
Its like punching yourself in the nutz repeatedly to get a hardon. You might get where you are going, but it will take a very long time. |
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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
260
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Posted - 2012.09.21 06:25:00 -
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Necroed again?
CCP is on the five year plan, anything talked about now, will be discussed again in five years....
"CCP, is a cutting edge developer, they have found a way to sell lag to their customers, and make them believe it's a feature." |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.09.21 06:37:00 -
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Ah a "rise and shine thread"... It appears to me that applying practices broadly used from medieval times until the 1940 in a european state, marking "Suspects" with letters or signs so everybody can distinguish them .... yeah sounds like a very progressive and new feature. |
Incindir Mauser
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
30
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Posted - 2012.09.21 07:19:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:Ah a "rise and shine thread"... It appears to me that applying practices broadly used from medieval times until the 1940 in a european state, marking "Suspects" with letters or signs so everybody can distinguish them .... yeah sounds like a very progressive and new feature.
CCP has access to data that we do not, and the ability to identify bots.
I am convinced that the only way to stop botting in EvE is through player-based policing. Tag them, deny them protection from CONCORD in high security space, put ISK bounties on their heads, and we will take care of the rest.
Instead of bounty hunters. Bot hunters.
It could become a profession. Like miner bumping. |
Mara Rinn
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
1842
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Posted - 2012.09.21 07:23:00 -
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Buck Futz wrote:So, Screegs, when is this going to happen?
You make it sound like this was a a post from CCP Sreegs about an upcoming feature, rather than a statement from CCP Sreegs that he sees no value in scarlet letters.
It is not going to happen.
I am as upset as you are about the nerf to suicide ganking. Scarlet letters aren't going to reinvigorate suicide ganking, sadly. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Amarrius Ibn Pontificus
Evil .inc WHY so Seri0Us
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Posted - 2012.09.23 23:25:00 -
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How about an off the game, unofficial botting list? Anyone up for that? |
Pipa Porto
1000
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Posted - 2012.09.24 00:10:00 -
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Amarrius Ibn Pontificus wrote:How about an off the game, unofficial botting list? Anyone up for that?
It'll be great to see it when you've finished it. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
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